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  1. #14447
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnieCash  [View Original Post]
    All of the breaths are essentially the same and unmemorable, so if that's you're experience with women then why even bother if it makes no difference.
    After well over 2000 chicks the special and memorable fantasy shit has worn off. Besides, are these hookers in search of something memorable with us? To me it is like flying. People that do not fly often or do not know you fly often always ask how was the flight. To people that fly often it is just like every other flight so there is no need to ask. We are not going to be like it was so amazing. You should have seen it. Same with hookers. I have had my dick sucked, ass licked, and cum swallowed so many times that it is nothing to get excited about and nothing that I have to make sure the girl will do before choosing her.

    I bother because I know how to make my own fun and still have a good time. I am not fucking chicks to have something to remember in the future. I am fucking them to have fun today.

    Yesterday on 2 different occasions I walked into a massage parlor (here in Ethiopia) and chose chicks by doing no kind of research or asking any kind of questions. In each 1 hour session the massage was $5 and the fucking was $10. Great time had with both chicks, but will go to other spots today to try some different chicks in the same manner. No research and no questions.

  2. #14446

    New Bogota Map

    Anyone interested in a new Bogota map? I'm thinking of starting one. All due respect to the WT69 and the work he's put in over the years and I understand the desire to earn from the work hes put in. , but for many reasons I don't think we should be paying for these maps.

  3. #14445

    Question About Encounters VIP Diamond Club

    Howdy, I'm doing a quick trip to Bogota in March for a few days. I will be staying in Chapinero.

    I've read the forum going back 6 months, and given my preference for GFE and short stay, an agency seems like the best bet. I'll still drop by Santa Fe to sightsee, but probably won't partake in anything since strip clubs don't do much for me.

    Out of all the agencies, I like the girls on Encounters VIP the most. For me the most important physical aspect of a girl is her face, but all agency girls have their faces blurred. Apparently Encounters has a Diamond club where you can see the girl's face unblurred. Anybody know how to join this club or how much it cost?

    Also it seem like La Celestina has something similar as well, any details on either La Celestina or Encounters would be appreciated.

  4. #14444
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Just like we do not walk into a restaurant and gawk at other people's plates before we decide to sit down and ask for a menu. We sit down, ask for menu, order, eat. If we liked the meal then cool. If not, fuck it. It will not be the only meal of our lives.
    Restaurant is an established business with some social trust, some people eating, as well as often some online reviews (so more like a casa or club), not a rando on the internet offering to sell you some burgers "trust me bro, those are not minced stray dogs" (an online freelancer).

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Because for some of us it is like taking a breath of air (we will take another right after and not even remember a breath taken 3 weeks ago) and not like buying a house that we are going to have to live in for the next 30 years.

    I get it though. If you are only doing it once a year or every few years, then you may be more picky of how you want things to be.
    All of the breaths are essentially the same and unmemorable, so if that's you're experience with women then why even bother if it makes no difference. Anyway taking a breath is a bad analogy since it is something automatic and fundamentally out of your control, yes, you can play with a bit to a certain extent, but you cannot not take it for extended period of time (and live).

    I for one have a limited amount of time (and breaths / meals) remaining in this life, less with each day, so I care if someone wastes it, I aim for every day to be an enjoyable or at least educational experience. The dud takes the time of good one, or other enjoyable activities, and that time won't be returned. With an IRL mongering at least I can grab another right away to rescue the day and it takes but a couple minutes to research, discuss and arrange it, so not like buying a house at all, nor like the endless / pointless discussions and unknown wait times & no shows when doing it online. The only advantage of a dud is that it makes me appreciate the good ones by comparison, so as long it happens rarely it still has some benefits in my book.

  5. #14443

    STD test

    Quote Originally Posted by ReachJM  [View Original Post]
    I had traveled from NY to Panama last month and had unprotected bbj (oral and no sex) with a Venezuela escort. 4th day onwards got unusual symptoms like confusing headache and others like COVID.

    Returned to NYC and did all sort of tests around 7th day. Nothing was unusual in results.

    Now it is more than a month and some symptoms are there especially itching, tightness, pinching around penis / kidney area and occasionally headache with confusions.

    I need to travel in a day or two to Bogota for about a week and was wondering if I can get tested completely and also meet any specialist in Colombia. Is it easy and doable within 1 week?

    Or Should I do all tests, followups in NYC itself? But it would go on insurance and will get tracked by family and will stay on records as well..
    You can get tested through https://www.stdcheck.com. 139 $ full panel, it's completely anonymous.

  6. #14442

    Next week

    Will be at the Suites next week. Would be glad to meet for advice on the area. Good pharmacy. Sex store, online recommendations and the like.

  7. #14441
    Quote Originally Posted by CasaNoVa  [View Original Post]
    Some girls are worried / paranoid that when on all fours the guy may decide to slip off the condom without them noticing. Also you never know what kinda day theyve been having or what client experiences they may have just had to get through before you. Sometimes if they are super hot I give them another chance another day and 50/50 the service is way more GFE.
    Whatever the reason whether paranoia or a bad day she should know that he is not going to be a repeat client.

  8. #14440
    Quote Originally Posted by SlowBlow  [View Original Post]
    I don't have high expectations, I really don't, but she made zero effort. I've never been with someone who just looked straight ahead and made zero noise. She had a decent body but I don't know who could get turned on when she's clearly not enjoying any of it.

    There was no room for miscommunication, I said "en cuatro", "ponte en cuatro". If she had said "no hago anal" I would have said "vale, no quiero tampoco", but she didn't misunderstand me to mean anal or she would have asked to clarify. I've never heard of anyone refusing to do doggy style. I can't think of a good reason. And now I'm super curious as to why. Anyway after that denial I just wasn't into it at all anyway. And to be clear, I never finished because I was definitely done after she didn't even allow me to finish on her since she clearly was not present for sex.

    But really, I understand not allowing anal, BBBJ, DATY, etc, but if you're going to charge for a service you should maybe at least pretend. The girl after was much much better, gave good kisses, let me finger her, moaned loudly and was talking, all the stuff that makes you want to keep going.
    Yep, she was not in to it and not even just providing a good experience. A dud, and that happens from time to time. All you can do is move on and call it a day.

  9. #14439
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnieCash  [View Original Post]
    TBH I don't even get how people can just roll the dice and decide to meet based on photos then wait and hope for the best. Nothing like meeting in person, ideally several of them, checking looks, temperature and attitude, then deciding whether to fuck there and then, but to each their own.
    Because for some of us it is like taking a breath of air (we will take another right after and not even remember a breath taken 3 weeks ago) and not like buying a house that we are going to have to live in for the next 30 years.

    Just like we do not walk into a restaurant and gawk at other people's plates before we decide to sit down and ask for a menu. We sit down, ask for menu, order, eat. If we liked the meal then cool. If not, fuck it. It will not be the only meal of our lives.

    I get it though. If you are only doing it once a year or every few years, then you may be more picky of how you want things to be.

  10. #14438
    Quote Originally Posted by SlowBlow  [View Original Post]
    I don't have high expectations, I really don't, but she made zero effort. I've never been with someone who just looked straight ahead and made zero noise. She had a decent body but I don't know who could get turned on when she's clearly not enjoying any of it.

    There was no room for miscommunication, I said "en cuatro", "ponte en cuatro". If she had said "no hago anal" I would have said "vale, no quiero tampoco", but she didn't misunderstand me to mean anal or she would have asked to clarify. I've never heard of anyone refusing to do doggy style. I can't think of a good reason. And now I'm super curious as to why. Anyway after that denial I just wasn't into it at all anyway. And to be clear, I never finished because I was definitely done after she didn't even allow me to finish on her since she clearly was not present for sex.

    But really, I understand not allowing anal, BBBJ, DATY, etc, but if you're going to charge for a service you should maybe at least pretend. The girl after was much much better, gave good kisses, let me finger her, moaned loudly and was talking, all the stuff that makes you want to keep going.
    Heh asking WG for a money back, good luck with that LOL. Always pay afterwards and make sure she knows it beforehand.

    TBH I don't even get how people can just roll the dice and decide to meet based on photos then wait and hope for the best. Nothing like meeting in person, ideally several of them, checking looks, temperature and attitude, then deciding whether to fuck there and then, but to each their own.

  11. #14437
    Quote Originally Posted by CasaNoVa  [View Original Post]
    Some girls are worried / paranoid that when on all fours the guy may decide to slip off the condom without them noticing. Also you never know what kinda day theyve been having or what client experiences they may have just had to get through before you. Sometimes if they are super hot I give them another chance another day and 50/50 the service is way more GFE.
    If there's a condom on then it was a stupid session to begin with. Most of them you can reason with to get them to agree to fuck without a condom and the ones that won't agree are not worth fucking.

  12. #14436

    The reasoning I've heard.

    Quote Originally Posted by SlowBlow  [View Original Post]
    I don't have high expectations, I really don't, but she made zero effort. I've never been with someone who just looked straight ahead and made zero noise. She had a decent body but I don't know who could get turned on when she's clearly not enjoying any of it.

    There was no room for miscommunication, I said "en cuatro", "ponte en cuatro". If she had said "no hago anal" I would have said "vale, no quiero tampoco", but she didn't misunderstand me to mean anal or she would have asked to clarify. I've never heard of anyone refusing to do doggy style. I can't think of a good reason. And now I'm super curious as to why. Anyway after that denial I just wasn't into it at all anyway. And to be clear, I never finished because I was definitely done after she didn't even allow me to finish on her since she clearly was not present for sex.

    But really, I understand not allowing anal, BBBJ, DATY, etc, but if you're going to charge for a service you should maybe at least pretend. The girl after was much much better, gave good kisses, let me finger her, moaned loudly and was talking, all the stuff that makes you want to keep going.
    Some girls are worried / paranoid that when on all fours the guy may decide to slip off the condom without them noticing. Also you never know what kinda day theyve been having or what client experiences they may have just had to get through before you. Sometimes if they are super hot I give them another chance another day and 50/50 the service is way more GFE.

  13. #14435

    Thanks for all responses.

    I didn't wanted to respond to everyone feedback but posting collectively.

    First I am not a kid with parents or living is basement but I am not a seasoned like you all.

    I didn't travel to Panama just for BBBJ. It was work related and I happened to meet the escort.

    My issues are real and why would I fake up? My trip to Bogota is also work related and I will follow the advice from few members.

    I am nervous as it is first time going through this. I can afford tests in NYC or Bogota but I will Google how in NYC as anonymous.

    Thanks again.

  14. #14434
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeos1  [View Original Post]
    I think your expectations were a bit on the high side. Lots don't kiss. And when you wanted doggy were you sure she wasn't thinking anal. I don't think translating doggy would work, but I don't know how it was communicated. But any communication involving translation of butt or ass or rear entry or doggy probably would not have communicated. I just use the word cuatro, not sure about Colombia though. And the biggest one, when you are done you are done. That is true in most places. Half an hour means up to half an hour or when you come, whichever comes first. That applies to half hour bookings everywhere I go, but some will give you a massage for the balance of your time, although not usually. Booking for longer periods of time works differently, then they assume you are paying for, and expecting something more. Such as a massage or perhaps 2 shots, or long conversation. Anyway, how you describe what actually happened is not that different from many half hour experiences. What can make the identical actions or lack of actions different if the girl really turned you on just by her appearance or appeal to you. Then it might have felt very different.
    I don't have high expectations, I really don't, but she made zero effort. I've never been with someone who just looked straight ahead and made zero noise. She had a decent body but I don't know who could get turned on when she's clearly not enjoying any of it.

    There was no room for miscommunication, I said "en cuatro", "ponte en cuatro". If she had said "no hago anal" I would have said "vale, no quiero tampoco", but she didn't misunderstand me to mean anal or she would have asked to clarify. I've never heard of anyone refusing to do doggy style. I can't think of a good reason. And now I'm super curious as to why. Anyway after that denial I just wasn't into it at all anyway. And to be clear, I never finished because I was definitely done after she didn't even allow me to finish on her since she clearly was not present for sex.

    But really, I understand not allowing anal, BBBJ, DATY, etc, but if you're going to charge for a service you should maybe at least pretend. The girl after was much much better, gave good kisses, let me finger her, moaned loudly and was talking, all the stuff that makes you want to keep going.

  15. #14433
    Quote Originally Posted by SlowBlow  [View Original Post]
    I just had my worst encounter yet. The chick looked good in the photos and when I arrived she didn't look as good but it was definitely the same girl so I said screw it because I had already been bamboozled once today by someone who definitely catfished me.

    I should have known as soon as I entered that she had a bad attitude and just wasn't present at all. She said cancelemos primero (pay first) and I didn't think anything of it other than the fact that she looked at me when I asked how much as if she had suddenly dozed off or something. The warning signs were there, but as I said, I had been fooled once today and was just ready to be done for the day.

    Anyway first she would not kiss or touch or do absolutely anything to turn me on. No besitos, nothing. I always skip on condom oral and especially this time because she done nothing to get me hard. Anyway somehow I get hard and I ask her to get in doggy style and she said no, she doesn't do that with anyone. So she proceeds to ride me but makes zero facial expression, looks straight ahead, and doesn't make any noise at all. Completely mechanical, might as well have been a robot. Anyway after some communication issues I just couldn't keep it up anymore and I told her I was just going to cum on her chest. She of course said no. I proceeded to ask, "do you do anything, why are you even advertising yourself if you're not willing to do anything"? Anyway she didn't get mad, as usual just a stunned face like a deer with the headlights on.

    Idk, maybe she was on something, but I got proper mad before I left, even asked for change back as I paid for half an hour but it wasn't more than 15 min until I was completely done.

    Ended up finding a young coastal girl that had only been working for three days. The sex was good and she didn't object to anything but as we were doing it her period came. I thought she was going to stick it in raw at first but I'm glad she didn't.

    What a day.
    I think your expectations were a bit on the high side. Lots don't kiss. And when you wanted doggy were you sure she wasn't thinking anal. I don't think translating doggy would work, but I don't know how it was communicated. But any communication involving translation of butt or ass or rear entry or doggy probably would not have communicated. I just use the word cuatro, not sure about Colombia though. And the biggest one, when you are done you are done. That is true in most places. Half an hour means up to half an hour or when you come, whichever comes first. That applies to half hour bookings everywhere I go, but some will give you a massage for the balance of your time, although not usually. Booking for longer periods of time works differently, then they assume you are paying for, and expecting something more. Such as a massage or perhaps 2 shots, or long conversation. Anyway, how you describe what actually happened is not that different from many half hour experiences. What can make the identical actions or lack of actions different if the girl really turned you on just by her appearance or appeal to you. Then it might have felt very different.

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