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  1. #11619

    Love Motels Around Zona T?

    Anyone know of any actual hourly and / or love motels in the Zona T area? I will be staying near Calle 85. I found plenty in the 60's but would like some options closer to where I am staying in Zona T. I did a lot of googling but didn't find anything up by where I would be staying. Found the app MotelNow though. I don't plan to take girls I am meeting for the first time back to my Airbnb. I am thinking of adding love motels to the World Travel 69 map. Not sure if anyone has any opinions on that, but I would certainly find it helpful.

    Here are some actual hotels that would work but not sure how girl friendly (or upcharge) they are and I would rather just got to a love motel where its known what's going on. I plan to scout them out though.

    Hotel Bogotá Virrey Cra. $33 USD 15 #86 a-38 https://www.hotelbogotavirrey.com/contacto.html.

    Virrey Park Hotel $39 USD Cra. 15 #87-94 https://www.hotelvirreypark.com/.

    El Virrey $36 USD.

    Hotel Suites Lago Inn Carrera $32 USD 16 A No 79-24 https://hotelbogotainn.com/suites-lago-chico-inn/.

  2. #11618

    Actions near the airport

    I will have a 4 hour layover in Bogota airport before my connection to Medellin. Since I won't have bags, I'd like to spend the time with a girl. Any casa near the airport? Or spa?

  3. #11617
    Quote Originally Posted by FlashShaker  [View Original Post]
    I def hear + understand your POV and it could've happened but didn't (Thanks God). It would be hard for me to frame the context / atmosphere in the room that night but truly there was no pressure. She spoke little / basic english and understand as good as I understand spanish (speaking slowly). It was more like, 'look, I am not satisfied with a CBJ or HJ, I want sex with you' . 'but if you still feel you are not ready then you should leave' . There's no point having you sleep in my bed for a second night etc. "So, at this point, it's best you leave. Then there's some back and forth about how she can't leave, there are no buses, she doesn't know people in BOG etc. So I called the lobby and asked to have her escorted out of the room. 20 minutes later, it was clear she would need to go. So she came to her senses and said she wants to stay. She actually apologize for the drama she caused and blah blah blah and it was all settled. Next morning, sex again, no resistance and no complaining.

    Main reason I gave her no money was because I had already spent on her on Saturday. She didn't have appropriate clothing for the weather so had to buy stuff (jacket, sweater, some sweats etc) just to be out and about. She came with only a pair shoes then the heel broke while we were walking down in La Candelaria. Walked into Adidas outlet and paid for a pair of "tennis" as she called them.

    Honestly, this girl was very pretty, had a really nice body and we vibed very well. She really took most of my attn on SA - whatsapp. But attitude in person was a bit standoffish. She clearly had this misconception of being better than other girls. She likes foreigners and clearly enjoyed spending their money but seemed to have a problem giving it up. All in all, this is back in late 2020 IIRC. Been back to BOG like 8 x since.
    OK. Yep, additional details make it make sense.

  4. #11616

    They were looking for a Stolen rifle

    A soldier in the National Army was on patrol. The victim was part of a group of eight soldiers guarding the area to verify compliance with the recent security measures ordered by Mayor Claudia López, in response to the terrorist alert that was known in the city. I don't know if the rifle was ever recovered.

    The crime must be really bad when they have the balls to steal a rifle from a group of 8 in the military army. LOL only in Colombia.

  5. #11615

    Incident involving a gun??

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    I don't know what's going on there- There were squads of machine gun toting soldiers. Someone I know said there was an incident involving a gun yesterday or today-- It was not clear.

    Everything North of 22nd was ordered closed. We actually walked a bit south and the tranny area was open with clubs and bars open-- the South Stroll was closing down when we walked out.

    There were street girls still out, not a whole lot-- All clubs were closed. The police were not stopping people from walking around and we walked the strolls but the streets were shut down.
    I'm sure it was a lot more to it than involving a gun. A gun happens a lot in Bogota and your lucky if you get to tell your story at the Fiscalia. There had to be a lot more to that kind of response than just a gun. We should get to the bottom of it soon.

  6. #11614

    I Just got back from SF 7;30

    Quote Originally Posted by Stinger  [View Original Post]
    Went to Santa Fe today at 2 PM- holy shit. In the main 2 blocks of Santa Fe, where the clubs are, there were probably almost 100 police officers in riot gear- helmets, M4's, no cars or motorcycles allowed in. Just a few blocks away, on the "South Stroll" there were none, but I only noticed that as I rode away in the bus. I walked the two blocks a couple of times and left. Most of the girls were kind of inside the buildings and garages and clubs. Came by there in the opposite direction at 6 PM and it was still locked down. I have no idea what happened- my Spanish is not good, so I did not ask. They had an officer posted with his back to the wall about every 4-5 doors within the blocks. A few people were walking around, but I thought only bad could happen, so I left.
    I don't know what's going on there- There were squads of machine gun toting soldiers. Someone I know said there was an incident involving a gun yesterday or today-- It was not clear.

    Everything North of 22nd was ordered closed. We actually walked a bit south and the tranny area was open with clubs and bars open-- the South Stroll was closing down when we walked out.

    There were street girls still out, not a whole lot-- All clubs were closed. The police were not stopping people from walking around and we walked the strolls but the streets were shut down.

  7. #11613
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeos1  [View Original Post]
    Hmmm. A problem with the sugar baby type thing, they often do get benefits without putting out sex, or at least until later in the relationship So you should hope that she doesn't reframe this as an assault, and hope that she does not have any way of having the authorities track you down, if she does take it that way.

    Giving her money, no forcing her to take money, may have been something you should have done. At least then you might be able to defend your thinking that it was about sex for money.
    I def hear + understand your POV and it could've happened but didn't (Thanks God). It would be hard for me to frame the context / atmosphere in the room that night but truly there was no pressure. She spoke little / basic english and understand as good as I understand spanish (speaking slowly). It was more like, 'look, I am not satisfied with a CBJ or HJ, I want sex with you' . 'but if you still feel you are not ready then you should leave' . There's no point having you sleep in my bed for a second night etc. "So, at this point, it's best you leave. Then there's some back and forth about how she can't leave, there are no buses, she doesn't know people in BOG etc. So I called the lobby and asked to have her escorted out of the room. 20 minutes later, it was clear she would need to go. So she came to her senses and said she wants to stay. She actually apologize for the drama she caused and blah blah blah and it was all settled. Next morning, sex again, no resistance and no complaining.

    Main reason I gave her no money was because I had already spent on her on Saturday. She didn't have appropriate clothing for the weather so had to buy stuff (jacket, sweater, some sweats etc) just to be out and about. She came with only a pair shoes then the heel broke while we were walking down in La Candelaria. Walked into Adidas outlet and paid for a pair of "tennis" as she called them.

    Honestly, this girl was very pretty, had a really nice body and we vibed very well. She really took most of my attn on SA - whatsapp. But attitude in person was a bit standoffish. She clearly had this misconception of being better than other girls. She likes foreigners and clearly enjoyed spending their money but seemed to have a problem giving it up. All in all, this is back in late 2020 IIRC. Been back to BOG like 8 x since.

  8. #11612

    The Hottest Thing I Have Ever Done

    After leaving Santa Fe, my backup was to go to Adrianaygolosas at her new location opposite the Alqueria Bus Station. She has an interesting site and posts videos on a lot of the internet porn sites, but I had never been until today. It is your basic brothel. I haven't had much luck with Photoprepagos and bringing someone to my hotel is problematic. I thought I had one lined up today and then was ghosted. So, Santa Fe, then that did not work out. So, not sure what I would find, I headed to Adriana's. It is a 3 story bldg where you buzz in at street level, and climb to the 2nd floor. She has the whole 2nd and 3rd floor. They had 4 there and did a lineup. The lineup also included sitting on my lap so I could get a feel for their rear ends. So I told Adriana which one I wanted and she left. Then she came back with a smile and asked me if I would make a porn video. Wow, the little head said yes and the big head wanted more info. She said uncovered BJ with 2 girls and would not show my face. She had the wickedest smile on her face because she knew I would relent. I was also concerned because I am average size and did not want to disappoint. It was with 2 of the 3 I did not pick. They marched me up to the 3rd floor and put me in a robe and I sat in a big wide easy chair. Adriana was just to my left with her cell phone capturing the action close up. I couldn't believe I was actually doing this after the way the day started. Every wave of pleasure caused me to look into Adriana's eyes from maybe 18 inches away and she would give me that knowing smile. It went on longer than I thought I could last and then she gave me the signal to finish it up. In one girls's mouth, then all over everywhere, with Adriana sticking her head in at the end to kiss my dick. She had said there was no extra charge for this. The fee is 140 k Colombian pesos for 1 hour. I figured I was done, but they cleaned me up and marched me down the hallway to the young lady I picked. She gave me a complete body oil massage, using one of those little hand rollers too. Then we started making out again and she sucked me uncovered. Didn't even ask if I wanted a condom. Then we did the rest with the only difference being I can't finish twice in that short of a time. I asked if I could tip all 3 and she said I was only allowed to tip her. I asked Adriana what she was going to do with the video and she wrote on the translator that she would find somewhere to post it. She has got the wickedest smile and sense of knowing what you need. I am definitely going back. As to the quality of the ladies, you can see on her website that she has all shapes. What made this unexpected adventure so great though is that the women I ran into there seem to truly enjoy working for her. They were smiling a lot and happy. I think I may have gone a few minutes over the hour and no one said anything. Compare that to Santa Fe where they are knocking on the door sometimes 15 minutes or less after you go in and everything is a race to the finish.

  9. #11611

    Santa Fe Heavy Police Presence Today

    Went to Santa Fe today at 2 PM- holy shit. In the main 2 blocks of Santa Fe, where the clubs are, there were probably almost 100 police officers in riot gear- helmets, M4's, no cars or motorcycles allowed in. Just a few blocks away, on the "South Stroll" there were none, but I only noticed that as I rode away in the bus. I walked the two blocks a couple of times and left. Most of the girls were kind of inside the buildings and garages and clubs. Came by there in the opposite direction at 6 PM and it was still locked down. I have no idea what happened- my Spanish is not good, so I did not ask. They had an officer posted with his back to the wall about every 4-5 doors within the blocks. A few people were walking around, but I thought only bad could happen, so I left.

  10. #11610

    Right on

    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1  [View Original Post]
    I always try to weed out the pros, but if you are with a pro you need to be very upfront with what you want and how much it will be. Unfortunately the hard core pros will often get amnesia when it comes time for sans condom in the room, it's at that point I broom them, give them taxi money and move on. I can guarantee when you meet up with type of working girl the session will always be bad. Better to move on. Remember "Women are like buses, another one comes along in 5 minutes" Also when dealing with a chipper, non-pro, It's not a bad idea during the qualifying stage that you say something like, I understand how difficult life can be for a single mom, or student and you can use little help now and then. At least they know you understand what makes the world go round and know how things work in Bogota. Stay safe..
    Absolutely bro, we got similar game, who knows I prob learned from you or bumped into you LOL. Many guys don't understand this like you said, if they drove and came over it will be their loss to not say yes or be flexible on what you ask. Pros are pros and our start don't always work on them and it's all good. I send them home quickly also when payment is asked for upfront or only CBJ. I'm happy to pay 50-100 k for them to leave if they turn me off. I only accept CBJ in casas / brothel sometimes, but w rapport building and dating / social skills and I always get BBBJ from my regulars so I can afford to say No. I go full bareback w most of my SA / FB amigas / novias / wives LOL, no clock watching, often overnight. I'm usually pretty honest and do connect with most as real friends, listen to their problems, about their families, acknowledge their situation and share what's going on with my life as well, we connect as two human beings and don't treat them as an object. That's what rapport / relationship building is and sex is easy at that point if that's your goal. Just don't get too emotionally involved or too wrapped up cause some have some reaaaaaal deep and crazy dramas. But women are women, p4 p or not, connecting on a personal level goes a long way.

    When I'm on vaca usually solo, if I go intimately w 2 or 3 at most daily and only pay hourly, wtf am I going to do with the other 21-22 hrs? Stay alone or hang in bars? I'd rather have a chica friend over to hang out, smoke, drink, cook, take pics, chill by the pool, go shopping, watch tv. Kill time with you on your vacation.

  11. #11609

    Yes, the one exception

    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    You are 100% correct and this should be a Top Post.

    The truth is us mongers are usually the ones who teach these girls how to become hookers. There's a long history on how we've influenced or fueled this hobby in those countries, especially when they ask for USD instead of pesos; that comes from us introducing it, in other words from the fucking SIMPS. For ex, I personally know some Colombians that started on FB for the first time, and a tourist would contact them to immediately solicit for 250 k or in USD for an hour. First, she was new, she would likely fuck him for free, didn't know anything about hourly, would other fuck for a dinner date or just drinks, or would happily take 50 k as a tip to go home and would be thrilled to have an American connection / Fetish / Sugar daddy / Friend or whatever foreigner fantasy these girls have. So basically we train them on the hobby. At least many of them. So next time a guy offers her 100 k she would say no, and slightly flexible around 200 k or so.

    So with what you wrote above is very true in my extensive experience with COL, CR, DR, Anywhere. It works well on newb / non-pros or semi-pros, as hardcore putas always start with their pricing upfront which is ok and I simply treat those as if I was in a brothel. But as far as others, you should NEVER talk price ahead of time on WhatsApp or messenger, it's always best to meet first. So I'm big on SA, Tinder, FB, Cupid, you name it. Many are clear on wanting serious rel and no money will be mentioned of course before or after, then the questionable ones that are leading toward Friends w Benefit. Just don't mention any amount too quickly. For those who come up with it or ask, it's ok, and once I get the feeling after we meet that they're about their money I negotiate accordingly. But honestly by not talking money upfront, you'll have a high % like 50% or higher that will either not take any money, or not a formal hooker and will surprise you with some hot sex of which you'll feel like you've taken advantage of when she's walking away with nothing LOL. Many will call you tomorrow with a fam urgency for you to help LOL, but then it's ok and your opportunity to offer what you want in that friendship.

    Just ask for a date, and throughout the convo of course mention how you want to spoil her, how you want to have fun, want to make friends, etc. Then we'd meet over drinks, cheap lunches, then go fuck. Some I would offer $0, some would ask for taxi money, some would make excuses that their rent is due and you can basically help however you want, 100-200 k and they're usually super happy. But I make sure they come back for some banging first, spend the night, then go back w that cash. If you take them shopping be sure that they've earned it or worked for it. Don't just spend on them on the first date without banging first outside of drinks / food LOL. You'll be surprised how many bad bitches you'll fuck especially in Col that way with zero money exchanges or obligation.

    Now the possible problems. The common issue in this approach is many guys imagine well what if we finish fucking and she said her fee is 500 USD, then you're obligated to pay or police, problems, etc. Yes this fear is certainly why some argue the need to have pricing set upfront and in writing. But here's how to avoid that. You need to somehow make sure she's no ho, no hardcore pro. Ask politely like "Do you offer sex for money" "Are you a. "dama de compaa", Some will even take offense like college students and business / family oriented women, and you can use that if they later claim cash for sex. SIMPLE! You can do that by either asking her upfront during chat, take a screenshot and save for yourself from her profile if she says she's looking for boyfriend, husband, relacion en serio, etc. No ***** can come to accuse you of not paying if her profile clearly says she's looking for a boyfriend. Boyfriends don't pay for sex. Again, the focus and your target is after those new girls or non experienced ones or non / semi pros that are easy to bend or willing to commit to a relationship or friends with benefit arrangements, that love to hang, not watching clocks, etc. Stay away from anyone with fake pics, Instagram type model, partially nudes, fake bodies. And that still leaves you thousands. MDE and BOG are full of those and not enough men LOL. So schedule multiple dates daily if you can.

    Happy Hunting.
    I always try to weed out the pros, but if you are with a pro you need to be very upfront with what you want and how much it will be. Unfortunately the hard core pros will often get amnesia when it comes time for sans condom in the room, it's at that point I broom them, give them taxi money and move on. I can guarantee when you meet up with type of working girl the session will always be bad. Better to move on. Remember "Women are like buses, another one comes along in 5 minutes" Also when dealing with a chipper, non-pro, It's not a bad idea during the qualifying stage that you say something like, I understand how difficult life can be for a single mom, or student and you can use little help now and then. At least they know you understand what makes the world go round and know how things work in Bogota. Stay safe!
    Last edited by LatinaLover#1; 04-21-22 at 23:52. Reason: spelling

  12. #11608

    Golden Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1  [View Original Post]
    It doesn't matter what they ask for, only what you will pay. When negotiating face to face, you have the upper hand. They have already traveled to my apartment or to a close by bar or coffee shop so I didn't have to travel bus why transmillenio for 2 hours mas o menos, so THEY are more willing to accept a half a loaf than none, #2 you are looking at her, smell her perfume get a feel for the chemistry etc How can you decide what I will pay before seeing the product. So its ALWAYS better to negotiate face to face. I remember one time I met face to face with a very pretty, big tit girl who just graduated and got an entry level job as a lawyer. She asked for 350,000 cop, we settled on 200,000 One of the best girl friend sex I had for quite some time. I'm sure over the phone that would not have happened.
    You are 100% correct and this should be a Top Post.

    The truth is us mongers are usually the ones who teach these girls how to become hookers. There's a long history on how we've influenced or fueled this hobby in those countries, especially when they ask for USD instead of pesos; that comes from us introducing it, in other words from the fucking SIMPS. For ex, I personally know some Colombians that started on FB for the first time, and a tourist would contact them to immediately solicit for 250 k or in USD for an hour. First, she was new, she would likely fuck him for free, didn't know anything about hourly, would other fuck for a dinner date or just drinks, or would happily take 50 k as a tip to go home and would be thrilled to have an American connection / Fetish / Sugar daddy / Friend or whatever foreigner fantasy these girls have. So basically we train them on the hobby. At least many of them. So next time a guy offers her 100 k she would say no, and slightly flexible around 200 k or so.

    So with what you wrote above is very true in my extensive experience with COL, CR, DR, Anywhere. It works well on newb / non-pros or semi-pros, as hardcore putas always start with their pricing upfront which is ok and I simply treat those as if I was in a brothel. But as far as others, you should NEVER talk price ahead of time on WhatsApp or messenger, it's always best to meet first. So I'm big on SA, Tinder, FB, Cupid, you name it. Many are clear on wanting serious rel and no money will be mentioned of course before or after, then the questionable ones that are leading toward Friends w Benefit. Just don't mention any amount too quickly. For those who come up with it or ask, it's ok, and once I get the feeling after we meet that they're about their money I negotiate accordingly. But honestly by not talking money upfront, you'll have a high % like 50% or higher that will either not take any money, or not a formal hooker and will surprise you with some hot sex of which you'll feel like you've taken advantage of when she's walking away with nothing LOL. Many will call you tomorrow with a fam urgency for you to help LOL, but then it's ok and your opportunity to offer what you want in that friendship.

    Just ask for a date, and throughout the convo of course mention how you want to spoil her, how you want to have fun, want to make friends, etc. Then we'd meet over drinks, cheap lunches, then go fuck. Some I would offer $0, some would ask for taxi money, some would make excuses that their rent is due and you can basically help however you want, 100-200 k and they're usually super happy. But I make sure they come back for some banging first, spend the night, then go back w that cash. If you take them shopping be sure that they've earned it or worked for it. Don't just spend on them on the first date without banging first outside of drinks / food LOL. You'll be surprised how many bad bitches you'll fuck especially in Col that way with zero money exchanges or obligation.

    Now the possible problems. The common issue in this approach is many guys imagine well what if we finish fucking and she said her fee is 500 USD, then you're obligated to pay or police, problems, etc. Yes this fear is certainly why some argue the need to have pricing set upfront and in writing. But here's how to avoid that. You need to somehow make sure she's no ho, no hardcore pro. Ask politely like "Do you offer sex for money" "Are you a. "dama de compañía", Some will even take offense like college students and business / family oriented women, and you can use that if they later claim cash for sex. SIMPLE! You can do that by either asking her upfront during chat, take a screenshot and save for yourself from her profile if she says she's looking for boyfriend, husband, relacion en serio, etc. No ***** can come to accuse you of not paying if her profile clearly says she's looking for a boyfriend. Boyfriends don't pay for sex. Again, the focus and your target is after those new girls or non experienced ones or non / semi pros that are easy to bend or willing to commit to a relationship or friends with benefit arrangements, that love to hang, not watching clocks, etc. Stay away from anyone with fake pics, Instagram type model, partially nudes, fake bodies. And that still leaves you thousands. MDE and BOG are full of those and not enough men LOL. So schedule multiple dates daily if you can.

    Happy Hunting.

  13. #11607

    Anywhere Near Zona T

    Quote Originally Posted by Williston  [View Original Post]
    Hi friends!

    I am an experienced traveler to Medellin. I have been there many times but I am now looking at moving to Bogota for a year or possibly more. I have a fairly simply question.

    I would like to live in an area that's at least somewhat decent for an ex-pat but also with options to walk or short cab ride to monger options. In Medellin I would say the Laureles neighborhood is great for this. Fairly safe and quiet but with tons of working women options all over the area.

    What would you guys suggest for Bogota?
    Anywhere near Parque El Virrey or Zona T are good. It's a more upscale neighborhood with proximities to many good restaurants and places to eat. Also pretty quiet and safe neighborhood too.

  14. #11606

    In every country there are areas that are more safe than others

    Quote Originally Posted by Williston  [View Original Post]
    Hi friends!

    I am an experienced traveler to Medellin. I have been there many times but I am now looking at moving to Bogota for a year or possibly more. I have a fairly simply question.

    I would like to live in an area that's at least somewhat decent for an ex-pat but also with options to walk or short cab ride to monger options. In Medellin I would say the Laureles neighborhood is great for this. Fairly safe and quiet but with tons of working women options all over the area.

    What would you guys suggest for Bogota?
    In Bogota I like Chico Norte. A short taxi, Uber or indriver ride away from most areas you can monger. Anything you need is close by, restaurants, banks, ATM's etc. SF is a short ride away as are many casas and Mezzanine. There are 2 excellent malls close by, Andino and Unicentro Bogota. The best thing I like about this area is if I want to go out later in the night to get some wine or beer or something to eat is it's relatively safe to do so. I won't stay in an area that I would not feel safe going out at 10 pm to a tienda. Stay safe.

  15. #11605
    Quote Originally Posted by FlashShaker  [View Original Post]
    Talking about SA, let me share a little experience I had with one of them. Back in rookie days, had this one girl come to see me in BOG. She traveled 3. 5 h which I tried on several occasions to discourage her from doing but to no avail. She wanted to spend the weekend (fri. Sun 4 p'ish) to take the bus home. Problem was after she got there, she wanted all the GF benefits / treatments but wasnt willing to fuck. She gave a uber quick reluctant CBJ after much pressure then finished with a HJ. Claimed she was tired and didn't feel like having sex that night. Ok. Sat night after spending all day together + money, she tried to pull the same stunt. It was late, we had drinks so I was ready for action. She tried to refuse and offered CBJ. No thanks. It got to a point where I was like we fuckin or you leavin tonight. She thought I was joking until I called the lobby to have them send security to escort her out the room. Security showed up, she tried to explain her way out of it but eventually they told her she would need to leave if I asked her to. Long story short, she couldn't leave. Had no where to go so I banged the shit out of her. Next morning banged her again then after breakfast kicked her out. Never gave her any money either. No morals to the story but just an experience.
    Hmmm. A problem with the sugar baby type thing, they often do get benefits without putting out sex, or at least until later in the relationship So you should hope that she doesn't reframe this as an assault, and hope that she does not have any way of having the authorities track you down, if she does take it that way.

    Giving her money, no forcing her to take money, may have been something you should have done. At least then you might be able to defend your thinking that it was about sex for money.

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