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  1. #11545

    Back to SF

    It's been a while (pre-pandemic), but I just finished up another Colombian trip. It was nice to walk the streets of Santa Fe again. I love it there, but a man has to know what to expect. There are guys who keep their eyes glued to their phone messing around with dating apps, or guys on SA playing the role of sugar daddy, deluded into thinking they actually have a girlfriend. Take the money away and see how long they stay. But, in SF all you need to do is walk out of your hotel and go shopping. Pick the beauty of your choice, negotiate up front on what you want, and do the deed. It's that simple. I spent a lot of time banging the young Vennies on Calle 23. Prices will cost you from 30 K up to 100 K if you want more than the standard. Don't come here looking for GFE, you're just renting their bodies, and that's exactly what I like. If I want a GFE, I get an actual GF back home based on my looks. Then again, I'm not an old, flabby guy with a gut bigger around than his waist. No offense to those who fit that category, they actually do need to pay for it. But, if you're in good shape, or even just a regular guy, keep your gfs for back home, and only use SF for renting bodies. If you keep that in mind, than you'll know what to expect, and you'll have a great time. As for safety, I never had a problem, nobody followed me, or stared in my direction. For the most part they don't care. Just stick to your business, don't wear jewelry (who you trying to impress anyway), and be casual. Don't listen to the doom and gloom reports. If you stick to the main area, you'll be fine. There are plenty of girls around. I even found a couple good ones on Sunday during the day. You're on vacation, talk to the guys hanging outside the bars, chat up the girls, enjoy yourself and relax. Nobody is out to get you. It's a RL district that's policed. You get to nail good looking chicks for low prices. It doesn't get anymore straightforward than that. Go have fun guys.

  2. #11544
    Quote Originally Posted by ZedLeppelin10  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    I've got a trip booked to Bogota from April 3rd to all of May. I've been to Medellin before but that was to go see one girl and be with her so I didn't see anyone else in that time. This time, I'm going to go meet several girls I've been talking to with the expectations of sex (Threesomes and more), some with the expectations of being my guide and showing me around (which I hope ends with sex. Building rapport now), and I'm also interested in getting prepagos / escorts. I'll be doing sight seeing and meeting people too since I won't spend two months of just straight fucking, LOL.

    Anyways, I'm in my 20's, Hispanic and look it, speak Spanish pretty well which allows me to talk to these girls very easily, college graduate, and am decently attractive. Slightly overweight but you wouldn't know it from just seeing me. I'm in the process of losing weight for this trip. I'm down to meetup with any of you, talk, shoot the shit, and am overall, hangout, pick up girls, and have a good time. We can go out and hang out and do mongering together or whatever. Just looking to make these two months extremely memorable with some Colombian and Venezuelan beauties. I don't give a fuck about your age or anything, just be cool and normal and we'll get along just fine.
    Hi ZedLeppelin10,

    Great, just let me know and we go out and see what we can find, I have been living here for many years, but have let go a bit mongering.

  3. #11543
    Quote Originally Posted by StinkySquid  [View Original Post]
    Oh I forgot one girl from last year, Venezolana from CL 61 #13-44. She was nominally 18 at the time, and super cute, I liked her from my heart so much, that I didn't even finish with her. I started taking her under my wings. I played Captain Save-a-Hoe, literally. And it was not easy, but it worked. Within a month I had her come clean with her family at home, no more hiding, and shipped her home. Then it was a tough time supporting her given that so much bullshit was happening. But she got her act together and started grooming her little family farm, took courses in hair dressing, and set up a little shop, and I even got a 4 x4 truck for her (it was so incredibly cheap there in Venezuela, I just couldn't let that opportunity pass) and now she runs little freight jobs too. That girl was in this business starting with 15, and it's pretty exploitative. Now she's free of this because she got a little hand and mentorship from me. I am very pleased how that turned out. Sadly, I never got back from the role of her substitute dad to actually become her lover. But then, there are so many other options.
    SS, you have got to do better with whom you invest your heart and money into. Look I get the emotional payoff of helping someone but if you do not get something in return like with this one, then you need to re-evaluate what you are doing. How come you are pleased? What did you get out of this?

    I do not agree with everything Rich Cooper and Roland Tomassi on everything. They are manosphere leaders and podcasters, however they have focused on something that Hollywood movies want you to believe is true but is not. You cannot manufacture desire; it is either there or it is not, and you were trying to do that with this girl.

    I am living proof that desire can exist with a 10 type and the guy can be older and not Brad Pitt, but it took a long time to get there. Go back and look at the first encounter you had with her. Did she want to stay or leave the room? How quickly does she get back with you? Is she sending you texts telling you how she is doing and asking how you are doing on a daily basis? Does she ever turn you down for sex? Do you feel loved and cherished in the relationship, or is the only time she texts / calls you is for money?

    What I can say about Vennie women is that they are smart, tough, great in the sack, but most of all, they are fucking nuts. I do not know how I could be sane in that climate. Everything the government says is a lie. Anyone who invested for the long term was stupid, and the only people who made it were the short term robbers or drug lords. Everyone in Venezuela agrees with the statement, "Venezuela is a rich country but it is not rich because" And the because is they were stolen from. So you have a country that thinks it is okay to steal because everyone has stolen from them. Hugo Chavez was not a kook in that he took Venezuela to a point where they are now; he personified who Venezuelans are. He demonized the rich, glorified the poor, and snuck at least $8 billion out of the country in his daughter's name and said daughter lives in Miami. You are trying for a win-win relationship in a country with a people who have never had win-win.

    Then from a mental health standpoint, there are people drinking from filthy rivers and eating garbage. I do not even want to guess how many toxins are in the food, and that fucks with people's minds. You have a petro nation with no obvious safety controls on production. I am not talking about having good bodies, but the only healthy appearing Vennie I ever met was out of the country for a long time.

    And SS I just do not think the 18 or 19 YO working girl is going to appreciate you like a woman who has had a job and knows how hard it is to put food on the table.

    I admire what you are trying to do. I just think you should focus more on helping yourself too.

  4. #11542

    The World of Prepagos is Essentially a Dating Service

    I am known from my earliest exploits here (over a decade ago now, haha) to be falling in love. I love emotions. And we're chatting about Bogota girls, and some were complaining. I too find that Brazilians are generally more open and there is more interesting activity to be had in São Paulo compared to Bogotá. But the factor to consider is the Venezolanas. Most Venezolanas are here to try to get out of financial difficulties, but it's generally not working out well. What this means is that you get rather timid girls who are not in it for the love of the job. Compare that with my little porn starlet in Brazil, and it's a totally different feeling. You got to woo the girls a bit, and make them be at ease, and some of them you will not be lucky. It is all about if they like you a bit at least, some chemistry. I find that's the big success factor.

    I have reported before that on mileroticos I had now 3 jackpot landings with really cute new-in-the-business girls. The first one, we had some chemistry and I would have gone right back to her, but then she didn't reply to my personal conversation in a personal way. So I went on elsewhere. But she was nice, and I should have gone back. Venezolana.

    The next one wanted me to be her sugar daddy, and she was very cute, but she scared me because of her story of gang involvement, dad in prison for murder, and she too had killed one. So I bowed out of that one. But she was so cute, maybe too flat. But did I mention so cute? She needed a return visit to fully thaw the ice, but I had other things to do before getting myself back into the risk of being with a cute but crazy girl who sometimes kills. That one was not from Venezuela.

    Now the third, that's turning out a romantic affair for me. Also very cute girl, just 18 or nominally 19 or so. She had a very strong suggestion on her profile, which spoke deep to the kinky side of my soul. So I put that right out on the table on my first WhatsApp message. And I just didn't go for several weeks, until she was back in Venezuela. But we got to chat a bit as she was there, personal, and then she started trying to woo me. Talked really sweet with me. (I do put my photo in my WhatsApp and upon first successful contact add the girls to my address book so the photo becomes visible. I want to give them the chance to reject me based on it, or, as in this case, start being more friendly. Now we have a little long distance affair.

    The thing is with these Venezolanas, they have a tough life, and they don't even make that much in this business. And so, if you get to them, and win their trust, you get other places. It's something for the emotion junkies like me. If you want to have cool PSE sex, it may not be the thing.

    Oh I forgot one girl from last year, Venezolana from CL 61 #13-44. She was nominally 18 at the time, and super cute, I liked her from my heart so much, that I didn't even finish with her. I started taking her under my wings. I played Captain Save-a-Hoe, literally. And it was not easy, but it worked. Within a month I had her come clean with her family at home, no more hiding, and shipped her home. Then it was a tough time supporting her given that so much bullshit was happening. But she got her act together and started grooming her little family farm, took courses in hair dressing, and set up a little shop, and I even got a 4 x4 truck for her (it was so incredibly cheap there in Venezuela, I just couldn't let that opportunity pass) and now she runs little freight jobs too. That girl was in this business starting with 15, and it's pretty exploitative. Now she's free of this because she got a little hand and mentorship from me. I am very pleased how that turned out. Sadly, I never got back from the role of her substitute dad to actually become her lover. But then, there are so many other options.

    I had 3 more Venezolanas at CL 61 #13-44, on the lookout for a re-run of this experience, perhaps this time with also getting some passion in return. First one was rather mechanical but I just finished looking at her thinking how good I have it that I can rub myself off with a sweet doll like that, even if she doesn't want to connect with me. One we had some real chemistry but she wasn't that much my type. Another one we started with chemistry, she wanted to like it, and we kind-of lost steam mid-way. Then I went back at just being in this state looking at that face thinking how cool it is to do a girl with that homely face we have hereabouts, and thinking what if that was my wife and now 20 years older. I dunno, I have these thoughts. None of the three lit a spark.

    Until the one came who started wooing me. And now I am in love again, after quite some time. And it's really good. But soon I must return to Brazil taking care of my babies there, and have a last session with my little porn starlet friend before she leaves for London.

    I just wanted to put this out there, that el mundo prepago is essentially an introduction platform, a type of speed-dating, where you actually deal with real human beings, not so much performers. Personally, I like the good performers like my porn starlet in São Paulo who's also a friend and we have had great memorable sessions, and I like the fresh real ones, who aren't in this business for the fun of it, and many don't like it at all.

  5. #11541

    Fiebre and paisas in SF

    Hi all,

    I am living for over 8 years here in Bogota and haven't been for ages back in SF. Anyone knows how the situation is in clubs like Fiebre and Paisas (I think the clubs called like this)? I have been with a friend in some reservados in the north but the prices are going through the roof and the chicas were less than regular.

  6. #11540

    In Bogota in April / May

    Hey guys,

    I've got a trip booked to Bogota from April 3rd to all of May. I've been to Medellin before but that was to go see one girl and be with her so I didn't see anyone else in that time. This time, I'm going to go meet several girls I've been talking to with the expectations of sex (Threesomes and more), some with the expectations of being my guide and showing me around (which I hope ends with sex. Building rapport now), and I'm also interested in getting prepagos / escorts. I'll be doing sight seeing and meeting people too since I won't spend two months of just straight fucking, LOL.

    Anyways, I'm in my 20's, Hispanic and look it, speak Spanish pretty well which allows me to talk to these girls very easily, college graduate, and am decently attractive. Slightly overweight but you wouldn't know it from just seeing me. I'm in the process of losing weight for this trip. I'm down to meetup with any of you, talk, shoot the shit, and am overall, hangout, pick up girls, and have a good time. We can go out and hang out and do mongering together or whatever. Just looking to make these two months extremely memorable with some Colombian and Venezuelan beauties. I don't give a fuck about your age or anything, just be cool and normal and we'll get along just fine.

  7. #11539
    Quote Originally Posted by Aureliano16  [View Original Post]
    And the best bang for the buck prize goes to "Valery" a Venezuelan streetwalker from Santa Fe, located in the north west corner of Carrera 15 with Calle 24. For 40 k I'd have loved to kiss her passionately and I think she'd have kissed me back, but I don't trust in the tidiness / health of such cheap girls. They must make up in volume what they lose in charging so little. So I didn't want to risk.
    You have to remember that for a national minimum wage of 800,000, she would only need 20 guys per month at 40K. The volume is not as high as one would think.

  8. #11538
    Quote Originally Posted by Aureliano16  [View Original Post]
    My overall impression is that the prices have been going up and up after the pandemic and that it's getting harder to find good value for low prices.
    I fucked a chick in Barranquilla back in October for 100,000. Earlier this month I wanted to fuck the same chick but she told me 150,000. 200,000 plus taxi if she came to me. I was only like 3 or 4 blocks from her house where I fucked her last time.
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  9. #11537
    Quote Originally Posted by Aureliano16  [View Original Post]
    I was in Bogota for 3 months and visited every type of establishment from SF to sites in the north and also hired some prepagos from websites. I spent over 4 M COP on prostitutes and fucked 19 times including 2 threesomes. I also repeated with some girls. Ended up with 6 whatsapp contacts.

    My overall impression is that the prices have been going up and up after the pandemic and that it's getting harder to find good value for low prices. But it's still possible to find great girls in Colombia, I love their bodies and their attitude. I still need to go to Brazil to compare, though.

    I'm considering to create a small website with a map that has all the places I visited including prices / times and the exact address. Would I be able to post an URL of it in this forum? Or would that be seen as spamming? I found very hard to find updated and realiable information on the several places that exist in Bogota, especially the cheaper ones.

    The best looking girl of my journey was "Monserrat" from Sensity Spa (CL 77 13-22) I'd rate her with a 9/10 if only she didn't have a big "tramp stamp" tattoo on the lower back. Natural big tits, big ass and a great young face, she just looks gorgeous. Problem is she doesn't kiss and is not very involved with her customers. She is a professional and just wants you to cum quickly and be over. I don't blame her nor judge her, she is just in this business for the money and has a fixed goal in mind, told me she'd quit the very next day she hits her goal..
    Nice report. Despite some declaring the death of Colombia clearly YMMV. I have had horrible expensive girls and some great experiences with Santa Fe types. Even tho they are doing a job some people will just vibe better together than others.

    As for your idea with the website / map, go for it. Plenty of people here have dropped links to other websites offering relevant info and a few have posted links to google maps with casa info on it.

  10. #11536

    Bogota 3 month report

    I was in Bogota for 3 months and visited every type of establishment from SF to sites in the north and also hired some prepagos from websites. I spent over 4 M COP on prostitutes and fucked 19 times including 2 threesomes. I also repeated with some girls. Ended up with 6 whatsapp contacts.

    My overall impression is that the prices have been going up and up after the pandemic and that it's getting harder to find good value for low prices. But it's still possible to find great girls in Colombia, I love their bodies and their attitude. I still need to go to Brazil to compare, though.

    I'm considering to create a small website with a map that has all the places I visited including prices / times and the exact address. Would I be able to post an URL of it in this forum? Or would that be seen as spamming? I found very hard to find updated and realiable information on the several places that exist in Bogota, especially the cheaper ones.

    The best looking girl of my journey was "Monserrat" from Sensity Spa (CL 77 13-22) I'd rate her with a 9/10 if only she didn't have a big "tramp stamp" tattoo on the lower back. Natural big tits, big ass and a great young face, she just looks gorgeous. Problem is she doesn't kiss and is not very involved with her customers. She is a professional and just wants you to cum quickly and be over. I don't blame her nor judge her, she is just in this business for the money and has a fixed goal in mind, told me she'd quit the very next day she hits her goal.

    The winner of best service was "Alison" from Loutron. It's the best service I've ever gotten from paid sex. She begged me to perform a BBBJ, she said she loved my cock and tried really hard to deepthroat it until getting some tears. She squirted using my dick as a dildo to rub her clit. I could only met her twice, and in the end I told her I wish I would not lose her number because I was going back to Europe and my Colombian number would be gone, she sounded genuinely scared and told me that such a thing should never happen so she gave me her real name, last name and instagram account. Judging by her photos it seems she is currently in Mexico.

    And the best bang for the buck prize goes to "Valery" a Venezuelan streetwalker from Santa Fe, located in the north west corner of Carrera 15 with Calle 24. For 40 k it was amazing, she took all the initiative, told me what position to fuck her, we would switch positions all the time, she told me to pull her hair, to spank her ass, etc. We also looked at each other eyes very lavishly and sexy while she was on top. She was young, early twenties. I'd have loved to kiss her passionately and I think she'd have kissed me back, but I don't trust in the tidiness / health of such cheap girls. They must make up in volume what they lose in charging so little. So I didn't want to risk. I got her number and tried to schedule with her a couple of times but could not in the end.

    The threesomes were not noteworthy; maybe one were I paid extra to get BBBJ from both girls, so one mouth sucking balls and other mouth sucking my dick bare at the same time felt great, but the sex itself was not so good, especially because of the change of condoms from going to one pussy to the other.

    So, let me know if you'd like to see some Bogota website with all the info, I'm thinking of doing maybe a map or something.

  11. #11535

    It is the culture

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    What did she say about showing up to work late or the boss showing up with their paycheck late?
    I have traveled and worked extensively in Latin America and I can tell you that it absolutely is the culture that time doesn't have a lot of meaning.

    In many Latin American countries, there are two shifts for school. Since schools are neighborhood-based through Secundaria (Jr. High) in most countries, mom or dad walks their kid to school, especially of they're younger. Then they get dressed for work, walk to the bus stop, wait for the bus, then get off of the bus and walk to their job. Most folks don't own a car and they depend upon public transportation. Public transportation is reliable but there aren't schedules. When the bus shows up, you get on it. Sometime you wait 5 minutes, sometimes 25 minutes. Why? Because traffic is horrendous in general. And since a bus has a fixed route, a traffic jam causes problems that somebody with a car might not face.

    And since the "boss" was raised in the same culture he understands all if that. So showing up late for work is much more common than it is in North America or Europe. Gringos don't understand this at all and, in general, are upset when somebody doesn't show up exactly when they say they will.

    When I was selling product to companies there, my US bosses got pissed off that I only had two sales calls per day. I explained why. You get up at 6 am, answer emails for a couple of hours, shower, dress and have breakfast. Your first appointment is at 9 am. You get there at 9 but the guy doesn't see you until almost 10. You spend an hour shooting the breeze because jumping right into a serious business discussion would be considered rude. He has scheduled your presentation to his people at 11. The presentation takes an hour and Q&A takes another hour. It is now 1 pm and you need to take the guy to lunch. That takes until 3 or 3:30. By the time you get him back to the office it is 4 and time to get to your second appointment at 5 pm. Same stuff. By the time you get that guy back to the office or home it is 11 pm. You get back to your hotel, stay up answering emails until 1. Lather, rinse, repeat for the next day.

  12. #11534
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    What is up with this going to a place expecting to fuck chicks that look like chicks in another place? All that says is that people did not do basic homework.
    Because you can get on a local hooker site like mileroticos for 2 seconds or even google people location and see images of how the local population looks. Who has expectations of going to Hawaii to see Africans?

    Glad I don't have a problem going somewhere and not being able to pick from what is available to fuck, instead of being disappointed that they don't look like chicks somewhere else. This is too easy to avoid in the internet era.
    Exactly. There are people on youtube uploading videos walking around centro in MDE and Santa Fe. It doesn't get more clear what one is going to see than that.

  13. #11533
    Quote Originally Posted by FudiMaar  [View Original Post]
    My formula in Bogota was to try an un rato with the girls for 30 K, and if we clicked, then the next time, I'd go for a longer time period. I met some lovely girls, who were very willing and enthusiastic in the room.
    Or use that as an audition. If I click with a casa girl I will get her number for hookups later. I almost never bring a girl back to my location that I didn't fuck first. One thing I like about the Colombia is that the casas do not seem to care if the the girls give out their info and side hustle.

  14. #11532
    Quote Originally Posted by PunterMonger  [View Original Post]
    overpaid 1 mil copa (she wanted 1.5 for 5 hrs). Only did it because I got hammered at the club and wasn't making right decisions.
    I had to look twice to make sure I wasn't in the UAE forum.

  15. #11531
    Quote Originally Posted by ArmnHammer69  [View Original Post]
    Last night Sunday in Santa Fe around 10 pm they had police come and shutdown all the clubs for not checking vaccination records to enter. First time this trip it was asked for in Bogot except at restaurant / bars. By default of lack of customers paisas was the only club to stay open as they were lucky and compliant. Showed that maybe 30 men and 20 women were actually vaccinated. Prior to Fiebre, Atonis had maybe 15- 20 girls tops. 10 in Venus and 10 in paisas. One cute tiny blonde Vennie at the street corner entering red light area first street. Friday and Saturday nights were good all though this trip I definitely found the very best girls were out on Friday more than saturdays in Santa Fe.
    I went on Thursday night, Nice SG selection and the clubs were busy-- I talked to my bouncer friend at Venus and he said the police did their shake down and they're good for now-.

    Lotsa police everywhere I saw some on bikes which I have never seen in SF before.

    I was in Troya, Atonis and Venus was not carded at all, great action in Atonis and Venus. There were alot of Hotties. I have steady in Venus and she was busy doing lapdances and I snuck upstairs with another really hot girl who I had my eye on (60 mil). Someone snitched on me and she sent me a text later saying she saw me but she would forgive me if I came back and smashed her, so I did LOL-- seemed like she had not had sex that night -- but who knows?

    TODAY this early afternoon I got texted by this other cute spinner SG I have been smashing. We were supposed to meet and I was on time and she was not there. I had told here that she needed to be there and ready but she obviously got busy. Which I don't like to think about so I texted her that she missed out and nos vemos otra dia. I went walking around and banged another hot Venezuelan spinner.

    There was a great selection of SGs in both areas-- Saturday afternoon is great for SGs.

    I would say that SF is still good at certain times.

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