Bogota Reports

[JackTaggart]

So this trip has not turned out how I thought it would with mongering. I had so many pent up meetings and necessary social business stuff that I have not been able to connect with any of you or do nearly as many things as I have wanted with mongering. I tried SA this trip and have had some interesting results. I will do another post about that as I built on some good previous advice here.

I am staying in the north near Avenida Pepe Sierra and Carrera 45. It was the best place for my work, which is my actual purpose and how I earn my living, so it is what it is. I had a free late afternoon on a Sunday and started looking on photoprepagos. It was too short notice for my SA prospects, I do not feel comfortable going to areas / random apartments that I don't understand yet, and I didn't want to get a different hotel room just for this purpose that day and dealing with women maybe flaking, so I decided to go for what seemed like would be a sure bet at an agency. I came across Miami Vice VIP (https://www.miamivicevip.com/) and started chatting on WhatsApp. So at this point I know that I could spend way less. But from my perspective I was limited on time and because as I said my schedule has been crazy, it was worth it to me to pay the upcharge for this. My Spanish sucks, but google translate worked. My first couple choices were not available, so they finally just sent me a picture of every woman working. After a few more exchanges, it was confirmed. 250,000 cop. Just a FYI that it took about an hour to work this out. I probably could have done it quicker. But there were delays in between on their part too. It is pretty close to Córdoba Local Park in case that is helpful to anyone. I walked along 108 through the park and through what looked like a pretty wealthy neighborhood. It felt like I was in any suburb in the US. It was around 3:00 pm when I started walking and no issues. Walking back no issues as well.

I got to the house and was let in and brought to a bedroom in the front. It had a queen bed, a tv playing Colombian techno and a fridge with free beers and waters. The woman said to help myself and to wait. I did not have any. A couple of minutes later the woman that I had asked for entered and it was an amazing time. Not sure how much ya'll care about the actual details since its 100% personal preference and chemistry. But I had a good connection about a variety of topics and got an awesome GFE experience. The setting was comfortable and we got to talk, bang, and talk. I got her whatsapp and we are setting up time for drinks and more fun. Paid, so its not like I am some Casanova. But I was able to find a girl that was fun and I felt safe with. It was no rush and got all the time that was paid for.

So hope this helps someone that is similar to me.

[Stinky Squid]

Someone posted on the video.

1. Never go to an apartment.

2. Never let them in your apartment.

3. Get their social media accounts.

4. Take a selfie with them and send it to your friends at the beginning of the date.

5. Keep your friends updated throughout the date. (Text in the bathroom).

6. Make a video call and introduce them to your friends during the date. It's fun and if they are normal they'll love to try and talk to your American friends.

7. Don't drink anything you haven't prepared or seen prepared.

8. Double date with a friend or group date.

9. Meet people through friends of friends, social / sporting events, school, church, volunteering, etc.

10. Keep a limited amount of money in your travel account. With the majority of your money stored in the main account.

The biggest thing to learn is how they kept the guy for a few days so they can max out his credit card by moving money through a cash app.

Also here is another good video of how foreigners behave badly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2cGP6BVYQ.

The conclusion is if you are on a short trip, a GFE is not for you. Either you are going to get hurt or you are going to hurt a woman. I am having second thoughts about meeting girls on seeking.com now.

Jeez, I must say I like Brazil more as I have way less weird encounters. Tonight I contacted a girl from a new ad in mileroticos, and I went spontaneously there, apartment. She promised me a bunch of stuff and when I arrived she appeared somewhat shy, but responsive, I guess she seemed inexperienced, a little scared of me from time to time. Told me it was her first time or so. We did the deed, she didn't want to do much deepthroating which she had promised me to be open to try. But in the end she wanted to get CIF / CIM. I obliged. On the first squirt she freaked out and cleaned herself while I had 2 more to go into the hand. Ah well. After that we chatted. I felt she was very anxious, cold, I invited her to relax the entire time, come under the covers, she didn't want to. Ah well, so where are you from, etc. Told me,

She: "the apartment is my own. My dad gave it to me. ".

Me: "Does he know what you're doing?

She: "No! He is in prison. ".

Me: "What? How long?

She: "(Over 20) years. ".

Me: "What'd he do, kill someone?

She: "Yeah. Me too," she said, "I too killed someone. ".

Me thinking what the fuck. Is that some kind of psychopath who will proceed to slice me up? Of course I kept my composure, smiling to her a bit incredulously. She telling me she's involved with some gang and there was some conflict with a rival gang at some party and she gunned down one who I supposed attacked her. And she can't go out and I should tell nobody where she lives. But who would ask me? And if you don't want to be found, why are you posting pictures of yourself in full view on mileroticos?

Other strange things, she wanted to take a photo of the two of us, with my phone. Didn't ask to get a copy of it. Told me to share it with nobody.

She wanted me to take her away to Europe, all her boyfriends have left her because of the trouble around her. To live here with her I'd need to pay a body guard. Oh boy.

I dunno. Maybe that's all just invented nonsense. But what if she does have connection to the gangs?

I got dressed about 10 min before my time, all the while continuing to converse. She asked me for a tip, and, TBH, I did give her 50 because I didn't want any problems. Haha. As I went back to my hotel, I watched my back to see if anyone would be following me. In the hotel I deleted the photos because all sorts of shit went through my mind, if perhaps that was some sort of trap.

Anyway, I find Colombia way more weird than Brazil. God, what all I have experienced here. I am still on my post-exposure prophylaxis from my little mistake entering the wrong way. Last year I was blackmailed by threat someone would report me on false charges (the threat was obviously not thought through, so I would not be that impressed.) But man, I feel like I do not want to do a lot more in Colombia. This sort of thing has never happened to me in Brazil. Well, if you discount the dispute I had with one girl who got all mad at me and then said she would do black magic on me.

Oh and I had bowed out of two dates which seemed fishy both on the same day. One was a tinder date where I got contacted. The other was an SA girl who insisted I meet her in her barrio of Ferias instead of coming to me to Chapinero. I bowed out of both because that seemed fishy to me.

Now as for your conversation here, I got curious about this "never go to an apartment" -- so much action happens in apartments. How are you like completely avoiding that? I doubt it. Can't believe I'm the only one here ever having gone to a girl with her own local.

PS: her ad said she was looking for a sugar daddy too, that's a bit strange. Given that she was so insecure with me, I was surprised she asked me when we will see each other next time. I must say, if she hadn't scared the shit out of me, I would possibly have agreed, since the second time around they are often more relaxed and open. But I'm trying to stay away from crazy. BTW, she advertized 140 mil for 40 minutes, 200 for 1 hour. 50 extra for oral natural. That's what I took. Plus the tip to hope I won't get any trouble later.

[Ggekko2009]

12. Don't end up dead.

LOL, that is a good one.

[Mtljay]

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopolamine.

One common and particularly dangerous method that criminals use in order to rob a victim is through the use of drugs. The most common in Colombia has been scopolamine. Unofficial estimates put the number of annual scopolamine incidents in Colombia at approximately 50,000. Scopolamine can render a victim unconscious for 24 hours or more. In large doses, it can cause respiratory failure and death. It is most often administered in liquid or powder form in foods and beverages. The majority of these incidents occur in night clubs and bars, and usually men, perceived to be wealthy, are targeted by young, attractive women. It is recommended that, to avoid becoming a victim of scopolamine, a person should never accept food or beverages offered by strangers or new acquaintances, nor leave food or beverages unattended in their presence. Victims of scopolamine or other drugs should seek immediate medical attention.

Between 1998 and 2004,13% of emergency-room admissions for "poisoning with criminal intentions" in a clinic of Bogotá, Colombia, have been attributed to scopolamine, and 44% to benzodiazepines. Most commonly, the person has been poisoned by a robber who gave the victim a scopolamine-laced beverage, in the hope that the victim would become unconscious or unable to effectively resist the robbery.

[Mtljay]

Is it you first time? Please update your must to do ten points.

11. It's better stay home.

12. Don't end up dead.

[Igor54]

Someone posted on the video.

1. Never go to an apartment.

2. Never let them in your apartment.

3. Get their social media accounts.

4. Take a selfie with them and send it to your friends at the beginning of the date.

5. Keep your friends updated throughout the date. (Text in the bathroom).

6. Make a video call and introduce them to your friends during the date. It's fun and if they are normal they'll love to try and talk to your American friends.

7. Don't drink anything you haven't prepared or seen prepared.

Is it you first time? Please update your must to do ten points.

11. It's better stay home.

[TuneFor]

Never been to Medellin so I cannot comment on that.

However, I can comment that Cartagena no longer feels the same anymore since the pandemic. In part, all these bad actors from the same "A" grade categorical group, to put it diplomatically, has destroyed all the ambiance and fun for the rest of us hobbyist who understands discretion and hence tend to act sensibly in the local environment. As such, I no longer look to Cartagena anymore as my playground destination.

I was in Cartagena before pandemic and it was ok place but bit too many people pulling you over and hassling.

How is situation now, what did you mean that is not as it was before.

Was considering Cartagena after Bogota ao that's why I am asking.

[Igor54]

Some good advice listed. I think if you were to get an escort to your apartment, it would be worth asking her upfront if they were happy if you could check that they didn't have any drugs on them beforehand. Even explain about escopolamina, which they probably know about. If the girl resists, then that is enough to swerve and move to the next escort.

Reading the forum and watching videos about it, it has made me much more wary. I am genuinely thinking about planning how to handle my cash and possibly move my cash out of my bank accounts.

I watched the Vice News video on YouTube; the bit at the end with the gangster, a good ending to the story.

I think your advice is mainly theoretical, try to do it practical.

[Ggekko2009]

Also here is another good video of how foreigners behave badly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2cGP6BVYQ.

The conclusion is if you are on a short trip, a GFE is not for you. Either you are going to get hurt or you are going to hurt a woman. I am having second thoughts about meeting girls on seeking.com now.

Never been to Medellin so I cannot comment on that.

However, I can comment that Cartagena no longer feels the same anymore since the pandemic. In part, all these bad actors from the same "A" grade categorical group, to put it diplomatically, has destroyed all the ambiance and fun for the rest of us hobbyist who understands discretion and hence tend to act sensibly in the local environment. As such, I no longer look to Cartagena anymore as my playground destination.

[JohnnyWishBone]

Someone posted on the video.

1. Never go to an apartment.

2. Never let them in your apartment.

3. Get their social media accounts.

4. Take a selfie with them and send it to your friends at the beginning of the date.

5. Keep your friends updated throughout the date. (Text in the bathroom).

6. Make a video call and introduce them to your friends during the date. It's fun and if they are normal they'll love to try and talk to your American friends.

7. Don't drink anything you haven't prepared or seen prepared.

8. Double date with a friend or group date.

9. Meet people through friends of friends, social / sporting events, school, church, volunteering, etc.

10. Keep a limited amount of money in your travel account. With the majority of your money stored in the main account.

The biggest thing to learn is how they kept the guy for a few days so they can max out his credit card by moving money through a cash app.

Also here is another good video of how foreigners behave badly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2cGP6BVYQ.

The conclusion is if you are on a short trip, a GFE is not for you. Either you are going to get hurt or you are going to hurt a woman. I am having second thoughts about meeting girls on seeking.com now.

Some good advice listed. I think if you were to get an escort to your apartment, it would be worth asking her upfront if they were happy if you could check that they didn't have any drugs on them beforehand. Even explain about escopolamina, which they probably know about. If the girl resists, then that is enough to swerve and move to the next escort.

Reading the forum and watching videos about it, it has made me much more wary. I am genuinely thinking about planning how to handle my cash and possibly move my cash out of my bank accounts.

I watched the Vice News video on YouTube; the bit at the end with the gangster, a good ending to the story.

[Igor54]

Okay, you have a valid point there. I have only heard more than not that there is simply no hook-up culture there like you would experience in the west.

Also, now that I have learned more about scopolamine, the more weary I am. I have to scrutinize a bit more carefully now with all these SA girls who are so eager to meet me. I actually know of an acquaintance that happened to him in Medellin and it was a nightmare for him. All his valuables were stolen and he was knocked out for more than a day.

I think if the hotel front desk needs registration for all visitors, it will avoid that awkwardness of demanding a cedula. I am not sure if most AirBNB apartments there have the same policy or not, but I would feel more at ease if they do at places where I stay.

By the way, my photos are almost instantaneously backed up to the cloud after they are taken.

You think like children or like a movie fan. The life is not what you see in the movies. If you cross the street on the streetlights you can get the dunk driver, if you are lucky. Or you think that they have to stop because you are the pedestrian and the pedestrian always right. Who cares? If you get overdose, is it important for you if the criminal's pics are saved on the cloud Or if the front desk will resister a girl with ID? She can say any time that you wanted to rape and kill her and that was self-defense, + she doesn't know what kind of drugs you use. She will put some drugs in your pocket and on your hands. What is the next? Drugs will became your problem + a criminal case.

[Mtljay]

New video 2 parts Drugged Tinder Date.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o_Rlu0gldc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S237wG6pTQ0

Someone posted on the video.

1. Never go to an apartment.

2. Never let them in your apartment.

3. Get their social media accounts.

4. Take a selfie with them and send it to your friends at the beginning of the date.

5. Keep your friends updated throughout the date. (Text in the bathroom).

6. Make a video call and introduce them to your friends during the date. It's fun and if they are normal they'll love to try and talk to your American friends.

7. Don't drink anything you haven't prepared or seen prepared.

8. Double date with a friend or group date.

9. Meet people through friends of friends, social / sporting events, school, church, volunteering, etc.

10. Keep a limited amount of money in your travel account. With the majority of your money stored in the main account.

The biggest thing to learn is how they kept the guy for a few days so they can max out his credit card by moving money through a cash app.

Also here is another good video of how foreigners behave badly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2cGP6BVYQ.

The conclusion is if you are on a short trip, a GFE is not for you. Either you are going to get hurt or you are going to hurt a woman. I am having second thoughts about meeting girls on seeking.com now.

[Ggekko2009]

1) Respectfully disagree. There is a very much a hookup culture here. I've experienced it multiple times myself. On dating sites, I have matched, texted and met up with girls for a coffee / beer. If we've clicked, we head back to my hotel and bang. On numerous occasions. Sometimes, the girl just comes straight to the hotel, we chat in the bar for half an hour to build comfort, and then go upstairs to do the deed. No money changes hands. These are regular girls with day jobs. I very rarely drink alcohol with them, and I watch my soft drinks of course, and have all my valuables locked up in various locations in the room.

And on three occasions, these girls have become friends / regulars. I'm seeing one of them tomorrow for our 4th meeting. I like to have a couple of civvie girls in my rotation as well as banging putas in casas.

3) Asking them to give you their cedula so you can take a photo of it will not help built rapport. In fact, it will destroy it. It will kill the mood, and if the girl is a non-WG, then there's a good chance that I can kiss goodbye to any sort of action. And if the girl is a scammer, then having a photo of their cedula on my phone will be of little help if they then scopolamine my ass and steal that phone.

I personally know a guy here who was scopolamined. It happened in a bar, where 2-3 girlfriends were all telling him how handsome he was, and in his own words "they kept making me drink". Two obvious red-flags right there:

A) when 2 or more girl-friends show interest in you with over-the-top compliments, or.

B) they're encouraging you to drink.

Then you have a potential situation. These girls often work in pairs. One distracts you, whilst the other spikes your drink.

Interesting enough, the casas are THE safest place to be from my experience. Even the most rough looking ones, on a dodgy looking calle, seem safe once inside. And the touts who promote them, although very enthusiastic at times, are never rude or aggressive when I say "No gracias."

Okay, you have a valid point there. I have only heard more than not that there is simply no hook-up culture there like you would experience in the west.

Also, now that I have learned more about scopolamine, the more weary I am. I have to scrutinize a bit more carefully now with all these SA girls who are so eager to meet me. I actually know of an acquaintance that happened to him in Medellin and it was a nightmare for him. All his valuables were stolen and he was knocked out for more than a day.

I think if the hotel front desk needs registration for all visitors, it will avoid that awkwardness of demanding a cedula. I am not sure if most AirBNB apartments there have the same policy or not, but I would feel more at ease if they do at places where I stay.

By the way, my photos are almost instantaneously backed up to the cloud after they are taken.

[Woodman09]

New video 2 parts Drugged Tinder Date.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o_Rlu0gldc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S237wG6pTQ0

[Igor54]

I watched several of David's videos in the past and he is based mainly out of Medellin. Definitely a good tip and he almost could not come out to say it the last minute of his video. In short, he hinted that if you guys just want to have sex, there are places like casa that are in fact safer than just bringing random girl from the bar who are eager to follow you back to your hotel or AirBnb.

In summary,

1) There are no hookup culture in Colombia, do not expect to get lucky as any eager girls are always up to something. Always approach with huge caution and suspicion.

2) Look out for any unattended drink which will give the girl opportunity to roofie you. Drink from a bottle that is opened in front of you if possible. Get a wingman to party in bar to look out for one another.

3) Cedula or ID, snap a copy of it from your phone to consciously let them know that you have their info. Hopefully, that could at least deter.

Stay safe and have lots of Safe Sex, jejeje.

#1 (There are no hookup culture in Colombia) if someone think that 20-25 year Colombiana can't fall asleep because she is dreaming about 50+ year old Gringo dick and badly need sex, you need ask your mom about that.

#2 you can't 100% control your food, drink, etc. Because when you drunk, have erection, etc man's brain does not work. +there are many other ways to get you dragged or rob you. For example show you a gun, or kick you in the balls. Its more simple than you think.

#3 they will take your phone including your snaps.