Bogota Reports

[Voodoo Jones]

Alright, day 4 was the best by far. Got dinner and drinks with the girl I met off SA on day 2 and her friend. Had my first threesome and it was awesome. Spent close to 7 hours together and gave them a gift of 300 K each. Totally worth it and then some. One girl on SA tried charging me $360 (1,400 K) for a threesome with her friend. Fuck all that.

This experience alone made paying and browsing SA worth it. We already made plans to repeat the night when I'm back in Bogota later in the year. They want to see me again before I leave, but I doubt I will have the time because I have another SA date on Monday.

[RakSopheni]

An increase in gringo traffic raises concerns about price increases. Some prices for higher-end girls at top-tier night clubs like Fiebre or Troya have gone up slightly since my last trip a year ago. Such girls that might have accepted 80 k before now want 100 k, although some of the less competitive night club girls might still accept 80 k. Street prices have remained more stable, with most of them still quoting typical base rates of 40 k-60 k, excluding any extras. If there has been any increase in street prices at all, it has been in surcharges for extras like BBBJ, E. G. Some want as much as 40 k-50 k extra just for a BBBJ add-on (if they are willing to do it at all, that is). Some street girls will nonetheless still accept as little as 10 k-20 k extra for BBBJ. These slight increases are nonetheless small potatoes compared to the rampant price inflation among Medellin Facebook girls, and I saw no solid proof that these slight increases had any connection to the more noticeable gringo presence. Santa Fe remains highly cost-competitive if one is OK with the "hit-it-and-quit-it" style of service and the ghetto environment.

Inspired by this excellent report of BM GringoItaliano, I will soon be spending a week exclusively in SF focusing solely on SW and club girls there. I might visit Loutron (a very good recent recommendation made me curious) but will not be bothering with Tinder, SA, or any other clubs. I've done SF a couple of times previously, but not with the focus I plan on and details on negotiating are a little rusty.

Some questions- do you guys find that SF street girls quote the price with the room (pieza?) included? How is this best handled? Should you defer to her choice on a nearby room? Try to take her to a nearby Airbnb? The last time I was there I recall being skimmed by my provider for what seemed like some extras that may or may not have been passed on to the short time hotel (I gave her the money and she gave it to them). If anyone has any advice on this bit of negotiation and the etiquette involved that would be very helpful.

[Voodoo Jones]

I totally get what you mean about the stripper games, and I carried it with me to Colombia, and honestly, it got in the way. Sure, some of the SA women were stripper like but many, many of them are not. Invest your time in the ones that do not want to talk about money or at least not after the first date.

If your instincts tell you that she really likes you, she probably does.

Very wise words and your posts were one of the reasons I gave SA a try. I think that last sentence sums up what I was trying to say. She's on SA, so obviously she wants financial help, but I (would like to think) could tell when someone just wants money and on to the next man vs. A chica who likes you but still would want some help. I talked to over 40+ girls on SA and this one stuck out for various reasons I won't bore you with.

I'm seeing her later today and we'll go out for drinks. When I eventually return to Bogota, I'll hit her up again. She offered to introduce my friends to her friends, so I'm fine with things as is. Sometimes you want an escort that will leave in an hour and sometimes you want someone who will show you around the city.

Is she playing the long game? Maybe, but I don't mind paying for the time she spends with me (or else I wouldn't be on SA or this forum) and have no intentions of supporting a woman aboard.

[Gabacho]

Please say something, more valuable than 10 $ cheaper. We need your opinion about; is it more easy to get 7-9/10 girls in Medellin compared to Bogota.

Also what you consider to be a 7-9 is entirely dependent on your opinion. For example I like dark skinned petite vennies, I'm not into silicone tits or ass or women that are super tall. What you consider a 7-9 is probably not what I consider a 7-9. That being said you should just get out and explore and see which place you prefer.

[Mr Enternational]

You think it would make sense that there are hotter girls in Bogota because of the population, but it's not like that at all. You can see it by comparing the amount of reports in this thread vs the Medellin thread.

The amount of reports says nothing to how the girls look in either place. It simply says that more mongers go to one place than the other.

Take the Domimican Republic for instance. There are twice as many reports in the Sosua thread than in the Santo Domingo thread. Knowing both places one can not reasonably say that there are better looking women in a town with 2 traffic lights where you can walk everywhere (which Sosua is), than in the capital city of 1 million people.

The fact is that when people go on vacation they don't want to be cold and wet as they would be in Bogota versus Medellin.

Hell, I'd say Medellin is among the top 5 mongering destinations worldwide for sure.

I would say that too.

[Gabacho]

Please say something, more valuable than 10 $ cheaper. We need your opinion about; is it more easy to get 7-9/10 girls in Medellin compared to Bogota.

If your main concern is getting with women you consider to be 7 - 9's (assuming what you consider to be a 7-9 is the same as most ppls) then I would say Medellín, specifically Parque Lleras. It may cost more but you will find more "7-9's" there than you will in Santa Fe in Bogota.

[Orgasmico]

Those who choose Bogota. Why? MDE seems like it's much more active for women, based off the forums.

I'm planning my first trip to COL now, and debating which city to choose.

Thanks in advance for your input.

I would either be staying near Chapinero (Avenida Chile Centro Mall), or Usaquen (Parque Nueva).

I've lived in Medellin for almost 5 years now. I love Bogota. I wouldn't base my travel plans on what I see in this forum. If I listened to people in forums, I wouldn't have done 80% of the stuff that I've experienced.

I just read some knucklehead complaining about Cartagena in the forum. When I see people complaining about prices and generalizing from very limited experiences, I laugh.

Do you. You can have a great time in either city, if you are the type of person that knows how to have fun.

[Voodoo Jones]

Of course she is not attracted to you (well maybe a little), rather she is infatuated with the idea that you get in love with her and can get her out of Colombia eventually. Many, many girls are like that here. It's no surprise considering the low wages in the local currency. If you are blonde and not look old you could even pick up girls for free, I remember there was an event called "gringo Tuesday" in a local pub where the original idea was for Colombians to meet with foreigners to practice English but after it was popular enough it was only young and hot Colombian girls that didn't speak English at all but wanting to meet the man that would take them out of here.

I'm not saying you're wrong. Yet, I was born in South America and do not look like a foreigner. I've always done well with South American and Caribbean women in the US and abroad.

[Elvis 2008]

Second day I had my first date with a girl off SA. It went great. We grabbed lunch and spent a total of 6 hours together. She asked for only 200 K while the escort from day 1 asked a little less than that for an hour. She offered a threesome with her friend and I scheduled it for Saturday because it's one of my open days. We're going to meet just the two of us in the morning and then grab drinks with her friend at night. Now your miles may vary. I feel like I kinda lucked out because she's attracted to me. I'm in my early 30's and in good shape. I'm not trying to sound like those guys who swear the stripper likes them. But there's no way she would have charged so little for 5 hours at my apartment otherwise.

VJ,

I am in my 50's in not in good shape and had several Colombian women fall in love with me. People here really do not get how hopeless and shitty a lot of the futures are with these women. Colombians smile, suck it up, and are happy unlike anywhere else I have ever seen, but things are not good there. Colombia should be a wealthy country but they are a corrupt nation. I have also noticed the men are not that ethical and have heard story after story about infidelity. Colombians flat out cheat.

I used SA probably sooner than anyone else here did in Bogota. There were probably a half a dozen times when I met women and money was not discussed. Those were the best dates of all.

Most every guy on here will tell you, "The women just want you for your money." And the best response to that is what money? I almost lost out on my current gal who is a 10 in and out of the bedroom because I thought she was in it just for money. I thought there was no way she would be interested in me but she was, and I knew it because on our second date I gave her nothing, and she still wanted to see me.

I totally get what you mean about the stripper games, and I carried it with me to Colombia, and honestly, it got in the way. Sure, some of the SA women were stripper like but many, many of them are not. Invest your time in the ones that do not want to talk about money or at least not after the first date.

If your instincts tell you that she really likes you, she probably does.

[Fudi Maar]

I remember there was an event called "gringo Tuesday" in a local pub where the original idea was for Colombians to meet with foreigners to practice English but after it was popular enough it was only young and hot Colombian girls that didn't speak English at all but wanting to meet the man that would take them out of here.

It's still an event that takes place every Tuesday at Vintrash on Calle 85. I've been three times. It's always packed, with about 150+ people. It's meant to be a "language exchange" event, but everyone knows its just a social event, or a pick-up place where hot Colombianas come to talk to gringos. I know one guy who picked up a girl from here, took her to his hotel and lost all his money, and cards because she scopolamined him. At 8 pm it becomes a club, and dancing continues till 2 am.

[Igor54]

Right now I'm in medellin but I was in bogot last month. Personally I like them both equally. I know alot of street girls from santa fe and have extensive connections for pussy there. Overall I think santa fe is slightly cheaper Than Botero but I hate the rooms being only 20 mins versus 30 mins in botero. I usually try to bring girls back to my hotel for an hour or longer session which runs about the same 70 k COP in both cities. I'm starting to build more connections in medellin too so there's plenty of options in both cities. I'd say I'd tilt slightly to medellin for the weather, the metro, the landscape, and the police don't seem to stop you and pat you down as much here as they do in bogota

Please say something, more valuable than 10 $ cheaper. We need your opinion about; is it more easy to get 7-9/10 girls in Medellin compared to Bogota.

[Igor54]

If I was visiting Colombia with mongering as the main goal I'd definitely go to Medellin rather than Bogota. You think it would make sense that there are hotter girls in Bogota because of the population, but it's not like that at all. You can see it by comparing the amount of reports in this thread vs the Medellin thread. Hell, I'd say Medellin is among the top 5 mongering destinations worldwide for sure.

Medellin is a special city because of the narco culture. In the 90's every pretty girl's dream in that region of Colombia was to marry one rich drug dealer, one of their bodyguards or any rich person they could find. In order to do that they all wanted to get tit / ass surgeries and whatnot. And the prettiest girls from neighboring cities such as Pereira or Manizales traveled to Medellin to fulfill that dream.

Nowadays with girls charging in Tinder, with SA and with so many foreigners traveling to Medellin for mongering it's the same "culture" as in the 90's. They have just shifted narcos for gringos. But the ultimate dream is the same, get tit surgery and be so hot that maybe one gringo can take her out of Colombia.

In Bogota on the other hand, many girls do want to work by themselves, study in the university and earn honest 250-500 USD monthly in a normal job LOL. Most prostitutes / escorts working in Bogota come from other parts of the country.

Could you say anything from your experience, not from your opinion which is based on reading this wonderful forum? It is a bit different what you think and what you get. Thanks.

[Igor54]

I never been to Colombia. I was originally looking at Cartagena because of the nice coastal weather. However, once I started checking out SA and the prepagos sites, it was clear that most of the girls were from Bogota. It makes sense seeing as though it's the most populous city by far.

You need to decide; if you want to see girls or the sea.

[Igor54]

Question. How good is your Spanish to talk to the SA girls? Also I do not think you have to pay for ISG to get messages.

They smell, google translator. Who cares about your Spanish? It's about the money.

[Igor54]

Those who choose Bogota. Why? MDE seems like it's much more active for women, based off the forums.

I'm planning my first trip to COL now, and debating which city to choose.

Thanks in advance for your input.

I would either be staying near Chapinero (Avenida Chile Centro Mall), or Usaquen (Parque Nueva).

The problem is; its your the fist trip. And you try o figure out of your dreams. Go to Bogota.