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  1. #11094

    Catfishing on SA

    Catfishing in my understanding means someone uses a fake profile for the purpose of scamming.

    I have never experienced this in Bogota, every girl I met seemed legit and in most cases looked at least as good as the photos.

    I did find an apparent catfish in Mexico however. I started chatting with a hot Chinese gal in Guadalara . First of all, wtf is a hot Chinese gal doing on SA in GDL. Then guess what, she suddently started talking about investing in crypto currency. She wanted me to wire $500k to her fathers crypto outfit in Singapore so she can "Invest" it. It was a once in a lifetime, ground floor opportunity...lucky me?

    Basic rule: if something seems to good to be true, or seems "Fishy" (LOL), it probably is.

  2. #11093
    Hi Elvis, thanks for your thoughtful insight, it make a lot of sense. I've possibly a dumb question. If you don't talk price beforehand in Colombia then what's to keep the girl from going after, "Oh, you owe me 2 million pesos, if you don't pay I'm going to the police. " This exact thing happened ten years ago in Cartagena and some guys got in lots of trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Early on, I cannot remember mentioning price with anyone. We would meet and some of the time just go right to bed. Other times, the women would meet and want a price. Sometimes I would tell them no. If the price was reasonable, and I was attracted to them then I would fuck them but in my mind they were a WG. The best sex seemed to always be with the women who never mentioned a price though.

  3. #11092

    Good article on the strata system for living / utilities in different parts of city.


  4. #11091

    Lol

    Has never happened in over 5 yrs, but knock on wood.

    Quote Originally Posted by NeilGeorge  [View Original Post]
    Dangerous, asking them to come over. You can get alot of fatties with thin photos, smellies, and others you would disqualify if you first met them.

  5. #11090
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    This is how I use SA in Bog:

    I have premium membership. At $100 per month its overpriced, but as I am working in the US it doesn't matter that much. You could try free membership first and see how it goes. I don't know what the differences are.

    I set up my own profile with a few pics. I put a very brief intro in Spanish. I say my income etc are modest; if you claim to be a high roller you will just attract expensive girls. Not necesarily better, just more expensive.

    You can put the letters "SD' if you want. It stands for "Sugar daddy", and its code for p4 p. Even in Spanish, they know what it means. The girls sometimes put "SB" (sugar baby) or just "Sugar" in their profile also. Sugar is just a euphemism for money.

    You can lie about your age (e. G. Make it younger) as there is no age verification. You should do this when you set up your profile as you can't do it after..
    Thank you for the info. Does anyone know other platforms / workflow?

  6. #11089

    Pay for it and go invisible.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    I started a new Seeking account and have been focusing here in the States. In less than a week, I already had my first meet and greet set up! Wrote about it in the Seeking Arrangements thread. I can only imagine what it would be like in Colombia or Brazil or some place like that. Lots of scammers and stuff, but plenty of "legit" too. I have women from all over Latin America and the rest of the world contacting me. I hide anybody not in my area. Can't deal with all of that!
    Why would anyone want every ho in Latin America be able to contact / bother him A SD flies above the crowd and take what he wants. LOL I spend way too many hours a day talking with hot, available girls, no time for the barrio chicks. Unless I am in Bogota. LOL YMMV but at lease change the size of the net your using.

  7. #11088
    Quote Originally Posted by Igor54  [View Original Post]
    I read your posts and a lot of it makes sense, but how do you how do you determine, who is a working girl and who is not? If this is the quality of sex, then a prostitute can do it much better than an ordinary woman.
    Igor I do not recall anyone on this forum using seeking before I did in mid 2019. I would send a woman a message. We would go on WhatsApp and arrange a meeting. Early on, I cannot remember mentioning price with anyone. We would meet and some of the time just go right to bed. Other times, the women would meet and want a price. Sometimes I would tell them no. If the price was reasonable, and I was attracted to them then I would fuck them but in my mind they were a WG. The best sex seemed to always be with the women who never mentioned a price though.

    I have been doing the sugar daddy thing for over 10 years now. The goal is to make women take some form of payment for sex but not feel they are hos. You want them to feel as if you are giving a gift versus paying a wage.

    As far as how to tell they are hos, they have been on the website for a long time, ask for money up front, ask that you get them an uber or taxi, show their cedula without being asked when at the hotel, bring their own condoms, live in the worst parts of town, and you can say they go about having sex in a ritual or job like way with a limited amount of passion and run for the door when done.

    On average, the working women perform better than seeking women but the top women from seeking beat the top working women because of the passion they bring. And the top seeking women have unsurpassed beauty. I have met three beauty queens off the site, two from Colombia and one from Venezuela.

    And if you want a gal like I have, you have to let go of these bullshit preconceived notions like the women want the young Colombian studs. Some do, but there are others on seeking who do not. Hell, they will say they want guys age 30 to 60 in their profile. I am late 50's, overweight, and have a young 30 something woman my friends have called a 10. She has modeled for decades and insists on being fucked 3 X a day, and when I lasted visited her, ran to me in the airport with a balloon and cake in hand. And she is the third Colombian GF I have met from the site and my 4th from South America. I have never met and found a GF or what I consider a sugar baby off of seeking that mentioned a price before we met.

    I am only seeing my current gal now, but I have had sugar babies from the USA, Mexico and Colombia. In fact over the holidays four of them reached out to me and asked how things were going with me and my woman, and I know why. They wanted me taking them out again. When I said things were fine, they lied and said they were happy for me. I know they had a ball when we were together and miss the life I showed them.

    That said, it is not easy. You will get stood up. You will have your time wasted, let down a rabbit hole. You may get hurt and financially taken advantage of when a ho pretends to be a sugar baby but all she cares about is money. They will fool you with their addictions and mental illness. Many of the hottest women have boyfriends and will lie about being single. My current gal hid that she had a daughter from me. This all women are hos crap is to prevent guys from being hurt but it is completely illogical. There are women out there, a distinct minority for sure, who can be trusted, and those are the ones I want to invest my time and money on. You just have to kiss a lot of frogs before you meet your princess.

  8. #11087

    The truth

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Of course it is all about the money if you are making that way. You sit there and talk down on someone telling them how poor they are and that you will give them money. That sounds like some uppity superiority stuff to me. Being an alpha male is not telling someone you have arrived to pay all of their bills and fix all of their problems. Being an alpha male is teaching them ways not to get into problems and showing them ways of solving problems themselves.

    I had a friend in Brazil that went to an interview to get a USA visa. She told the officer how she was going to be staying with this guy and he would take care of everything. She was then asked what if something happens to that person? Visa DENIED! So if something happens to the alpha male that you describe they are right back to square one.

    I approach people in a normal conversation. I would never tell someone I am here to pay their bills and fix their problems. Maybe that is why I do not get chicks where it is all about the money. If I am talking about money to a chick then you can believe 100% that she is a hooker.

    Total opposite from me. I tell them I am going to give them a baby knowing full well that I can't have kids.
    I enjoy reading your conversations with the girls LOL. Seems like you understand what makes Latinas function well. I agree with being sympathetic to their cause, and helping them build their dreams, to help build rapport. You treat them like girlfriends, and they treat you like a boyfriend, the sex is just part of the relationship. Funny thing though, this girl is saying that she'll be there for you, as long as you say the truth, so don't let her find ISG LOL.

  9. #11086
    Quote Originally Posted by Jrealyo  [View Original Post]
    Funny, SA is a diamond for me. This is the same I do while in Bogota for 2 weeks.

    The only difference is I skip the dinner part and just ask them to come over. Usually a 80% success rate.

    Great report Pussycat.
    Dangerous, asking them to come over. You can get alot of fatties with thin photos, smellies, and others you would disqualify if you first met them.

  10. #11085

    Same Here

    Funny, SA is a diamond for me. This is the same I do while in Bogota for 2 weeks.

    The only difference is I skip the dinner part and just ask them to come over. Usually a 80% success rate.

    Great report Pussycat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    This is how I use SA in Bog:

    I have premium membership. At $100 per month its overpriced, but as I am working in the US it doesn't matter that much. You could try free membership first and see how it goes. I don't know what the differences are.

    I set up my own profile with a few pics. I put a very brief intro in Spanish. I say my income etc are modest; if you claim to be a high roller you will just attract expensive girls. Not necesarily better, just more expensive.

    You can put the letters "SD' if you want. It stands for "Sugar daddy", and its code for p4 p. Even in Spanish, they know what it means. The girls sometimes put "SB" (sugar baby) or just "Sugar" in their profile also. Sugar is just a euphemism for money.

    You can lie about your age (e. G. Make it younger) as there is no age verification. You should do this when you set up your profile as you can't do it after.

    A week or two before a trip I set my location to where I'm going, e. G. Bogota. Then search for whatever you want, e. G. Bogota, 50 mile radius, age 18-25, etc. Then search and just start "liking" gals you like (click the heart icon). You can also message them directly.

    I usually go for average girls, girl next door types; less hassle and more willing to please than Instagram model type bitches. Remember, even the average girl in Bogota is hot compared to most western bitches.

    If it is more than a few weeks away I wouldn't bother as they will lose interest. One week before is ideal.

    Response rate for me was about 30% for the inital chat. Maybe 1 in ten you will actually meet.

    Even though I barely speak Spanish I do all messaging in Spanish using google translate and copy and paste. You can also translate the girls mesages on your phone by touching the girls message and holding, it then lets you "select all" then "translate" to English right on the screen.

    Once they reply then send a few mesages in chat such as "Hola". "Soy Pussycat", "Como Estas". (Hi, I'm pussycat, how are you).

    Then just move it to WhatsApp (Which they all have) by saying "Tienes WhatsApp?

    If they reply with their number just add a contact on WhatApp then start chatting there.

    I usually come straight out on WhatsApp and say in Spanish " I would like to meet you for a date of two hours; if everthing is good we will make love, and I will pay you 200 mil plus Ubers". Nine times out of then they will either say "ok", or will say "make it 250 mil" etc.

    As for the James Bond shit claimed by some, having "game", banging chicks for free yada yada yada. Sure, do that if you want but when time is of the essence on a short vacation just slap the money on the table and get laid. By the time you have banged one chick "for free" after having wined and dined her at expensive restaurants and hotels I will have paid for and banged five gals from the barrios. When I was 25 I was banging models for free. At 55, I just pay.

    You can order an Uber / Didi to pick them up or you can reimburse them when they arrive.

    I shift it to WhatApp because SA claims to ban users who "solicit pro**itution" which is of course bullshit because that's what SA is a platform for, but whatever, I wouldn't discuss trading money for sex directly on the app. Plus, gals always check messages on WhatsApp all the time whereas they might only go on SA every few days.

    Another good reason to move it to WhatsApp is because if you get in a fight with a girl on the app they can report you and get you banned. If you are outside the app there is nothing they can do.

    Generally any girls with English in her profile or claiming to speak English will charge more. And any girl quoting a price in dollars is trying to charge more.

    Assuming you are in Bogota I wouldnt bother trying to meet anyone who isn't in Bogota. I sent $30 to one gal for a bus to Bogota and then she instantly starting begging for money so I didn't end up meeting her.

    I would tell them they need an ID to meet you ("Cedula") to make sure they are 18 and that they are legit. For two reasons: pro**itution is illegal under 18 in Colombia and they are less likely to scam / rob you if you see there ID. You can even ask hem to send a picture of it if you want.

    Hide / lock up all your shit when they come to you room. Don't take drugs / drink alcohol with them as they could drug and rob you. It never happended to me, but it has happened.

    Almost all gals I contacted were willing to trade sex for money. This is what I got quoted or what I actually paid in Bogota (4,000 COP / USD):

    Instagram model types: $150+/2 hrs (600,000 COP+).

    Gals speaking English well: 400,000 COP /2 hrs.

    Average girl: 200-250 k COP + Ubers (20-40 k COP).

    Low end: 150 k COP /2-3 hrs.

    I suggest an opening gambit of 200 k ("200 mil") plus Ubers for 2 hrs.

    Typical session for me was BBBJ, CFS. Other stuff by negotiation.

    A few actual gals I met on SA in Bogota:

    A medical student.

    An English teacher.

    Several gals from the barrio (slums) in the south.

    A gal claiming she had an online store.

    A Venezulean claiming she was divorced from a Chinese guy and was visiting her sister in Bog.

    A gal who delivered fire extinguishers.

    Naysayers wil trash SA as a overpriced platform and maybe it is, but I think it has some merits. And I know, you can get a streetwalker for 30 K in SF but remember, that's a 15 minute quickie in a shitty short time room in a disgusting RLD, versus 2 hrs of GFE like experience in you own room. You can't equate the two.

    No doubt many of the gals on SA could be found on other platforms / met in other ways, possibly for less money, and if you have the time and contacts to find them then go ahead. At the end of the day, it is just one of the options. If I lived in Bog I most likely would not use it. But for the average two week millionaire SA is not too bad.

  11. #11084
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    LOL. It is not just me that got a GF off of seeking. I met two before mine that I would have characterize as GF like. Kazeu met his GF off of seeking when he was in Bogota, and DonCarlos was so bowled over by a hot lawyer that he almost got married before a fellow ISGer pulled him away.

    Pull them off of seeking and onto whatsapp as soon as you can and when making a search, I would filter so the girls who have been on the site the shortest come up first. The ho types tend to have been the ones on the longest and those who speak English.
    I read your posts and a lot of it makes sense, but how do you how do you determine, who is a working girl and who is not? If this is the quality of sex, then a prostitute can do it much better than an ordinary woman.

  12. #11083
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I have heard enough. You and Elvis have twisted my arm enough that I decided to make another profile on Seeking. I never paid for the site before but for some unknown reason got kicked off. Even when I tried signing up again with my normal email address it said email does not exist. So I used another address.

    I only put 1 picture up and that was literally of the back of my head and 15 chicks have already shown interest. They want that money!.
    LOL. It is not just me that got a GF off of seeking. I met two before mine that I would have characterize as GF like. Kazeu met his GF off of seeking when he was in Bogota, and DonCarlos was so bowled over by a hot lawyer that he almost got married before a fellow ISGer pulled him away.

    Pull them off of seeking and onto whatsapp as soon as you can and when making a search, I would filter so the girls who have been on the site the shortest come up first. The ho types tend to have been the ones on the longest and those who speak English.

  13. #11082
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I only put 1 picture up and that was literally of the back of my head and 15 chicks have already shown interest. They want that money! In the title and description I put something in Spanish about meeting up.
    I did something similar too and put up a profile picture. I am no Don Juan and out of shape, yet I am already hit by many good looking girls in their early 20's that have viewed and favorited me. Several of them even sent me chats and request to view my private photos. I did apply a promotional boost that SA gave me upon completion of the profile.

    Anyway, it will be quite a while before I can make another trip there, so I would not pay for their premium service until a week or so before until I can make the trip again. In any case, I would not be able to respond to any of the girls at this time.

    Also another unscientific analysis, I noticed that Colombian girls seem to be very active and has the most number of Sugar Babies listed. Just for fun, I entered the many cities in the different countries that I would usually visit, and here is my observation and value based on the number of good looking active and new listings in the search.

    Colombia / Bogota: Good.

    Colombia / Cartagena: Average.

    Germany / Dusseldorf: Good (though they are more dispersed in different neighboring cities).

    Germany / Frankfurt: Below average.

    Netherland / Amsterdam: Good.

    Indonesia / Jakarta: Poor.

    Indonesia / Bali: Poor.

    Thailand / Bangkok: Poor.

    Philippines / Manila: Good.

    Philippines / Angeles City: Good (Include spillover from Manila).

    Singapore: Poor.

    This makes interesting analytics in terms of the potential usage and popularity of the app in different countries.

  14. #11081

    Seeking

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I have heard enough. You and Elvis have twisted my arm enough that I decided to make another profile on Seeking. I never paid for the site before but for some unknown reason got kicked off. Even when I tried signing up again with my normal email address it said email does not exist. So I used another address.

    I only put 1 picture up and that was literally of the back of my head and 15 chicks have already shown interest. They want that money! In the title and description I put something in Spanish about meeting up. I will pay the $109 and start hitting them up maybe 3 days before I go to Colombia next month.

    I did set my VPN to Brazil when I made the account and pulled up the cost. That had no bearing on how much it was.
    I started a new Seeking account and have been focusing here in the States. In less than a week, I already had my first meet and greet set up! Wrote about it in the Seeking Arrangements thread. I can only imagine what it would be like in Colombia or Brazil or some place like that. Lots of scammers and stuff, but plenty of "legit" too. I have women from all over Latin America and the rest of the world contacting me. I hide anybody not in my area. Can't deal with all of that!

  15. #11080
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussycat123  [View Original Post]
    This is how I use SA in Bog:

    I have premium membership. At $100 per month its overpriced, but as I am working in the US it doesn't matter that much.
    I have heard enough. You and Elvis have twisted my arm enough that I decided to make another profile on Seeking. I never paid for the site before but for some unknown reason got kicked off. Even when I tried signing up again with my normal email address it said email does not exist. So I used another address.

    I only put 1 picture up and that was literally of the back of my head and 15 chicks have already shown interest. They want that money! In the title and description I put something in Spanish about meeting up. I will pay the $109 and start hitting them up maybe 3 days before I go to Colombia next month.

    I did set my VPN to Brazil when I made the account and pulled up the cost. That had no bearing on how much it was.
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