Bogota Reports

[LatinaLover#1]

Of course it is all about the money if you are making that way. You sit there and talk down on someone telling them how poor they are and that you will give them money. That sounds like some uppity superiority stuff to me. Being an alpha male is not telling someone you have arrived to pay all of their bills and fix all of their problems. Being an alpha male is teaching them ways not to get into problems and showing them ways of solving problems themselves.

I had a friend in Brazil that went to an interview to get a USA visa. She told the officer how she was going to be staying with this guy and he would take care of everything. She was then asked what if something happens to that person? Visa DENIED! So if something happens to the alpha male that you describe they are right back to square one.

I approach people in a normal conversation. I would never tell someone I am here to pay their bills and fix their problems. Maybe that is why I do not get chicks where it is all about the money. If I am talking about money to a chick then you can believe 100% that she is a hooker.

Total opposite from me. I tell them I am going to give them a baby knowing full well that I can't have kids.

How did you get from my statement " a little help now and then" to your asinine statement "you have arrived to pay all of their bills and fix all of their problems. " Also read it again, I never said a word about money, I said HELP now and then! You need to work on your reading comprehension. Next time try staying on topic and don't put words in my mouth.

[Igor54]

Most, the first date if you use the right approach, Sometimes the second if I really like the woman, I'll wait. It's always about the money. I usually let it known during the initial conversation that I know life in Bogota is very difficult for a single woman / mother and they can use some help now and then. I also let it be known during conversation that I can't have anymore kids because I have a vasectomy, that usually relaxes them when it comes time for bare back if I want. A vast majority of woman are attracted to the Alpha male with the where-with-all to take care of them. An analogy: There was a beautiful white woman, blonde in my upscale neighborhood, from a good family. We had a trash company that would pick up our trash twice a week. One of the workers was a well built black dude, good guy always happy. BUT she met and married Charles Barkley of the 76 ers, A big ugly fuck jaja. The trash guy could never turn a hair on her head. Now you tell me why did she marry him and showed no interest at all in the other guy. It's about the money and can you give me a good life / a few days of being a Princesa.

I met a beautiful girl in CR years ago in the late 90's She was gorgeous, a dead ringer for Penelope Cruz. I met her in the Del Rey of all places. She stayed with me for a few days, we went to the beach Tango Mar, we had a blast. One night after dinner while we were finishing our bottle of wine, I asked her, why a beautiful woman, who spoke English and seemed to have it all, Why is she a prostitute? She looked me straight in the eye and said, "I'm not a prostitute, I go with the man for company. " I learned a lesson that day. It's always about the money but they are all not prostitutes.

Your story sounds good, but your logic is a bit weak. I think you should have magic skills to recognize that superior woman in your online chatting. She has to come to your date to stranger. Usually women have filtered or outdated pics and polished profile. You have no idea if she will go for sex. You have no idea what kind of girl she is. And many, many, many if. In addition, you are in a foreign country, which brings many other if. Your language, behavior, attitude, etc. If you like the woman, and what about if the woman like you or not considering that it is the first meeting. That is why your lessons about qualifying are worth not more than a book has written by online Gury for teenagers. Those who dated 25+ women know what I am talking about. Unfortunately it does not work like in porn movies, when a plumber come to fix a sink and a bored housewife 10/10 is jumping in front of him and scrimping fuck me please, fuck me please you are so hot and I can't wait when you push your dick in my mouth.

[Mr Enternational]

It's always about the money. I usually let it known during the initial conversation that I know life in Bogota is very difficult for a single woman / mother and they can use some help now and then.

Of course it is all about the money if you are making that way. You sit there and talk down on someone telling them how poor they are and that you will give them money. That sounds like some uppity superiority stuff to me. Being an alpha male is not telling someone you have arrived to pay all of their bills and fix all of their problems. Being an alpha male is teaching them ways not to get into problems and showing them ways of solving problems themselves.

I had a friend in Brazil that went to an interview to get a USA visa. She told the officer how she was going to be staying with this guy and he would take care of everything. She was then asked what if something happens to that person? Visa DENIED! So if something happens to the alpha male that you describe they are right back to square one.

I approach people in a normal conversation. I would never tell someone I am here to pay their bills and fix their problems. Maybe that is why I do not get chicks where it is all about the money. If I am talking about money to a chick then you can believe 100% that she is a hooker.

I also let it be known during conversation that I can't have anymore kids because I have a vasectomy, that usually relaxes them when it comes time for bare back if I want.

Total opposite from me. I tell them I am going to give them a baby knowing full well that I can't have kids.

[Turgid]

The guys I've seen over the years that scored a lot of women were much better listeners than talkers. Listening was the key, and yes looks seemed to be less important.

This definitely does not apply to non-pro American women. You've got to keep talking. Tell them about your fictitious investments abroad. Your fictitious porche that's in the shop. Your fictitious enormous bank accounts. Keep talking continuously. You stop talking you just might not get that pussy.

[NeilGeorge]

I met a beautiful girl in CR years ago in the late 90's She was gorgeous, a dead ringer for Penelope Cruz. I met her in the Del Rey of all places. She stayed with me for a few days, we went to the beach Tango Mar, we had a blast. One night after dinner while we were finishing our bottle of wine, I asked her, why a beautiful woman, who spoke English and seemed to have it all, Why is she a prostitute? She looked me straight in the eye and said, "I'm not a prostitute, I go with the man for company. " I learned a lesson that day. It's always about the money but they are all not prostitutes.

All women are prostitutes. Are you going to believe and trust a hooker? I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you, my friend. Its always about the money, just like its always about the sex for men.

[LatinaLover#1]

The guys I've seen over the years that scored a lot of women were much better listeners than talkers. Listening was the key, and yes looks seemed to be less important.

The initial conversation in sales is called qualifying. In this hobby it should be used more to get to know the woman. Does she have kids, what are their names. Bla bla bla It amazes me how they begin to open up, and if you show genuine interest and empathy for their plight in life. You get on a whole different level and you will never have better sex. Of course this type of mongering is not for everyone. I had a wing man who could care less, didn't want to know names, no chit chat. He wanted to fuck as many as he could and as he would say, "I pay them to leave!" I was in that state of mind early in my mongering days, Finding a garota on hooker beach in the afternoon, then going to a terma for round 2 catch a nap and finally scoping out TA and Help for the night cap. LOL was a lot of fun but my focus nowadays is for one quality session with a special woman. You got to do what you got to do. What ever floats your boat.

[LatinaLover#1]

How long does it take for you to get a girl? Your timescale. In my experience, a normal woman does not spread her legs on the first date just because she want to make an impression that she is not a working girl. If someone travel somewhere to have a sex, they don't have time to play love games, the only option is to buy sex. If someone good to pick up girls they don't need to travel anywhere, there are many quality girls in your city, if they are getting wet when they see you, why to bother? Do you have anything to say?

Most, the first date if you use the right approach, Sometimes the second if I really like the woman, I'll wait. It's always about the money. I usually let it known during the initial conversation that I know life in Bogota is very difficult for a single woman / mother and they can use some help now and then. I also let it be known during conversation that I can't have anymore kids because I have a vasectomy, that usually relaxes them when it comes time for bare back if I want. A vast majority of woman are attracted to the Alpha male with the where-with-all to take care of them. An analogy: There was a beautiful white woman, blonde in my upscale neighborhood, from a good family. We had a trash company that would pick up our trash twice a week. One of the workers was a well built black dude, good guy always happy. BUT she met and married Charles Barkley of the 76 ers, A big ugly fuck jaja. The trash guy could never turn a hair on her head. Now you tell me why did she marry him and showed no interest at all in the other guy. It's about the money and can you give me a good life / a few days of being a Princesa.

I met a beautiful girl in CR years ago in the late 90's She was gorgeous, a dead ringer for Penelope Cruz. I met her in the Del Rey of all places. She stayed with me for a few days, we went to the beach Tango Mar, we had a blast. One night after dinner while we were finishing our bottle of wine, I asked her, why a beautiful woman, who spoke English and seemed to have it all, Why is she a prostitute? She looked me straight in the eye and said, "I'm not a prostitute, I go with the man for company. " I learned a lesson that day. It's always about the money but they are all not prostitutes.

[Mr Enternational]

The hottie tells Dustin as woman "I just wish a guy would be honest with me and just say he finds me terribly interesting. " A few scenes later, he comes back dressed like a male, tells the woman, "I found you very interesting", and she throws a drink in his face.

I think that is exactly what a woman would do if that happened in real life. What does that tell you about what women really want?

There is no template. You have to play it by ear. You can get one chick by telling her how beautiful she looks and you can get another chick by telling her she is not shit and you are not impressed by her. You can get some chicks by being honest and you can lose other chicks by being honest. You have to feel your way along.

You can also meet every item on each other's list, but if there is no chemistry then it will just be a waste of time. You have to realize you are not going to get most of the women you try for. A good start on foreign chicks is to speak the same language and be familiar with the chick's surroundings. (Or at least be able to act like you are familiar with it to some degree of credibility.).

Last time I was in Brazil I stayed at a chick's house. When I walked in the place was a mess. I gave her the 3rd degree for having that shit so dirty. We fucked and I fell asleep. When I woke up that house was sparkling clean. When I talked to her the other day she said she was cleaning up and that she has not let the house get messy since I got on her case. She said that she was really ashamed. I told her that she needed to be ashamed; you can not live like that. She said that is the truth.

Now take my own kid. I told her that she needed to keep her place clean and she has not spoken to me in 3 years since that day. Some people will love you for one thing and others will hate you for that exact same thing. There is no template. All you can do is be yourself.

[Jazzy Daddy]

All of those things help of course. I'm Not young. Anymore jaja, Self employed so I could travel at will. If I'm somewhere with music I can dance Meringue, Cumbia and Salsa, tried Salsa in Cali but forget it, the Salsa was too fast for me in Cali. Passable Espanole Some Portuguese, it gets better the longer my trip to Brazil gets. I once worked with a guy a great salesman. He was short, fat, pocked marked face but I would be amazed at the hot women he could move out. He would do it over and over. When he finally got married it was to a very hot, younger woman. I asked him how he did it and he said.

" just give me 10 minutes to talk away my face".

You either got game or you don't. Looks get you so far. I've been with beautiful women that after 5 minutes I couldn't get away fast enough. The same for a woman, they have to WANT to be around you, it's no bag of tricks, it's not all about the money, it may be the initial attraction women have to notice you but you have to be able to converse about what ever comes up. Canned raps get old fast. The problem for some guys when traveling is if your an gringo asshole in the states, your still an asshole in Latin America the only difference is your an asshole gringo with money. Open you mouth when you see a woman you like, I once dated a girl who worked in El Dorado, she was asking me the usual questions, did you pack your bag, was your bag with you the entire time bla bla bla. I started flirting and playing around with her, got her number and met up with her the next month when I returned to Bogota. Obtainable women are everywhere in Bogota, waitress, working in th hotel, waiting for a bus, ask for help in Carulla. I once dated a hot woman, 30 ish selling bikinis on the beach in Copa. So there are a million stories in the naked city you just need to get out there and make it happen.

Can you provide some info? Thanks!

[Elvis 2008]

Please LatinaLover#1 tell us down-to-earth mongers what your tricks are, what do those upper class girls see in you: are you athletic, good looking, young, rich, smart, open minded, well endowed? Do you make them laugh? Do you speak perfect spanish or portuguese? Do you dance salsa well? I thought those girls would rather have a local guy with all those gifts to go out with...

Tavares, you are asking the wrong question. What do you really want? Get rid of the Bud Light image of two babes on your arm and a can of beer. Or let's go easier. What are deal breakers for you? On money, I want a woman who appreciates my generosity but can step in and take over or make it on her own if I cannot provide for her for a short time. Some guys are insecure and want women to be completely dependent on them because they like that level of control. Which type are you?

With sex, I want a woman who does not tell me no and who sucks my cock because she loves to. A lot of women have a caring gene. They literally got high when caring for you. They gets just as much pleasure sucking your dick as you do getting it. I want that. I usually like to control the action in bed but again I do not mind if the woman takes over on occasion. Some guys want complete control. Some want none.

My #1 criteria for a woman is that she makes me feel good sexually and emotionally. I know this cannot be a 100% thing but if I have woman causing more stress, shaming me, ETC, they need to go.

The reason I like seeking / SA is that the women there are open to going out with a foreign guy and an older guy where money is probably more important to them than looks and I want a target rich environment. My goal is not to have a bunch of women but the best woman / women I can get.

Did you ever see the movie Tootsie? Dustin Hoffman is playing a woman who befriends a hot blonde bombshell. The hottie tells Dustin as woman "I just wish a guy would be honest with me and just say he finds me terribly interesting. " A few scenes later, he comes back dressed like a male, tells the woman, "I found you very interesting", and she throws a drink in his face.

I think that is exactly what a woman would do if that happened in real life. What does that tell you about what women really want?

[Igor54]

All of those things help of course. I'm Not young. Anymore jaja, Self employed so I could travel at will. If I'm somewhere with music I can dance Meringue, Cumbia and Salsa, tried Salsa in Cali but forget it, the Salsa was too fast for me in Cali. Passable Espanole Some Portuguese, it gets better the longer my trip to Brazil gets. I once worked with a guy a great salesman. He was short, fat, pocked marked face but I would be amazed at the hot women he could move out. He would do it over and over. When he finally got married it was to a very hot, younger woman. I asked him how he did it and he said.

" just give me 10 minutes to talk away my face".

You either got game or you don't. Looks get you so far. I've been with beautiful women that after 5 minutes I couldn't get away fast enough. The same for a woman, they have to WANT to be around you, it's no bag of tricks, it's not all about the money, it may be the initial attraction women have to notice you but you have to be able to converse about what ever comes up. Canned raps get old fast. The problem for some guys when traveling is if your an gringo asshole in the states, your still an asshole in Latin America the only difference is your an asshole gringo with money. Open you mouth when you see a woman you like, I once dated a girl who worked in El Dorado, she was asking me the usual questions, did you pack your bag, was your bag with you the entire time bla bla bla. I started flirting and playing around with her, got her number and met up with her the next month when I returned to Bogota. Obtainable women are everywhere in Bogota, waitress, working in th hotel, waiting for a bus, ask for help in Carulla. I once dated a hot woman, 30 ish selling bikinis on the beach in Copa. So there are a million stories in the naked city you just need to get out there and make it happen.

How long does it take for you to get a girl? Your timescale. In my experience, a normal woman does not spread her legs on the first date just because she want to make an impression that she is not a working girl. If someone travel somewhere to have a sex, they don't have time to play love games, the only option is to buy sex. If someone good to pick up girls they don't need to travel anywhere, there are many quality girls in your city, if they are getting wet when they see you, why to bother? Do you have anything to say?

[Paulie97]

All of those things help of course. I'm Not young. Anymore jaja, Self employed so I could travel at will. If I'm somewhere with music I can dance Meringue, Cumbia and Salsa, tried Salsa in Cali but forget it, the Salsa was too fast for me in Cali. Passable Espanole Some Portuguese, it gets better the longer my trip to Brazil gets. I once worked with a guy a great salesman. He was short, fat, pocked marked face but I would be amazed at the hot women he could move out. He would do it over and over. When he finally got married it was to a very hot, younger woman. I asked him how he did it and he said." just give me 10 minutes to talk away my face".You either got game or you don't. Looks get you so far..

The guys I've seen over the years that scored a lot of women were much better listeners than talkers. Listening was the key, and yes looks seemed to be less important.

[LatinaLover#1]

Please LatinaLover#1 tell us down-to-earth mongers what your tricks are, what do those upper class girls see in you: are you athletic, good looking, young, rich, smart, open minded, well endowed? Do you make them laugh? Do you speak perfect spanish or portuguese? Do you dance salsa well? I thought those girls would rather have a local guy with all those gifts to go out with...

All of those things help of course. I'm Not young. Anymore jaja, Self employed so I could travel at will. If I'm somewhere with music I can dance Meringue, Cumbia and Salsa, tried Salsa in Cali but forget it, the Salsa was too fast for me in Cali. Passable Espanole Some Portuguese, it gets better the longer my trip to Brazil gets. I once worked with a guy a great salesman. He was short, fat, pocked marked face but I would be amazed at the hot women he could move out. He would do it over and over. When he finally got married it was to a very hot, younger woman. I asked him how he did it and he said.

" just give me 10 minutes to talk away my face".

You either got game or you don't. Looks get you so far. I've been with beautiful women that after 5 minutes I couldn't get away fast enough. The same for a woman, they have to WANT to be around you, it's no bag of tricks, it's not all about the money, it may be the initial attraction women have to notice you but you have to be able to converse about what ever comes up. Canned raps get old fast. The problem for some guys when traveling is if your an gringo asshole in the states, your still an asshole in Latin America the only difference is your an asshole gringo with money. Open you mouth when you see a woman you like, I once dated a girl who worked in El Dorado, she was asking me the usual questions, did you pack your bag, was your bag with you the entire time bla bla bla. I started flirting and playing around with her, got her number and met up with her the next month when I returned to Bogota. Obtainable women are everywhere in Bogota, waitress, working in th hotel, waiting for a bus, ask for help in Carulla. I once dated a hot woman, 30 ish selling bikinis on the beach in Copa. So there are a million stories in the naked city you just need to get out there and make it happen.

[Elvis 2008]

I haven't been to Cancun, so I would like to see it myself, preferably with a companion, but I'll keep your suggestion of San Andres in mind.

Trim, it is not easy getting Colombian girls into Mexico. The first time the woman travels I suggest you go with her from Colombia unless she has been to Mexico before. Cancun is way more fun than San Andreas but it is no fun if the women gets detained, and I have had that happen twice.

American is now flying to San Andreas from Miami and you do not have to worry about customs with her. Unless the woman has been to Mexico or you can go with her from Colombia, I think that is a safer move. When I did the trip with three gals, I flew with the Colombian one from Bogota myself.

[Yossarian]

A vast amount of the girls I see never mention money But if your in SF or Pussyhouse or mezzanine for that mater, price will always be discussed. Most of my girls have a job, are professional. Psychologists, Dentists, actresses, models, nurses, Chefs, students in prestige universities. Bringing a few inexpensive gifts like VS lotion, some lingerie, a toy for her kid. This has been working for me for years. It puts the relation on a different level. Most of the time I get girl.

Friend sex, not pro sex for an hour. I was accused by one newbie on this site of lying because I get BBBJ because he could not make it happen. Some guys like the 40 min pay as you go service in places like SF or Vila Mimosa if that's your thing, go for it but the venues are very different and if you treat a educated, professional girl better and let her save face by not treating her like working girl BEFORE you get in bed the experience can be over the top. This type of mongering is not for everybody, this thread has been hijacked, for the most part by the SF crowd and that's ok some guys want quantity, some guys GF session. Most times I go out to dinner with my girl after playtime. Maybe not your thing, There is an ass for every seat. Happy Trails.

This is also my modus operandi and has been working for me for years. I do what works for and pleases me.