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  1. #10945

    My take on Seeking in Bogota

    A few comments on Seeking in Bogota:

    I used Seeking for about 9 days back in September, and I'm using it now to line up some gals for a trip in January.

    As far as I know EVERY girl on Seeking expects to get paid; This is the whole premise of the platform. If they want to give away sex for free they can go to their local club and get it with some ripped 25 yr old not some mid fifties foreigner.

    Back in September I was paying 200-300 k COP (200 -300 "mil") for two hours at my airbnb including sex. ($57-$85 USD) Most of the gals were 200 k. One hottie wanted 500 k and the highest was "$200 USD" (750 k). I didn't take either of those.

    If anything, prices seem to have softened a bit since September.

    I usually messaged them on Seeking then moved it to WhatsApp as soon as possible, because (Ridiculous as it seems), Seeking claims they use bots to detect "Transactional" language and ban the users. I wait until I'm on WhatsApp then when she says, "So, what are you looking for? I usually just come straight out and say something like, "I am looking for a date of two hours, if everything is good we will make love, and I will give you 200 mil plus your Ubers", etc. Nine times out of ten they will say ok, or will say make it 250 k or 300 k etc. The phrase "if everything is good" just softens it a bit so she can imagine that it might not happen or she can tell herself she's not a hooker. (LOL).

    Personaly I prefer to get the girl to agree in writing to sex before the date then its harder for her to turn round and say she didn't consent with all the associated risks.

    I would avoid monthly retainers unless you live there or like making charitable contributions to hookers.

    I suggest lowabling first (e.g. 150-200 mil) and they will counter if they want more. If you start high they won't go lower. The lowest I paid was 150 mil.

    One girl did meet me for free the second time but I gave her 150 mil anyway then she was begging for money soon after.

    I would also avoid prepaying. The one time I prepaid for a gals bus ticket from a town 3 hours away she immediately started begging for money and I ended up not meeting her. But I was only $40 in the hole.

    Even though I barely speak Spanish, I always chat in Spanish using google translate.

    A few girls are in towns a few hours from Bogota and several said they would come to stay overnight. I haven't had a toda la noche yet and people say its risky, but I might try it next time as long as I photograph the gals ID. As others have said, if you are that worried stay home.

    Seeking seems relatively expensive. Street girls in SF put out for 40 k but remember, that might be for 15 minutes. So the hourly rate of SF girls might actually be higher than the Seeking girls. Its personal preference.

    I stayed near SF last time but I was thinking maybe somewhere in central Bogota might be better as a base for hitting online girls because it will be equidistant from all corners of the city. (Traffic sucks and 45 min- 1 HR Ubers are common).

    As far as I could tell, most profiles were real. Filtered pics maybe, but real.

    Seeking is overflowing with girls, but then again, so is Bogota and Colombia in general.

  2. #10944
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    In Rio there are organized gangs that have done this for the longest. They snatch anything that you may have out. In 2007 there was an Italian guy marrying a Brazilian chick and his family was in town for the wedding. The guy's brother and dad were out strolling and a guy rode up and snatched a gold chain from the dad. The brother gave chase running across the street and right into the path of a bus that killed him. Last March my brother was also a victim of getting his chain snatched at the beach in Rio by the same technique. If they snatch it just consider it a loss.

    https://brasil.estadao.com.br/notici...-rio,82529.amp.
    I was definitely shocked-- It is a wake up call. Glad I did not pay the price of a lost phone for that. I have not had anything happen like that in a long time.

    It is a bad omen, I fear.

  3. #10943
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    And a mug. If you had offered 100, she would have asked for 150. You entered the negotiation very high. Why pay high price for shlt service? Up to you, but some people would tell you to grow some balls to protect the market.
    Did I say the service was shitty?

  4. #10942
    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    Be careful in parks and places where bikes are passing you.
    In Rio there are organized gangs that have done this for the longest. They snatch anything that you may have out. In 2007 there was an Italian guy marrying a Brazilian chick and his family was in town for the wedding. The guy's brother and dad were out strolling and a guy rode up and snatched a gold chain from the dad. The brother gave chase running across the street and right into the path of a bus that killed him. Last March my brother was also a victim of getting his chain snatched at the beach in Rio by the same technique. If they snatch it just consider it a loss.

    https://brasil.estadao.com.br/notici...-rio,82529.amp

  5. #10941
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    At the end when she asked to help her out, I gave her 250 mil, and she said, no, it is 300 mil, baby, LOL. Even though we had not discussed any money prior. I did not want to fight over 50 mil, so handled her 300. We kissed goodbye, and never saw her again. She is just a regular ho, even though sweet and cute. 99% of SA girls in MDE or BOG would ask how much money you offer, it is what it is. BTW, i'm in my mid 30's, okay looking and consider myself a fun company.
    And a mug. If you had offered 100, she would have asked for 150. You entered the negotiation very high. Why pay high price for shlt service? Up to you, but some people would tell you to grow some balls to protect the market.

  6. #10940
    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    So much talk about the streetie sweeties in Santa Fe.

    Here are some photos from the South Stroll area a couple blocks south of the North area-.

    This stroll when busy has some nice girls Sometimes 100+ for 30-40 mil. Not as many nice ones like the North area-- prices will go up soon.

    I have banged a lotta girls down here.
    Funny you should mention the price increase. I was there back in October. Santa Fe street action was trying to beat me over the head for 80 mil for 30 minutes. Sorry couldn't in good conscience pay that. I was staying in Chapinero and doing a few casas but would catch the bus down to Santa Fe. I wasn't particularly pressed since this was at the tail end of the trip that included Medellin and Cartagena. I was sitting across the street at a bar drinking and checking out the action and saw one chica flash 4 fingers to a guy which I'm assuming meant 40 mil. And one of the locals at the bar told me it was 30 mil. This was my 2nd trip to Bogota and I did check the board before heading to Bogota so I had a good idea what the price range was. I told one of them just because it's your first time seeing me doesn't mean it's my first time here. I'm not expecting to get the local hometown discount but I'm not going to be their crash test dummy for a price increase either. That's part of what got prices fucked up in DR now.

  7. #10939

    Phone Snatchers on Bicycles

    Be careful in parks and places where bikes are passing you.

    I almost lost my phone sitting in the plaza directly in front of Hotel Teqendama.

    Sitting on a bench just looking at my phone 2 guys on mountain bikes rode past and 1 tried to grab my phone.

    Lucky for me he failed-- he was gone 20-30 feet away before I even realized what had just happened.

  8. #10938
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    It does not matter if you are a fun company or not, they all expect to get paid, that's what they are on SA for. Sure, if you make her feel comfortable and entertained, your dates will go much smoother and she will be more motivated to see you again, maybe you will get yourself a better deal. But you still most likely will be paying. Case in point. Hooked up with a 20 yr college student on SA. Never discussed money, ppm, etc. None of that stuff. However I expected she would ask for money at the end of the date, which she did. The session was decent, she came straight to my place because it was raining, we ordered rappi, had some wine and 1 round of sex. At the end when she asked to help her out, I gave her 250 mil, and she said, no, it is 300 mil, baby, LOL. Even though we had not discussed any money prior. I did not want to fight over 50 mil, so handled her 300. We kissed goodbye, and never saw her again. She is just a regular ho, even though sweet and cute. 99% of SA girls in MDE or BOG would ask how much money you offer, it is what it is.

    BTW, i'm in my mid 30's, okay looking and consider myself a fun company.
    Reasonable. When you meet a girl online, most likely she is a pro, or have a lot of experience. She is to make some money / to be paid, in other words a prostitute. The rest is what you imagine in your head. You can call her a student, Spinderella or something else. It does not change the reality.

  9. #10937
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    JL, if I am 30 years older than the women and you are 50 years older, I do not think that matters. Either you are fun company or you are not. I met an older guy in a nursing home who was so friendly the women would fight over who got to bathe him.
    It does not matter if you are a fun company or not, they all expect to get paid, that's what they are on SA for. Sure, if you make her feel comfortable and entertained, your dates will go much smoother and she will be more motivated to see you again, maybe you will get yourself a better deal. But you still most likely will be paying. Case in point. Hooked up with a 20 yr college student on SA. Never discussed money, ppm, etc. None of that stuff. However I expected she would ask for money at the end of the date, which she did. The session was decent, she came straight to my place because it was raining, we ordered rappi, had some wine and 1 round of sex. At the end when she asked to help her out, I gave her 250 mil, and she said, no, it is 300 mil, baby, LOL. Even though we had not discussed any money prior. I did not want to fight over 50 mil, so handled her 300. We kissed goodbye, and never saw her again. She is just a regular ho, even though sweet and cute. 99% of SA girls in MDE or BOG would ask how much money you offer, it is what it is.

    BTW, i'm in my mid 30's, okay looking and consider myself a fun company.

  10. #10936
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Thing for me is it is very difficult to find a woman in Latin America with any suggestions. They want the man to come up with everything. They never consider that as foreigners what the fuck do we know as far as things to do there. They have no ambition on what to do for fun.
    I use trip advisor look up things to do and pick out the ones I think are fun.

    As far as the women not picking things out, they do not want to be on the hook if you have a bad time or their suggestion is too expensive. I get that.

    I did have one women not like that. She always seemed to pick out things that were often fun but very very high $. Eventually, I had to get rid of her over her greed.

  11. #10935
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesLover  [View Original Post]
    Maybe you have not read that right or you have not understood that I am old, even if kind and god looking and 24-30 year old girls want money from me, even if they aren't pro, or refuse to meet me. I am sure you are under 65. If you were that age, you wouldn't write these things here.
    JL, if I am 30 years older than the women and you are 50 years older, I do not think that matters. Either you are fun company or you are not. I met an older guy in a nursing home who was so friendly the women would fight over who got to bathe him.

  12. #10934

    Regular updates

    Touched down in Bogota recently, and usually I leave my reports till the very end, but thought I'd change it up.

    Context.

    Short of getting robbed blind, I'm not the economizing type. If I want a girl, and the price is reasonable then fine. Service price. Unless they're clearly taking the piss. Prefer whiter, thinner GND types (I know, I know, not exactly the local specialty). I've tried learning spanish, but genuinely awful, so speaking english is a big plus.

    Boring Stuff.

    Very impressed at the airport, had everything you could possibly hope for in arrivals, including a store which sold sim cards at an ungodly hour. Prices were reasonable to me (although undoubtedly marked up 100% Went to departures floor and took an uber. 20 kish to the city. I booked a studio esque room in a very nice building, has some drawbacks, is a little cramped, but very modern and nice. May change based on other recommendations, but it's a good landing area.

    Good Stuff.

    Determined not to let the night go by (despite very late start) I hit up PH. I remember not being impressed last time, so had low expectations going in. It was very late, so less than 20 girls I think, some of which seemed to be hiding around the back (popping out briefly) and a few left shortly after I arrived. About 2/3 that caught my eye, including a lighter skinned spinner. I sat back and had a few drinks and eventually called her over. Quoted 150 for 20 mins, but covered, offered 300 for 40 mins with BBBJ, she accepted. BBBJ was short, but otherwise great performance. I didn't even last my full 40 mins, for me, that's a good problem to have.

    Met one of the SA girls I'd lined up (had a list of about 10, but the list is starting to whittle down very quickly, no replies, currently away etc). Going rate seems to be about 500, and YMMV with what that gets. Not knowing Spanish, chemistry is much harder to build. She a bit darker toned skin than I expected, good build, but had the common skin blemishes in South America (stretch mark, and surgery scar). Nice girl, but not likely to repeat.

    Catching up with Woody this evening. Any other ISGers in town, hit me up. Keen to meet and hang out with others.

  13. #10933

    Santa Fe. Safe with a taxi ride or not?

    Also if you go in a room with a girl, bundle all your valuables into your pants' pocket, leave it on the bed in front of you and hold it down with your hands while screwing the girls.

    Take it with you into the toilet or anywhere you go, just to make sure the fast thieves won't get their super fast sticky fingers on them.

    Of course lock up and chain down all your valuables if you take any girl to your hotel. Do sessions then get them out of the room as soon as you finish. Don't let them linger and find ways to distract you to steal your critical valuables when you are out of the country.

    ST hotels know trouble girls and screen them out, but unless you know the putas very well and have their IDs copied and verified, sleeping overnight with them may be very risky, as they have time while you are sleeping to drug, rob, set you up for serious crimes. Local bros said a lot of Bogota girls use fake IDs so the risks are very high. Be careful with girls who look young. ST hotels may let them use the rooms but it's your risks and liabilities.

  14. #10932
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Thing for me is it is very difficult to find a woman in Latin America with any suggestions. They want the man to come up with everything. They never consider that as foreigners what the fuck do we know as far as things to do there. They have no ambition on what to do for fun.
    To be honest, I have had a lot more fun with African and Filipino girls. At least they are more spontaneous and are satisfied with everything. I was in Cali recently and it was a delusion to track down a white girl who wanted to meet me for no money. I once invited a beautiful white girl to my apartment for dinner and we just had dinner. But I already knew this because she had already told me before coming to meet me. But do you know why I invited her? Because we had a lot of feeling talking in chat. But maybe Colombians don't like me, I don't know that. Yet outside Colombia women would go crazy, just to be with me, because I am also a cheerful and comfortable person. In Cali I was visited by a black girl after her work and she gave me a lot of fun. All the girls asked for money before they meet me. I can assure you that they were regular and not pro girls.

    Let me give you an example: on my return from Colombia to my country, I posted a photo of mine with a prestige car on Facebook and some girls wrote to me immediately. Ahahaha I told them I was no longer in Cali. A beautiful girl who I refused when I was in Cali because asked me money, she wrote to me after looking at that photo and she absolutely wanted to meet me. I replied that I was no longer in Cali and that I wouldn't have met her anyway because I don't like to meet for money. She replied: but I don't want your money. I like to meet you for free.

    At this point I'm thinking: maybe I am wrong something in the approach with the Colombians?

  15. #10931
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    And you know the song, "Girls just want to have fun? I swear to God most guys do not get that. My gal just showed me a cool picnic she went to that was fun, but most guys are horrible hosts. I am taking the women to dinners, shows, snorkeling, cliff diving, boating ETC, and the Colombian guys are like, "Let's go to the local bar, dance, get smashed, and fuck. " Today's women often leave men out of boredom, and who do you think is boring them? It is not me.
    Thing for me is it is very difficult to find a woman in Latin America with any suggestions. They want the man to come up with everything. They never consider that as foreigners what the fuck do we know as far as things to do there. They have no ambition on what to do for fun.

    I even ask chicks if they have seen a restaurant advertised on TV or some place that their friends have talked about and they are always like no. Truth be told you can skip the local bar dancing and getting drunk and just go straight to fucking. I arrive with a pocket full of money ready to have a good time, but just being in the room looking at TV is fine for them.

    Or they will say that they will come up with something by the time I get there, which experience has taught me is a lie. Because like 100% of the time when I am standing in front of them they still do not have 1 suggestion and we are left staring at each other.

    Case in point I am talking to a Dominican lawyer as I write this. I asked her what she would like to do togther. She said drink coffee and talk. I said only this. She said yes.
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