Bogota Reports

[Mr Enternational]

I don't live in isolation. I talk to other guys and compare notes. Or contact a sufficient number of girls, see what number we can agree on and get an average going rate. And sometimes the rates are posted on a wall at some venues, no need to figure out anything. Do you have any other methods? I'm sure you have a crystal ball, because you always know it all.

No. Because I have never professed to paying or there being any going rate. I have always paid what I negotiated. I have friends that give the same chicks 2 and 3 times as much as I do. So is it me that is paying a going rate and them paying too much? Or is it them paying a going rate and me getting a discount?

[MiamiBoy1]

And how did you find out what these "going rates" and "market rates" are? Why can't the "going rate" or "market rate" be considered what people who pay less than you are paying or what the people who pay more than you are paying?

I don't live in isolation. I talk to other guys and compare notes. Or contact a sufficient number of girls, see what number we can agree on and get an average going rate. And sometimes the rates are posted on a wall at some venues, no need to figure out anything. Do you have any other methods? I'm sure you have a crystal ball, because you always know it all.

[Ryck II]

Can you expand more on why you think the sex trade will be wiped out in Colombia? Colombian girls will never stop having sex for money, are you saying they will leave Colombia and work in other countries? That's been happening for a long time already. Colombia's population is booming and its economy is shit. I don't see the sex trade going anywhere anytime soon.

Besides there is a narco culture in which people from lower classes want to make money quick and easy. Inspired by influencers girls want to travel and see the world but they have no means to do that, so they start whoring themselves until they find the way to leave the country. Finding a newbie like that is always a pleasure as they are cheap, inexperienced and grateful for whatever extra you can give them. Then you have the young mothers, girls that get pregnant in their teens and wouldn't get an abortion for religious or moral reasons and need the money to support their child or children.

So yes, I agree the sex trade will not stop. It just changes somehow.

[SlowBlow]

On sex work dying in Colombia: not a chance, not in our lifetimes unless we achieve AGI and there's no need for human input anymore. That's a real possibility but if anything people might just have more sex and not less all over the world.

On prices: you pay what you want. If they start quoting in dollars just leave it. Anytime you get a domicilio it's always going to be more than going to a casa or their private apt. I've had girls on Tinder come over for as little as 160 mil as recently as November in Cartagena. The other I paid 200 and one did not even want to be paid (that was a first for me). 2/3 were Vennies but still. I prefer to wine and dine a little anyway so that's why I use Tinder. However it does seem harder to get quality matches than during the pandemic. Times are just as tough but in different ways. Food prices have skyrocketed but wages have stayed the same. Housing seems to have went up a lot in certain areas as well.

Realistically all I need is 20 min so paying for an hour doesn't even make sense to me. I'm not a dos relaciones type of guy, I'm done after one. So the casas make more sense for me but I also would prefer to be alone in a hotel.

[Mr Enternational]

The vast majority of guys who pay that much are weekend warriors, newbies, first timers in Colombia, who are not on ISG and have very limited, if any, information about going rates and the scene in general. Just go to Gusto, or La Isla, or walk around Parque Lleras and you will see crowds of these mfs.

Me, Sang, and some other guys have been in the game for quite sometime and know the scene well. We know the going rates at different venues and pay accordingly. I don't overpay, I try to pay market rate.

And how did you find out what these "going rates" and "market rates" are? Why can't the "going rate" or "market rate" be considered what people who pay less than you are paying or what the people who pay more than you are paying?

[Sangnyc21]

This is what happens when you have guys like MB1, Sang, and Madd who spend that kind of money just to flaunt their wealth.

Me and you do not monger or play in the same areas. I never flaunt nothing. I dress appropriately for the place I'm going.

You go to centro and Sante Fe for street girls I do not.

I prefer a club a bottle and vetting the girls before I decide if she's worth her asking.

Ones steak will not effect the price of a Big Mac. So I don't ever effect your mongering experience which is why I don't understand why you ever feel the need to speak about anyone without the actual experience.

I have been to centro and Sante Fe. It's not my cup of tea but I only say what I say based on my experiences. You just want to hate. So please don't talk about anything you have 0 clue about. Seriously.

[Gabacho]

The vast majority of guys who pay that much are weekend warriors, newbies, first timers in Colombia, who are not on ISG and have very limited, if any, information about going rates and the scene in general. Just go to Gusto, or La Isla, or walk around Parque Lleras and you will see crowds of these mfs.

Me, Sang, and some other guys have been in the game for quite sometime and know the scene well. We know the going rates at different venues and pay accordingly. I don't overpay, I try to pay market rate. BTW, never I paid even close to 1 million pesos in Colombia. The most I ever paid was 600 k. I don't like pros and there is a set of rules that I follow to avoid them. If they quote USD, if they quote by the hour, if they call me amor / bb and all other crap in the first message, if they look ghetto, of they quote me a number right away in the very first or second message. It is an automatic pass and a huge turnoff. It is me who decides how much to offer, I take the lead. And any semi pro would expect a guy to make a first move.

Fair enough bro, I can respect that.

I always go for the gutter bi*ches in botero and santa fe 40 k to 50 k then offer them 80-100 k to BBFS them quick dump and run the on to the next LOL.

To each his own tho a cada quien su propio gusto.

My bad for lumping you guys all into the "overpay" group when that isn't always the case.

-Gabacho.

[MiamiBoy1]

This is what happens when you have guys like MB1, Sang, and Madd who spend that kind of money just to flaunt their wealth.

The vast majority of guys who pay that much are weekend warriors, newbies, first timers in Colombia, who are not on ISG and have very limited, if any, information about going rates and the scene in general. Just go to Gusto, or La Isla, or walk around Parque Lleras and you will see crowds of these mfs.

Me, Sang, and some other guys have been in the game for quite sometime and know the scene well. We know the going rates at different venues and pay accordingly. I don't overpay, I try to pay market rate. BTW, never I paid even close to 1 million pesos in Colombia. The most I ever paid was 600 k. I don't like pros and there is a set of rules that I follow to avoid them. If they quote USD, if they quote by the hour, if they call me amor / bb and all other crap in the first message, if they look ghetto, of they quote me a number right away in the very first or second message. It is an automatic pass and a huge turnoff. It is me who decides how much to offer, I take the lead. And any semi pro would expect a guy to make a first move.

[FlashShaker]

Can you expand more on why you think the sex trade will be wiped out in Colombia? Colombian girls will never stop having sex for money, are you saying they will leave Colombia and work in other countries? That's been happening for a long time already. Colombia's population is booming and its economy is shit. I don't see the sex trade going anywhere anytime soon.

No its def not my take that the business will die or go away any time soon. It's the prices we pay. No longer looking at a hottie for 120-250 mil pesos in Colombia. Now, they want 'solo dolares'. This one girl today was schooling on how the COP is trash and all girls wants dollars when dealing with gringos. I was like whoa I didn't know you were an economist moonlighting as a call girl lmao.

Federal nightclub, don't think they have a website but here's there Insta https://www.instagram.com/federalrooftop/?hl=en.

Facebook https://www.facebook.com/federalrooftop/.

https://federal-rooftop-1.cluvi.co/f...u-digital/home

Its near Andino mall, around the corner, yes very touristy and surprisingly not a total ripoff.

[JohnJones22]

Yeah, the writing is on the wall, and the stupid attitude is that if every guy just does X, all will be the same has been blown out of the water just seeing what has happened in Cartagena and Medellin. About twenty years ago, Buenos Aires was a great mongering destination and it got shut down. As Sang pointed out, the amount of money some Mexicans have is unreal. How long has California been trying to do high speed rail between SF and LA? Well, the Mexicans are putting the finishing touches on their Mayan Train around Cancun, and it is fucking unreal. Tulum built a brand new airport as well that is super nice. If not for Sang, no one would have even imagined Mexicans with money. Seeking is actually used more in Mexico than the USA.

Bogota has planned better for the sex trade than those other two cities and has not been the eye sore that it was in Cartagena and Medellin. Still as I have learned a lot about the culture and the more educated classes, I can tell you that the way the higher class women are raised much much more differently than I expected. The best schools are religious ones, and I would be shocked if most of the women in them were not virgins.

I thought it would be different as you went up the age scale and so I met one of my gal's family members who is very cute, fashionable, and in her 20's, and I thought for sure she would have had a lot of BFs and dated a lot. Nope. Thing is that most Colombian men are such macho dickheads she does not want that in her life. And you have to admit that part of the problem in Colombia is that many of the most successful men were assholes in the drug trade. After a while, I got why my gal's daughter was attracted to the Asian entertainment. The male-female relations are typically shown in a more wholesome light.

So the guys thinking of holding back the currents of change need a wakeup call. The sex trade is gong to be wiped out in Colombia, and the guys who think that they should hold out for better prices are going to learn just like the men in Argentina did that not only are prices never going down, the availability of women is going to go way down as well.

Can you expand more on why you think the sex trade will be wiped out in Colombia? Colombian girls will never stop having sex for money, are you saying they will leave Colombia and work in other countries? That's been happening for a long time already. Colombia's population is booming and its economy is shit. I don't see the sex trade going anywhere anytime soon.

[Sangnyc21]

I doubt she'd ever gotten 1 M for 1 hour. Some are just bluffing, other have friends who supposedly got that much so they are convinced they can get that much too. Colombians love telling stories about buying cheaper and always getting great deals on anything they do, from restaurants to cars to clothes so girls wouldn't be an exception.

I have gotten Tinder girls for around 250 three hours. Maybe try with a profile in Spanish and a photo that doesn't make it obvious where you are from. Once I asked a very pretty Tinder girl how much she wanted and she said 600 for one hour. After some negotiation we ended up meeting for 250 for three hours and some taxy money. Now she is in Dubai "living the life" and driving porches and showing pictures of 5 star hotels. I wonder what would be her real life like.

Any Colombian girl that gets invited to Dubai never be the same after that.

They go to Dubai and get a minimum of 40 k usd. They also get all top designers bags etc best foods and luxury hotels.

But the price for this is to have sex with a young boy, have group orgies, and each man will never use a condom and each man will come on their faces. Afterwards they will piss on the girls face. Then for round 2 sex COF then shifted on. That is the only way they get paid in full.

This country already has the best looking hookers from all over the world for around 300-400 an hour. If they're flying these girls out then that's the only reason. So she's really not "living it up " LOL.

[Ryck II]

These arabian princes can only f)(so many girls, there plenty of other options out there. Tinder is a lost cause, has been for a while. I've never heard of Federal Club before and a google map search doesn't come up with anything. Where is this place? I'm going to guess somewhere touristy. They all going to overcharge you. Best bet is to learn spanish and ask for prices before ordering. Passport bros going to be what they are. Not going away anytime soon. Especially as I hear this term thrown around more and more. Perhaps, ironically, this forum is probably doing more damage to our hobby than it is helping.

I doubt she'd ever gotten 1 M for 1 hour. Some are just bluffing, other have friends who supposedly got that much so they are convinced they can get that much too. Colombians love telling stories about buying cheaper and always getting great deals on anything they do, from restaurants to cars to clothes so girls wouldn't be an exception.

I have gotten Tinder girls for around 250 three hours. Maybe try with a profile in Spanish and a photo that doesn't make it obvious where you are from. Once I asked a very pretty Tinder girl how much she wanted and she said 600 for one hour. After some negotiation we ended up meeting for 250 for three hours and some taxy money. Now she is in Dubai "living the life" and driving porches and showing pictures of 5 star hotels. I wonder what would be her real life like.

[MiamiBoy1]

The gringo tax is simply that they see you are a gringo and ask for 3 times the normal rate. Its nothing new.

What amazes me is if a gringo is not stupid to pay gringo tax and offers her a normal rate, she still will pass on it. She either is 100% confident someone else will bite, or just plain stupid to make zero instead of a normal rate.

[Kazeu]

The writing is on the wall, the gig is up pretty much sums it for us gringos now. I am in town and yup, things done change (a al Biggie Smalls). Started talking with another chic on Tinder, she's 31, nice pics (lots of face filters) but the body is done up nice. I offered 300 k / HR and she "jajajaja. " She told that's not even enough for her to buy make-up. When I asked her out of curiosity what she wanted, her reply: I am used to men treating me like a queen and spending lots of money. I wouldn't leave my house for less than 1 MM cop for the hour. To be sure, I asked did you mean you want a million pesos an hour, she flat out said yes. Had no words so just said thanks and best wishes.

Sunday, I am at Federal night club, lots of "working" chicas in there. One caught my attention, we started the conversation and after minutes we talking business, she said its 100 dolares / una hora. Mmm! I asked if any of the local guys will give her 100 dolares, she said no "pero you have it". She's on Tinder too, showed me her profile asking 100-150 USD / HR. Once again, I declined and ultimately left.

After leaving Federal club, walking down the street seeing what else is open, I made the mistake of following a street hustler into a tittie bar. It was curiosity more than anything else. Walked in, place is totally empty, not even a single customer but they had lots and lots of chicas, I estimated close to 30 of all types. Soon as I walked in, I got swarmed and could hardly breathe due to heavy smell of cigarettes, hot and completely surrounded. This one pretty Vennie caught my eye, asked the others to leave and was working to get her number. She kept asking to buy her exit fee which was 180 k pesos, no thanks. The she asked for a drink, told her she can have a Corona, I didn't drink. Few minutes later, getting ready to leave. Mofo's charged me 70 k for 1 Corona, wow fawk! I got got. Well, anyway, lesson learned. Time to hit the casas and prepagos.

And a small update, its not just Passport Bros fawking the game, these girls are also looking at other chicas on IG getting tripped around the world, Dubai, Italy, Greece. By sponsors and def feel like getting it too.

These arabian princes can only f)(so many girls, there plenty of other options out there. Tinder is a lost cause, has been for a while. I've never heard of Federal Club before and a google map search doesn't come up with anything. Where is this place? I'm going to guess somewhere touristy. They all going to overcharge you. Best bet is to learn spanish and ask for prices before ordering. Passport bros going to be what they are. Not going away anytime soon. Especially as I hear this term thrown around more and more. Perhaps, ironically, this forum is probably doing more damage to our hobby than it is helping.

[Gabacho]

The writing is on the wall, the gig is up pretty much sums it for us gringos now. I am in town and yup, things done change (a al Biggie Smalls). Started talking with another chic on Tinder, she's 31, nice pics (lots of face filters) but the body is done up nice. I offered 300 k / HR and she "jajajaja. " She told that's not even enough for her to buy make-up. When I asked her out of curiosity what she wanted, her reply: I am used to men treating me like a queen and spending lots of money. I wouldn't leave my house for less than 1 MM cop for the hour. To be sure, I asked did you mean you want a million pesos an hour, she flat out said yes. Had no words so just said thanks and best wishes.

Sunday, I am at Federal night club, lots of "working" chicas in there. One caught my attention, we started the conversation and after minutes we talking business, she said its 100 dolares / una hora. Mmm! I asked if any of the local guys will give her 100 dolares, she said no "pero you have it". She's on Tinder too, showed me her profile asking 100-150 USD / HR. Once again, I declined and ultimately left.

After leaving Federal club, walking down the street seeing what else is open, I made the mistake of following a street hustler into a tittie bar. It was curiosity more than anything else. Walked in, place is totally empty, not even a single customer but they had lots and lots of chicas, I estimated close to 30 of all types. Soon as I walked in, I got swarmed and could hardly breathe due to heavy smell of cigarettes, hot and completely surrounded. This one pretty Vennie caught my eye, asked the others to leave and was working to get her number. She kept asking to buy her exit fee which was 180 k pesos, no thanks. The she asked for a drink, told her she can have a Corona, I didn't drink. Few minutes later, getting ready to leave. Mofo's charged me 70 k for 1 Corona, wow fawk! I got got. Well, anyway, lesson learned. Time to hit the casas and prepagos.

And a small update, its not just Passport Bros fawking the game, these girls are also looking at other chicas on IG getting tripped around the world, Dubai, Italy, Greece. By sponsors and def feel like getting it too.

This is what happens when you have guys like MB1, Sang, and Madd who spend that kind of money just to flaunt their wealth.