Bogota Reports

[Mr Enternational]

I also had one who started right out when first sitting on my lap saying she didn't like me. That was of course shit going forward.

I was not there. But she was sitting on your lap. So I don't think a hooker would sit on a customer's lap and be serious telling them that they did not like them.

You know how many non-pro chicks have said they did not like me? My answer is you are not supposed to like me. But then they can't get enough of me. Chicks say that I am arrogant or act arrogant and for some reason that attracts them. I am not, but I just talk big shit to them when every other guy they know is busy kissing their ass, buying candy while I am buying condoms.

Chick in Bogota keeps telling me every day that she does not want to see or talk to me ever again. I say okay. The next day she is hitting me up asking how my day was. I already told the broad she was a nutcase, but she can't help herself. So next week I will be right back in her mouth and pussy.

[Stinky Squid]

S
I would have posted the same thing as you did a year ago. To recap, you are into the three phases of relationships: working girls, working girls where there is affection (sugar baby like), and civilians.

I had it out with Mr. E thinking he did not get it. I met a woman off seeking, and she was a 10 and a 10 in bed to boot. We did not talk all that much but when we were done, I slipped 300 k in her purse. Mr. E called me out on that, pretty much said I was a dumb ass for doing so. I thought about it and asked myself why, and I really did not like the answer. At first, it was habit, second it was to be polite, and the third, and the one I really hated, was that I felt I was not worthy of this woman. That is how badly my ego had bruised by women in the American sex prison.

It took me 4 weeks to see this woman again. In fact, I kind of went to Colombia to see her again. I fucked the shit out of her again and this time paid her nothing. I planned a trip with her and went to Mexico with her. On our last day in Mexico, she was in tears thinking she would not see me again, and we did see each other again in fact have several times.

I think I might already have congratulated you, or I do it now. You go be with her. I think I have already said that this might last 2, 4, 7 years but it's worth it. I think also, that now you are out of scope for this site, at least for the time being.

I have been absent from here too for the duration of relationships. And then came back when it got bad. I had 7 years of a 10, and now she annoys me to no end, because she is just so unable to understand me and constantly offended by me, makes shit up, and I am done being her bad guy. Fuck it. No 10 is worth that. It's an experience. So now I am back, but I never was a good monger. I have, in fact, described myself as an "LTR addict" and I'm going to work on that this year.

You say a girl asking money to be with us is insulting. I was going to say good for you that your #10 didn't find it insulting that you slipped the 300 kCOP into her purse. But you are certainly right that mongering P4P has something insulting and demeaning for us men. Almost always. Especially these starfish experiences are horrible in my book. Now, there is where the difference comes in. A girl is in the business, and it is clear she is, and the 400 kCOP per night is actually the semi-pro rate as I have now found out. The full pros sometimes ask for a lot more 800 kCOP or so. Although the full pros do not provide better service, or so I doubt. The semis are like open to get emotional by themselves, if they like you somewhat they become sweet. And that's what I like. I once had one of those from the agency in Rio. It was nice, she looked at me right off the bat and decided she liked me. I also had one who started right out when first sitting on my lap saying she didn't like me. That was of course shit going forward.

I am trying to train myself to depend less on that. To totally do a different attitude when they don't like me and don't get sweet. To just give a fuck in that case and pull through anyway and enjoy that aspect of it.

Anyway, enjoy your girlfriend and consider keeping her and don't fuck around unnecessarily. Just keep an eye on whether she actually sees you as you. Good luck.

[Gringo Trooper]

I met a woman off seeking, and she was a 10 and a 10 in bed to boot.

I'm happy to hear you found someone special. What does a 10 look like to you (feel free to post a picture with her face blurred out or a celebrity that she resembles)?

As this is subjective, I consider Penelope Cruz, Salma Hayek, Jessica Alba (in their primes) to be 9's.

I'd say maybe Adrianna Lima, and a couple other Brazilian Victoria's Secret models (in their primes) to be 10's.

If she is a 10 in your eyes, at the end of the day, that's all that matters.

I'm just curious to know what kind of score she is.

[Matthew44]

If your in Zona T try Andres Carne in DC, It's not as much fun as the original in Chia because of the multi level set up but the steak is good served on a sizzling metal platter and after dinner you can dance to some good music.

If price is not an issue I would recommend la Estancia Chica, a 5 min walk from Parque 93. My favorite steakhouse in Bogota by far, it's a traditional Argentinian steakhouse that serves imported US and Argentinian beef. The churrasco, mollejas and ojo de bife are a clear step above the regular Colombian beef served at, Andres Carne de Res, Carne e Vino, Hermes Carne de Res etc.

Second the estancia chica recommendation. My go to before I went vegan.

Thanks all for the suggestions. Andres Carne seems well suited for a casual lunch date, whereas La Estancia Chica for a fancier evening. I will make sure to hit them both.

But I would more likely give up women before I gave up meat. (I mean not really, but that was my initial reaction. LOL.)

[Gimmedub]

Second the estancia chica recommendation. My go to before I went vegan.

If price is not an issue I would recommend la Estancia Chica, a 5 min walk from Parque 93. My favorite steakhouse in Bogota by far, it's a traditional Argentinian steakhouse that serves imported US and Argentinian beef. The churrasco, mollejas and ojo de bife are a clear step above the regular Colombian beef served at, Andres Carne de Res, Carne e Vino, Hermes Carne de Res etc.

[Jandara 69]

First time posting, although I have been lurking for the past year or so, as I have planned my trip to Bogota over the past few months. So appreciative to the wealth of information here, I never would have pulled the trigger on my trip without it. I went ahead and made plans to visit for July 7-15, and so I was pretty thrilled when I saw that almost all of the daily restrictions were lifted on June 8.

As far as I can tell, there are no restrictions on purchasing alcohol any longer, and restaurants and bars are business as usual, subject to a Maximum Capacity (restriction, which is to be posted at the entrance. In fact, the only places that I can see that are closed are discos (a win for me) and stadiums. Other than needing to wear a mask everywhere, I really can't see that there are any restrictions in Bogota.

Are they still doing cedula checks? Or can anyone pretty much travel anywhere, just as long as they are wearing a mask? (They don't mention anything about cedula checks, only that the curfew has been lifted.).

Also, any suggestions for a good place to take a date for dinner? My general plan was to meet with girls from Seeking (SA), and I was looking for places within walking distance from my rental. I am staying in an AirBnB right between Parque 93 and Zona T, so I am sure that there are a ton of great places. I found a listing for OSK Peru, which looks great, but struck out when trying to find a traditional steakhouse. Any suggestions?

Thanks for the help.

If price is not an issue I would recommend la Estancia Chica, a 5 min walk from Parque 93. My favorite steakhouse in Bogota by far, it's a traditional Argentinian steakhouse that serves imported US and Argentinian beef. The churrasco, mollejas and ojo de bife are a clear step above the regular Colombian beef served at, Andres Carne de Res, Carne e Vino, Hermes Carne de Res etc.

[LatinaLover#1]

First time posting, although I have been lurking for the past year or so, as I have planned my trip to Bogota over the past few months. So appreciative to the wealth of information here, I never would have pulled the trigger on my trip without it. I went ahead and made plans to visit for July 7-15, and so I was pretty thrilled when I saw that almost all of the daily restrictions were lifted on June 8.

As far as I can tell, there are no restrictions on purchasing alcohol any longer, and restaurants and bars are business as usual, subject to a Maximum Capacity (restriction, which is to be posted at the entrance. In fact, the only places that I can see that are closed are discos (a win for me) and stadiums. Other than needing to wear a mask everywhere, I really can't see that there are any restrictions in Bogota.

Are they still doing cedula checks? Or can anyone pretty much travel anywhere, just as long as they are wearing a mask? (They don't mention anything about cedula checks, only that the curfew has been lifted.).

Also, any suggestions for a good place to take a date for dinner? My general plan was to meet with girls from Seeking (SA), and I was looking for places within walking distance from my rental. I am staying in an AirBnB right between Parque 93 and Zona T, so I am sure that there are a ton of great places. I found a listing for OSK Peru, which looks great, but struck out when trying to find a traditional steakhouse. Any suggestions?

Thanks for the help.

If your in Zona T try Andres Carne in DC, It's not as much fun as the original in Chia because of the multi level set up but the steak is good served on a sizzling metal platter and after dinner you can dance to some good music.

https://www.andrescarnederes.com/andres-dc

[Kib123]

If you read my post a little closer you would see that I said I got 3600 pesos for one dollar. That means I got 36000 pesos for the ten dollar bill.

To answer another guy who said it is crazy to use the money changers at the airport well I agree. In my case the line for the ATM at the airport was long. So I knew the taxi would cost me 25 K. To me my time is important.

They must have put their house in order maybe due to competition, because the last time I changed money at the airport about 3 years ago I literally got screwed. A good 20% below market.

[Kib123]

I understand it may not be your thing, but it's mine. As long as I have (had) my GF why would I even want a hooker. And when I do a hooker, why would I not want to enjoy the encounter? I'm not quite sure if that's posturing on your part, but I'd say each his own. I like my sexual activity to be an overall good experience. Dead fish eyes closed do it quickly is not and probably never will be my thing.

You have earned my full respect sir, very eloquent rebuttal to all our friendly 'attacks'. Happy mongering!

[Elvis 2008]

I understand it may not be your thing, but it's mine. As long as I have (had) my GF why would I even want a hooker. And when I do a hooker, why would I not want to enjoy the encounter? I'm not quite sure if that's posturing on your part, but I'd say each his own. I like my sexual activity to be an overall good experience. Dead fish eyes closed do it quickly is not and probably never will be my thing.

I know they are not engaging like this because of "true love". But there is still a lot of fun in playing love, even if fake. It's just fun to play with emotions. And I think there is a provable correlation between girls who engage like this to tend to give you a better experience from those who are just professional fast-sex cashiers.

SS,

I would have posted the same thing as you did a year ago. To recap, you are into the three phases of relationships: working girls, working girls where there is affection (sugar baby like), and civilians.

I had it out with Mr. E thinking he did not get it. I met a woman off seeking, and she was a 10 and a 10 in bed to boot. We did not talk all that much but when we were done, I slipped 300 k in her purse. Mr. E called me out on that, pretty much said I was a dumb ass for doing so. I thought about it and asked myself why, and I really did not like the answer. At first, it was habit, second it was to be polite, and the third, and the one I really hated, was that I felt I was not worthy of this woman. That is how badly my ego had bruised by women in the American sex prison.

It took me 4 weeks to see this woman again. In fact, I kind of went to Colombia to see her again. I fucked the shit out of her again and this time paid her nothing. I planned a trip with her and went to Mexico with her. On our last day in Mexico, she was in tears thinking she would not see me again, and we did see each other again in fact have several times.

I told my friends about her and they all could not believe what I was telling them. They all were saying you have to keep this woman.

I thought being loyal to one woman was a condition that I could never meet again. I liked sex too much, but it really was not that. I wanted to be satisfied, and I thought the only way I would be was with multiple women. But now every woman after the one I am with now would be a disappointment. I am not just satisfied after being with this woman. I am depleted. Usually when there is one of you and many of another group you are in the wrong, but I was not polyamorous because of me but because of these other women. With a few exceptions, I was always left wanting more or different.

Look, there are all kinds of definitions for what a 10 is. I get that. With this one, men honk their horns, turn around and stare at her ass when she is with me. When I went to a disco and they do filming of the hottest women there on screen, I thought she would be the first one they put on a screen; she was second. Think about that for a minute. I am at a disco in Cancun at Spring Break, and she is the hottest one there. There was no one there that was a trade up. We went to a busy park with thousands of people in Bogota, and I look around and again, there were none better.

Thing is she is with me for money right? The long game? If you saw us together, it would take you a second to see that is not the case. Every second she can, she is hanging on me, kissing me, stroking me. It is the easiest thing in the world to see if a woman is interested in a guy or his money in real life.

Mr. E has said there are two kinds of women, working girls you pay for sex and women you do not. That third category, the one you are enjoying where you imagine the woman likes you, is not real. Dude, if the woman really likes you, why is she taking money from you? She is insulting you. She is saying the only way you are worthy of her pussy is with money.

It is not like I have not spent money to be with my gal. I have with regards to travel, time, hotels, ETC, but here is the thing. She has spent her time to be with me too and at this point, I do not care how much it costs I am going to be with her, but both of would be aghast right now at the notion I am paying for sex.

So once you get that a woman setting a price for pussy is insulting you, then you negotiate down as harshly as you possible can and if you do not like the price, you walk like anything else. I have told guys time and again to not set prices with seeking. Yes, I know you get more responses, but you also get a ton more working girls.

There have been several times in Colombia and a few in Mexico that women wanted to see me and not need to be paid. Funny thing is those women were much, much better lovers than the ones who did get expect to get paid.

The whole notion that you do not want to insult the woman you are with over 400,000 COP or $400 US I get. You do not want to insult her, but she is insulting you by giving you a price. I know you would argue with the notion that you are paying her to like you, but that is what we have been accustomed to in the USA sex prison, and that is what you are doing. You would even say the sex is better in a sugar baby relationship than a pure hooker one, and it is, but why not go for even better sex without being insulted?

There are amazing women in Colombia who want to date you for you and fuck you for you. So why waste your time with these fake relationships?

[Matthew44]

On the same street, right across from Osaka is De luca's trendy, decent Italian restaurant.

I've added that one to my list as well. Thanks!

[LatinaLover#1]

At GreenBud, thanks for the suggestion. That place looks perfect!

I also appreciate the tip about checking other restaurants on that street. Primi looks to be an excellent Italian restaurant, right down the street. There's a Four Seasons and a Sofitel on the other side of the street, but their restaurants look overpriced for the quality. I'll do some more hunting, but now I've got three very decent restaurants that I can visit within walking distance. Much appreciated!

On the same street, right across from Osaka is De luca's trendy, decent Italian restaurant.

[Matthew44]

La Brasserie on Carrera 13 between Calle 85 & 86a. There are also a few other upscale restaurants on that street. OSK Peru is on that street.

At GreenBud, thanks for the suggestion. That place looks perfect!

I also appreciate the tip about checking other restaurants on that street. Primi looks to be an excellent Italian restaurant, right down the street. There's a Four Seasons and a Sofitel on the other side of the street, but their restaurants look overpriced for the quality. I'll do some more hunting, but now I've got three very decent restaurants that I can visit within walking distance. Much appreciated!

[JjBee62]

If you read my post a little closer you would see that I said I got 3600 pesos for one dollar. That means I got 36000 pesos for the ten dollar bill.

To answer another guy who said it is crazy to use the money changers at the airport well I agree. In my case the line for the ATM at the airport was long. So I knew the taxi would cost me 25 K. To me my time is important.

Well this is timely. Just flew into BOG Wednesday night. Happened to glance at the currency exchange rates. One place was giving 3620 and the other had 3630 per dollar. I believe the actual rate at the time was 3670. Usually the airport exchange rates suck, but that's not bad at all, especially if you're already at the airport and don't want to wait for the ATM.

[John Gault]

But how much did you actually get for your $10? The teaser rates posted are before commission and fees that reduce the 3,600 to 3,000 or very likely less.

Also not sure what ATM you used, because I got 3,629 (net) on same day at the red ATM (I think Scotiabank) by the luggage claim area, no fees.

If you read my post a little closer you would see that I said I got 3600 pesos for one dollar. That means I got 36000 pesos for the ten dollar bill.

To answer another guy who said it is crazy to use the money changers at the airport well I agree. In my case the line for the ATM at the airport was long. So I knew the taxi would cost me 25 K. To me my time is important.