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06-21-21 16:59 #9911
Posts: 706Restaurante La Estancia Chica
Originally Posted by Jandara69 [View Original Post]
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06-21-21 16:39 #9910
Posts: 425Want to apply lessons from my last trip to Bogota
I've got a weeks vacation coming up and decided to go back to Bogota. I was considering Cartegena but between the girls being fewer, more expensive and the relentless touts bothering you I decided against it. It was a tough decision because I would have liked to have been near an ocean this time.
I'd like the boards thoughts on a few things.
1. I really enjoyed Mezzanine and will go again. What other similiar places are nearby that are open? I prefer to stay in Chapinero area as I liked it. Anyone recommend a hotel in this area?
2. Santa Fe just doesn't do it for me. The knocks after five minutes are just too annoying. However I love the seediness of it. Any alternatives to Santa Fe?
3. Colombian Cupid and Seeking. Is it worth it if I want to meet non pros? I've been very interested in a Black Colombia girl to sample.
4. What else is their to do? Last time I was there I went to Mezzanine three times in a day. But there appears nothing else to do in Bogota. I did the tourist sites the first time but there is no ocean or cool mountains or anything. Would you suggest flying to Cartegena for a day or two?
Bottom line is I am looking to have an even better experience this time. And I will not be using my credit card. I'm not having my info stolen again.
Showdown.
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06-21-21 06:25 #9909
Posts: 3234Originally Posted by Matthew44 [View Original Post]
It is ironic Matthew that Latinlover mentioned Andres. I was thinking that literally was the only above average meal I had in Bogota. It is really funny because Bogota has so many more better looking women than Mexico City or Lima, and those two cities blow Bogota out of the water food wise. I am like kind of laughing that maybe Bogota not being a culinary mecca is a good thing because it keeps the women from being fat which is much more of a problem in those other two cities. LOL.
One of the reasons maybe I feel that way about the food though is because I usually stay at the Bogota Marriott near the airport and the food is so fucking good there other restaurants are a disappointment. The breakfast is to die for, and the steak restaurant there is great: https://www.theplacetobecolombia.com...obster-bogota/.
I get why you are staying in the Parque 93 area. I stayed at Parque 97 suites the second time I was in Bogota, but I should probably do a seeking.com guide for you.
First off, Matthew, you do not have to wine and dine the women in Colombia. There is no one date rule like in the USA where you do meet and greet and then the second date you have sex. You meet the women and fuck them that day. They will be DTF or not.
Do not even do dinner. Maybe for a second date, it is okay. Coffee is fine or I would just meet the women at the hotel diner. Parque 97 was a fine place to meet women, dine and fuck, but the room itself got cold at night. I do not think they even had heat.
Thing about where you staying is that it has the reputation of being the nicer area, but the traffic is kind of a pain and you are far from the airport.
I have done most if not all the tourist stuff in Bogota, and you can probably do it in a day or two days max. There really is not a can't miss thing in Bogota outside of the women so you can just travel to the touristy stuff if you want.
If you want to do the high end clubs and marriage parlors, you are in the right place. For seeking chicks, I am not so sure. Thing is that you are kind of far from Santa Fe and honestly you can fuck just as hot and as good in the seedy joints there as you can anywhere else, and Santa Fe is active even in the afternoon. My favorite gal there works 12 to 5 PM. Unlike the Zona T region, Santa Fe is a dump but the women look as good and perform just as well as the higher end places. I would use SF as a backup if a seeking date does not pan out.
First time I went to Bogota I was at Hotel Ibis, and the rooms are Motel 6 like which is fine for bringing back the SF working girls, but the women I met from seeking were not all down to fuck when I was there. The women have their doubts about you then.
My favorite hotel in Bogota is the Bogota Marriott near the airport. Thing is you look up the price and it is $162 a night, and you are probably at $50 or so a night at your airbnb. That is $100 a day you could spend on women.
But if you go to Marriott.com and you click on the deals and packages portion and pay in advance, the rate goes to around $100. But what you have is a fantastic breakfast, no steep transportation costs to the airport, a great gym, and a fabulous indoor pool with a hot tub. The TV allows you to hook to a Netflix account where you can use Spanish subtitles and watch TV together and the climate control is great. Also you are 15,20 minutes from Santa Fe, and there is a Juan Valdez within walking distance if you want to meet your prospect there. I would typically meet women at the hotel and walk to JV.
Thing is no one mentioned price when I was at the Marriott. They knew because I stayed there money was not going to be an issue for me, and it is kind of intimidating for Colombian women, a lot of whom live in unflattering quarters. So unlike the Ibis where the women's message was like "I need to get paid in advance if you are staying at a hotel like this" or even Parque 97 where the women were more like "I guess if you can afford to stay here, you are okay", the message at Bogota Marriott was, "Okay, I am going to be really lucky to fuck this guy. ".
I am sure there are other hotels that can make that statement too, but I do not know any there that are $100 a night. I registered for 2 people and had no problem brining in women. The hotels would check ID but that was it. The Marriott is not a place to bring back a Santa Fe working girl, but it is great for a seeking girl, and I really recommend you stay there for your first trip. The added expense is well worth it.
With the breakfast, gym, pool, hot tub, and Netflix on the TV, I had no problem having a great time with my women all while keeping them well fed and entertained, and I really recommend there if you are hunting women from seeking.
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06-21-21 06:06 #9908
Posts: 15926Originally Posted by StinkySquid [View Original Post]
You know how many non-pro chicks have said they did not like me? My answer is you are not supposed to like me. But then they can't get enough of me. Chicks say that I am arrogant or act arrogant and for some reason that attracts them. I am not, but I just talk big shit to them when every other guy they know is busy kissing their ass, buying candy while I am buying condoms.
Chick in Bogota keeps telling me every day that she does not want to see or talk to me ever again. I say okay. The next day she is hitting me up asking how my day was. I already told the broad she was a nutcase, but she can't help herself. So next week I will be right back in her mouth and pussy.
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06-21-21 05:03 #9907
Posts: 314Elvis, I get you, but that's now out of scope
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
I have been absent from here too for the duration of relationships. And then came back when it got bad. I had 7 years of a 10, and now she annoys me to no end, because she is just so unable to understand me and constantly offended by me, makes shit up, and I am done being her bad guy. Fuck it. No 10 is worth that. It's an experience. So now I am back, but I never was a good monger. I have, in fact, described myself as an "LTR addict" and I'm going to work on that this year.
You say a girl asking money to be with us is insulting. I was going to say good for you that your #10 didn't find it insulting that you slipped the 300 kCOP into her purse. But you are certainly right that mongering P4P has something insulting and demeaning for us men. Almost always. Especially these starfish experiences are horrible in my book. Now, there is where the difference comes in. A girl is in the business, and it is clear she is, and the 400 kCOP per night is actually the semi-pro rate as I have now found out. The full pros sometimes ask for a lot more 800 kCOP or so. Although the full pros do not provide better service, or so I doubt. The semis are like open to get emotional by themselves, if they like you somewhat they become sweet. And that's what I like. I once had one of those from the agency in Rio. It was nice, she looked at me right off the bat and decided she liked me. I also had one who started right out when first sitting on my lap saying she didn't like me. That was of course shit going forward.
I am trying to train myself to depend less on that. To totally do a different attitude when they don't like me and don't get sweet. To just give a fuck in that case and pull through anyway and enjoy that aspect of it.
Anyway, enjoy your girlfriend and consider keeping her and don't fuck around unnecessarily. Just keep an eye on whether she actually sees you as you. Good luck.
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06-21-21 04:10 #9906
Posts: 112Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
As this is subjective, I consider Penelope Cruz, Salma Hayek, Jessica Alba (in their primes) to be 9's.
I'd say maybe Adrianna Lima, and a couple other Brazilian Victoria's Secret models (in their primes) to be 10's.
If she is a 10 in your eyes, at the end of the day, that's all that matters.
I'm just curious to know what kind of score she is.
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06-20-21 22:57 #9905
Posts: 6Thanks for the Steaks
Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1 [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Jandara69 [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Gimmedub [View Original Post]
But I would more likely give up women before I gave up meat. (I mean not really, but that was my initial reaction. LOL.)
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06-20-21 18:06 #9904
Posts: 109Second the estancia chica recommendation. My go to before I went vegan.
Originally Posted by Jandara69 [View Original Post]
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06-20-21 14:12 #9903
Posts: 6La Estancia Chica
Originally Posted by Matthew44 [View Original Post]
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06-20-21 10:44 #9902
Posts: 706Steak
Originally Posted by Matthew44 [View Original Post]
https://www.andrescarnederes.com/andres-dc
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06-20-21 02:18 #9901
Posts: 408Originally Posted by JohnGault [View Original Post]
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06-20-21 02:15 #9900
Posts: 408RE: Gourmet vs. Fast Food
Originally Posted by StinkySquid [View Original Post]
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06-20-21 01:10 #9899
Posts: 3234Originally Posted by StinkySquid [View Original Post]
I would have posted the same thing as you did a year ago. To recap, you are into the three phases of relationships: working girls, working girls where there is affection (sugar baby like), and civilians.
I had it out with Mr. E thinking he did not get it. I met a woman off seeking, and she was a 10 and a 10 in bed to boot. We did not talk all that much but when we were done, I slipped 300 k in her purse. Mr. E called me out on that, pretty much said I was a dumb ass for doing so. I thought about it and asked myself why, and I really did not like the answer. At first, it was habit, second it was to be polite, and the third, and the one I really hated, was that I felt I was not worthy of this woman. That is how badly my ego had bruised by women in the American sex prison.
It took me 4 weeks to see this woman again. In fact, I kind of went to Colombia to see her again. I fucked the shit out of her again and this time paid her nothing. I planned a trip with her and went to Mexico with her. On our last day in Mexico, she was in tears thinking she would not see me again, and we did see each other again in fact have several times.
I told my friends about her and they all could not believe what I was telling them. They all were saying you have to keep this woman.
I thought being loyal to one woman was a condition that I could never meet again. I liked sex too much, but it really was not that. I wanted to be satisfied, and I thought the only way I would be was with multiple women. But now every woman after the one I am with now would be a disappointment. I am not just satisfied after being with this woman. I am depleted. Usually when there is one of you and many of another group you are in the wrong, but I was not polyamorous because of me but because of these other women. With a few exceptions, I was always left wanting more or different.
Look, there are all kinds of definitions for what a 10 is. I get that. With this one, men honk their horns, turn around and stare at her ass when she is with me. When I went to a disco and they do filming of the hottest women there on screen, I thought she would be the first one they put on a screen; she was second. Think about that for a minute. I am at a disco in Cancun at Spring Break, and she is the hottest one there. There was no one there that was a trade up. We went to a busy park with thousands of people in Bogota, and I look around and again, there were none better.
Thing is she is with me for money right? The long game? If you saw us together, it would take you a second to see that is not the case. Every second she can, she is hanging on me, kissing me, stroking me. It is the easiest thing in the world to see if a woman is interested in a guy or his money in real life.
Mr. E has said there are two kinds of women, working girls you pay for sex and women you do not. That third category, the one you are enjoying where you imagine the woman likes you, is not real. Dude, if the woman really likes you, why is she taking money from you? She is insulting you. She is saying the only way you are worthy of her pussy is with money.
It is not like I have not spent money to be with my gal. I have with regards to travel, time, hotels, ETC, but here is the thing. She has spent her time to be with me too and at this point, I do not care how much it costs I am going to be with her, but both of would be aghast right now at the notion I am paying for sex.
So once you get that a woman setting a price for pussy is insulting you, then you negotiate down as harshly as you possible can and if you do not like the price, you walk like anything else. I have told guys time and again to not set prices with seeking. Yes, I know you get more responses, but you also get a ton more working girls.
There have been several times in Colombia and a few in Mexico that women wanted to see me and not need to be paid. Funny thing is those women were much, much better lovers than the ones who did get expect to get paid.
The whole notion that you do not want to insult the woman you are with over 400,000 COP or $400 US I get. You do not want to insult her, but she is insulting you by giving you a price. I know you would argue with the notion that you are paying her to like you, but that is what we have been accustomed to in the USA sex prison, and that is what you are doing. You would even say the sex is better in a sugar baby relationship than a pure hooker one, and it is, but why not go for even better sex without being insulted?
There are amazing women in Colombia who want to date you for you and fuck you for you. So why waste your time with these fake relationships?
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06-19-21 22:14 #9898
Posts: 6Thanks.
Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1 [View Original Post]
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06-19-21 10:59 #9897
Posts: 706Also
Originally Posted by Matthew44 [View Original Post]