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  1. #8982
    Quote Originally Posted by YyzTravel  [View Original Post]
    OK guys, been home for a few days after a 7 days trip. Here is a full trip report for everyone. The flight to Bogota was a breeze, I was able to snag Delta1 seating for sub $500 so it was a no-brainer and an easy flight. Customs was a breeze, just have your check-mig filled out and I was through customs and the luggage pick up spot in under 10 minutes. There are many ATMs in the luggage pick up area, choose which one works for you, and get some cash there if needed. Uber is not allowed at the airport to pick up directly, if you want to use them you have to walk offsite which I highly do not recommend. It was 35 mil for me to take a black car to my hotel in ZonaT. Before a lot of you haters get started on "YYZ overpays for shit". I frankly don't care so save it. The hotel was nice, got a suite there and paid sub-$100 a night which included a full breakfast daily with English-speaking employees. The hotel was guest friendly, but I just made sure not to bring back girls who were clearly prepagos. Anyone I was with I would ask them to dress like a lady and I had zero problems.

    I did a mix of clubs, Bumble (which is great for non-pros if you are least semi-attractive), and visited Santa Fe once. I did the Woodman tour and would highly recommend it. Santa Fe is a spot I would never go to down by myself, and it's not that I was afraid there, it's just dirty and disgusting. I did get a nice BBBJ from a young street girl there, but it was so bad I stopped partway through and just left to continue the tour. Woodman knew the area, showed me all the clubs, and helped get snacks, etc. Some guys are saying that "why do you need to pay Woodman?" - It's because it's his job. And he was worth every penny of the cost. He showed me the clubs, helped me negotiate show costs, and made sure the meseros didn't rip me off for a first-time visitor there. In short, we spend about 4 hours together and it was really nice to see, but outside of just partying a bit that was all for the night. Woodman is cool as hell, and just chilling with the guy was fun in itself. Thank you, Woodman!

    I visited numerous casas, massage parlors and, 3 main clubs up near ZonaT. Olympia, CasaNova, and Lido. Some nights were amazing with 40+ girl lineups, other nights when some board members came it was not so great, and apologies guys but it really was better the nights before. Hung out with MSanchez a few times, and that guy is cool as hell. When you enter the club all the girls line up and stand there until you pick one. I'm picky, and even if I know who I want I will make them wait. Both nights I ended up with girls who I ended up bringing back to my hotel, and then am still talking to even as of this morning on Whats App. Be warned, each time you order a drink you should pay in advance. Both of my girls confirmed that the meseros will intentionally take the menu and then try to rip you off for the check. Keep the menu, and each time you order a drink or bottle you pay upfront in cash. Otherwise, at the end they want to tack some crazy "service" fee on there. Unfortunately, both Msanchez and I got ripped off at Casanova for probably 100 Mil each, but my second girl actually ended up so upset about this she gave it back to me out of her pocket when I told her. (I didn't take it, but she just didn't like me getting mistreated). That's the same night she told me "leche en todo papicito", which for my fairly decent Spanish means "cum inside me daddy". Almost blew a hole in that girls back I came so hard with the grinding thing she did.

    I'm not sure what most of you guys want, but for me, it's not always about fucking, but it's the thrill of the hunt. Columbian girls are passionate if you find the right ones, and I will be damned if not one but both of the girls I was talking to on the second night ended up turning down money from me one of them going to BBFS and her telling me she developed feelings for me. My goal for these trips is to enjoy my time, spend 50% of the time with just quick girls in casas or parlors, and the other 50% my aim is to vet and find a few long term girls to visit in the future, or even import to me on trips. I like dating and girlfriends. Cost-wise, the average massage parlor was 150-200 k for an hour, and most club girls wanted 300 k-500 k for TLN. I spent about 800 - 1.2 M daily between high-end food, dating, shopping, and sex sometimes 3-4 times daily. Again, for those you who say "you overpaid". I don't care. I'm not rich , but I don't do 2-3 month trips like you guys, so my time there is more valuable than getting the best deal every possible time. Also, ProTip here: Lecethin. This stuff really increases cum volume. Grab a bottle on Amazon and bring it with you. I took about 8-12 a day (they are giant pills) - but really do increase the volume which makes having sex 3-4 daily for a week possible and far more enjoyable. Also, don't go with that off-market Viagra or Cialis. GoodRX you can get 30 100 MG Viagra a month for about $24 USD. I break them in 1/2 and can literally fuck, cum, and fuck again while staying hard with those things. I don't need them, I just want them so I can turn a session into a solid 30+ min of intercourse with these.

    Leaving Bogota was easy. Called an Uber and was there in about 30 minutes around 7:00 am. The airport was fast customs wise, just the check-mig form again, the usual customs declarations when checking my bag and then to the gate. I got there too early, so I suggest 2 hours before a flight, not 3. Not a lot is open there early, so did a ton of just sitting at the gate before boarding the plane. I was back asleep before we even took off and just woke up for the meal service and then back to bed after a super long night the night before. I'm heading back to MDE in January for 15 days, and sure enough one of the Bogota girls I'm now going to bring with me as a wing-woman. Will buy her ticket and food, but otherwise not paying her otherwise. Before the player haters come out and tell me I'm bringing sand to the beach, she knows the drill and is going to help me crush a lot of pussy with hopefully some really passionate threesomes as she is into girls too and really wants me as her Papi Chulo which I would be totally fine with. If anyone is in MDE from 1/19 - 1/30 let me know. Let's get out and first bottle in the club is on me.
    Great report. Sounds like you had a blast. 500 k for tln at those high end places is a good price. The takeout fee is pretty high at Lidos the last time I was there. Is it still around 150 mil?

  2. #8981
    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]
    Here are the photos from my December 2020 trip.
    Girl on the top right think her name in Natasha gives an amazing deep throat blowjob BBBJ available as well. Seen her twice this trip usually hangs out at the blue and white spot where you take your first left in Santa Fe going give her a try.

  3. #8980
    Quote Originally Posted by YyzTravel  [View Original Post]
    ....I did get a nice BBBJ from a young street girl there, but it was so bad I stopped partway through and just left to continue the tour....
    Good report but I didn't quite get this part. You said the BBBJ was nice so why did you stop part way?

  4. #8979

    Return ticket.

    Quote Originally Posted by TiaVoyage25  [View Original Post]
    Gentlemen,

    .

    3.) Will I need to show a return trip ticket when I go through customs / immigrations upon arrival? Research tells me that this is sometimes the case, but looking to get the latest from recent travelers. I haven't had to show a return trip before but you never know with the current COVID situation.



    TIA.
    The return ticket is only needed when you leave to start your trip.

  5. #8978
    Quote Originally Posted by YyzTravel  [View Original Post]
    OK guys, been home for a few days after a 7 days trip. Here is a full trip report for everyone. The flight to Bogota was a breeze, I was able to snag Delta1 seating for sub $500 so it was a no-brainer and an easy flight. Customs was a breeze, just have your check-mig filled out and I was through customs and the luggage pick up spot in under 10 minutes. There are many ATMs in the luggage pick up area, choose which one works for you, and get some cash there if needed. Uber is not allowed at the airport to pick up directly, if you want to use them you have to walk offsite which I highly do not recommend. It was 35 mil for me to take a black car to my hotel in ZonaT. Before a lot of you haters get started on "YYZ overpays for shit". I frankly don't care so save it. The hotel was nice, got a suite there and paid sub-$100 a night which included a full breakfast daily with English-speaking employees. The hotel was guest friendly, but I just made sure not to bring back girls who were clearly prepagos. Anyone I was with I would ask them to dress like a lady and I had zero problems.

    I did a mix of clubs, Bumble (which is great for non-pros if you are least semi-attractive), and visited Santa Fe once. I did the Woodman tour and would highly recommend it. Santa Fe is a spot I would never go to down by myself, and it's not that I was afraid there, it's just dirty and disgusting. I did get a nice BBBJ from a young street girl there, but it was so bad I stopped partway through and just left to continue the tour. Woodman knew the area, showed me all the clubs, and helped get snacks, etc. Some guys are saying that "why do you need to pay Woodman?" - It's because it's his job. And he was worth every penny of the cost. He showed me the clubs, helped me negotiate show costs, and made sure the meseros didn't rip me off for a first-time visitor there. In short, we spend about 4 hours together and it was really nice to see, but outside of just partying a bit that was all for the night. Woodman is cool as hell, and just chilling with the guy was fun in itself. Thank you, Woodman!

    I visited numerous casas, massage parlors and, 3 main clubs up near ZonaT. Olympia, CasaNova, and Lido. Some nights were amazing with 40+ girl lineups, other nights when some board members came it was not so great, and apologies guys but it really was better the nights before. Hung out with MSanchez a few times, and that guy is cool as hell. When you enter the club all the girls line up and stand there until you pick one. I'm picky, and even if I know who I want I will make them wait. Both nights I ended up with girls who I ended up bringing back to my hotel, and then am still talking to even as of this morning on Whats App. Be warned, each time you order a drink you should pay in advance. Both of my girls confirmed that the meseros will intentionally take the menu and then try to rip you off for the check. Keep the menu, and each time you order a drink or bottle you pay upfront in cash. Otherwise, at the end they want to tack some crazy "service" fee on there. Unfortunately, both Msanchez and I got ripped off at Casanova for probably 100 Mil each, but my second girl actually ended up so upset about this she gave it back to me out of her pocket when I told her. (I didn't take it, but she just didn't like me getting mistreated). That's the same night she told me "leche en todo papicito", which for my fairly decent Spanish means "cum inside me daddy". Almost blew a hole in that girls back I came so hard with the grinding thing she did.

    I'm not sure what most of you guys want, but for me, it's not always about fucking, but it's the thrill of the hunt. Columbian girls are passionate if you find the right ones, and I will be damned if not one but both of the girls I was talking to on the second night ended up turning down money from me one of them going to BBFS and her telling me she developed feelings for me. My goal for these trips is to enjoy my time, spend 50% of the time with just quick girls in casas or parlors, and the other 50% my aim is to vet and find a few long term girls to visit in the future, or even import to me on trips. I like dating and girlfriends. Cost-wise, the average massage parlor was 150-200 k for an hour, and most club girls wanted 300 k-500 k for TLN. I spent about 800 - 1.2 M daily between high-end food, dating, shopping, and sex sometimes 3-4 times daily. Again, for those you who say "you overpaid". I don't care. I'm not rich , but I don't do 2-3 month trips like you guys, so my time there is more valuable than getting the best deal every possible time. Also, ProTip here: Lecethin. This stuff really increases cum volume. Grab a bottle on Amazon and bring it with you. I took about 8-12 a day (they are giant pills) - but really do increase the volume which makes having sex 3-4 daily for a week possible and far more enjoyable. Also, don't go with that off-market Viagra or Cialis. GoodRX you can get 30 100 MG Viagra a month for about $24 USD. I break them in 1/2 and can literally fuck, cum, and fuck again while staying hard with those things. I don't need them, I just want them so I can turn a session into a solid 30+ min of intercourse with these.

    Leaving Bogota was easy. Called an Uber and was there in about 30 minutes around 7:00 am. The airport was fast customs wise, just the check-mig form again, the usual customs declarations when checking my bag and then to the gate. I got there too early, so I suggest 2 hours before a flight, not 3. Not a lot is open there early, so did a ton of just sitting at the gate before boarding the plane. I was back asleep before we even took off and just woke up for the meal service and then back to bed after a super long night the night before. I'm heading back to MDE in January for 15 days, and sure enough one of the Bogota girls I'm now going to bring with me as a wing-woman. Will buy her ticket and food, but otherwise not paying her otherwise. Before the player haters come out and tell me I'm bringing sand to the beach, she knows the drill and is going to help me crush a lot of pussy with hopefully some really passionate threesomes as she is into girls too and really wants me as her Papi Chulo which I would be totally fine with. If anyone is in MDE from 1/19 - 1/30 let me know. Let's get out and first bottle in the club is on me.
    Whatever floats your boat, as some else said, as long as it doesn't impact the overall price range!

  6. #8977

    Thanks amigo

    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]
    I went to Bogota for my third trip to that city a few weeks after my trip to Medellin in November. I wanted to take further advantage of the pre-Christmas rush and squeeze in another trip while Colombia was still suspending the PCR test requirement and before Biden imprisons us in the Matrix. My interest in Bogota specifically, the Santa Fe red light district stemmed from what I saw of the renaissance of the Centro street scene in Medellin, which was richer than usual due to post-lockdown circumstances. I hoped that this would be an opportune time to take advantage of such circumstances in Santa Fe..
    You list some interesting insights, you like to analyze things like I do.

    I do a trip autopsy when I get home, well done!

  7. #8976

    What's with all the defensiveness

    Quote Originally Posted by YyzTravel  [View Original Post]
    Before the player haters come out .
    And hey we don't talk like that around here, this is not the Jerry Springer show circa 1993.

  8. #8975

    Thank you for your detailed report!

    Quote Originally Posted by YyzTravel  [View Original Post]
    OK guys, been home for a few days after a 7 days trip. Here is a full trip report for everyone.
    You shouldn't have to explain why you're spending your money as you see fit, well, as long as you're not grossly overpaying or give outrageous tips because that does have a potential to raise prices. But as long as you don't make them reevaluate (LOL) their price tags who gives a shit? It's your money. As to airfares or lodging costs, I don't think it's anyone's business to begin with. Just like you, I don't have months to explore the scene, and I won't try to pinch pennies by staying in shitty hotels.

    Could you explain how GoodRX works? They always spam all my emails, so I've never given them a second thought. For this kind of money, though, I'm pretty sure it's generic they sell, no?

    Also Lecethin. Any side effect you've noticed? I used to take Maca, and it worked initially, then I noticed it stopped being effective.

  9. #8974
    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]
    The Centro street scene in Medellin had evidently taken off due to slow business or closures at the usual indoor venues, health concerns about those indoor venues that were open, and general post-lockdown economic hardship. I had thought, as I planned my Medellin trip, that Internet pipelining would be the most fruitful form of mongering during a pandemic that had pushed so many other forms of labor and leisure into virtual settings. It did not occur to me until I saw the rebirth of the Centro street scene in Medellin that "outdoor mongering" would be another lifeline for this business, in much the same way that "outdoor dining" has been a lifeline for many struggling restaurants. Colombia's other main "outdoor mongering" venues are Bogota's Santa Fe district (in part) and Cartagena's Clock Tower. Cartagena is not my cup of tea, so Santa Fe was the obvious choice for my next trip.
    I was in Medellin all of October and went to Centro several times. Maybe the street scene hadn't picked up as much as when you were there. But it was pretty much the same as its always been in my opinion. Pretty abysmal. And doesn't have anything on Santa Fe.

    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]

    The general contours of Santa Fe's landscape remained much the same as before, except for the disappointing closure of Atunes during my visit. That daytime / happy hour club was one of my preferred spots in Santa Fe and yielded many of my best sessions during my previous two trips.
    I agree this his a huge blow. Atunes was a staple of my Bogota diet. I miss it.

    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]

    The biggest and most significant shift seems to have been in both the numbers and the quality of the girls working the street, relative to the clubs. There has always been significant overlap between the street girls and the club girls, in contrast to the sharper distinctions between street girls and club girls in Tijuana. As they always have, many Santa Fe girls go back and forth between the street and the clubs as they see fit. It seemed to me that post-lockdown circumstances have shifted some of the talent pool, including some of the hotter girls and the better performers, away from the clubs and toward the street. I asked some of the girls about this observation, and some of them said that: a) working the clubs had become less profitable because guys had less money to spend and thus went more frequently for the cheaper option of buying pussy off the street; and b) they and some guys were concerned about the health risks of the clubs' often crowded indoor environments. This shift marked an interesting parallel to Tijuana, where the closure of clubs by the authorities forced many club girls to work the street for a fraction of what they earned at the clubs, as I saw when I went there earlier this year.
    In my opinion, the hotter girls are still in the clubs. I was in Santa Fe in Sept 2019 and compared to now, the street scene of Santa Fe is about 60 to 70 percent of what it should be. Atonis is about the same. Troya, has taken a hit. It used to be that you'd go to troya on a Friday evening and there would be a tons of guys, but there were also a decent number of girls. Nowadays, troya is hit or miss. There are always a lot of guys on the popular nights, but the number of girls has dwindled. I'd say its 50 percent of what it was in 2019. Paisas was always hit or miss. Not much has changed there. There's also a club in between paisas that back in the day would also have girls but now is closed.

    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]
    Some mongers have suggested that post-lockdown circumstances would create a "buyer's market," believing that economic hardship would flood the market with girls, make them more amenable to lower prices, or motivate them to provide better service. As in Medellin, I found this observation to be true in many cases, but wrong in other cases. Economic desperation is not always a good or reliable motivation to provide quality service. It merely motivates the desperate to obtain money, but not necessarily to give good value in exchange for that money.
    If there is desperation in the air, I cannot smell it. The girls normally charge 30 or 40 k. How much lower can you really go? Maybe they are a bit desperate, and they'll go with your for 35 k instead of 40 k? As cheap as I am, I'm not going to argue over 5 k.

    I think generally, what kind of service you get has always depended on a combination of what kind of rapport you build with the girl and how much you pay her. Nothing has changed there. I have some girls that are sweethearts in santa fe. Some that are cold and machine like when you get to the room. I do repeats with the former. Trying them out for 40 k is the fun part. Then on the repeat you can go for more time.

    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]


    By the same token, many performances were poor and half-assed, such that I might have protested if the sums of money involved had not been so small. The recurring theme with poor performers was that many of them were Venezuelans, which illustrates my point that desperation is not a reliable source of good service. I have long suspected that the Venezuelan impact on the pussy market in Colombia has been overrated, and now I am convinced. I do not doubt that cheap competition from Venezuelans helps to keep Colombians in check, but I do not see any other qualitative advantage that the Venezuelans offer, beyond increasing numbers and lowering prices. My Spanish has improved to the point that I can now recognize the Venezuelan accent, and to be honest I often find it irritating and hard to understand.
    I for one am grateful for the venezuelan presence in Bogota. That's the main reason why I came to Bogota from medellin. I find that colombians are more likely to be full of themselves, venezuelans for the most part I find to be more humble. I can sometimes tell the accent, but I don't find it rough. Maybe my spanish is not good enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]
    I have now spent enough time in Santa Fe to see patterns in the geographic distribution of the street girls and figure out what works best for me. I have usually gotten my best results with girls on the side of the street across from the rear entrance of La Piscina, which I have come to call "Silicone Alley. " The girls here are often more stacked, thicker, taller, and somewhat older, with stronger erotic skills and a better sense of customer service. To the south there is a higher concentration of young skinny girls whose cedulas you should check before you partake, as well as some black girls from Cali. The skinny young girls are generally not my cup of tea, and to the extent that I did sample this segment of the talent pool, I was often disappointed. Black girls from Cali rarely disappoint, however. To the west, along the street with the rear entrances to Troya and Paisas, the talent and the service is mixed.
    I know the area to the south you talk about. I call it "jailbait corner". Have fun and stay safe in santa fe!

  10. #8973

    Dec 21 Last night in Bogota

    Had an awesome night even though it was still Monday and slower. I had 2 different two hour sessions with 2 of my favorite fiebre girls to help them get a little more cash before Christmas. One of the girls I'm crushing hard on trying to convince her to come to Cancun with me for Christmas. I've been all over Colombia but this girl fiebre is the perfect combination of sexy and cute after all my trips to Colombia and worldwide 70 countries and counting. Ibis is definitely my favorite hotel spot only brought one girl back just asked for cedula of course. 11,000 pesos Uber to andino. Home burgers right across the street best burgers in Colombia. Oxxo two minute walk and bank machine s galore. Cheap and reliable laundry place just up the hill from ibis by the gold museum just follow the white wall up the hill 10-20 k a bag.

  11. #8972
    This is what happened to me recently! I'm glad those F* got caught!

    https://www.eltiempo.com/justicia/de...hombres-556368

  12. #8971
    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowJ  [View Original Post]
    I've asked this question in various forms. But I think I'll try again before I go back to an AirBnB. I like clean, comfortable 3* and up hotels with fluffy towels and clean sheets. I also like bringing chicas in without a hassle.

    I saw a report that sounded like the Marriott didn't bother you. Is that true? Are there any other nice hotels that tolerate female guests? Or at least don't have a ridiculous chica fee?
    The Hyatt Place in las corferias is brand new and girl friendly. I wrote to them before I arrived and they specifically told me that they would never charge extra for visitors. Its really a more business oriented hotel, so its not fancy but practical. I get the feeling they are used to random people coming in as they hold conferences / meetings here. You can get a suite if you want more space. The breakfast is decent and there is a bar in the lobby if you want to use it. Again not fancy, utiliitarian. The lobby is also on the 2nd floor, not the first. You can enter with your chica and after the guard takes your temperature, you go straight to the elevator and have the option of either stopping in the lobby on the 2nd floor to register your guest or going straight to your room.

    Its a 5 minute cab ride to santa fe without traffic. A 7 minute cab ride to chapinero without traffic. Theres a mini exito a block away. The minuses: it can sometimes be difficult to get a cab / uber after 11 pm or so. There isn't much to do in the area unless you're going to some convention nearby. You're going to be taking a taxi or a bus anywhere you want to go. But I spend a lot of time in my hotel room, so that doesn't really bother me.

  13. #8970
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    As a tourist your legal ID is your passport. That's the one you should be using. However, if you also have the passport card, you could probably use that as well.
    Thats technically probably true. But practically speaking, most people don't care. I used an expired drivers license to enter a mall on Monday.

  14. #8969
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    As a tourist your legal ID is your passport. That's the one you should be using. However, if you also have the passport card, you could probably use that as well.
    In Most cases a copy of passport is fine or a drivers license-- Also it is very easy to doctor a scan of passport to change number to odd or even and then print out a b+W copy.

  15. #8968

    Photos for Make Bogota Great Again: December 2020 Trip Report

    Here are the photos from my December 2020 trip.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails costena_fiebre_1.jpg‎   costena_street.jpg‎   paisa.jpg‎   rola.jpg‎   rola_roja.jpg‎  


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