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  1. #14091
    Quote Originally Posted by Trilon  [View Original Post]
    Santa Fe (for curious fellow gringos) is a unique animal. The price is cheap (40 k + 10 k room), the women can be in abundance, and you only need to find one chica out of the many you will pass on. You do have to hunt them down, in-person, and not choose from the comfort of an online catalog or brothel couch. It's legwork and you need to vet each one you approach in an unsavory environment. I will say I had zero problems with the people that occupy Santa Fe. It's just a place where people converge to make a living. Nobody is out to "get you. " But, it's still the streets so you need to act accordingly. Practice and learn from your mistakes. I found the evening rush hour to be the least intimidating.
    Hate to bust your Colombia cherry but that price is not unique to Bogota or santa fe. 40 k plus the pieza (room) is standard price for street girls all across Colombia. Bogota (Santa Fe) Medellin (Plaza botero / Veracruz) Cali (El Obrero) Cucuta (La Séptima) (10 k cheaper there) and many other pueblos and towns in between. Glad I could help you out with the lingo. I highly recommend aprendiendo Español as the language will open many doors. Buena Suerte amigo why que LE vaya con Dios.

  2. #14090

    What hotel were you staying at?

    That you had no trouble with so many visits?

    Quote Originally Posted by TravelPunk2  [View Original Post]
    I can't agree with this more. I understand people are on different budgets, but it's worth it to really think about what you're paying for. Get the cheap uber to eliminate risk. Pay a little bit more for creature comforts, for the things that save time or make things more convenient. Make it up by saving money elsewhere on your trip (food, souvenirs) or just save at home where you can track expenses easier.

    Also, I would second that the club value here is excellent. I know my standards might be a little lower than some, but I always find someone in the clubs that I am into. Obviously body / face is important, but I also want to feel that chemistry and increase the chance of getting a good service / experience. I would take a 6/10 who is skilled and enjoying the session over a 10/10 who is just going through the motions and wants to get it over with as soon as possible. Any day of the week.

    That being said, Bogota has something and someone for everyone. I've met people who love the street scene in SF, those who like the clubs, others like the Spas, and then people like me who would rather pay a little for for the Online girls (not Seeking, F that). I also don't really enjoy the loud music, the pushy touts, the dirty streets with sketchy people, etc. I was down last week, and every night doing call-ins at my hotel from encounters or Eroticabogota. Every single girl was fantastic, and the best part is I didn't have to roam around at night and worry about getting ripped off. Kept my valuables in the safe, briefcase / laptop in the closet just in case, but I trust the agencies up to a point that I'm not too worried about anything.

    One specific example: I had a girl Cata from Encounters. Beautiful young girl next door type, looked like the type of you'd find on a college campus, 19, gorgeous smile, full GFE. I gave her 400 k for the 75 min, which included a tip because we went twice and went a little off-menu. I'd take that in a heartbeat over SF or the Clubs, but that's just me.

    I will say, though, that I also enjoy Tantra specifically. After work or if I can get away for lunch, spending 100 k cop for a BBBJ DT with swallowing and getting in / out in 15 min is just a fun thing, and those girls are all experts at it, I've found.

  3. #14089

    Hotel Recommendations

    I'm planning a trip to Bogota in early to mid December, and the last time I was there I stayed at the Embassy Suites by Hilton. I would like to try something else, preferably a hotel (4 stars ish) closer to Santa Fe that is escort friendly. Any suggestions?

  4. #14088

    Closing Thoughts

    Santa Fe (for curious fellow gringos) is a unique animal. The price is cheap (40 k + 10 k room), the women can be in abundance, and you only need to find one chica out of the many you will pass on. You do have to hunt them down, in-person, and not choose from the comfort of an online catalog or brothel couch. It's legwork and you need to vet each one you approach in an unsavory environment. I will say I had zero problems with the people that occupy Santa Fe. It's just a place where people converge to make a living. Nobody is out to "get you. " But, it's still the streets so you need to act accordingly. Practice and learn from your mistakes. I found the evening rush hour to be the least intimidating.

  5. #14087

    Santa Fe. Tues 8 am

    The chica volume was low as expected for a morning run, but the quality was pleasantly high. I was tempted by different chicas, but I remembered I promised myself to finish the entire route first. I'm glad I did. Near the end, I saw my favorite of the morning on Calle 24 near 16 Cr. She was a 20 year-old petite Venny with cute cheerleader looks. Exactly the type I aimed for this trip and had eluded me until now. I still had to walk a few more blocks to complete my route. She was still there when I returned, but I noticed her friend got snatched up already. It was 40 k plus 10 k for the room. During sex, she made grunting noises like it hurt but I figured it was part of the act. Before the knock even came, she said, "terminar. " I knew I had to finish fast. Just as she pulled away 15 seconds later to end the session, I finished just in time but it was close. The prettier ones must be more demanding. Despite the rushed ending, she made my day. The last few chicas were lackluster and this one reminded me of Santa Fe's potential.

  6. #14086

    True

    Quote Originally Posted by Giz99  [View Original Post]
    The last time I was in Bogota everyone warned me how dangerous Medellin was.

    When I arrived in Medellin everyone warned me how dangerous Bogota was.

    I felt safe in both cities, just follow safe practices and don't draw attention to yourself.
    I have no allusions about Bogota being safe-- But it seems like most of the bodies are in Medellin-- Just from a quick glance at the new reports.

  7. #14085
    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1  [View Original Post]
    Go to Medellin, hands down. Don't go to Bogota, too dangerous, they are kidnapping gringos by the dozens. Be safe.
    The last time I was in Bogota everyone warned me how dangerous Medellin was.

    When I arrived in Medellin everyone warned me how dangerous Bogota was.

    I felt safe in both cities, just follow safe practices and don't draw attention to yourself.

  8. #14084
    Quote Originally Posted by IsaBahn  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I met a girl in Bogota and I really like her. I wanted to fly her with me to Europe to travel around and site seeing. Does someone have any experience with that? Immigration? Overall ordeal?

    Thanks in advance.
    By all means, avoid. Take a step back and reflect. A working girl unfortunately will remain a working girl and you will end up disappointed whatever you do. I went through this many times.

  9. #14083

    Facebook game

    Quote Originally Posted by MahaSiddha  [View Original Post]
    At Gabacho.

    When you say "in Medellin it's easier to find BBFS. " You mean on the street, online or clubs?

    My data points for getting BBFS so far is only from using SA in USA Phoenix and Mexico CDMX and I always ask before the meeting and the hit rate is about 50 percent.
    I only date Facebook girl while in Medellin, with true identity. Only BBFS for me, very safe since you have the girl info including friends and family. Facebook game is time consuming but it work good for me, I would not imagine that one day I would fuck the most beautiful women in earth (Paisa).

  10. #14082
    Quote Originally Posted by MahaSiddha  [View Original Post]
    At Gabacho.

    When you say "in Medellin it's easier to find BBFS. " You mean on the street, online or clubs?

    My data points for getting BBFS so far is only from using SA in USA Phoenix and Mexico CDMX and I always ask before the meeting and the hit rate is about 50 percent.
    Street and online. Paisa women in particular seem more willing to do it in my experience. Not that vennies won't do it too but the paisas I feel are more open to it. I'd say off the top of my head it's more like 80% yes among the paisa chicas, in my experience.

    I don't know much about clubs, casas, or spas.

    Also asking before meeting isn't always the best path. I've had chicas tell me no before hand and then I agree to covered for a lower price but then once together in the room I ask again and it changes from no to yes.

    They may tell you no upfront because they want to inspect your dick first before they say yes. Also if they are within listening range of any of their other friends they will be more inclined to say no than when they are alone as there tends to be a bad stigma attached to BBFS and they often don't want their friends to know that they do it, even though they mostly all do it at some point.

  11. #14081
    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1  [View Original Post]
    Go to Medellin, hands down. Don't go to Bogota, too dangerous, they are kidnapping gringos by the dozens. Be safe.
    Horrible advice. Bogota is far safer in the nicer areas than Medellin right now. Over the last two years, transnational gangs are targeting gringos for crime in Medellin. Both can still be wonderful but you have to watch yourself far more carefully in the hobby in Medellin.

  12. #14080
    Quote Originally Posted by IsaBahn  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I met a girl in Bogota and I really like her. I wanted to fly her with me to Europe to travel around and site seeing. Does someone have any experience with that? Immigration? Overall ordeal?

    Thanks in advance.
    Colombian passport works in most of Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_r...mbian_citizens#text=Colombia%20 is%20 an%20 associated%20 member, no%20 requirement%20 other%20 than%20 nationality.

    Be careful of the Mann Act and a charge of human trafficking: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act.

    Keep in mind the optics. If you are in your 60's or over and she is in her 20's, then you need to be much more mindful if she is in your 30's and you are in your 40's. You can make a charge harder to stick by getting an untraceable gift card to pay for her ticket while using a VPN. You might want to buy separate hotel rooms the first night as well. If asked, you want to say you met in Europe. You should only travel with a woman you know well and trust.

    Last I checked the UK was not allowing Colombians in visa free, so this has changed, but depending on your situation, that is one place in Europe I would prefer not to enter. I think in general Eastern European countries will be more tolerant than the Western ones.

    From a companion POV, about half the women I asked on trips knew how to handle themselves. The airport rules you know and take for granted are often huge stumbling blocks for the women. The ones who knew how to handle themselves were great companions and trips with Colombian women were among the most fun things I ever have done in my life.

  13. #14079
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    This is bullshit. He's just as likely to get kidnapped in Medellin or Cartagena as in Bogota. There is a lot more scoping incidents in Medellin as well too.

    Whether or not he is a victim of crime will depend on the situations he puts himself in regardless of which city he goes to.

    Both Bogota and Medellin have a lot to offer in terms of P4P it will come down to personal preference which one he prefers to go to. Me personally I live in Medellin and I prefer Medellin but I have a lot of contacts in Bogota too.

    Bogot is a lot bigger with more women available but in Medellin it's easier to find BBFS. And the paisas are the best women on Earth YMMV.
    At Gabacho.

    When you say "in Medellin it's easier to find BBFS. " You mean on the street, online or clubs?

    My data points for getting BBFS so far is only from using SA in USA Phoenix and Mexico CDMX and I always ask before the meeting and the hit rate is about 50 percent.

  14. #14078
    Quote Originally Posted by Tumeric1  [View Original Post]
    Dear colleagues (brothers}

    I am going to either Bogota or Medellin for 2-3 weeks for "workation" and planning to stay at airbnb (but not getting anyone to come in). I have a pretty limited Spanish and want to see girls (of course). I usually prefer to be able to take a shower (together is an option), and not rush (1 HR). Safety / walkability is important.

    Would Chapinero have options to meet my needs within mostly walking distance? My preference would be either spa or an apartment. Is that area generally safe to stay? What are the ways to find the "good" resources? And, finally, do you feel that Bogota would make a better base for such a trip?

    Thank you in advance.
    With women, it depends what you want. If you want to fuck the hottest hookers, I would say Medellin. If you want to fuck hot women that may be cultured and have character, then I would go with Bogota. I was more into sugar babies than hookers and found better in Bogota. I also think the women are less stuck up in Bogota.

    Not sure if it matters to you, but you will hear tons of English in Medellin as it is filled with foreigners. Ironically, I thought Bogota had more women who could speak English.

    Climate wise, Bogota is like New York in October. Medellin is like South Florida in the winter. Most people prefer Florida but a lot of people like that autumn feel.

    Food wise, give me Bogota. Safety wise, I will take Bogota too.

    Culturally, I think Bogota has more there and any big international act that is coming to Colombia will have a show in Bogota.

    Medellin is easier to get around. But if you stay in the region near the Andino mall, it is relatively safe and you can walk to anywhere you need.

    Bogota has a higher altitude and more pollution, so it is more likely to fuck with you health wise than Medellin. Sometimes I am fine when I go. Others, my nose is nonstop dripping or congested.

    Bogota's airport is bigger and harder to get around in. Of course, it has way more flights. Medellin's airport is smaller and easier to manage but it is like a half hour at least from downtown.

    On the shower thing, Colombians do not seem to put a high priority on hot water. IMO it is not a Bogota / Medellin thing. Any decent hotel will have hot water, but if you are going the apartment route, you want to look for one with a shower that has its own hot water heater. They run $20 to $40 and a lot of Airbnbs have learned to install them.

    Hope that helps.

  15. #14077

    Lidos

    Quote Originally Posted by PussyRiot  [View Original Post]
    Planning to visit Bogota again and night options were lacking since all northern clubs were closed.

    Can anyone recommend high end places to visit night times?? Santa Fe is cool but it gets little old to visit each nights.
    Last 2 trips to Bogota went to Lidos and a couple other clubs. The girl in Lidos are a notch above. Very expensive but I had fun.

    Eroticasbogota had a couple nice girls.

    Olimpio was soso but there are a couple cuties past midnight.

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