Bogota Reports

[Elvis 2008]

I appreciate the lesson though, LOL.

Why? You didn't understand it.

Hmmm, Ok, so what does that have to do with if a girl is cool, good in the sack, GFE, etc?

I am not going to even go into the legal issues because God knows what some guys here would do if they understood them. What are the career choices a Venezuelan woman has in comparison to a Colombian one? Which type of woman has a tremendous incentive to perform better?

[Elvis 2008]

The problem with Santa Fe is that the girls are just way more used and disease ridden than the clubs or agency escorts. In general, I know there are exceptions. There was this guy on this forum whose strategy was to bareback as many girls in Santa Fe as possible. And he didn't like club girls or escorts because they refused to bareback with him. So the chances of getting something like Herpes or whatever is a lot higher with street girls. I don't judge anyone, but it's just not my scene.

I could link studies and tell you how to really prevent getting herpes (PM if you want and BTW condoms don't prevent herpes), but I got a feeling this is more emotional than rational for you because it is for me too. The noise, the bed, the often loud music, the smell, the cheapness and unsanitary appearing conditions of the hotel rooms or rooms in the club often have made Elvis JR go limp. It wasn't an issue with Asakira because she turned me on so much, but it is a problem. I have to be really turned on by a woman on Santa Fe or I know it won't be any good.

It is anecdotal but one of the best books I ever read was Pimp by Iceberg Slim, and he had to deal with all kinds of working girls, and he proclaimed the young ones never got sick. Most of the Santa Fe women are young. Realistically, the health risks are the same in both places IMO, but if you have germophobia, I get it and you probably won't have a good time if you go.

And FWIW, maybe the less attractive women are willing to do BB, but I couldn't get any of the attractive ones I saw on Santa Fe to even give me a price. OTOH, the regular women I have met on my dates have almost all been a different story.

[Balboa]

You get that most Venezuelans are in Colombia illegally right? That they practically have no rights?

My ex had a stalker in Peru. The Peruvian police were polite, but they basically told her that you are Venezuelan and you don't pay our salary, so we don't give a fuck about you.

And Peru has been much more generous to the Venezuelans than Colombia has.

Under Obama, a secret service agent stiffed a Colombian hooker and it was an international incident as the police took the hooker's side. What do you think the police would have done if the hooker was Venezuelan?

Hmmm, Ok, so what does that have to do with if a girl is cool, good in the sack, GFE, etc?

I appreciate the lesson though, LOL.

[Mr Enternational]

The only thing that bothered me about the Venezuelan girls in Santa Fe was they almost universally had some fucked up, painted on eyebrows. Even with super-hot girls, it was something that was hard to ignore when making eye contact with them. I don't get it. For the most part, they didn't wear too much hooker makeup but 90% shaved their eyebrows and painted on something hideous. Is it some fashion-trend down there? If so, I can wait until it goes away.

LOL. Did you talk to them about it? If I see a chick doing shit I consider strange then I ask them about it out of curiosity. And my guess is that they are tattooed on that way since makeup tattoo is the thing now. This is a chick I mess with in Dominican Republic. Women just tend to do dumb shit.

[The Tall Man]

The only thing that bothered me about the Venezuelan girls in Santa Fe was they almost universally had some fucked up, painted on eyebrows. Even with super-hot girls, it was something that was hard to ignore when making eye contact with them. I don't get it. For the most part, they didn't wear too much hooker makeup but 90% shaved their eyebrows and painted on something hideous. Is it some fashion-trend down there? If so, I can wait until it goes away.

True that, that eyebrow shit reminds me of the Mexican cholo chics back in the day in the barrios of LOS Angeles CA. They did all kinds of shit to their eyebrows with some of them going as far as making themselves look like a clown.

The Tall Man.

[ShadowJ]

The only thing that bothered me about the Venezuelan girls in Santa Fe was they almost universally had some fucked up, painted on eyebrows. Even with super-hot girls, it was something that was hard to ignore when making eye contact with them. I don't get it. For the most part, they didn't wear too much hooker makeup but 90% shaved their eyebrows and painted on something hideous. Is it some fashion-trend down there? If so, I can wait until it goes away.

[Woodman09]

Does anybody avoid the Venezuelan girls? They usually go way cheaper but it comes to a higher risk. I personally prefer Colombians because is what I like but 6 bucks for a Venezuelan might be hard to pass up. Venezuelans lack healthcare, are more homily and hangout with a lot of unsavory individuals. Santa Fe has been completely overrun by Venezuelans many of the trafficked. I usually stick online for take out.

Wow, You know a lot. I see tons of Venezuelan girls just as and more beautiful than Colombianas.

There are many girls who were students and did not do this kind of work in Venezuela.

There are all color of girl from the middle class and poor too.

Also prices are the same although there are more Venezuelans on the street. I don't know that the Colombianas are any different as far as healthcare.

[Elvis 2008]

Them not accepting money is not saying you did not spend money on them, as you have so eloquently stated that you did.

Sigh.

I flew the sister out 3 months after I was in love with my gal, and the parents were flown out six months later. That was when we were together.

After we broke up, the family wouldn't accept a penny from me.

I really am sorry that facts get in the way of your narrative that all women and their families are the same.

I could care less about money. What I care about is the shit that I can get with money.

Right. You like to think you are total control of your money. You earned and deserved it. But if the central bank prints more and more money, your money and the shit you can buy becomes less and less, and that is out of your control.

And if a central bank did print money like crazy and devalued what you owned by 99+%, do you think maybe, possibly it would have some kind of an effect on you and the other people in that country? Eh, but it's not like there is a country where that recently actually happened or at least not one that you know about. Right?

[Madra Bid Dog]

Does anybody avoid the Venezuelan girls? They usually go way cheaper but it comes to a higher risk. I personally prefer Colombians because is what I like but 6 bucks for a Venezuelan might be hard to pass up. Venezuelans lack healthcare, are more homily and hangout with a lot of unsavory individuals. Santa Fe has been completely overrun by Venezuelans many of the trafficked. I usually stick online for take out.

[Madra Bid Dog]

I agree with you 100%. Some of these girls are just trying to make it and stereotyping ain't cool. These guys are just assuming there are lines at the western union of women waiting for money from dumb foreigners. I could tell many stories about my experiences in Colombia. Hell I get laid every day almost twice a day with awesome women when I travel Colombian women are awesome, shit I find worse women back home in the US than here.

MBD, the stereotypes these guys come up with aren't worth addressing. All women are the same, their families are the same, but stereotype on nationality? That isn't cool.

I can think of five different and easier ways to send money than Western Union. How would anyone know who sent the money and that these hot women are getting money from foreigners who have two (not one and not three) guys with them and the exact role these men play? Hang out at Western Union all day? All over a city?

Kudos to you on scoring big.

[Mr Enternational]

but the family refused to take a penny from me.

Sigh, I met one in Aruba, flew out there, moved her to Peru. Then moved her sibling and whole family there.

Not seeing the difference between me offering a chick $100 to go buy a microwave and her refusing it, and me going to the store and spending $100 on a microwave and handing it to the chick and her accepting it.

I could care less about money. What I care about is the shit that I can get with money. If someone is giving me all the shit then me not actually accepting the cash needed to spend on said shit is irrelevant.

Them not accepting money is not saying you did not spend money on them, as you have so eloquently stated that you did. Or is someone copying the exact same thing that you wrote once again a misquote as well?

[Mr Enternational]

The problem with Santa Fe is that the girls are just way more used and disease ridden than the clubs or agency escorts. In general, I know there are exceptions. There was this guy on this forum whose strategy was to bareback as many girls in Santa Fe as possible. And he didn't like club girls or escorts because they refused to bareback with him. So the chances of getting something like Herpes or whatever is a lot higher with street girls. I don't judge anyone, but it's just not my scene.

So because one guy told you a story, you were able to deduce that a whole area is used and disease ridden? I would actually assume it was the opposite. MFs hiring agency chicks and escorts are paying top money so of course they are going to require shit they may not be able to get from a chick at a cheap spot. For instance those dudes in Dubai ordering up chicks paying all that money and shitting on chicks and the like.

Chicks at cheap places are not going to be down with that. In the words of a Calle 18 chick that I was fucking in Ecuador who would not stop playing with her phone, "It is only six dollars. " So who is going to get the stops pulled out? The dude paying $6 or the dude paying $200?

[Elvis 2008]

Dude,

While it might be true in some cases, I did send 80 bucks a few months back to a Colombian girl I knew when she got laid off. I came back to Bogota and she just fucked me for 3 days and two nights (hell I'm still recuperating). All I has to do is get lunch / dinner and pay her cab to get her clothes from home on the second day. While I do speak Spanish I don't think is safe to assume all are gold digging leeches.

MBD, the stereotypes these guys come up with aren't worth addressing. All women are the same, their families are the same, but stereotype on nationality? That isn't cool.

I can think of five different and easier ways to send money than Western Union. How would anyone know who sent the money and that these hot women are getting money from foreigners who have two (not one and not three) guys with them and the exact role these men play? Hang out at Western Union all day? All over a city?

Kudos to you on scoring big.

[Elvis 2008]

Are you really quoting a guy who misquoted me? Seriously?

What I meant by this is after 3 days with my ex I had feelings for her and moved her to Peru. I really liked her but didn't love her or know her that well. I didn't know how she would react to the economic freedom and prosperity Peru offers in comparison to Venezuela. That is what I meant about losing her to a guy with more money or muscle bound guy.

We fell in love about 3 months after that move. It was two years later when I lost her to a con man.

As for the family always being in on my ex's action, they weren't. The first thing my ex did was beg me not to tell her parents. Her sister was straight up with me. She told me that my ex never strayed but called her crazy, told me that she had been to a doctor for narcissistic tendencies, and apologized for the rest of her family. I felt sorry for them for abruptly cutting them off on account of her, but the family refused to take a penny from me.

[Elvis 2008]

Obviously can't lump all people from a country in one basket.

As of lately, the coolest girls I'm meeting in Colombia are the Venezuelans.

You get that most Venezuelans are in Colombia illegally right? That they practically have no rights?

My ex had a stalker in Peru. The Peruvian police were polite, but they basically told her that you are Venezuelan and you don't pay our salary, so we don't give a fuck about you.

And Peru has been much more generous to the Venezuelans than Colombia has.

Under Obama, a secret service agent stiffed a Colombian hooker and it was an international incident as the police took the hooker's side. What do you think the police would have done if the hooker was Venezuelan?