Bogota Reports

[Riina]

The ONLY issue that I have with SF is that it is geard strictly to the "wham bamn your done in twenty minutes" business model, I like the more subtle and easy going P4 P with some level of interaction with the chica.

Thanks. That's an important detail.

[The Tall Man]

I'll be in Bogota at the Hotel Tequendama in June for a week. I can't wait to get there and try out the Santa Fe scene. But I also like bringing lightly used escorts back to my own room where I can negotiate for what I want. In doing my research for the trip (my first trip to Colombia), I came up with some questions that I hope the community can help with:

1. "Prepagos" - WTF? I don't want to prepay for an escort. Is this just how things work in Bogota? Or can I bring a prepago chica over and pay her afterwards?

2. Colombian Cupid. How do I know which girls are down for p4 p? Since I only have a week in Bogota, I don't plan on any courtships. Is SA the better source for independents?

3. For those who have been to Tijuana, how does the Santa Fe scene compare to the street girls in Tijuana's Zona Norte in terms of quantity, quality, and looks?

Thanks.

I used to go to Tijuana last time 2009, It is somewhat similar, SF is Way Better in terms of price, quantity and quality.

The street scene is 1000% better.

SF Club scene has 9 -10 clubs, last time I was in Tijuana there were 3-4? I have heard a session in Tijuana clubs nowadays is $50-$60+. SF Clubs are $16-$30+. SGs $8-$15+.

The Tall Man has spent more time in Tijuana and spent more money than I care to remember, primarily from 1999 through 2004, numerous visits each month for extended periods of time, then from about 2005 to 2015 probably once every other month, give or take, then in the past 4 years probably 2 or 3 visits each year. Many great memories but time changes all and now spend the vast majority of my time in Colombia and specifically Medellin where I call my home.

As Woodman points out the SF scene is literally 1000 times better than the Tijuana street scene. As point of reference comparing to the Medellin centro street scene which I spent 7 hours yesterday in the Vera, Raudal and Botero Plaza areas, the SF / Bogota is just as strong over Medellin, better to say than it beats it hands-down in every regard.

Cost. Yes you can get a hot HK chica but going rate is now $80 to $100 USD for 30 minutes, give or take, a few weeks back I got a stunning 21 yo Venezuelan who could be a teenage model for abercrombie and fitch for 70 mil in one of the big clubs (Troya), that's the equivalent of about $25. USD, you do the math evaluation.

The street girls, some just as cute and youthful, are had for 30 mil to 40 mil for 20 minutes or so. That is $12. USD.

The ONLY issue that I have with SF is that it is geard strictly to the "wham bamn your done in twenty minutes" business model, I like the more subtle and easy going P4 P with some level of interaction with the chica.

The Tall Man.

[Eszpresszo]

I lived in Bocagrande. There were few if any Gringos.

You might have a word with Coupe66 about that. He seems a bit worked up over it.

[Eszpresszo]

It's called Bocagrande, and it's full of Gringo's! A.

And many of the staff in the bars and restaurants along the strip there can speak English! So now you know where to avoid!

A? Lots of exclamation marks on that response.

[Eszpresszo]

Huh? Really?

That used to be the case, but not now.

My last visit to Medellin, just last month, the immigration line was full of gringos.

Colombia, especially Medellin and Cartagena, most definitely do get a lot of gringo visitors.

Well, I guess I'm in luck, because I wasn't looking forward to meeting any. The two times I visited Colombia I didn't encounter any "gringos" on the plane, or in immigration. Yes, I would imagine Cartagena does get plenty of foreign visitors since the cruise ships halt there. Now that I think of it, I met a local couple who owned a flat in Cartagena and were renting it out at an exorbitant price (something that only foreign money could allow). But, I never went to Cartagena. Never went to Poblado when I was in Medellin, either.

My point was, however, to refute the asinine comment "it seems you have visited only the upper-class or gringo-Colombia" or that there is a "real Colombia" that I hadn't been to. The only Colombia I've visited was the Colombia where I got the passport stamps (see attached photos). Is there a different Colombia I should have gone to?

[PirateMorgan]

I lived in Bocagrande. There were few if any Gringos.

[Santan3]

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[Balboa]

. Colombia does not get a lot of "gringo" visitors, plain and simple..

Huh? Really?

That used to be the case, but not now.

My last visit to Medellin, just last month, the immigration line was full of gringos.

Colombia, especially Medellin and Cartagena, most definitely do get a lot of gringo visitors.

[Coupe66]

Colombia does not get a lot of "gringo" visitors, plain and simple. If there is such a thing as "gringo-Colombia" then tell me where it is, so I can make a point of avoiding it.

It's called Bocagrande, and it's full of Gringo's! A.

And many of the staff in the bars and restaurants along the strip there can speak English! So now you know where to avoid!

[Coupe66]

Colombia does not get a lot of "gringo" visitors, plain and simple. If there is such a thing as "gringo-Colombia" then tell me where it is, so I can make a point of avoiding it.

Doesn't it ? Are you sure about that ? What about Bocagrande, it's full of Gringo's! And many of the staff in the bars and restaurants there can speak English too ! So now you know where to avoid!

[Santan3]

Though my friend couldn't come with me, I stick my plan and finally here. Just took a quick look Santa Fe, saw some attractive ladies on the street outside paisas area. Went back to hotel before dark. With my limited Spanish, I think I need some help for the first few sessions. Will contact WoodMan09! And if anyone sees an Asian guy, perhaps it's me!

[ScottHall]

You misunderstand. It does not mean that you literally have to pay her first. In fact, unless she is hard-core she won't expect you to.

The way I understand it, the term "prepago" came into use when cellphones became available in Colombia. Cellular service providers gave customer the choice between a plan where you pay every month (postpago), and a putting money on your phone only when you have cash and want to make a call (prepago). Colombians saw the similarity to relationships between men and women, where the man can enter a contract and pay every month (wife), or only pay and play when he has some cash.

If you are short on time and not interested in courtships, I wouldn't bother with SA or CC unless you are already a paid member. For quick one-time escorts try photoprepagos.com and co. mileroticos.com.

Is there an English button on these sites? And these girls will come to your room? Most of them say they have an incall.

[Woodman09]

3. For those who have been to Tijuana, how does the Santa Fe scene compare to the street girls in Tijuana's Zona Norte in terms of quantity, quality, and looks?

Thanks.

I used to go to Tijuana last time 2009, It is somewhat similar, SF is Way Better in terms of price, quantity and quality.

The street scene is 1000% better.

SF Club scene has 9 -10 clubs, last time I was in Tijuana there were 3-4? I have heard a session in Tijuana clubs nowadays is $50-$60+. SF Clubs are $16-$30+. SGs $8-$15+.

[Eszpresszo]

It depends which Colombia you have visited. The Tall Man has documented his travels all over the real Colombia, where people drink "tinto", a dark bitter hot caffeine drink which may remind you of coffee. Eszpresszo, it seems you have visited only the upper-class or gringo-Colombia, where people go to Juan Valdez to have espresso and cappucino.

There are gourmet coffee bars in the cities where they serve locally grown tasty coffee, but generally, coffee in Colombia is not superb. Then again, tinto is not so bad if you accept it for what it is.

You don't know me. You don't know where I've been or what coffee I've drank. But, for the record I've never been to any such place as "gringo-Colombia" and apparently neither have you. Its obvious you have never been to Colombia, so let me explain. Colombia does not get a lot of "gringo" visitors, plain and simple. I've run into exactly one American and a Canadian woman during my two entire visits to Colombian and that was on "La 70" in Medellin where nobody speaks English (even though it is a zone for travelers). If there is such a thing as "gringo-Colombia" then tell me where it is, so I can make a point of avoiding it. Every place I've stayed at Colombia was staffed by people who couldn't speak English, which is standard for just about every place in Colombia.

In every place I've visited in Colombia I was surrounded by Colombians and wherever I drank coffee, it was usually superb, regardless of the neighborhood. In fact, the best cup of coffee ever drank was a bowl of tinto served at the cafe just up the block from New Life, right on the corner. For you to say "coffee in Colombia is not superb" or "tinto is not so bad if you accept it for what it is" tells me you don't know your coffee, and you don't Colombia.

[ShadowJ]

Thanks for the reply, bro. Perfect!

You misunderstand. It does not mean that you literally have to pay her first. In fact, unless she is hard-core she won't expect you to.

The way I understand it, the term "prepago" came into use when cellphones became available in Colombia. Cellular service providers gave customer the choice between a plan where you pay every month (postpago), and a putting money on your phone only when you have cash and want to make a call (prepago). Colombians saw the similarity to relationships between men and women, where the man can enter a contract and pay every month (wife), or only pay and play when he has some cash.