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  1. #5063
    Quote Originally Posted by ACMilan84  [View Original Post]
    To answer your question without getting into the useless discussion below, I've had luck finding semi pros on SA, although not as much as in Mexico City or Lima. In Bogot a good share of chicas on the site (let's say 50% more or less) are hardened pros trying to get new clients at overrated prices (they are very easy to spot, especially if you speak good spanish), and another, I would say 20% are "legitimate" Sugar Babies, but among the remaining 30% there are many gems to be found; usually they are single mothers or university students but I've had more unusual encounters: for example a 25 yo engineer who is also part of Colombia's national team of a sport that I won't name for obvious reasons, or a chica of the same age who has an important job at an international construction firm who made business calls while we were cuddling in my bed, after action. The advantage -besides going out with normal girls and not prostitutes- is also that after meeting you and knowing that you're a gentleman, many of the chicas can give your contact to friends who need extra money, and the contact list can expand without using SA.

    Hope I was helpful, have fun!
    At ACMilan84,

    Interesting to read of your success on SA. The mention of SA in recent threads prompted me to search there. Just about every entry was of an almost model-caliber girl. Lots of requests for my private photos, lots 'favorited' me and sent me messages (which I can't open until I pay for a subscription). Too good to be true was my conclusion.

    Based on your experience, there must be a lot of chicas that consider the website to be more akin to one of the normal internet match sites.

    You said that it was easy to figure out who were the hardened pros looking for new clients could you tell from the photos or what in the exchange of messages let you figure them out? As the SA website is essentially intended to provide a P4P-type of arrangement, I'm not concerned about getting mixed up between a 'hardened pro' and a 'semi-pro'. But, I'd like not to waste my time with those with phony listings. (Or, worse, get scammed by one.).

  2. #5062
    Quote Originally Posted by ACMilan84  [View Original Post]
    To answer your question without getting into the useless discussion below, I've had luck finding semi pros on SA, although not as much as in Mexico City or Lima. In Bogot a good share of chicas on the site (let's say 50% more or less) are hardened pros trying to get new clients at overrated prices (they are very easy to spot, especially if you speak good spanish), and another, I would say 20% are "legitimate" Sugar Babies, but among the remaining 30% there are many gems to be found; usually they are single mothers or university students but I've had more unusual encounters: for example a 25 yo engineer who is also part of Colombia's national team of a sport that I won't name for obvious reasons, or a chica of the same age who has an important job at an international construction firm who made business calls while we were cuddling in my bed, after action. The advantage -besides going out with normal girls and not prostitutes- is also that after meeting you and knowing that you're a gentleman, many of the chicas can give your contact to friends who need extra money, and the contact list can expand without using SA.

    Hope I was helpful, have fun!
    Thanks AC. That was helpful.

  3. #5061
    Quote Originally Posted by Cm6363  [View Original Post]
    Is there a way to find semi-pros in Bogota? In Medellin, they're quite easy to find, but have not had similar luck in Bogota.

    If so, please share your sources. Are you using ColombianCupid? Facebook? Tinder? Or anything else?

    Thanks!
    To answer your question without getting into the useless discussion below, I've had luck finding semi pros on SA, although not as much as in Mexico City or Lima. In Bogot a good share of chicas on the site (let's say 50% more or less) are hardened pros trying to get new clients at overrated prices (they are very easy to spot, especially if you speak good spanish), and another, I would say 20% are "legitimate" Sugar Babies, but among the remaining 30% there are many gems to be found; usually they are single mothers or university students but I've had more unusual encounters: for example a 25 yo engineer who is also part of Colombia's national team of a sport that I won't name for obvious reasons, or a chica of the same age who has an important job at an international construction firm who made business calls while we were cuddling in my bed, after action. The advantage -besides going out with normal girls and not prostitutes- is also that after meeting you and knowing that you're a gentleman, many of the chicas can give your contact to friends who need extra money, and the contact list can expand without using SA.

    Hope I was helpful, have fun!

  4. #5060
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    He bothered because this is a fairly common perception. People find a girl, or group of girls on Facebook and assume they are "semi-pros. ".

    Saturday night I saw a group of Mansion girls working Parque Lleras. I saw several "Facebook" girls who I've also seen working the park.

    The lesson here is that there isn't any difference. I've had casa and massage parlor girls that rocked my world. I've had "semi-pros" who were were lousy. I've had both results from both categories. The only difference is, the "semi-pros" demand a lot more.
    I understand and do appreciate people think they are trying to be helpful. Yet from the beginning I realized this is a repeated topic for discussion and so I tried to head it off by saying what information I was looking for, not what constitutes a "semi-pro" or if there is such a thing.

    He even quoted my emphasis: "WITHOUT GETTING INTO ONE OF THE MANY EXTENDED DISCUSSIONS ON THIS BOARD (emphasis added), I would describe a Semi-Pro as. . . " so I'm not sure how much clearer I can be.

    Anyway thanks for the feedback and anything helpful members can provide about meeting ladies for discrete fun in Bogota.

  5. #5059
    Quote Originally Posted by Cm6363  [View Original Post]
    Perhaps you're right, but I'm not sure why your bothered answering.
    He bothered because this is a fairly common perception. People find a girl, or group of girls on Facebook and assume they are "semi-pros. ".

    Saturday night I saw a group of Mansion girls working Parque Lleras. I saw several "Facebook" girls who I've also seen working the park.

    The lesson here is that there isn't any difference. I've had casa and massage parlor girls that rocked my world. I've had "semi-pros" who were were lousy. I've had both results from both categories. The only difference is, the "semi-pros" demand a lot more.

  6. #5058
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    So where is the line drawn and how would you know for sure whether a girl is on one side or the other? If there are two chicks working at the Mansion and one gets 20 customers per week and the other only gets 5 customers, is the one that gets 5 customers a semi-pro?
    I don't draw a line, because I don't care.

    I don't think pro or semi-pro, I only care how I get along with the girl.

    Chemistry is everything, as you already know.

  7. #5057
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    But in order to tell you where to find what you are looking for, one has to understand what you are looking for. And what you say you are looking for makes no sense at all. I have seen tons of prostitutes in Colombia, but really gringos are few and far between. So if a chick is only waiting for a Gringo to roll into town and never fucking a Colombian, then this extra needed dinero must be needed next to never.

    As far as meeting a part-time hooker on a dating website, well even a chick looking for a steady boyfriend gets hundreds of messages (I have seen over 1000 messages in different non-hooker chicks' boxes with my own eyes), so someone who is trying to hoar themseleves out to get easy money is not just going to go pick one out of all the thousands once every six months when she needs extra money. She is going to get all she can out of it. When mfs find a gold mine they do not just take one small nugget home and return six months later to get another small nugget. They gather up as much as they can carry, go drop it off, and come back for more.

    This semi-prostitute term is some bullshit used by guys to fool themselves into believing the girl they are fucking for money is not doing it as often as someone who supposedly does it on a daily basis. When in fact a chick could sit up in a brothel and only get one customer in a week, whereas this supposedly part time chick is actually fucking three different customers everyday.

    I remember fucking a chick in a strip club in Medellin. Afterwards I went raving to my buddy that I was with how this chick knocked my socks off and was squirting all over the place like a madman. He went and tried the same chick a couple of months later and said his experience with her was shitty and nothing like I described. Hell, maybe I just happened to catch her on her horniest day. Whether you get a non-prostitute, semi-prostitue, or full blown prostitute, your mileage will always vary.
    Perhaps you're right, but I'm not sure why your bothered answering.

  8. #5056
    Quote Originally Posted by Cm6363  [View Original Post]
    With Facebook in Medellin, one girl's friends will lead you to a bunch of others. That requires a few ladies (or connected men) as a starting point. Any suggestions?
    And in a mongering facebook group that I am in you will see these same supposedly semi-pros in the friend's list of everyone in the group. To me, that says there is nothing semi about them.

  9. #5055
    Quote Originally Posted by Cm6363  [View Original Post]
    "WITHOUT GETTING INTO ONE OF THE MANY EXTENDED DISCUSSIONS ON THIS BOARD (emphasis added), I would described a Semi-Pro as a girl who is not working the brothels or Mileroticos, but rather doesn't mind hooking up with a gringo for extra needed dinero now and again. My experience is they are more relaxed, more interested in hanging and less "transactional" than pros.
    But in order to tell you where to find what you are looking for, one has to understand what you are looking for. And what you say you are looking for makes no sense at all. I have seen tons of prostitutes in Colombia, but really gringos are few and far between. So if a chick is only waiting for a Gringo to roll into town and never fucking a Colombian, then this extra needed dinero must be needed next to never.

    As far as meeting a part-time hooker on a dating website, well even a chick looking for a steady boyfriend gets hundreds of messages (I have seen over 1000 messages in different non-hooker chicks' boxes with my own eyes), so someone who is trying to hoar themseleves out to get easy money is not just going to go pick one out of all the thousands once every six months when she needs extra money. She is going to get all she can out of it. When mfs find a gold mine they do not just take one small nugget home and return six months later to get another small nugget. They gather up as much as they can carry, go drop it off, and come back for more.

    This semi-prostitute term is some bullshit used by guys to fool themselves into believing the girl they are fucking for money is not doing it as often as someone who supposedly does it on a daily basis. When in fact a chick could sit up in a brothel and only get one customer in a week, whereas this supposedly part time chick is actually fucking three different customers everyday.

    I remember fucking a chick in a strip club in Medellin. Afterwards I went raving to my buddy that I was with how this chick knocked my socks off and was squirting all over the place like a madman. He went and tried the same chick a couple of months later and said his experience with her was shitty and nothing like I described. Hell, maybe I just happened to catch her on her horniest day. Whether you get a non-prostitute, semi-prostitue, or full blown prostitute, your mileage will always vary.

  10. #5054
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    If you're saying the Mansion chicas are semi-pros...
    This is frustrating, but at least you tried to help. Thank you. Perhaps you missed this, "in Medellin, you might say the Mansion chicas are borderline, but many are just pros. " Ok, maybe this is my mistake in that most, if not essentially all, are pros.

    So no, I'm not looking for a girl from the clubs of the North of Bogota. Again, I would describe a Semi-Pro as a girl who is not working the brothels or Mileroticos. (Of course you may never know, but if you don't look in those places, your odds are much better.).

    With Facebook in Medellin, one girl's friends will lead you to a bunch of others. That requires a few ladies (or connected men) as a starting point. Any suggestions?

  11. #5053
    Quote Originally Posted by Cm6363  [View Original Post]
    In response to a post with a question, another question was posed what is a "semi-pro" and a brief answer was given, but the point of the original and subsequent posts was how to find ladies other than the Casas in Bogota. If you have anything to add on the main point, I would appreciate it. (Candidly, I'm not into a debate about "semi-pros.")

    "WITHOUT GETTING INTO ONE OF THE MANY EXTENDED DISCUSSIONS ON THIS BOARD (emphasis added), I would described a Semi-Pro as a girl who is not working the brothels or Mileroticos, but rather doesn't mind hooking up with a gringo for extra needed dinero now and again. My experience is they are more relaxed, more interested in hanging and less "transactional" than pros.

    In Medellin, you might say the Mansion chicas are borderline, but many are just pros.

    Re: Is there a way to find semi-pros in Bogota? In Medellin, they're quite easy to find, but have not had similar luck in Bogota.

    If so, please share your sources. Are you using ColombianCupid? Facebook? Tinder? Or anything else?

    Thanks!
    If you're saying the Mansion chicas are semi-pros, then just look for semi-pros in any of the north clubs in Bogota. The atmosphere is better and price is about the same. They might be borderline and many might just be pros.

    Plug into the Cupid sites and Seeking Arrangements, get on Tinder, try to connect with some Colombian girls on Facebook.

  12. #5052

    Finding ladies in Bogota question - not about what is a "Semi-Pro"

    In response to a post with a question, another question was posed what is a "semi-pro" and a brief answer was given, but the point of the original and subsequent posts was how to find ladies other than the Casas in Bogota. If you have anything to add on the main point, I would appreciate it. (Candidly, I'm not into a debate about "semi-pros.")

    "WITHOUT GETTING INTO ONE OF THE MANY EXTENDED DISCUSSIONS ON THIS BOARD (emphasis added), I would described a Semi-Pro as a girl who is not working the brothels or Mileroticos, but rather doesn't mind hooking up with a gringo for extra needed dinero now and again. My experience is they are more relaxed, more interested in hanging and less "transactional" than pros.

    In Medellin, you might say the Mansion chicas are borderline, but many are just pros.

    Re: Is there a way to find semi-pros in Bogota? In Medellin, they're quite easy to find, but have not had similar luck in Bogota.

    If so, please share your sources. Are you using ColombianCupid? Facebook? Tinder? Or anything else?

    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    So where is the line drawn and how would you know for sure whether a girl is on one side or the other? If there are two chicks working at the Mansion and one gets 20 customers per week and the other only gets 5 customers, is the one that gets 5 customers a semi-pro?

  13. #5051
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    The term semi-pro is thrown around, as a girl who is a pro, sometimes, with guys that she accepts. She's still a pro, just not as frequent.
    So where is the line drawn and how would you know for sure whether a girl is on one side or the other? If there are two chicks working at the Mansion and one gets 20 customers per week and the other only gets 5 customers, is the one that gets 5 customers a semi-pro?

  14. #5050
    Quote Originally Posted by Routard  [View Original Post]
    There are pros and regular girls in Bogota, nothing in between.
    The same as anywhere really.

    Bogotá, Medellín, Cali, wherever, there are pros and regular girls, nothing in between.

    The term semi-pro is thrown around, as a girl who is a pro, sometimes, with guys that she accepts.

    She's still a pro, just not as frequent.

    Bogota has them too, obviously.

    Bogota is no different than the other cities in that respect.

  15. #5049
    Quote Originally Posted by Cm6363  [View Original Post]
    Without getting into one of the many extended discussions on this board, I would described a Semi-Pro as a girl who is not working the brothels or Mileroticos, but rather doesn't mind hooking up with a gringo for extra needed dinero now and again. My experience is they are more relaxed, more interested in hanging and less "transactional" than pros.

    In Medellin, you might say the Mansion chicas are borderline, but many are just pros.

    Re: Is there a way to find semi-pros in Bogota? In Medellin, they're quite easy to find, but have not had similar luck in Bogota.

    If so, please share your sources. Are you using ColombianCupid? Facebook? Tinder? Or anything else?

    Thanks!
    The Mansion girls are absolutely not borderline. They are for the most part pros that started elsewhere (usually the casas) and moved on to make more money at the Mansion. It is rare to find a girl at the Mansion that hasn't been plied the trade somewhere else previously (although they may tell you otherwise).

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