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  1. #13538
    Quote Originally Posted by MsGuy88  [View Original Post]

    So, all that said, I hate to open my engagement here with a question rather than information (of the Bogota spas I do frequent, I am most fond of Sensity and Nanxing for selection, price, cleanliness and comfort. If that's any help) but here goes:

    Does anyone here have any experience with the swinger clubs? In particular the one hosted by Viviana Santamaria that are advertised on her Twitter feed. I am intrigued by them but would like to know some more before actually attending one. Thanks.
    I have been to the parties she hosted. The quality of women is low, most girls are in the 4/10 to 6/10 range. You won't find any stunners or young girls there. Probably around 5 girls total on a good night, and maybe 2-3 x the amount of men, so the ratio is not in your favor. The venue itself is located close to Chapinero and is basically an apartment on the second floor with a small bar, lounge zone and multiple bedrooms. Everything is covered for obvious reasons, and they do provide condoms. The entrance fee was about 50-70 k or so, not sure how much it is today. Her parties are definitely for open minded mongers, you have to be comfortable with seeing other dudes naked, or other dudes watching you having sex.

  2. #13537
    Quote Originally Posted by Showdown  [View Original Post]
    I personally found his tour to be beneficial when I did it. Regarding him trying to sell comic books-there are much worse things a man can sell or do. Can't we just be kind to each other as mongers? Just my. 02.

    Showdown.
    I also appreciated the tour as a first timer. Helped me settle down and then I chilled out on my own in SF for a few hours after. Didn't feel like he was trying to sell me, I only heard about the tour by word of mouth from other guys. Unless you have a wingman already, it's probably not the best as a gringo with poor Spanish to solo on my own.

  3. #13536
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    Hes clearly panicking LOL.

    SF and his income giving tours is dying.

    Let the dinosaur be lolol.

    But at least he has his comic books to tout.

    And thanks for the honest updates.

    So I can avoid a wasted visit!!
    I personally found his tour to be beneficial when I did it. Regarding him trying to sell comic books-there are much worse things a man can sell or do. Can't we just be kind to each other as mongers? Just my. 02.

    Showdown.

  4. #13535

    Lololol

    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    Ohhh Woody, LOL.

    I've been there enough. It's not rocket science.

    Anyway, enjoy yourself and the tours!
    Hes clearly panicking LOL.

    SF and his income giving tours is dying.

    Let the dinosaur be lolol.

    But at least he has his comic books to tout.

    And thanks for the honest updates.

    So I can avoid a wasted visit!!

  5. #13534
    Quote Originally Posted by HerryHot  [View Original Post]
    I used Uber to visit SF clubs it worked well for me even past midnight. Visited Pussy House on Wednesday night, it was depressing. Probably 2 or 3 average girls. Prices in Spa below seems high to me compared to casa options. Could not get a BBBJ in SF club, I did not press too hard though, considering the turnover there I thought covered BJ will be better anyways.

    HH.
    After my 1 and only Bogota visit this month, I'd say if you want a reliabl BBBJ with a hot chick I'd give the edge to Eroticas Bogota over the popular SF clubs. While I found a 9. 5/10 to my tastes in Troya and Atonis (the night one) I couldn't get BBBJ though I didn't push or want to splurge on only 1 girl in SF. My Eroticas girl was also a 9. 5, freshly showered groomed, with DFK included. It ends up being the same rate for the hour & you spare the SF scene if you don't want. Granted the online page can be shopped, however my girl went from a 8 on pics (with a mask) to 9. 5 in person.

    My next trip for a few days will be Eroticas girls during day, and SF at night. There were even some of the street girls in SF in those car garage looking casas that were 9's. Not many, there was 2 garages of them for only 1 hour before they disappeared. While pricier than the younger fresher street girls because of their "premium" price, the local guys steered clear from but I got a feeling I could talk them down 20% if I wanted a longer session.

  6. #13533

    Swinger Clubs

    Quote Originally Posted by TooDirty  [View Original Post]
    Routard has an excellent post updated in 2018 that has some info about the swinger scene http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...hlight=routard.

    Seems that the link to it via the reports of distinction isn't working for me though.
    I have seen the reports and they were excellent. They are now five years old. I am hoping for something more recent. Thanks.

    Last night I was in Santa Fe. As is often the case on Tuesdays, it was relatively slow. There were a number of, to me, attractive women in Troya. I had a dance (3 songs - 50 K) with a very nice one named Jenny who had just come off stage where she was very hot indeed. The dance was also very hot, she was very friendly, but I only had the dance. Medium-large enhanced breasts, long legs, a very nice wrap around tattoo, pretty face with a nice smile and glasses. I am a sucker for much of that. The other clubs were mostly pretty empty when I was there. Approximately 7:30-9:30 - which was early. I also had a good schwarma from Schwarma King. Just hailed a taxi to get home, which is what I generally do and have never had a problem with other than once when the driver tried to take me on a circuitous route. But I know the city well, so I set him to rights pretty quickly.

  7. #13532

    Look for posts from Routard

    Quote Originally Posted by MsGuy88  [View Original Post]
    Hello,

    Does anyone here have any experience with the swinger clubs? In particular the one hosted by Viviana Santamaria that are advertised on her Twitter feed. I am intrigued by them but would like to know some more before actually attending one. Thanks.
    Routard has an excellent post updated in 2018 that has some info about the swinger scene http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...hlight=routard.

    Seems that the link to it via the reports of distinction isn't working for me though.

  8. #13531

    Initial post; comment and question

    Hello,

    I have been lurking for quite some time and have found the website very useful. I spend about half the year in Colombia, mostly in Bogota. I have many years of experience in many other countries, especially Asia where I lived for 12 years and have traveled a great deal as well. Thanks everybody for the good information I have got here. I hope to be able to make a few contributions of my own from now on. To give you a sense of where I am coming from, my favorite places to engage in the activities that this website is about are, in a rough order that can change from day to day under different circumstances: Bogota, Bangkok, Jakarta Indonesia (although admittedly it's been a while since I've been there,) and Prague.

    In Bogota I very much enjoy nights in Santa Fe, although I don't usually partake there. It feels too rushed to me and at my advanced age I like to take my time. I tend to prefer the spas and meeting women in a variety of places to take out elsewhere. I also have a couple of regular girlfriends here so when I go to Santa Fe it is usually more to enjoy the atmosphere, some conversations, some lap dances and drinks and once in a while if I am overwhelmed with lust for a particular woman, I am known to succumb. I have never found Santa Fe to feel unsafe or intimidating, so long as I approached it with some basic street common sense. The bars and women there make their money from people who feel comfortable to come to the place and buy drinks and sex. They don't particularly want a lot of criminal activity that will scare customers away, and they are pretty good at providing that security. But if someone is stupid, there isn't much that anyone can do to protect people from themselves.

    My comment is regarding what seems to be some sort of ongoing rivalry as to what people have to say about Bogota vs Medellin. Things like that are not what I come here for. I come for information about particular places. I understand that all of us have different needs, desires, turn-ons, etc. And so it is very difficult to generalize or even draw reasonable comparisons from one place to the other. When I go to the Bogota thread, it is to learn about Bogota, not to read a lot of toing and froing and even insults regarding what other places may or may not be better. If I am given the facts, I can draw my own conclusions, or go to different places to find out for myself.

    So, all that said, I hate to open my engagement here with a question rather than information (of the Bogota spas I do frequent, I am most fond of Sensity and Nanxing for selection, price, cleanliness and comfort. If that's any help) but here goes:

    Does anyone here have any experience with the swinger clubs? In particular the one hosted by Viviana Santamaria that are advertised on her Twitter feed. I am intrigued by them but would like to know some more before actually attending one. Thanks.

  9. #13530
    I used Uber to visit SF clubs it worked well for me even past midnight. Visited Pussy House on Wednesday night, it was depressing. Probably 2 or 3 average girls. Prices in Spa below seems high to me compared to casa options. Could not get a BBBJ in SF club, I did not press too hard though, considering the turnover there I thought covered BJ will be better anyways.

    HH.

    Quote Originally Posted by PussyRiot  [View Original Post]
    Visited Bogota in recent months and finally writing the trip report.

    Been to Medellin and Cali on a regular basis but whatever reason, never been to Bogota so hope it helps any newbies.

    Weather- Cloudy on most days but wasn't too bad. Just need a light jacket at night.

    Airport- Official taxi line was insanely busy and ended up using the Uber. Read a few reports that Uber wasn't an option but they pick you up at departure area on the second floor and works very well.

    North Clubs- Was highly disappointed. The price is high and girls do not look good at all. Most of clubs visited were empty and charged Heineken beer 60 k even menu shows 50 k. Just got the vibes that they wanted to upcharge the gringo so never session.

    Mezzanine- Asking price 180-200 k with average looking girls. There is Dann Carlton hotel down the street and check out a massage parlor right across street which had some decent girls and cheaper at 150 k.

    Abejitas- 190 k and only two girls available when visited. The girls were wearing professional massage uniforms which hide the body lines. Wouldn't recommend and place smell like vinegar.

    Absolut spa- Was my favorite spot. The girls have silicone look similar to Loutron in Medellin. The price was 320 k or 350 k room with shower. Everything was covered and girls offer BBBJ for stupid extra money which I didn't partake.

    Loutron- When visited in December, price was 370 k but now 450 K? Not sure if they are related to one in Medellin but the girls look horrible. Maybe it was too early in the afternoon but visited twice and the selection was bad both times.

    Pussy House- Visited original location back in December and new location this time around. New location is very nice and spacious but hardly any girls are there. Visited Friday and Saturday night.

    La Forty Nine- Apparently, the owner of this club went to prison so clubs is closed. There is a club right next door but it's not worthy.

    Nanxing Spa- Very nice room with shower. There were many girls available but didn't see any stunners. The price is 330 k.

    Divas Spa- 150 k and girls looked rough.

    Sensity Spa- 200 k and many girls on line-up and they have more like next door look.

    Santa Fe- Took me by surprise how good some girls looked in the clubs (again, l like silicone look). Did not partake in the street girls and just hung out in the clubs. Many advised that picking up the Uber is an issue later at night but didn't have much issue getting the ride back to the hotel which was located by Parque 93. Is this place kind of dodgy? Yes but not as bad as you think. Noticed it is bit of challenge to have the girls agree to BBBJ and CIM but kind of understand why since girls take many clients. And, saw some girls that I have been with other Colombian cities which was kind of funny.

    Custom tailor suit- There are quite a few custom tailor suit stores in Parque 93 neighborhood and 3-piece suit cost around $600 USD which was amazing.

    Final thought- Liked the city and felt safe just walking around. The city is very trendy and different vibe than Medellin. Just wish there were more options for nighttime since most of clubs in North have closed down. As other member mentioned, BBBJ not being standard service like Brazil is annoying. Would give the city another try but will need to search more for new places and options.

  10. #13529
    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    Funny how you left out the bit about Medellin Being the Most Dangerous city for tourists -.

    2 poor guys scoped and died in 2022 -- RIP.
    Funny how you always do mention it, LOL.

    We all know how you make money doing SF Tours.

    That's great!

    Happy for you.

    I wasn't really comparing Medellin vs Bogota.

    Just giving my personal report of how SF sucked on Friday and Saturday night recently, and how lots of girls have told me that they've abandoned Bogota for where the money is these days; Medellin and Cartagena.

    I wasn't comparing crime statistics.

    That's your schtick LOL.

    You'll write me off as blah blah again.
    That’s your game.

    No one can write a negative report of SF without you crying and spouting it as the best mongering spot on the planet.

    Anyone with half a brain can figure out that your posts have a profit motive for Woody Woodman. You.

    Unbiased reports are welcome.

    Your propaganda and the belittling of others who dare to make real reports of SF are tiresome.

    Good luck dude. Just give it a rest.

  11. #13528
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Don't know where your hotel was, but had you used Indriver it more than likely would have been 20 K or under.
    Rates from airport seem to be based on the zone. It was 35 K to the area around Zona T. Because of the time of day I'm sure it would have been a lot more with Uber or other online services. Took well over an hour.

  12. #13527
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Nah, because their job is to get money out of you any way they can. The crazy thing is dudes that take on hookers as serious mates when there are millions of chicks available that are not hookers.
    Most of the time gringos who can't speak Spanish fluently have no other options.

    They're most likely going to surround themselves with girls who have some sort of history with prostitution.

    If you can't speak Spanish at least to a conversational level the "normal" girls, especially the attractive ones will not have the patience to sit there and try to have a relationship with you and google translate.

    The difference it makes is like night and day.

  13. #13526
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGault  [View Original Post]
    Last time I was in BOG the airport people wanted 75 K to take me to my hotel in SF. I went outside the airport and got a taxi for 30 K.
    Don't know where your hotel was, but had you used Indriver it more than likely would have been 20 K or under.
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  14. #13525
    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    Funny how you left out the bit about Medellin Being the Most Dangerous city for tourists -.

    2 poor guys scoped and died in 2022 -- RIP.
    My anecdotal research says that more tourists go to Medellin to engage in risky behavior than go to Bogota. More tourists putting themselves in dangerous situations = more tourists falling victim.

    Cartagena gets the most tourists, but it has a lot of draws more popular than P4P.

    Bogota is next, but it also has other attractions. As the capitol a lot of business travelers are always coming through. Then there are the museums. Other than Santa Fe, newbies looking for pussy have less obvious choices and the majority of the obvious choices are in house. You go to short time rooms, or rooms in the clubs. There are casas, massage parlors and the mezzanines. Most of the easy access mongering goes on in places where they can't rob you, other than overcharging, shorting time or some casual pickpocketing.

    Medellin has a lot to see, but search for best places to find pussy in Colombia and Medellin tops the list. And that's where guys get in trouble. Once the little head starts making decisions, bad things happen.

    In addition, Medellin is possibly the largest point and click sex destination in the world. Almost all are girls who come to your place, creating an ideal opportunity for drugging and robbing mongers.

    Bogota is where you set up shop. The tours you give are a nice bonus to your income, plus you meet a lot of people, which is usually beneficial. Of course, for guys intimidated by the streets of Santa Fe, and they can be intimidating, you provide a feeling of security. I've done the same showing people El Centro.

    Other guys prefer other cities and their reasons are just as valid as your reasons to prefer Bogota.

  15. #13524

    Another Airport ripoff.

    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1  [View Original Post]
    I usually have my regular driver pick me up but if I need a taxi I exit the baggage area, turn left go upstairs and grab a taxi dropping off a passenger. No wait, the meter price is usually pretty good, better than the predetermined price in the Airport line outside of baggage.
    Last time I was in BOG the airport people wanted 75 K to take me to my hotel in SF. I went outside the airport and got a taxi for 30 K.

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