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  1. #102
    Gidday Antifreeze,

    I'll try to be in Cali around the 20th June.

    I havn't booked any hotel yet and probley wont untill I arrive in the city, the Lonley Planet travel book that I'm reading recommends a few places.

    I think what I'll do is just walk the streets at first, a bit of shopping, visit a few night spots ect

    I think also I'll try a get a english speaking guide for a few days to show me around and introduce me to a few people.

    What do you think antifreeze, do you think this is the way to go !!

    Regards,

    Aussie.

    QUOTE]Originally posted by antifreeze
    I am from the North. The North and the south are almost 2 different cities for those who do not know. North is relatively residential and has la Avenida Sexta that is the nightlife magnet of Cali. I don't know much the south. It is like an untouched jewel that I discover little by little.

    Flores frescas is for turists. Do not waist too much of your money there. Cover charge is extremely high and women quality is not better than other places. That is my point of view of course and some disagree.

    Stay away from Juanchito, that place is just full of bandits. As a matter of fact, the first week I came to Cali, we went there with my wife and sister in law. And some bandit stole our car... Needless to say that they won't see me again there.

    I am sure that you know panamajack not to pay for an agency from outside Cali. Wait to come here and meet the owner and ask for a 1-2 week price instead of a lifetime membership that will cost you an arm and not have a duration from even a fly's lifetime...

    Enjoy Cali!
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  2. #101
    I am from the North. The North and the south are almost 2 different cities for those who do not know. North is relatively residential and has la Avenida Sexta that is the nightlife magnet of Cali. I don't know much the south. It is like an untouched jewel that I discover little by little.

    Flores frescas is for turists. Do not waist too much of your money there. Cover charge is extremely high and women quality is not better than other places. That is my point of view of course and some disagree.

    Stay away from Juanchito, that place is just full of bandits. As a matter of fact, the first week I came to Cali, we went there with my wife and sister in law. And some bandit stole our car... Needless to say that they won't see me again there.

    I am sure that you know panamajack not to pay for an agency from outside Cali. Wait to come here and meet the owner and ask for a 1-2 week price instead of a lifetime membership that will cost you an arm and not have a duration from even a fly's lifetime...

    Enjoy Cali!

  3. #100
    Hey Antifreeze,


    Can I ask you a question? What part of Cali do you stay in, How is the situation in the city as we speak. I'm definetly going to Cali this summer but I'm going to be on my own. I have some friends in Cali but I met them throught my exgirlfriend and I really don't even want her to know in going to be their. Also know some caleņas but I want something new, I might try a marriage agency. Any recommendations?

    Also have you been to FLORESFRESCAS, is it still expensive? the last time I went there cover was 96.000 colombian pesos but if I'm not mistaken the most beatiful working girl in Cali. Hey also Juanchito have you gotten a chance to go? its a bit rundown but on weekend full of females pros. and semipros.

    One thing that [CodeWord140] me off about Cali is that there is alot of counterfit colombian pesos circulating, be careful don't exchange large bills with taxi driver they got me that way [CodeWord140] me off. The colombians can tell right away if is counterfit but my stupid ass couln't tell the difference, oh well you win some you lose some just be careful. Cali to me is still that unforbitten fruit, deadly but oh so intoxicating, happy hunting guys..............
    Last edited by PanamaJack; 05-10-03 at 07:05.

  4. #99
    Still discovering underground Cali. I tried to get away from closed houses and give a try to other more bars type places. The result is so-so.

    First, I've been at a nudist billard (women are nude, you keep your clothes). Women are good looking and playing pool with a nude woman is a pretty special experience. There is a cover charge of 3000 pesos ($1USD). The address is Carrera 28 #6-37. It is pretty close Roosevelt blvd in the south of Cali. Bottom line is that it is a special experience, but your left to jerk off when you've accumulated enough sexual pressure. Since I personaly do not like to see a nude woman that I can't touch, I will stay away from there. I did ask if one could go to a room, but never got a straight answer. So, I just left, most probably forever.

    Later in the week, I've been to a place called Cristal Club (Calle 13 #72-25). This place is full of georgious women. There are times in your life when you meet a woman that is just too good to be true. There was one of those there. She had an ass that one could follow to Hell and boobs that just were the incarnation of perfection. I had to get to a room with her, and we did. What a fuckin crappy attitude she had. First, no conversation what so ever. Then, once in the room, showers (that's actually OK) and then goes ahead and puts 2 condom on my dick (not even erected). Turnas around and starts doing it. At one point I asked her to turn around and she said no, she prefers it that way. I wanted the view if I didn't had the experience. She was the hell of a ***** like I have not seen many times in my life. I didn't do what I came there to do and just left her with her attitude. The south seems to have more beautiful women because of the presence of Universities. They are hard working women paying for their studies. Up north, the only things there are are closed houses, so it's pretty difficult to find new ones unless they advertise in the local newspaper (a lot of them are advertised - but many more are not).

  5. #98
    Good morning Antifreeze,

    Thanks for the quick reply.

    I will digest what you write and get back to you in a few days but I think your right, take a year.

    All the best, take it easy !!

    Regards,

    Aussie.

    Originally posted by antifreeze
    Gidday Aussie,

    I hope that is all true: well it is... You are welcome to read everyone else's reports, Cali is a special place for inner and outher beauty.

    Are you asking for too much with the de4scription that you posted: not at all! One of the things that surprised me the most out of Cali is that there is something for everyone. It is not like Brazil where it seems pretty difficult to get a serious wife down there (could be wrong, haven't been there myself but heard many reports from close friends).

    In Cali, if you want a one night stand, you'll get it in a heartbeat. But really the Calena is looking for a serious guy to settle down. Even the prostitutes that I use from time to time they're all for settling down and I am of those who believe that they are not worst human beings because of their profession.

    Shall you find a georgious woman in Cali, there is a good chance that you won't have to be affraid about her sleeping around all your life. I married one of those beauties too that one thinks is too good for yourself. She ended up an exceptional wife and even better mother. Sleeping around is something I do (with working women only - no girlfriends allowed) to keep my lower brain busy and is not in response to any void with my wife.

    So go ahead and come down here. You should be hapilly surprised. There are some girls that you want to stay away from though. I think the following criterias are important:

    1) The girsl that wants to get out of Colombia, whatever the price (and with whoever). She'll use you and throw you away when you'll have met your purpose. I've seen more relations fail with those kind of girls than any else.
    2) Too much age difference and situation difference. Don't forget that if a girl is 30 down here, she probably still live with her mom and dad. They have a lot to learn when they hit the real life. Depending if you want to care for her or a team mate that actually supports you, you may want to look at that criteria.
    3) English: all women will say that they speak English. But it's bullshit, they really don't. If you have the language barrier and the culture barrier, that accumulates. If you can at least drop the language barrier from there, then you're working towards a better chance of getting things right.

    Bottom line, I think, is that if you find a girl that you feel good with and that cries because she doesn't want to leave Colombia and just does it because she likes you, then you hit the jack pot. Take a year to enjoy her and make sure there's no hidden defects and then start producing kids to do us all a favor.

  6. #97
    Gidday Aussie,

    I hope that is all true: well it is... You are welcome to read everyone else's reports, Cali is a special place for inner and outher beauty.

    Are you asking for too much with the de4scription that you posted: not at all! One of the things that surprised me the most out of Cali is that there is something for everyone. It is not like Brazil where it seems pretty difficult to get a serious wife down there (could be wrong, haven't been there myself but heard many reports from close friends).

    In Cali, if you want a one night stand, you'll get it in a heartbeat. But really the Calena is looking for a serious guy to settle down. Even the prostitutes that I use from time to time they're all for settling down and I am of those who believe that they are not worst human beings because of their profession.

    Shall you find a georgious woman in Cali, there is a good chance that you won't have to be affraid about her sleeping around all your life. I married one of those beauties too that one thinks is too good for yourself. She ended up an exceptional wife and even better mother. Sleeping around is something I do (with working women only - no girlfriends allowed) to keep my lower brain busy and is not in response to any void with my wife.

    So go ahead and come down here. You should be hapilly surprised. There are some girls that you want to stay away from though. I think the following criterias are important:

    1) The girsl that wants to get out of Colombia, whatever the price (and with whoever). She'll use you and throw you away when you'll have met your purpose. I've seen more relations fail with those kind of girls than any else.
    2) Too much age difference and situation difference. Don't forget that if a girl is 30 down here, she probably still live with her mom and dad. They have a lot to learn when they hit the real life. Depending if you want to care for her or a team mate that actually supports you, you may want to look at that criteria.
    3) English: all women will say that they speak English. But it's bullshit, they really don't. If you have the language barrier and the culture barrier, that accumulates. If you can at least drop the language barrier from there, then you're working towards a better chance of getting things right.

    Bottom line, I think, is that if you find a girl that you feel good with and that cries because she doesn't want to leave Colombia and just does it because she likes you, then you hit the jack pot. Take a year to enjoy her and make sure there's no hidden defects and then start producing kids to do us all a favor.

  7. #96
    Gidday antifreeze,

    Great post Freeze, I hope it is true.

    I'm coming to South America the end of June and was just going to Rio, SP and BA in Arg but now after your post I'm coming to Cali.

    In 1995 I met this girl in Hong Kong and we hit it of and she said she came from Cali and the most beautifull girls come from Cali in all South America, I beleived her then and after your post it just confirms it.

    Alot of water has pasted under the bridge with me since 1995 with me mate.

    I'm not into the all night, every night with a different girl thing, been there and done that, I just want to settle down and start a breeding program ( yes I'm a farmer !! )

    Mate if you can help me, I'm looking for a girl;

    18 to 25 years of age,
    5'8'' and taller,
    Very slim with very long hair,
    Drop dead gorgeous who dresses to kill !!.
    Education, Doctor, Nurse, Veterinaryian, Accountant ect.
    Olive complection with lighter skin.
    Some english but not important.

    Freeze, what do you think mate ?. Am I asking for to much ?
    Any help would be great if you can.

    All the best, regards

    Aussie Greg.

    Originally posted by antifreeze
    We had a party on Saturday with my wife's extended family. First, let me know that Colombians know how to party (at least they know how to start it, but need to be reminded by foreigners like me how to end the thing at 4 AM).

    There was some of her cousins in there. Got in their inner circle when they were talking among themselves. Georgious babes! One of them was talking about the fact that she consulted a psychic in order to get advice on how to get a man (not even an husband, just a man). And she looks fabulous. I know her and know that she is quality material. Another one, she's a bomb, looks terrific, has boobs that make you go at the plastic surgeon and ask to get a hand operation to get bigger hands to handle those boobs. She states that it's been almost one year without a boyfriend or nothing. She doesn't like to go out so doesn't meet many people. And, she's a doctor with a real job! What a frickin catch. My sister in law (twin sister of my wife) is saving money for a boob job. Once again, quite a catch. Problem with those type of people, which I believe are the real people one wants to meet in Cali, is that they rarely go outside of the family. It's pretty difficult for foreigners to get to know them since they'll never have any context where to meet them. There is one thing that they had in commun, they were all talking that they were going at an agency the following week. So, agencies I guess are a good magnet for nice candidates. Here's a note on that though. Should you meet someone special there, you'll be forced to rush yourself into marriage if you want something out of it. Knowing that you're a foreigner, you'll probably won't have sex before marriage (or really little of it), and for the purpose of paperwork, you'll need to provide your girl a status to bring her back to whereever.

    Other than that, I still enjoy the scene down here. I had a terrific 20 years old this weekend. God she was good. And we just stayed in bed and chated for almost an hour. It's funny that even prostitutes seem never to have been fucked once in their lives. That is, I take my time, and I let them enjoy themselves as much as I do. But then, they look at you as if it was the first time that they were ever fucked well in their life. They don't want you to go and ask for more. That one I had this weekend after I got done once, asked me to stay, and jumped on me after another half hour. She then told me that it has been a long time for her... I don't know where Colombians guys are or what they are doing, but WOW, Cali is quite an experience. Today, I'll go and see a nude billiard. It's a billiard where women are all nude. May or may not be good (women could be horrible). I will try to post results. There is another place like that up north that is just a bar though. Female are all nude and you can sip a beer. Welcome to planet Cali...

  8. #95
    Hey antifreeeze, I want to meet the Doctor (tell her I am a lawyer in California who LOVES big boobed Latinas!). Seriously, thinking of going to Cali in two weeks but do NOT want to join a marriage agency. I can email her my picture and a description if you'll be so kind as to email me her email address. My Spanish is pretty decent so language is no barrier.

    Also, if you need anything brought down to you from the US let me know. Please email me at XTNSurfer@hotmail.com. Hope to hear from you. (Check Brasil & Indonesia folders for my prior reports on WSG if interested in verifying that I am a contributor, not a taker).

  9. #94
    We had a party on Saturday with my wife's extended family. First, let me know that Colombians know how to party (at least they know how to start it, but need to be reminded by foreigners like me how to end the thing at 4 AM).

    There was some of her cousins in there. Got in their inner circle when they were talking among themselves. Georgious babes! One of them was talking about the fact that she consulted a psychic in order to get advice on how to get a man (not even an husband, just a man). And she looks fabulous. I know her and know that she is quality material. Another one, she's a bomb, looks terrific, has boobs that make you go at the plastic surgeon and ask to get a hand operation to get bigger hands to handle those boobs. She states that it's been almost one year without a boyfriend or nothing. She doesn't like to go out so doesn't meet many people. And, she's a doctor with a real job! What a frickin catch. My sister in law (twin sister of my wife) is saving money for a boob job. Once again, quite a catch. Problem with those type of people, which I believe are the real people one wants to meet in Cali, is that they rarely go outside of the family. It's pretty difficult for foreigners to get to know them since they'll never have any context where to meet them. There is one thing that they had in commun, they were all talking that they were going at an agency the following week. So, agencies I guess are a good magnet for nice candidates. Here's a note on that though. Should you meet someone special there, you'll be forced to rush yourself into marriage if you want something out of it. Knowing that you're a foreigner, you'll probably won't have sex before marriage (or really little of it), and for the purpose of paperwork, you'll need to provide your girl a status to bring her back to whereever.

    Other than that, I still enjoy the scene down here. I had a terrific 20 years old this weekend. God she was good. And we just stayed in bed and chated for almost an hour. It's funny that even prostitutes seem never to have been fucked once in their lives. That is, I take my time, and I let them enjoy themselves as much as I do. But then, they look at you as if it was the first time that they were ever fucked well in their life. They don't want you to go and ask for more. That one I had this weekend after I got done once, asked me to stay, and jumped on me after another half hour. She then told me that it has been a long time for her... I don't know where Colombians guys are or what they are doing, but WOW, Cali is quite an experience. Today, I'll go and see a nude billiard. It's a billiard where women are all nude. May or may not be good (women could be horrible). I will try to post results. There is another place like that up north that is just a bar though. Female are all nude and you can sip a beer. Welcome to planet Cali...

  10. #93
    Great post Antifreeze! I've gotten the opportunity to travel to Cali several times once for a period of 3 month last year, I had a girlfriend that I met in Panama, she was from Cali blew me away until I set foot in Cali and saw so many females that looked as good or even better than my girl and like my girl friendly and approchable. I enjoyed Cali so much, I didn't want to leave when it came time for me to go back to the states. Almost got married in Cali but I was fucking around so much behind my girlfriend back that at one point she found out that I had fucked her cousin, its increadible all of her female cousins are so fucking beautiful and all of them treated me like a GOD, I often wonder if I could live in Cali. When I was in Cali I rented a aparthotel in a great neighborhood, it was right across the street from the casino of the intercontinental hotel, the name of the place was Rayda nice apartments it cost me 275 a month great service anything I wanted they would get, female friendly, cleaned my room every day even did my laundry, matter of fact the owner offer to sell me an apartment, about two blocks from Escocia a bar full of pros. a great place to pick up females. I truly miss Cali, I'm in the planning stage of relocating to Panama. I might consider buying a apartment in Cali since I'm going to be so close, good luck Antifreeze.
    Last edited by PanamaJack; 04-30-03 at 07:23.

  11. #92
    EXCELLENT post, Antifreeze! I've been to Cali several times and dated a chica there for a time. I agree with everything you say. Calinas are quite special and I'd also have to mention that the chicas of Medellin are wonderful as well. The P4P scene is better in Cali, though IMHO....

  12. #91
    one of the reason why 'la semana santa' sucks so much is because their religion prevent them from opening their legs during that week. it's a bit special, but i spoke about that to a couple of ladies and they do follow that rule. that is, during the entire week they do not have sex. so the availability of ladies goes down dramaticaly and the ones that are available is not really that much of an experience. i'd believe that xmas will be different since it is the time of the year where they get wild during la feria.

    here's a quick note about ladies in colombia. it is so much of a change from the us that it is just plain incredible that it is on the same planet. the ladies that you will meet in closed houses are extremely decent persons that, most of them, ended there by a series of misfortune of life. i met one which lost her husband in a moto accident (motorcycle is extremely dangerous here) and is left alone to take care of her kid. so she does that because she has to. there are many like that. the bottom line is that for a cali woman to prostitute herself, she needs less of a rupture with herself than for anywhere else i know. that is, sex is good and fun for them, and they do not throw this in the back alley of their mind. so, when times are difficult, they fall back on that. i met a lot of them that are student and do this part time in order to continue studying. treat them with respect since they are respectful person that handle their responsibilities what ever the price. showing them respect will often result in getting some extra on the job.

    as for the women that are not in closed houses, it is also impressive. they are almost full time in the business of attracting men. they spend a fortune on clothes. they'll go ahead and get a boob job or fix anything that will end up giving them an advantage to get a man. i know many of my wife's friends that got boob and or nose jobs and are just drop dead georgious. i often walk on the street and cross a georgious woman that will look at me directly in my eyes (in the us she would probably spit her gum under my shoes before looking away really fast). i am so unused to this that i am the one looking away when that happens. silly me! i guess i'll need some time to get used to that. bottom line is that you are not a threat to them here, you are a treat. they will not only give you the time of the day, but will also give you all her time from her day.

    personally, i don't want a mistress. but i could easily get one. getting a mistress to me is the worst cheating one could do to her wife. getting a working woman doesn't involve feelings other that pure copulation. but a mistress is more of a complete relationship that i wouldn't allow. at one point, you begin to care more about one than the other, and then you're the only one to suffer. one thing that my wife can't offer me is diversity. she can't change ass or boob every week. with prositutes, i get that. with a mistress, i am left with the same void...

    so. there is a bit of everything for everyone in here. living in cali is a blast. cost of living is low, infrastructure is great (high speed internet, reliable electricity and more), and life is just more complete than in the boring states of america.

  13. #90
    I was in Cali last year right before XMas. It was a blast, lots of fiestas on Avenida Sexta. I remember meeting a lot of chicas visiting from other cities in Colombia for the Cali Festival ... think it's spelled the 'ferria'.
    Good time to be there. PFP scene was good too that week.
    Easter week is different. It's the 'semana santa' which is more tranquilo.
    Buenas Suerte.

  14. #89
    Anybody know how the pay-for-sex scene in Cali is during Christmas week? Unfortunately that is the only week I'll be there this year. As Antifreeze pointed out, Easter week was pretty dead. I'm sure hoping Christmas week is better.

  15. #88
    A lot of places are closed during holly week. I found one that is opened: Avenida Roosvelt 37-11.

    Enjoy!

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