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  1. #773
    MASTER MONGER

    Reading your report I conclude that you are full of an insecurity that I find quite befuddling. You say:

    <<<<<"I just want to make sure you have the right idea about me. I would love to hook up sometime and prove it to you.">>>>>

    Don't be so anxious. Just develop value and the right people will see it.

    Saint developed value not because of his claims of being a great lover, but because he writes information packed posts that are quite entertaining, even when they don't include "mongering bits." That's what makes Saint a valuable poster.

    I am willing to endure your insecurities (Who amongst us doesn't have some?) but, buddy, write what you want but don't misunderstand the stituation. I will find you a valuable poster based on the information that you provide and not based on whether you prove to me that you are the "player of players."

    I hope you bought Footprint's Colombia Handbook.

    Ferolga

  2. #772
    I prefer to call you Travieso (I find the handle "master monger" WAY pretentious):

    I use most of your methods as well but am ALWAYS game for learning new techniques. Hopefully we can compare notes/tactics soon as I should be back in paradise in mid-October. DO send me an email to XTNSurfer@hotmail.com

    Regarding the cash exchange thing, you are hosed. NOWHERE will give you anything close to the Oanda rate (predicated on trades of 1 million greenbacks which I DOUBT you will be exchanging into CP even if you had that many greenbacks with you). Some here find it "off topic", but as LOCAL RESIDENT antifreeze confirms, ATM withdrawls get best rate but shop around for ATMs with 400K limit (some are as low as 200K).

    Regarding the restaurant, it is a no brainer: Cali Viejo (near the Parque Zoologico). While there are no prices on the menu (ALWAYS scary), cost is SURPRISINGLY reasonable for very good, tradional, food plus unequalled ambience (in an old hacienda with the staff dressed in antique costumes). Fashion photographers use at as a backdrop and many wedding receptions are held up there. Terrific place that, surprisingly, many locals have never even heard of.

  3. #771
    That explains it. I've been using the rough side of my tongue all this time....

  4. #770
    gentlemen,

    ok, saint used to be, and i repeat, used to be my idol, but someone told me he drops about $300 a day on chicas and gives them champagne and chocolate and then tips them like half of what he paid in the first place. this is why he talks little about the prices he pays. if you need to shower them with money then well, you need to shower them with money. i personally donīt need too, i posted before that on four occassions i got girls for free out of the del rey which is full of sharks, but i have a silver tongue and eyes that put them in a spell (thank you, god).

    speaking of florida, if you read my posts in the past you would know i have a house in chicago, wisconsin near minneapolis, and a house in florida near tampa, and when i am in florida i never pay for girls, in fact i told everyone about a foursome i had with three girls in florida, i have the video with me if we hook up. surfer i like your posts and i think you have the right idea about women, i just want to make sure you have the right idea about me. i would love to hook up sometime and prove it to you. i posted before what is most important to women, and of course if you really want to make them happy make them cum.

    how to make a girl cum by travieso (master monger)

    1.) watch them masterbate for a minute and then repeat the process, starting at the top of the vagina to increase bloodflow while massaging breast with other hand, then move slowly down to clitoris always in a circular motion, some girl like you to enter there vagina briefly every minute or so. most important, keep rythym (spelling??) at internet cafe, no spell check.

    2.) get into missionary position but donīt enter without a condom. promise the girl you wonīt enter and to trust you because you want to rub on her vagina with your penis, rub your head up and down on the vagina with sometimes rubbing the bottom of you penis over her clitoris. within a few seconds she will start to respond and you will think she is faking it, shes not, keep this up getting feed back from her while doing a thrusting motion with your body and breathing sexy in her ear, and she will cum.

    3.) lick the clitoris and use the fingers in a Ļcome hereĻmotion, with sometimes sucking the clitoris in your mouth and swishing it around. something i forgot before is a girl must get wet before she cums, very wet, so i know this is gross but constantly drewl (spelling) spit into her vagina. expose the clitoris with the other hand so you can get a better lick on it and try not to use the top (rough) side of your tongue too much, but more the side or bottom or even your the inside of your lip. donīt forget to stimulate the nipples every once and awhile.

    4.) enter with your penis, every guy is different sized so i am only saying what works for me. make sure she is very wet before entering, enter starting slow and speed up a little to a nice constant rythym. now comes the magic, in missionary enter deep so your pelvis rubs against her clitoris and make your body convulse a little as it hits the clitoris, breath in her ear (make sure you have fresh breath) i go through a bottle of binaca every 3 days. if the vagina is too big (you can buy something called tight stuff ($10) it is a jelly that makes any vagina tighter in about 5 minutes) otherwise wrap your arm around her leg and push up on your penis under your ball sack and it will hit her g-spot more. also in this position you can stimulate a girls asshole or squeeze her asscheeks, it all depends on the girl what she likes or needs.

    5.) anal is also another way, but the girl has to be used to it and very comfortable with lots of lube and you must squeeze their asses in a rythymic motion. i am not into it but some girls love it.

    6.) if nothing else has worked, forget your ego and go out and buy a dildo. i have one that cost $65 and it is awesome, it is called like the pearl of the sea or something. anyway,it has a clitoris stimulator that vibrates, then the head does small circles, and the bottom of the shaft spins with these pearls, and it has a lame little ass stimulator. bottomline is you just insert in and within 5 minutes about 90% of all women cum. women often forget sex unless they came and they donīt remeber how they came.

    i have other ways but they involve more in depth descriptions and diagrams.

    nicoleīs real name is diana, she is sitting over my shoulder right now but doesnīt understand english. tonight we are going to have a threesome with her friend, for free.

    ok,

    please someone help me....

    where can i exchange dollars? the international rate according to www.oanda.com is 2648 pesos to 1 dollar but every place is at like 2300...wtf i donīt understand, where can i get the international rate. or even frickin close.

    where is a good restaurant in cali that isnīt crazy ass expensive?

    please guys if you know the answer to these questions let me know.

    thanks in advance,

    p.s. nicole/diana was (no longer) working at lubricantes jc just down the street from farahon, 30,000 for half hour in house or 50,000 for an hour or 60,000 in you place for half hour or 100,000 for an hour, or 200,000 for 3 hours in your place. now she lives with me in grenada in my kickass apartment.

    master monger (travieso)

  5. #769
    BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    Good one Saint, I was thinking the same thing.

  6. #768
    Surfer

    I must confess that whenever I read Master Mongers posts, I read them outloud, in a booming voice, fists on my hip. (Oh, well.)

    But, hopefully his posts will get better. With more useful information.

    Ferolga

  7. #767
    Please donīt underestimate my skills, I have never met ANYONE who gets more free pussy than me.

    Not even Saint? LOL

    You make some good points, Nicole is cute, and you write well, but could you tone down the narcisissism just a little bit? Even saint, who I view as quite full of himself, never made any statement nearly as outlandish as yours which I copied above.

    If you were such a stud muffin then they should be paying you, no? And why go to Cali; if you have such Game Miami has more lookers than Cali, Rio or ANYWHERE in the World (but the hotties are MUCH harder to tap, of course).

  8. #766
    Master Monger

    Great report. Looking forward to more reports on you.

    Cheerio,
    Ferolga777

  9. #765
    Yo Master, way to go with Nicole, she's such a hottie... smokes a little to much for my taste, but I love spinners and her body is rockstar, and she's fun to party with, and she's a sweetie when she wants to be.

    I hear she's not Kaliente any longer, but is now working at a different house, care to share which one?

    I love Cali too, I'll look you up next time I'm in town.

  10. #764
    Dear Fellow Mongers,

    First,

    Let me just say, I have more game than Parker Brothers, I call my kiss, ĻThe Moses KissĻ because when I give it to a girl her legs spread like the Red Sea.

    In my defense, I talked with that girl the first night from Kaliente for 15 minutes in Spanish clarifying exactly what I wanted long before I left with her. I have never had a problem similar to this one because I talk alot. When I went to Kaliente I went with another guy from Hostal San Fernando when they quoted me 200,000 for three hours I told them they were crazy and I walked out because they wouldnīt come down on the price.
    We then went to another place and I was quoted the same price. So I lied and said I could get it cheaper at Kaliente and they said then go to Kaliente, all of this in Spanish. So I went back to Kaliente and when I post the pictures of the girl you will know why. It was late at night, we had been to two places before Kaliente and the girl was hot, as well as me and my friend thought she really liked me. She was from the Kaliente in Pereira, Colombia and was only in Cali for a few days so I rushed it. Please donīt underestimate my skills, I have never met ANYONE who gets more free pussy than me.

    Second,

    Cali is AWESOME, so far on this trip I have been to Costa Rica (2 months), Nicaragu (10 Days), Panama (6 Days) and although Nicaragua is cheaper for everything including women, Cali is much more of a Mongering paradise for a Monger with game.
    I have been in Cali four days now, the first day sucked because I got bad service, but now I know Cali is the best place I have been in Latin America. I have a kick ass apartment on the 8th floor of an incredible building including everthing, kinda like a hotel with maid and laundry for $600 a month with an awesome view, hot water, ac, and completely furnished with two full bathrooms and free phone calls.
    I also am on my second free girlfriend in 4 days with the one I am with now being a very hot girl the Saint was with when he was in Cali. Here is his pic because I have to wait to get back to the States to download all of mine. Anyone who wants to go out sometime PM me. She is living with me and is free, free, free, she has never asked for gifts either, but she does like to have sex about 5 times a day.

    Via La Cali,

    Ciao,

    Travieso
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  11. #763
    Master Monger

    The best advice has been given by the real "masters" Surfer and Rigo and Frijole.

    Something I have learned that really works is to have chocolate and other candies at the apartment. And cold water in a bottle. The savvy girls are afraid of getting drugged.


    At the point that she refused to do something you lost her, nothing to be done. If you go and complain to her pimp what do you expect will happen? I have to kiss tons of ass and negotiate many barriers before I get the girls to say, "You are not an asshole like so many are."

    And sometimes I forget that I have to kiss her ass and be charming and I behave like an asshole with the girl. Invariably the girl walks away or gives me the shitiest sex possible.


    It's amazing but women like to think that they are beautiful and worth loving. Who knew?

    Ciao
    Ferolga

  12. #762
    Poobah,

    What is the name of the girl you posted a photo of 8/26? If its who I think it is, I have her photos too.

  13. #761
    Hey Sufer,

    I will have to give MM a break on paying 150 for 3 hours at Kaliente. I have been there several times In the last year and a half, and I have never been able to get it any cheaper there either. If I remeber correctly its something like 100,000 an hour in house or for three hours out of the house its 150,000.

    At first I thought it was just because I was a gringo, but I argued with the boss there for at least a good 45 minutes ( and my spanish is pretty good) but he kept saying the prices were fixed there. So then the next night a Colombian buddy of mine went in there by himself to see if he could get it cheaper but he was always quoted the same prices and said they wont negotiate.

  14. #760
    "Thus, it seems some recent tourist have been over paying. Thanks @#$%&*!!!!. Please use the board and try not to give these gals the impression that all gringos are idiots. "

    This is EXACTLY why I am averse to sharing specific casa locations in Cali here. I constantly strive to find the proper balance between sharing freely (which is my nature/preference) and not enabling more sex tourists to ruin the place by acting like ugly.rich Americans.

    YMMV is ALWAYS the rule, of course, and I believe that the savvy, bilingual, hobbyiest can still experience Cali like it was. Going back in a few weeks and will get out and about at least a couple times (going primarily to see 2 nonpros and to hang with a longtime cyberfriend who was kind enough to gift me a mileage award as a way of saying thanks for assistance rendered over the years.)

    Mastermonger: IMHO, you erred in several respects. First, you chose based on looks rather than attitude/chemistry which is ALWAYS risky; Second, you paid for 3 hours upfront apparently-a rookie mistake if ever there was one )agree to pay ST rates then negotiate for LT AFTER you are sure she will perform as she promised in the club; Third, and most important, NEVER initiate a confrontation in Colombia. Like Rigo and the others told you, is $70 worth ending up in a ditch? Get vtough with CDolombians and you will lose EVERY time-you lket your machismo get the better of your good judgment. Plus she gave you one shot so it wasn't like she was a total ROB.

    I also think she took you for a clueless tourist when you agreed to pay 200K for 3 hours (I have never paid 200K in Colombia even for STELLAR overnighters). You may be a "master" monger, but you acted like a Colombia novice. Cali is even more YMMV than most places, and it is NOT all about the $$$. If you charm them, in Spanish, and lead them to think you'll give them BFE (Colombianas are more prone to giving GFE than most nationalities but ONLY if they like you!).

    This is not meant as a flame of MM, but rather a SUGGESTION FOR ALL that no matter how much a guy has mongered elsewhere, if you stroll around Cali waving your cock around like the Big Man on Campus somebody will humble you.

  15. #759
    Hey All

    Just got back from Cali. I had a great time and a special thanks to the folks at Hostal San Fernando.

    Here is a list of some places I went to (YMMV):

    1. Cra. 23 #9e-91 Barrio Bretena, 80k per hour to take out, 50k if in-house. The gals at this place were all between 20-30 years old. Most were Fat and not very attractive. They had about 10 gals.

    2. Dream Girls (that's the name on the card), Cra 44 #5B 79 Barrio Tequendama. They charge $40k per hour. I went there on a Monday and they only had one gal. According to the manager they usually have about 10 gals but, for some reason they only had 1 that night.

    3. Cra.28 #6-37, They had about 15 gals all naked. They have two pool tables and a few chairs. they charge $25k per hour.

    4. Cra. 30A #7-73 Barrio El Cedro, they had about 10-12 gals all over 25 yrs old. they charge 40k per hour or 30k per half, 20k for 15min., all prices are for on site services. I did not ask about take-out.

    5. Cra 50 #10-31 Barrio Villa Depal, they have about 15+ gals all about mid to late 20's and a few early 30's, not my thing, but they charge 40k per hour and 30k per half.

    6. Cra 40 #9-14, they had 12 gals all of various ages (8 ugly, 3 normal, and 1 hot). They charge 40k per hour for in-house services.

    7. Crystal Club Calle 13 #72-25, they have about 30-35 gals most are in their late 20's early 30s. Sorry, I did not get prices.

    8. Amores Club, 3a. Norte No. 47CN-12, open 7 days a week services range from 20k to 60k depending on services and time requested. The night i went there they only had about 8 gals all between 20-25 years old. Feel free to visit this fine establishment.


    Ofcourse, I also went to some old favorites (Flores Frescas, Kaliente, ect). But I was shocked when old Evelyn and some other gal I had poked on a prior trip asked me and my pal for $200k per hour. The last time I was in Cali I paid only 100k for an hour (the hour starting upon entering my hotel room). Thus, it seems some recent tourist have been over paying. Thanks @#$%&*!!!!. Please use the board and try not to give these gals the impression that all gringos are idiots.

    P.S.
    MonsterMonger,

    I've had good and not so good luck with Kaliente(Calle 25 #2 Bis-47, Barrio San Vicente) girls in the past. Some gals are just plain cunts. All you can do is move on. I had a gal from Kaliente on a prior trip do the same to me. When she said "no mas" I started to laugh and I thought...fn @#$%^&. What can you do. Unfortunately, Rigo is right about Cali. No amount is worth putting yourself at risk. Its been my xperience that most houses are controlled by local thugs thus, its best to either get the word out about the gal so others know not to use her services or to find a new location to spend your time and $$. Best of Luck and I hope your trip gets better.

    ***Look at some of my old posts on Cali for other locations.

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