Cali Reports

[Polvo]

.....The most expensive pussy is the "free" pussy.......

Last time I checked there was no such thing as a free lunch either!! What is the world coming to?

Polvo

[MiamiHeatLuver]

if you look at it in terms of $$$ $1300 for 21/2 years of sex, its a great deal but if it were me the first time she asked for $$$ she would have seen my "skid marks" from me peeling out! lol my novia is self supportive and would get insulted if i sent her money, but i do bring her nice gifts though, so we all pay for it somehow! one way or another! peace "chino"

now you have me worried. the most expensive pussy is the "free" pussy. one of the chicas that i am currently dating never asked for a peso for the first year. of course i paid for dinners and transportation. then a family problem cost me over a million pesos. about six months later she needed a million to catch up on her bills. about 2 1/2 years in, it has cost around 3 million total. i am not complaining, she is great. her idea of a good time is whatever makes me happy. she wants more sex than i do. every time we have sex, we start with a half-hour blow job. but it ain't free.

if i pay by the piece, i know what it is going to cost.

[Tom 33]

Tourists yes, but SEX tourists no.

What is wrong with sex tourists? Isn't that kind of what this board is about? There certainly are assholes among sex tourists. But there are asshole travelers and asshole Colombians as well. I just try to avoid the assholes.

I have met many sex tourists and have many of them as friends. Even some of the assholes who post on ISG are good guys(me excluded).

[Tom 33]

"...most girls give it away it keeps the prices in check!"

Now you have me worried. The most expensive pussy is the "free" pussy. One of the chicas that I am currently dating never asked for a peso for the first year. Of course I paid for dinners and transportation. Then a family problem cost me over a million pesos. About six months later she needed a million to catch up on her bills. About 2 1/2 years in, it has cost around 3 million total. I am not complaining, she is great. Her idea of a good time is whatever makes me happy. She wants more sex than I do. Every time we have sex, we start with a half-hour blow job. But it ain't free.

If I pay by the piece, I know what it is going to cost.

[Surfer]

Tom33,
Normally no, but you have grown on me lately. We get far more Gringos and other tourists then your beloved CTG, but because most girls give it away it keeps the prices in check!

LB

Tourists yes, but SEX tourists no. I think more gringos go to CTG these days seeking sex than go to Lima for that purpose. IMHO Lima gets more diverse types of travelers but not that many going specicifically for sex (unlike CTG) ,

[Lima Busy]

Better watch it. You don't want my kind of ugly Gringo in Peru.

You are piquing my interest.

Tom33,
Normally no, but you have grown on me lately. We get far more Gringos and other tourists then your beloved CTG, but because most girls give it away it keeps the prices in check!

LB

[Tom 33]

Better watch it. You don't want my kind of ugly Gringo in Peru.

You are piquing my interest.

[Lima Busy]

Ricker,

I have been living in Peru for the last 7 months or so, and I am seriously considering moving to Medellin for extended period of time, perhaps a few years. I'm not so much interested in P4P scene, but I would like to know how the non-pro action is in Medellin. I'm a gringo in my early 30's, my spanish is so so, but getting better everyday, Coming from Peru, where it is easy to hookup with non-pros anywhere you go, would it be that in Medellin as well. I've heard some stories where many have the colombian chicas are a bit snobbish, You seem like you know Colombia pretty well, whats your opinion on this? Thanks!

VDM

Voodooman,
You should talk to Screwedup about this(expert on both locales). Most of us (living in Lima) already know the answer.

Helpful hint on MDE!
Before going put all the clothes and money you are planning to take on the bed in front of you. Now, remove half the clothes and add twice the money!

LB

[VoodooMan]

Ricker,

I have been living in Peru for the last 7 months or so, and I am seriously considering moving to Medellin for extended period of time, perhaps a few years. I'm not so much interested in P4P scene, but I would like to know how the non-pro action is in Medellin. I'm a gringo in my early 30's, my spanish is so so, but getting better everyday, Coming from Peru, where it is easy to hookup with non-pros anywhere you go, would it be that in Medellin as well. I've heard some stories where many have the colombian chicas are a bit snobbish, You seem like you know Colombia pretty well, whats your opinion on this? Thanks!

VDM

[Ricker]

I've been visiting Cali and Medellin very regularly for years also ... except for a short time-out in Venezuela.

Venezuela is a different deal ... and has changed for the worse recently (political / crime / etc) ... can be discussed in that section.

As far as Cali vs Medellin for Gringos ... Medellin, as a whole, has Cali beat by a mile. As Gringo Loco and others have said before.

From the climate, to the cleanliness / organization of the city, the nice Metro system, the better PFP options, the Medellin Mansion and other clubs like it, the lighter skin, euro-looking Paisias that guys like, etc, etc.
Medellin wins hands-down.
Especially including the increased crime / danger in Cali as opposed to Medellin.

What Rob Hay is referring to is the difference in basic attitude / culture in Cali.
Don't get me wrong, Paisas, the people of Medellin, are very nice and courteous people in general.
Obviously the girls are beautiful too.

In Cali though, there is more of a happy-go-lucky attitude in general ... the Calenos and the Calenas (guys and girls).

I enjoy Cali for it's people ... but for a Gringo going on vacation to enjoy Colombia ... Cartagena for the guys that like the coast and mucho PFP ... and Medellin for the guys to enjoy a nice city, nice people with beautiful chicas and good PFP.
For first timers or guys that dig convenience, places like the Medellin Mansion are perfect.

Suerte!

[Rob Hay]

[QUOTE=Cachorro]It's nothing particular about Cali, you just happen to have better contacts in that city. The same thing can be done anywhere in Colombia. If you visited Cali for a week without those contacts, you'd be back to square one.


I completely agree and that why I'm glad i did my hw and talked to the right people prior to coming down there. I think Calenas are easier to meet and get to know, and bed than Paisas. At least that is my experience.......i never gotten laid that easily in Medellin. And the dangers of Caracas just makes it too dangerous to hang out these days.

I was going to make this trip 2 weeks in Cali and 3 in Medellin but I like this place alot so I'm just gonna stay put.

Surfer, Sorry to have overhyped this place to everyone but in my opin i dont think this place is going to ever going to be completely overun by gringos. Alot of guys come with the attitude that if you buy a non pro 10 an ice cream she gonna bang, then get pissed out when it doesnt happen and complain how in Rio girls are all over them. Then they spend the rest of their trip in a hole in a wall casa. Well these guys go home angry and spreads the word to their friends how much Cali sucks. So the way i see it there will be less gringos here not more.

GL is right being American only gives an edge...you still have to work for it and no question, for ever phone number i get with these guys we get rejected about 5 times so its still work and a bit surprising at first but anyone that doesnt mind rejection will be sucessful here.

[Gringo Loco]

Let's not forget that Colombia is not The DR or Costa Rica. Intractable, long term problems do exist. Violence, crime, panhandlers and filfth are all part of the experience, especially in Cali. Sure, we can go down and monger for a few weeks and most likely not get shot or kidnapped by the FARC. The greatest annoyance will no doubt be the everpresent overeager panhandlers. A few coins and they're on their way. But one must be alert at all times. Don't get hammered and stagger home alone. Don't accept everything at face value. Keep alert.

Between Cali and Medellin, Medellin hands down is the way nicer city. It's cleaner, better organized, more modern with a state of the art 10 year old metro system. Not to say that Medellin is problem free. Just like Cali, there are high and low end barrios. The pay for play scene is better developed in Medellin. In Cali it's largely hit or miss. Despite Cali's shortcomings, I've now got some friends there and chicas that I can call when I roll into town. That's a huge plus for me.

Cuba is actually my favorite hunting grounds for non-pro chicas. I've been there several times over the last 3 years. As long as you avoid the tourist centers of Havana, the pickings are unbelievably easy. Forget the 2 date rule (as is my experience in Colombia). It's 2 hours. But after playing cat and mouse with US Customs and dealing with the lack of infrastructure there, I've moved on.

In Cuba I feel invincible, like a rock star. There's almost no girl that I want that I won't get. In Colombia not so. I simply feel like a guy with an edge. Certainly not every chica that I hit on is going to give me her number. And just getting the number doesn't mean that I'll get in her pants. I've still got to work it. Set up the date, wine, dine, drink, dance, blah blah blah. Weed out the whackjobs and golddiggers in the process. Generally don't have too spend much money, but it's an investment of time and the opportunity cost of that time when I've only got two and half weeks of it. Just a guy with an edge. But I'll take that edge. Shit yeah.

I had some drinks one night with AntiFreeze and his lovely novia. He introduced me to the infamous Screwed Up (quite a character), who made some comparisons between Colombia and Peru. In Colombia, single women almost never go out alone but usually in groups of mixed company, guys and chicas, and in most clubs eveybody sits at tables as opposed to walking around. Hard to tell if they're alone or not without directly approaching the table, which might be a risky proposition. In Peru not so. Single women out alone and in groups of just chicas making their availability more obvious. And the two date rule need not always apply. He did say that the percentage of really hot girls is far greater in Colombia than in Peru, but we don't fuck percentages do we? It also narrows down the selection process. So, next stop: Cali or Lima?

[Gringo Loco]

Friday, 4 August 2006 BBC News

Car bomb kills five in Colombia

The blast left a crater in the road and damaged nearby vehicles
A car bomb has exploded outside a police station in the Colombian city of Cali, killing at least five people. Four of the dead are police officers; the fifth is said to be the driver. No-one has admitted responsibility.

The attack comes three days before President Alvaro Uribe - known for his hard line against left-wing rebels - is due to be sworn in for a second term.

Colombia has seen decades of fighting among rebels, right-wing paramilitaries and state forces.

Friday's bomb reportedly exploded as the car passed in front of a police station in the El Vallado neighbourhood in the east of the city - Colombia's second largest.

The blast produced a column of smoke which rose above Cali, the Associated Press news agency reported.

Several people injured in the blast - including four police officers - were taken to hospital, Efe news agency reported.

El Valle state Governor Angelino Garzon told a local radio station he blamed leftist rebel group the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Farc) for the "terrorist" attack.

[Cachorro]

The only thing i am wondering as I am here is why i havent been here sooner....the non pro action is alive and hopping...much better than Caracas and Medellin combined.

It's nothing particular about Cali, you just happen to have better contacts in that city. The same thing can be done anywhere in Colombia. If you visited Cali for a week without those contacts, you'd be back to square one.

Its no surprise Colombians think all Americans are so cheap.

I disagree with that generalisation, and I think most Colombians also would. Usually you'll hear the opposite.

Glad you're enjoying your trip!

[Surfer]

AA loses LOTS of bags too and unlike in the US, they do NOT deliver them to your hotel (you must go back to the friggin airport!)

Glad you are enjoying Cali, but think about the effect of overhyping it (I speak from experience I am embarassed to say). 130K per hour for an indie is STILL over the market in Cali no matter how hot she is IMHO.

You comments about all the douchbag americans show how much things have changed in 3 years because it used to be if you avoided Flores Frescas and the Intercontiental hotel, you'd NEVER see Americans. ):