Cali Reports

[Dickfer]

Found this place while looking around for some action on sunday with a cabbie. Near Torre Poblado. Around 5 chicas at 1pm on sunday, quality 3-5 range. I think it was 40k for an hour but I asked for bbbj and paid 10k more. There is a small shower in the room but no hot water. They give you a small towel which is not white anymore due to years of use.

[Kdog]

Surfer, I think M is in Palmira now, but my memory is foggy. The last time I heard something about her was during my March visit.

iamlookin, I gave Pharohs a shot too. I was very diappointed with the quality, then the waiter charged me 14 mil for a mixed drink and I got the hell out of there. It took me 10 minutes to get a taxi (11:00PM) and when one finally pulled over, a gorgeous babe got out. She proceeded to go into Pharohs. I felt a bit silly following her in, because I was clearly about to get in her taxi, so I decided to go to the club next door to Pharohs for a while (don't remember the name).

That club was an absolute dump. Not only were the women ugly, but they were aggressive, rude, demanding, etc. I ordered a beer there and just wanted to finish it before leaving, so I ended up sititng there for a few minutes. I guess the women were pissed that I was sitting there alone and didn't want to give any of them attention. One of the uglist women came over and started putting her hands all over me (going for my wallet??). Another one asked for a cigarette and proceeded to hand the remaining cigs to her friends. I was really freaked out by all this because it seemed more like Tijuana than Cali. I got the heck out of there and forget completely about the beauty next door that I was planning on visiting. I just shows you how screwed up my visits to Cali are getting.

BTW, anyone else notice how beautiful women in the Colombian airports are? No matter how bad my trips go, I'm always left with a good impression and a desire to return after seeing these women on my way home. So I will be back to Colombia, but probably not Cali for a while.

[IamLookin]

I was in Colombia just about 2 weeks ago and went to Flores Frescas because it was near my hotel. I agree that it is definetly over price for Cali
and would probably not return unless I was short on time and it was close by.
I did see some very good looking women and had a 1/2 hour session for 120K which I know is overpriced. I would recommend going to Pharohs instead near Torre de Cali. It was I believe 5mil to get in and I got the 20minute session with a knockout blonde for 35K. Women quality are about the same and there are lesbian shows as well.

[Surfer]

The price has almost doubled (it was 100K when I first went in 2003), but as you know Freeze and I never liked it as much as you did even when the price was reasonable (although there were some real hotties there as you note-did you see M working there by chance?)

I think this decline of quality to value at FF is just one more brick in the wall of the degradation of Colombian mongering due to the inexorable increase in the magnitude of the gringo invasion. I know I sound like a broken record, and of course there are still some good chicas and casas, but getting GFE for a reasonable price appears to be getting more and more difficult.

I agree with the other poster about the quality of the rooms too (I did it onsite ONCE then learned to have the chicas come to my hotel after work when I took a fancy to an FF chica. Obviously not all of them will go for that (you need to use some charm in addition to the promise of payment).

[Sky Dog]

I visited Flores Frescas a few years back. There were several hotties, but the place was dark and dirty. There was a good lesbien show at midnight. I took a tall slim girl into a room for 120K. The room was dirty, the bed was dirty and the shower was cold. Fortunately the girl gave great service. While I was f@#&king the girl, other girls kept coming in and out of the room. I have not been back. I will not return, unless other mongers post improving conditions there.

Sky Dog

[Kdog]

I was just in Cali a few days ago and made my usual stop at the declining Flores Frescas. I would say the last 5 times I visited, I was more disappointed each time. My last visit was unreal. The cover charge (15 mil) and high drink charges were always way too high for Cali, but I put up with it before because there were always some sweet and beautiful women hanging around.
Now, the price for one hour with a girl in the room is 190 mil AND, this is the worst part, 4 out of 5 of the girls lied about this and asked for 240 mil. When I confronted them on this price, several got really nasty with me and stormed away. When I told Fabio, the honest and helpful waiter, he was furious with the women and got the manager. He asked me to repeat my story to him. When I did, I knew two things, 1. some of these women were in some trouble, 2. I probably would not be able to return, even if I wanted, for a very long time. The women remember things like this for a long time.

A previous poster commented on the Colombian women not liking cheap men and I find this to be very true for the working women. Well, I guess logically all working women don't like cheap men due to the nature of their business, but the Colombian are not shy about letting you know. BTW, the one girl who quoted the correct price was one of the best looking ones: Bridgette.

Anyway, if you do go to Flores Frescas, be very careful about what you pay and who you go with. Many of these girls are long-time pros who don't give a crap about you and will try to milk you out of every penny you have.

Surfer, Antifreeze, and Willy, were right about this place...it just took me a little longer to figure it out!

[MiamiHeatLuver]

I'm going down Monday the 17th for 2 maybe 3 weeks! Gonna really desfruta! , if you wanna, gonna rent a chiva on Friday come along its gonna be a ball, pm me with your colombia cell! My best bro from ny is gonna come Thursday as well!

Peace "Chino"

[Ricker]

Hey Miami Heat ... I'm heading down again tomorrow ... cuando te vas a ir?

I hate guides. Get a good taxista and you're in.

Suerte!

[Rob Hay]

Thats great if you'll be around..... Let me know what the situation is when you go down. I'll be in touch

[Surfer]

My Brother Bill mispoke a bit, I think: NEVERV pay the Chulo because he hits the chica up for his 20% AFTERWARDS. I like Gustavo, and have known him for yearrs, but his salary is shit so he counts on "tips". That being said, t do not let him (or anybody else) try and double dip. NEVER! THE CHICA PAYS FOR THE REFERRAL, NOT YOU.

The more clueless gringos who fall for this type of stuff, the more BS. Like the friggin guest charge BS at Don Jaime. How many guests did we have in and out of there with no charge Bill? I won't stay there again, and if all mongers boycotted the MFs they'd reconsider that attempt to fleece the foreigners.

Then there are the streetwalkers asking 60K or more per hour, the English speaking panhandlers and . . . .I better stop.

For a wingman type Andres is the guy. Gustavo is married and does not cruise and Ramon is OLD. Andres is young and suave. Nice guy too (though I never need a wingman in Cali). Not sure how to contact him.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Hey Rob,

$Bill is a good guy and probably the only monger that I have actually met and had the pleasure of having a drink together. He is the only guy who has actually met my novia. Rob, i know Bill doesnt like this guy but there's this guy who sells flowers on the street named MIKE, who speaks perfect english! I know he can introduce you to some hot chicas because ive seen it with my own eyes on a number of occassions, He and Ramon where always in competition for the Chicas, but obviously hes gonna get some type of kickback, but I dont know how much or what %. I'll do some research when I go down next Monday and I possibly might spend an EXTRA week and leave the 8th of August so we might cross paths a few days.

Good Luck! "Chino"

[Rob Hay]

Oh great...so this guy doesn't know many hotties and is not even a good wingman at a club? I'm looking for an aggressive type not afraid to approach chicks, Andreas does not sound like the type. Well its too bad about Ramon. Do you have Gustavos' contact info by any chance? Please pm.

Thanks to all who can help....a few rounds on me if i see you down there

[Dollar Bill]

I think Andres as a person is a GREAT guy, but as a guide, he is a bit lazy. He has in the past, with me, just hung around all day looking for a free meal/drink.

If you do not know Cali, then he is good to know (just to get the lay of the land). Once that is done, then it is often just him hanging out with you and hitting your minibar.

I paid for him and Ramon to get hookers and have a little party with me and my chica. Ramon got himself some lovin, but even after paying for a girl to be with him, Andres still could not get the job done. He was much more shy about this than Ramon. Ramon is very outgoing, Andres is not.

Gustavo (from Hotel Don Jaime) knows alot of chicas and can probably help you out.

All of these guys from Cali just want to make some cash. They are tired of guys know paying for their services so they are demanding the money upfront.

$Bill

[John05]

Hmmmm. "you'd better be willing to buy these girl anything they want anytime they want it." We call those girls "gold diggers." You can find beautiful girls in any country if you pay lots of money. I also know some bar girls in Bangkok who will call you a "cheap charlie" if you do not spends lots of money on them.

At $60 per day you probably should go to the marriage agencies as they will give you unlimited introductions for close to that price. In most of the ISG posts guys usually say that the Colombian girls are not too demanding. I suppose that there are the usual suspects who want to be pampered with tons of cash. Avoid them... unless you have many millions of dollars.

[Rob Hay]

Since my last post someone put me in touch with Andres who i promptly called and am having a hard time believing what he told me. He charges $60/ day for introductions or 10/hr, not including food and drinks for him during the course of the day. And he wants to set me up in an apartment Torres de Granada for $700/month. Additional he told me that latin girls hate cheap guys, which i am taking as meaning you'd better be willing to buy these girl anything they want anytime they want it.

Personally I'm shocked anyone would have the balls to quote that type of money....But let me not jump to the conclusion that paying anyone this type of money in a 3rd world country is ridiculous.......just yet.

Can I get the opinion of people who have actually used Andreas' services before as to what exactly one gets in return??? Is there any value....even just a little bit in his service. Now he has told me people have retained him months at a time so know there are at least a few of you guys who really like him.

But still I curious to know what you get:
Is this the biggest and best apartment complex in Cali?
Are you meeting the hottest models in the city?
ect???