Cali Reports

[Antifreeze]

Bill,

Thanks for the information. It may have been useful 1 life ago (before I got married). Although being pensioned at 35 wouldn't be bad, I still need to work a bit to live.

Take care,

Freeze

[Happy C]

Freeze,

You can also set up a subsidary US company in Colombia and get a residency permit as the indivdual who is going to run the company in Colombia. If you don't have a company buy a shell or register a company in the Bahamas or some other tax free island like St Martin, Caymans etc. that wll also work. You need a Job letter in Spanish, Police record translated into Spanish and a filled in application form. Takes about 3-5 days to get this permit. I am sorry to others if this is off topic. ho's find them fork them and forget them "my new motto"

Happy C

[Happy C]

Hey Bill,

Thanks for your report.

I find it interesting that they are many girls that are poor but they don't ho. I think the ones that do ho may be deperate but you are right, its diffcult to change a person with no self respect. I think once a ho always a ho, does not matter what country you're in. I have meet very deperate girls in Colombia that even speak English that have had no work for several years, and I allways wonder why they did not go into the profession. The other issue is deattachment from these woman. What a wonderful characteristic to have, I must say I suffer in this department I am sucker because I always believe in people, until I find out different. Its easy to spot golddiggers but there are a lot of very smart woman that use reverse physciology and these woman are much harder to read. I almost married a 'bad' girl and I feel for your friend. I hope he knows what he's doing. Have a great weekend and be happy I know I am going to Summer time here in the north.

Happy C

[Bill12]

Freeze,

You don't even have to get married down there, though it isn't a bad idea! Many people apply for a type of visa that allows you to live there. I think it is called a pensioners visa or something like that. With the right amount of income and/or assets, it's easy to get the visa.

Bill

[Antifreeze]

Happy C,

The Entire sentence that you refer to reads as the following: "The typical Colombian man is an idiot that I get to understand more over the years living here."

It should maybe have read more like: "The typical Colombian man is an idiot that I get to be more like over the years while living here."

The fact on the matter, is that although I can't forget about my son, if I could redo my life in the Colombian environment, I would not get married (or get married for the papers - pay a girl 100.000 pesos per month to get married to me and then leave me alone with my visa that allows me to stay in Colombia without restrictions).

I would then be able to play the game like they do.

Take care,

Freeze

[Bill12]

HappyC,

You have just hit upon the age old history of the species! That men want variety and will pay for it, and women want security and will charge for it! Men want hotter chicks and women want guys with more to offer. It is a wonder the institution of marriage even exists in this environment. Wait, it is almost defunct anyway!

Anyway, yes, you are right that there are some girls that are being "kept" by more than one American guy. But guys make their choice in this matter and volunteer to do it. I have friends who meet some lady but don't want her up here...either because he's married, or because of the visa hassles, or because he doesn't want to subject her to the wolves and feminists up here. So he "keeps" her down there. If she strays, it's his own fault. One way to limit this is to meet a "good" girl and not a pro.

By the way, it does happen with Colombian men who are involved with women a lot, because the Colombian men don't give her enough to live on, they only give her small amounts, so she needs to find other contacts.

So I guess you can either play this game...or just rent them and forget them! I must admit my upbringing makes this hard to do. I always think the best of people. I always think I can change them. And in Colombia, where most of them are just doing it out of desperation, it is such a different situation than here. I even have a friend who is marrying a "bad" girl from down there.

[Happy C]

Antifresse you wrote:

The typical Colombian man is an idiot. I don't think so I think we are idots at least I am I have fallen for scams and have been played by Colombian women that I thought I was going to get married to. I think these men are pretty smart because they practice the three F's Find, Fork and Forget. They even forget their own children. How is this biologicaly possible to have a kid and have no contact with the child. These guys are cold. I wish I could be like that.

Bill,

Thanks for your comments.

I guess the men are decitful don't you think the woman are equally decitful. They would drop your ass for more $$ in a new york minute or maybe just add you to their list of suckers. I understand that a lot Colombian woman have several men taking care of them does anyone have any experience with this and when the guy finds out how do you deal with this. Chalk it up as experience. I am tried of having these experiences (Ha Ha)

Happy C

[Bill12]

Happy C,

Good question. Let my try and address it, and add to what Freeze said. First, Colombian men are not the most faithful people in the world. Neither would I be if I lived there! They are famous for just having girlfriends, or having a wife and then having girlfriends on the side. Secondly, some men have a lot of money, but very few in the whole scheme of things. And the middle class is small, yet growing. So in a land where there are so many great looking women, there really aren't enough "good" men to go around! Add to that that many many of the working girls have kids, and trust me, no Colombiano wants to marry a woman with kids.

I know you are shocked why they have to do such work. So was I. But when you consider the above factors AND the fact that finding a job in Colombia is hard, and even when they do it doesn't pay much, I guess that sums up why it is such a crazy situation down there.

Many times I have thought that I wanted to take one of them home, and I think most of them would jump at the chance, but I would have major qualms about bringing a 10 back to my city, if you know what I mean! But that's another topic! I have heard of several guys "keeping" a woman down there, but that too is another subject!

Ciao,

Bill

(By the way, if anyone is interested, I have a ton of frequent flyer miles leftover from my business flying. It takes 35,000 miles for a round trip flight to Colombia. I can offer them to you cheaper than you can get a regular ticket, PLUS they are good for a FULL year and any changes are FREE. If you have flexibility in booking, feel free to "private message" me for more info. They are especially valuable for those who live in the northern states, but also for anyone who want to be able to change their flying dates. I do this on a friend to friend basis only, and only for guys going to Colombia)

[Antifreeze]

Happy C,

This is the miracle or the tragedy related to Colombia (depending on your point of view). The typical Colombian man is an idiot that I get to understand more over the years living here. Why commit to one when you can have so many of them? I would do exactly what they are doing if I'd live all my life in Colombia. You do not have to show much commitment to a Colombian woman for her to open up to a relationship. Although a lot of them know how foreigners are (and are not as 'easy' with them - sometimes even stating that they won't have any relationship prior to marrying), the fact on the matter is that they are pretty fast to open up.

Provided that, they are little jewels that can and want to commit for the most part. But their environment do not allow for that. I think that Colombian men are perfect for american women, we should negociate a swap...

My choices would be easy if I'd abstract from kids. Altough the playing fields are a lot of fun in Colombia, explaining to my son in 10-15 years that he was prevented from his father because of a dick that can't control hisself wouldn't be an experience that I look forward to.

So, in response to that I zip it up and fight my male nature (while most Colombian men don't).

Freeze

[Happy C]

Hey Antifreeze- nice post.

I am little puzzled. These woman at Flores Frescas are apparently quite beautiful and have some brains. They aren't working for $25K-$40K pesos at La Clinica and other joints. Why is it they cannot find men in Colombia to be with and take care of them. I mean when you go to this club and elsewhere there sure is a lot of $$ flying around. There are many men in Colombia that have $$. I see it in the Casinos and clubs (dance and social) I am totally lost why these girls do not home in on a guy with $$ to take care of them. Any comments.

Happy C

[Antifreeze]

I brought my brother to Flores Frescas yesterday. After winning about the fact that 15.000 pesos was pretty steep for an entry price (he's pretty close his hard earned money), we went in.

He saw the girls and could not believe how many beautiful ones are in there. Then the show began (3 part show this time). He said that he never saw anything like this and truly enjoyed it. My brother traveled a lot and he is a quite a sex-traveler. He went to Tailand and tried the pump station there, he lived in China for 2 years and got some communist chicks a lot, he lived in Taiwan and Cambodia also. Although he did not use the services of any, it will be a night he'll remember.

I used the services of Melissa. What a little jewel she is. She doesn't have the best body around, but God do walls and ceiling move when we're at it!!! Prices are 100.000 pesos for an half-hour for the ones who do not know.

I preveiously tried Brigitte a week or so ago. She is just a 10. She's a black hair, beautiful smile, perfect body kind of girl that I like. She studies to be a paramedic. A lot of guys a just intimidated by so much beauty that they don't even approach her. I know the feeling, I've been there. But then I did approach her after a couple of glasses of rhum. The thing that is scary with so much beauty, is that us men are programed to chase it, not to have it. What do you do when you go and sleep with a 10, you turn around and die (Surfer, you know what I mean). What is left to chase, just reproducing the same experience since it truly can't get better than a 10 in your bed that actually performs well and enjoys it. And that's excactly what I got then.

Anyhow, just a quick message from the south. Take care.

Freeze

[Simple Man]

Hey Antifreeze,

Thanks for rubbing it in, you lucky bastard.

Stay safe and have fun.

[Surfer]

Hey Freeze, Glad to hear La Clinica is regaining some talent as it was horrid last time we went. I am taking a break from Colombia until October or November and am soon going back to SE asia for first time in 2 years. Cuidate compadre.

[Ngp477]

last time I was at the "Love Dr. " most of the girls were below average, chunky, tatooed. Because I was a gringo (I think) the mater de put me behind the door so I could see the girls before they presented to the Colombians. Most of them were rough in their talk and appearance, some just tired.

I was able to find a diamond in the rough and for the price, it is a great value casa. There were only fans in the rooms and we sweated like pigs.

[Antifreeze]

I went back to la casa del doctor Amor today and the place is way better than a couple of months ago. There are about 20-30 girls in each house, and there are now 2 of them. So, the place is well staffed, each room has been renovated and has its own bathroom and shower, and the prices are still unbeatable (25.000 per half-hour).

I'm sorry that I don't have the address in memory, it's on this board somewhere. It by El Rio (Avenida 2 Norte) where all the casas are.

Also, I went to Flores Frescas a couple of times last month. There are so many beautiful girls in there, they don't know where to put them anymore. The show is just plain amazing. And then, when you go in a room with one of the girls, she really makes you feel special.

Living in Cali is just great! You should all be jealous...

Freeze