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  1. #4666

    Wow

    WOW! I go to Tijuana for 5 days and all hell breaks loose on the Cali site. But I'm generally in the Triple Darkness camp of not needing a guide. By the way Triple I will be in Cali next month hope to meet up w you and have a drink at one of the hot spots that have been talked about. I started coming to Cali about 12 years ago. Used to come here quite often. Not so much lately. Had financial problems for a while.

    But the areas I go to, I found out about on my own. Didn't need a guide. Either read previous reports or heard about. But I use google maps a lot to map out where places are and gauge how to get there. Don't use cabs all that much, just walk to it. Somebody mentioned Caras Lindas; I used to walk there from El Centro all the time, even though passing thru some sketchy hoods along the way. Thats all part of the fun in Cali.

    My suggestion to newbies is to do your homework. All the info is right there on the maps. Just figure out where you are and how to get there.

    As far as Jesus goes. Yes he did turn me on to some new spots, but I would have found them eventually on my own. Yes I did experience his anger a few times. I don't need that drama on a vacation. I feel sorry for him on the job scene but I can't help him. It aint me babe.

  2. #4665
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]
    The issue is that NO ONE CAN GIVE YOU THE EXPERIENCE YOU WANT.

    Because I told him that Cali is the Land of Black women, he likes Black women

    Trip.
    Don't get it twisted. Newbies My man Trip is right there is a larger ratio of darker Colombians in Cali. Especially compared to the larger cities such as Medellin and Bogota. But it's not Africa, Haiti, or the DR. As trip explain and showed me; a lot of these chicas come from cities on the western coast that are predominantly Afro Colombian seeking work and a better life. However, overall they still make up a small percentage of the population and a very small percentage of chicas in the casas. Definitely enough for guys like Trip and myself; but we are chocolate connoisseurs.

    Now that Trip has a firm grip on the place I can't wait to get back there. However I understand how dude felt knowing you already broke in the chicas you're introducing him to. I do appreciated the Alleyoop you gave me and my man. It helped us get the ball rolling. Some of us don't get the same excitement having someone that we're kool with leftovers.

  3. #4664

    Planning Return After a Long Absence

    Just want to drop a line and say thanks everybody who continues to make valuable contributions here. I haven't been to Cali in more than 10 years, but I'm planning on going back for a visit soon.

    I first went to Cali because in my younger days I was very much into salsa dancing and the bars on la sexta and Juanchito were once upon a time world famous for that. I think things have changed both in terms of slasa's popularity as well as my interest in it, but it will be fun to go back and enjoy the city and the girls.

    I may drop a question or two as I'm planning accommodations, logistics etc. Not really interested in a guide or anything of that nature. If that type of thing were necessary then Cali would really no longer be of interest to me. I am trying to go back through the archives and read everything, but if anyone has links to threads or resources with up-to-date information on food / hotels / transportation etc. , I certainly appreciate that. Otherwise look forward to chatting with you guys a little bit more as I plan. I'll pay it back with a trip report upon my return.

    LM.

  4. #4663

    Not all travelers

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldTravel69  [View Original Post]
    Your Right.

    That is how I met Jesus in Quito Ecuador.

    But he can not get job as a taxi driver in Cali. Like I said before they want young kids, Not an older person in his 50's. And times are hard for all.
    Except us travelers.
    I'm an older person no Social Security for me. I have a fair amount of money but I got into huge credit card debt. I budget 1250 a month in totality and I like to fuck hoes.

    Maybe someone should do a Go fund me / help a brotha out / Guide business for me.

    Don't cry for Me I'll be debt free in three months.

    Hope this Helps (me).

    Trip.

  5. #4662

    Taxi Driver

    Your Right.

    That is how I met Jesus in Quito Ecuador.

    But he can not get job as a taxi driver in Cali. Like I said before they want young kids, Not an older person in his 50's. And times are hard for all.
    Except us travelers.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    When I go somewhere new I hop in a taxi and say take me to the women (the normal local priced women, not the foreigner ripoff spots). Simple. And even if I am not looking for women as when I was in Valledupar with my girlfriend a couple of months ago. We flagged down a taxi and asked how much per hour. I think the guy said 30 K. I said 25 K. He said okay. That day he took us around running errands and seeing stuff within the city. The next day he took us to see things outside of the city and all up in the mountains and shit. Then when he dropped us off I told him what time to come take me to the airport the next day. So if I am paying a guy with a car 25 K to take me all over, how much should be paid to a guy without a car to show me a couple of hooker dens?

  6. #4661

    The Shorter version

    Quote Originally Posted by Cursnoop  [View Original Post]
    I have read some reports and I can in some way understand Jesus issue. The minimum salary is 240 us dollar in Colombia. So someone working everyday might finish with 240 us dollar and with that need to pay house / groceries / etc.

    The reality is places where tourist go to prices increase. Pussy in Cali was cheaper but if a girl ask for an amount of money for fucking example above 70 k cop which is 17/18 us dollar most of you guys won't have a problem paying it for a 20 min session. But a dude that is helping you getting the best pussies you do not think deserves a good payment in return he deserves the 3rd world salary but for a hoe she deserves a first world salary.
    He's not taking you to the best pussies he's taking you to available pussies.

    One thing he or no guide will do is say "Hey boss the local price of chicas is 30,000 pesos" or about 7 to 8 bucks. He's not going to say anything when the hoe qoutes you 80,100 200 or 400 thousand pesos, all these places guys are running from are places when people tried to pull their coats and the dude saw what he thinks is a knockout and say "Ok".

    In Cali there's guys his age who sit in parking lots directing cars backing out of lots, having your car guarded and not having an accident is worth 2000 pesos or about 50 cents. I doubt they make the daily minumum wage for Colombia. Jesus could do that if he wanted to, but if some gringo told him over 10 t0 20 USD a day "guiding" stupid gringos to well known hooker dens that any Cabbie can take you to I'd prefer that to guiding Colombians in and out of parking spots.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

  7. #4660

    The curated experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Cursnoop  [View Original Post]
    I have read some reports and I can in some way understand Jesus issue. The minimum salary is 240 us dollar in Colombia. So someone working everyday might finish with 240 us dollar and with that need to pay house / groceries / etc.

    The reality is places where tourist go to prices increase. Pussy in Cali was cheaper but if a girl ask for an amount of money for fucking example above 70 k cop which is 17/18 us dollar most of you guys won't have a problem paying it for a 20 min session. But a dude that is helping you getting the best pussies you do not think deserves a good payment in return he deserves the 3rd world salary but for a hoe she deserves a first world salary.
    The issue is that NO ONE CAN GIVE YOU THE EXPERIENCE YOU WANT.

    For example I met a dude from one of the what's app travel groups. Dude is Black he posts here. He heard me speak on how cheap Cali is compared to other places like Carty so he cam down. He loved the place but cut short his trip and ran back to Medellin.

    Why? Because I told him that Cali is the Land of Black women, he likes Black women but in his own words f I'm paying for it she has to be a Dime" he showed me what she considered a dime it was a chick from Carty that he met on Tik Tok that quoted him 600,000 pesos. I said "She looks like Sophia Vergara that's a universal dime everywhere in the world a girl like that is going to want at least 100 usd" I also said "That Black chick on the bus that you got the number from was maybe a 7 at best" he said eah but that was for free".

    All Jesus, or any guide is going to do is to take you to Dr. Amor, Bar la veinte The Deluxe club and maybe every other casa in Grenada. You don't like to fuck on site on the clock, You're into spinners? You prefer lightskinned girls? You want all night GFE with english? Or any other factor that may make you choose one girl over another.

    The reason why I don't want to be a guide is after dragging you to every casa in town and walking around Centro finding you the "perfect" streetwalker only for an entitled monger to say eah but not her hair is one strand too long" I'm liable to knock your ass out right there and take all your money for the wasted time an aggrovation.

    Again Mongers come to Latin America for the delusion of some beautiful chica loving them. Anyone can tell you you go to Tulips in Thailand and you'll have the experience of a lifetime, But then when you handover 2000 baht or whatever the delusion bubble bursts and you know that you're only a walking ATM.

    I had instances where I've literally shown guys girls and said "But you barebacked this girl ten times I don't want your sloppy seconds". Fair enough swipe the dating apps or go to the Parque de Peros and talk to every chica you see. But you don't need a guide for that.

    I like I said it's not really a guide basically it's a private social security plan for a down on his luck guy who knows another guy who has a 7 year friendship with a Man thousands of miles away when he can barely remember the name of the last girl who rocked his world.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

  8. #4659
    Quote Originally Posted by Cursnoop  [View Original Post]
    But a dude that is helping you getting the best pussies you do not think deserves a good payment in return he deserves the 3rd world salary but for a hoe she deserves a first world salary.
    When I go somewhere new I hop in a taxi and say take me to the women (the normal local priced women, not the foreigner ripoff spots). Simple. And even if I am not looking for women as when I was in Valledupar with my girlfriend a couple of months ago. We flagged down a taxi and asked how much per hour. I think the guy said 30 K. I said 25 K. He said okay. That day he took us around running errands and seeing stuff within the city. The next day he took us to see things outside of the city and all up in the mountains and shit. Then when he dropped us off I told him what time to come take me to the airport the next day. So if I am paying a guy with a car 25 K to take me all over, how much should be paid to a guy without a car to show me a couple of hooker dens?
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  9. #4658
    I have read some reports and I can in some way understand Jesus issue. The minimum salary is 240 us dollar in Colombia. So someone working everyday might finish with 240 us dollar and with that need to pay house / groceries / etc.

    The reality is places where tourist go to prices increase. Pussy in Cali was cheaper but if a girl ask for an amount of money for fucking example above 70 k cop which is 17/18 us dollar most of you guys won't have a problem paying it for a 20 min session. But a dude that is helping you getting the best pussies you do not think deserves a good payment in return he deserves the 3rd world salary but for a hoe she deserves a first world salary.

  10. #4657

    The Map

    Here is the map.

    Jesus has been to all these places, checking them out for you.

    He is the man on the ground, since I am not there to check them out, like I did in the past.

    So, please help him.

    The map it is not open, you will have to ask for permission, as a few members have already done.

    So now admin has taken his contact number off this site, you will have to PM me for his WhatsApp number.

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?h...765983389&z=12

  11. #4656

    Trust in Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldTravel69  [View Original Post]
    This program is good for some and not for others.

    I have all the commutations that some of you sent to Jesus.

    A few of you might wanted to apologize to him.

    And help him, Please.

    He is just trying to make a honest living and needs your help.

    So Help him, claim it on your taxes if you must.
    You do know that to use Jesus dudes actually have to come to Cali.

    Personally If I told people that Cali was the El Dorado of pussy and a guy came here and didn't find what he was looking for I'd feel responsible. If I flew down and had a shitty time I'd be heated.

    If you really want to help Jesus you should post in this forum everyday you write some penthouse letters erotica you'll get newbie horndogs flying down here they'll use Jesus, Jesus gets rich.

    I'm pretty sure that the IRS won't let you write off what you paid your third world pussy guide but what do I know, I'd not a tax lawyer.

    Hope this helps.

    Trip.

  12. #4655

    A Vote of Confidence

    Quote Originally Posted by NakedGunz  [View Original Post]
    OK, so I'll tell it since you brought it up. The "Guide" was an OK dude. I don't mind helping a guy out and he seems like he needs it. In my opinion TD should be the guide, and he should be paid, but he asks for nothing. My trip to Cali for almost a month was the best trip I have had in awhile. I tend to stick to the same places (Phils, Thailand, Dubai, Kenya) so I was out of my comfort zone coming to Colombia. TD made it an awesome trip just showing me around the city and hotspots, and I took the ball and ran with it in my own way. I only did Tinder, and women were coming almost daily. I don't really want to phuck in a cum stained bed for a cheap 100 K, even though Bar 20 chicas are hot, so I gave out a little bit more for them to come to me. Double shots were almost given without having to ask for them. I had four come in one day. OK, I'm lazy. That's my modis in Kenya too, but they have great bars and clubs in Nairobi, so there I go out along with the other places I mentioned. We met Baboy and he also showed us some spots.

    I didn't really like street women, and I will save the casas for next time. I did, however, love the erotic massage place "Katmandu". Decent line up, I picked a big titted girl and she gave me a decent rub. FS afterwards was an extra 90 k for about 180 total I think. I will return. I don't need beauty, I need women with "10" bodies with average faces a good attitudes, which is what I got most of the time. The guide took us out for only one night in my entire time there because we really didn't need him. About a month after getting back I get a text from him with a video. The video was of a bar he said he wanted to buy. He was soliciting money from me to help him buy it. WTF! Now I'm a money lender! I asked him about going to the bank, did he have a business plan, yada-yada. I got the "banks are hard brother" reply. Long story short he had to be blocked. Big thanks to the "Guide" sitting in a bar dreaming of owning it and sending me fucking the bill! This board is for us to help each other. No guide really needed unless he has some secret gardens.
    Full Disclosure: I met Junior because he was hanging at the Grenada executive suites with another Sosua Vet. The Sue Vet used him primarily as a Bob Marley contact because he had Me for general guiding. I will say that Junior knew a lot of secret places but again he's primarily a Bob Marley guide.

    Most Cali expats are kinda standoffish and want to keep this place a secret. I'm different I like to share and frankly the only reason why this town doesn't blow everyplace out of the water is because it's way harder to meet "non pros" on the street and very hard to get Overnights with them. I put that down to the fact that most "non pros"haven't met a generous gringo who gave them a decent amount of money to hang out.

    The Main reason I'm not a guide is because #1. I don't need the money I could use an extra saw buck like anyone else but I can't curate a dude's experience. Based on my posts here over 20 guys have come down and when they miss the "point and click" atmosphere of a Sosua a Soi 6 a Parque Llreas an El Conde, a Pedro Clisante or a Clock Tower and they beeline back to one of those places I kinda feel like I let them down. Recently I still recommend Cali but I do a much better job managing their expectations.

    I saw this #guidegate coming a mile away I had the same issues that everyone else had with Jesus but considering his situation I couldn't really be upset with him.

    I guess if someone wanted a Man to clean their air bnb or make store runs or translate something he'd be Ok with that but I guess he'd want 100 K a day or about 20 to 25 bucks to do those things. I really think dude is uncomfortable with pointing out casas in San Nicholas and even more uncomfortable delivering a Vennie Street walker to your Hotel.

    He will attempt to wait till you finish in the next room if you let him.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

  13. #4654

    Damn

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkWil92  [View Original Post]
    Trip, thank you so much. This explains it all. I paid this Jesus 70 K total. He said he charges 33000 an hour supposedly. Smh. Lesson learned and that's exactly why, after the first night I did not use him again because there was just no need! I have the map and it gave me all the help I needed. You do not need a guide for anyone coming to Cali. You can wing it yourself, I promise. I can't be responsible for another grown man, and the way he acted was unnecessary. Honestly. He's still harassing me because I left that bad review. Sending threatening texts early in the morning and even said he would come and wait outside my casa again. He never showed cause I was definitely waiting for his ass this time. But I ended up blocking his # but word of advice for future mongers. Do not use a guide. Please. This was the only thing that made my experience horrible. I'm ready to go back to Texas! Idk what kind of weird relationship World Travel & Jesus have but that shit needs to end. He was the only number that could be posted on here? What kind of shit is that? Weird. Anywho. Don't use a guide& I paid him way too much. Lesson learned!
    Sorry you had a bad experience, no disrespect to the old guy but Ol' Hay soos is not a threat to anyone.

    I promise you Cali is not that bad a place and as you said you don't need a guide.

    You can get a similar map for Medellin in Sweet Georgia Brown's cafe in Problado. Cartagena you don't really need a map at all.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

  14. #4653

    WhatsApp

    This program is good for some and not for others.

    I have all the commutations that some of you sent to Jesus.

    A few of you might wanted to apologize to him.

    And help him, Please.

    He is just trying to make a honest living and needs your help.

    So Help him, claim it on your taxes if you must.

  15. #4652

    Yes, you know

    But, so many of these young travelers have a lot to learn.

    And we are their teachers.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    As the saying goes, they see you when you are balling but don't see you when you are struggling. I would assert that most people here have struggled before. Just because you see them on the website and traveling now, does not mean they have had it gravy all of their lives.

    There was a time when I was thankful for 49 cent tacos at Taco Bell because I would have 2 of them for lunch everyday along with the free Mountain Dew that I stole because the machine was in the lobby. I was also thankful for hot dogs and ramen noodles, because that is what I had for dinner everyday. And I was extra thankful that I had food stamps to use to buy that.

    Us being here now says nothing of what we have come from. And when you understand how hard it is to come by, you do not give it away so easily.

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