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  1. #5243

    Torturing a deceased horse

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonShot  [View Original Post]
    Cali is a city that I intend to visit one day. So far I have only visited Medellin and things are going well. I have focused exclusively on Facebook girls in Medellin and things are much tougher to find Facebook girls in Cali. So far out of 1,100 FB friends, 1 girl is in Cali and the rest are in Medellin. If I ever got more serious about visiting Cali, I would try a little harder to find FB girls located in Cali. It may be a city where Tinder works better than Facebook. Cali is on the backburner for now but if I find more Cali girls on FB, I would move up the date.
    Cali is a completely different city than Medellin, Coming from Medellin is like going to say Valledupar. It's the "real" Colombia I did the same thing went I first came to Cali didn't work, If a Cali girl agreed to meet you then expect to go on 50 dates with no sex because she would consider you an actual friend.

    Facebook game developed in Medellin because of the scoplomine attacks from Tinder girls no where in the world does mongers use Facebook specifically to find pussy. Maybe you can use IG but even then it doesn't really work. If you really really want to come to Cali (and if you're fine in the Meddy market you probably should stay there) Then you'd be better off using Tinder and Bumble. I know guys who got drugged in Cali off Tinder but I used it for a year without any problems, For some reason I never heard of Bumble being a site that attracts drug gangs.

    But if you really want defenite action I'd use Seeking SA is SA and works in every country where it's available.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

  2. #5242
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]
    FThe point is if you decide to come to Cali although a true google master who carefully RTFF would do well in Cali but if you need someone to take you hand in hand to the best places then reach out. If you want to see all these places they're pretty spread out you'd need a car to go to all of them. If you stopped reading at Cali is cheap and come anyway and it's not what you wanted don say that you weren't warned..
    That would be great. We will be there Sept 14th and I don't mind trying the map but it we have trouble we'd definitely appreciate the help.

  3. #5241

    Cali is what it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by MongerHunger  [View Original Post]
    I enjoyed my visit to Cali and I would return. I feel that the people that say Cali sucks are biased or too lazy to find the quality women in Cali or a combination of both. Cali is a big enough city of over 2 million inhabitants and it can serve the needs of anyone who want those needs met. True mongers will find what they are looking for instead of complaining.
    Again true experienced Mongers can find working girls anywhere just like working girls can find customers anywhere This is the land of Cali Curves but there's plenty of Skinny Mini Vennies here if that's what you're into it'just requires more research and footwork. Guys get lazy and spolied by Parque Llreas and the Clock Tower and if they can't point and click they don't want it.

    Short story shorter if you need in your face Point and'Click action like Parque Llreas I wouldn't waste your time comming to Cali.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

  4. #5240

    Making a short story shorter

    Quote Originally Posted by BayBoy  [View Original Post]
    Triple your a prolific writer on the Cali scene. I can't add too much more on this subject. You pretty much analyzed it very well. My view is that there are 63 K posts about Medellin and 13 K posts for Cartegena and Bogota. But only 5 K for Cali. That pretty much sums it up. Cali is No. 4 on the pecking order and that's the way it is. Just not as popular destination for mongers.

    I'm a Bar La20 and Son Sonero type guy plus the SW scene around there. Thats all I need to be happy in my sexo needs. Been to Dr. Amor a few times. Good quality place. I couldn't find Cyber World my last trip to Cali. But I will be in Colombia in 2 weeks, will make sure and stop in there then.
    That's it that's why Cali is #4 in Colombia You went to Cyber world with me it's right on Ave. Sexta you're stomping grounds and YOU CAN'T FIND IT. I haven't been since then but it's the building with blacked out windows almost directly across from Caras Lindas. I'm telling you this and there's a 50/50 chance that you'd find it when you get here.

    That's the essense of the Cali scene. You don't know what you don't know.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

  5. #5239
    Triple your a prolific writer on the Cali scene. I can't add too much more on this subject. You pretty much analyzed it very well. My view is that there are 63 K posts about Medellin and 13 K posts for Cartegena and Bogota. But only 5 K for Cali. That pretty much sums it up. Cali is No. 4 on the pecking order and that's the way it is. Just not as popular destination for mongers.

    I'm a Bar La20 and Son Sonero type guy plus the SW scene around there. Thats all I need to be happy in my sexo needs. Been to Dr. Amor a few times. Good quality place. I couldn't find Cyber World my last trip to Cali. But I will be in Colombia in 2 weeks, will make sure and stop in there then.

  6. #5238
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]
    First of all let me say I actually want more mongers to consider Cali that being said If you Love meddy you'd likely hate Cali.

    And vice versa while I don't hate medellin if I never went there again I'd be ok with it In fact I hardly get the appeal of the place.

    People hear what they want to hear from my posts when I say Cali is a walkable city that is correct, but if you tried to walk from the north to the south that is a very very very long walk.

    There's no upscle red light district in Cali at least not a Parque lleras style place the closest eqiuvalent is Parque Boulevar. And the Boulevard is NOTHING LIKE Parque LLeras there's no hoes there and the crowds are only there on weekend nights around 9 to around 2 or 3 o clock again there's street parties with locals dancing to Salsa music theres no hoes around there. Same with Parque del Perros it is what it claims to be a big Dog park with Bars and restuarants surrounding it again if your spanish is good maybe you can snag a Non pro but there's really no hook up culture in Colombia except for the artificial one on Medellin and Cartagena. Dates generally invovle local restuarants movies and kicking with the fam drinling Rum and no sex.

    You don't need a guide here but a short stayer with no Spanish might want one because the easiest to find brothel with the girls That a CALENO would find attractive would be in Clinica Dr. Amor. But the first few times I saw it I went up to the front door and it's on a regular street looking like a regular house in a regular neighborhood. If you simply google Mapped it and went to the front door chances are you'd miss it the actual address is unhelpful in that regard.

    You'd have to go around the back in what looks like a junkyard for Taxi's and go to the hidden back enterance to be allowed in. All the other brothels in the city are the same way on a regular ass street and you'd never know exactly where the place is or if it's open. The place that was down the street from me in El Ingenio only indication that it was open was the Outside Iron gate would be open when it was open and it's a daytime brothel not a nighttime one. Again in my years of boots on the ground in Cali If you wanted casa action and you were in El Ingenio at night the closest spot is the way expensive Tangas VIP or the Deluxe Club VIP.

    Other than that Athough I wouldn't reccomend using a dating app or Photoprepagoes or Milerocticos you can try it it's not nearly as risky as Medellin for Tinder but I know guys that got got in Cali on Tinder too. The Prepagos sites may not be open and usually whoever you see on the site will not likely be there once you go to the location.

    Centro has Bar La Vente and Son Senero which are fun and although a non spanish speaker might miss the signs they're fairly easier to find.

    For street meat fans they're out there there's less targeting of Gringos for Gringo's sake but if you see a ton of dudes riding Motos you stand an excellent chance of becoming a victim of oppertunity on those dark streets. If you're a meddy centro vet then I'd use the same spidey sense that you use in Meddy for Cali. I never been anywhere near Plaza Botero at night but I guess the difference is Plaza Botero is a tourist destination during the day wheras Cali's centro is just that a Cheap run down downtown where locals get cutrate deals in the daytime.

    There's not zero SW's in the daytime but the ones that are out in the daytime are discreet and well you get what you pay for. The Night action brings out far better pickings but again the streets are pitch Black in places but there's better lighting on the main streets near some of the bigger cabanas / Fast sheet no tels. Some of the better girls approach San Sonero (but not Bar La Vente) Quality and if you're lucky every once in a while Hotel del Rey girls generally are the hottest SW girls in Cali but they will try to overcharge you on the fees related to using Hotel Del Rey.

    There's also kind of a union among Del Rey girls so if you want to stay within the 50 to 60 K COP range you might have to take their numbers and reconvene elsewhere. Keep in mind that Cali's Centro does have some trannies around. They don't hang around the regular girls but if you wander the blocks thinking that you need to see each chica then you'd run acroos the Trannies in the darker streets dressed even more provocatively.

    As Far as the Massage Parlour scene some of the best ones in Town are in the south but If you went to Katmandu In Limonar to one of the spots in El Ingenio then that's at least 4 kilomters away. Even the two spots that I know in El Ingenio (which are very good and recommended even for just the massage) is several blocks away from each other and as I said in nondescrpt houses that you wouldn't be sure was the right spot.

    A final thought about the Cali scene is Caras Lindas is right off of Sexta and there may be other undiscovered gems but again I've told mongers exactly where it was and they still counldn't find it. When I showed people around even I missed it a few times. Same thing with Cyber world again never would've known where it was even though I passed it a million times on Sexta. Again a real get what you pay for kind of place but a place with the absolute cheapest pussy in town even cheaper than the SW's.

    The point is if you decide to come to Cali although a true google master who carefully RTFF would do well in Cali but if you need someone to take you hand in hand to the best places then reach out. If you want to see all these places they're pretty spread out you'd need a car to go to all of them. If you stopped reading at Cali is cheap and come anyway and it's not what you wanted don say that you weren't warned.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.
    I enjoyed my visit to Cali and I would return. I feel that the people that say Cali sucks are biased or too lazy to find the quality women in Cali or a combination of both. Cali is a big enough city of over 2 million inhabitants and it can serve the needs of anyone who want those needs met. True mongers will find what they are looking for instead of complaining.

  7. #5237

    Trade Off's

    Based on my last post you might wonder why I'm in Cali.

    Simple Cali is the most economical Bang for you buck place out of the 18 countries I've been to.

    It's not the best place for Girls for girls I'd say that overall Nairobi is the best plac FOR ME and guys like me on the planet with Santo Domingo running a close second.

    But everthing in life has tradeoffs. A quick check on Aibnb's shows that accomodations cost twice as much as accomodations in Cali. Food is way cheaper and transportation is cheaper and traffic is way better than Santo Domingo or Nairobi, Traffic is actually way worse in Nairobi than in Santo Domingo.

    For the short stayer non spanish speaking guy who has no expeirence in finding pussy outside of the most popular fleshpots on the planet Cali probably wouldn't work for you. BUT if you have time, Spanish / cultural skills, willing to spend months or expat, an exhaustive reasearcher willing to carefully RTFF and have the monger eye where you can pick up pussy anywhere you go then Cali is a goldmine. The only place that come close with non pro / first gringo action is SD and gain everthing including pussy is slightly more expensive in SD but also in Meddy as well. Then adding that it way safer to pick up newbies and get TLN's at your spot tips the scales in Cali's favor.

    But this takes time and won't happen unless you have several trips and or a local Plug, Once you crack the code Cali is wonderful. According to most of the Cost of Living sites Cali and Bucarmanga runs neck in neck as one of the cheapest big cities in the Western Hemisphere if Buca is slightly cheaper it's hotter, smaller, no beach anywhere near, and almost no Black people (if that matters to you) I've check the Bucaramaranga board apperantly there's not even a major strip club there (at least not one being reported on) so it's casa's and Vennies (again no report of a street scene in Buca) Only. So again Cali for the win.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

  8. #5236

    Cali and Facebook Girls

    Cali is a city that I intend to visit one day. So far I have only visited Medellin and things are going well. I have focused exclusively on Facebook girls in Medellin and things are much tougher to find Facebook girls in Cali. So far out of 1,100 FB friends, 1 girl is in Cali and the rest are in Medellin. If I ever got more serious about visiting Cali, I would try a little harder to find FB girls located in Cali. It may be a city where Tinder works better than Facebook. Cali is on the backburner for now but if I find more Cali girls on FB, I would move up the date.

  9. #5235

    The Quick down and dirty guide to Cali

    First of all let me say I actually want more mongers to consider Cali that being said If you Love meddy you'd likely hate Cali.

    And vice versa while I don't hate medellin if I never went there again I'd be ok with it In fact I hardly get the appeal of the place.

    People hear what they want to hear from my posts when I say Cali is a walkable city that is correct, but if you tried to walk from the north to the south that is a very very very long walk.

    There's no upscle red light district in Cali at least not a Parque lleras style place the closest eqiuvalent is Parque Boulevar. And the Boulevard is NOTHING LIKE Parque LLeras there's no hoes there and the crowds are only there on weekend nights around 9 to around 2 or 3 o clock again there's street parties with locals dancing to Salsa music theres no hoes around there. Same with Parque del Perros it is what it claims to be a big Dog park with Bars and restuarants surrounding it again if your spanish is good maybe you can snag a Non pro but there's really no hook up culture in Colombia except for the artificial one on Medellin and Cartagena. Dates generally invovle local restuarants movies and kicking with the fam drinling Rum and no sex.

    You don't need a guide here but a short stayer with no Spanish might want one because the easiest to find brothel with the girls That a CALENO would find attractive would be in Clinica Dr. Amor. But the first few times I saw it I went up to the front door and it's on a regular street looking like a regular house in a regular neighborhood. If you simply google Mapped it and went to the front door chances are you'd miss it the actual address is unhelpful in that regard.

    You'd have to go around the back in what looks like a junkyard for Taxi's and go to the hidden back enterance to be allowed in. All the other brothels in the city are the same way on a regular ass street and you'd never know exactly where the place is or if it's open. The place that was down the street from me in El Ingenio only indication that it was open was the Outside Iron gate would be open when it was open and it's a daytime brothel not a nighttime one. Again in my years of boots on the ground in Cali If you wanted casa action and you were in El Ingenio at night the closest spot is the way expensive Tangas VIP or the Deluxe Club VIP.

    Other than that Athough I wouldn't reccomend using a dating app or Photoprepagoes or Milerocticos you can try it it's not nearly as risky as Medellin for Tinder but I know guys that got got in Cali on Tinder too. The Prepagos sites may not be open and usually whoever you see on the site will not likely be there once you go to the location.

    Centro has Bar La Vente and Son Senero which are fun and although a non spanish speaker might miss the signs they're fairly easier to find.

    For street meat fans they're out there there's less targeting of Gringos for Gringo's sake but if you see a ton of dudes riding Motos you stand an excellent chance of becoming a victim of oppertunity on those dark streets. If you're a meddy centro vet then I'd use the same spidey sense that you use in Meddy for Cali. I never been anywhere near Plaza Botero at night but I guess the difference is Plaza Botero is a tourist destination during the day wheras Cali's centro is just that a Cheap run down downtown where locals get cutrate deals in the daytime.

    There's not zero SW's in the daytime but the ones that are out in the daytime are discreet and well you get what you pay for. The Night action brings out far better pickings but again the streets are pitch Black in places but there's better lighting on the main streets near some of the bigger cabanas / Fast sheet no tels. Some of the better girls approach San Sonero (but not Bar La Vente) Quality and if you're lucky every once in a while Hotel del Rey girls generally are the hottest SW girls in Cali but they will try to overcharge you on the fees related to using Hotel Del Rey.

    There's also kind of a union among Del Rey girls so if you want to stay within the 50 to 60 K COP range you might have to take their numbers and reconvene elsewhere. Keep in mind that Cali's Centro does have some trannies around. They don't hang around the regular girls but if you wander the blocks thinking that you need to see each chica then you'd run acroos the Trannies in the darker streets dressed even more provocatively.

    As Far as the Massage Parlour scene some of the best ones in Town are in the south but If you went to Katmandu In Limonar to one of the spots in El Ingenio then that's at least 4 kilomters away. Even the two spots that I know in El Ingenio (which are very good and recommended even for just the massage) is several blocks away from each other and as I said in nondescrpt houses that you wouldn't be sure was the right spot.

    A final thought about the Cali scene is Caras Lindas is right off of Sexta and there may be other undiscovered gems but again I've told mongers exactly where it was and they still counldn't find it. When I showed people around even I missed it a few times. Same thing with Cyber world again never would've known where it was even though I passed it a million times on Sexta. Again a real get what you pay for kind of place but a place with the absolute cheapest pussy in town even cheaper than the SW's.

    The point is if you decide to come to Cali although a true google master who carefully RTFF would do well in Cali but if you need someone to take you hand in hand to the best places then reach out. If you want to see all these places they're pretty spread out you'd need a car to go to all of them. If you stopped reading at Cali is cheap and come anyway and it's not what you wanted don say that you weren't warned.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

  10. #5234

    Trip delayed. More time to work on my Spanish

    Seems my trip is going to be pushed back a few months. Sucks, but I'll just use the time to continue working on my Spanish. I'll probably not have to rush it, either, and could end up with a solid 2-3 weeks in country. Silver linings and all that.

    I read that later in the year is the rainy season in Cali. Does it get really bad, weather-wise?

    But if a high percentage of the chicas in the *****houses are Colombianas, I say why not come to Colombia for the action.
    Well, this is definitely my plan. But it's far more accessible and safer than Colombia overall. English spoken everywhere, USD is legal tender. It's a duty free island where people can take a flight from NYC and buy jewellery that's cheaper than back home (even factoring airfare). It's a popular boating destination with hundreds of yachts of all sizes being based here in the winter. Popular for scuba diving as well. Having all of this in a relatively safe place, with reliable point and click mongering 15 minutes away where you know what to expect (prices are set, girls get STD tested) and the service is generally good makes it a good destination all-round. There isn't much of a freelance market, but you can pull locals on Tinder if you have enough game.

    Quote Originally Posted by BayBoy  [View Original Post]
    I've been to the French side of the island. I guess the big excitement is looking at the topless French girls laying on the beach.
    It really is a different vibe. Dozens of really great restaurants. Lots of luxury shopping, etc. I have friends who love it. These aren't mongers though.

    I mean you have to keep everything locked up for your safety (hotel, car and private stuff). The locals are indifferent that you are there.
    Locking your car and keeping valuables off the seat in plain view is smart in just about any place in the world. It's fairly safe. Yes, shit does happen, and there are opportunists, but you simply do not have to keep your head on a swivel like you would in Colombia.

    You should be happy people leave you alone, really. Gringo treatment most often just means paying more for less. It's also not a poor country. Sure, there are poor people, but even people in hospitality are making a couple grand a month, so you don't get the same level of deference to tourists as you would in other places.

  11. #5233

    What are good areas in Cali?

    Hi guys,

    I plan to visit Cali next month and I know nothing about the lay of the land and would like some advice. It would be great if some of you guys know Medellin as well for the use of comparisons. I plan to stay in an Airbnb because I stand a better chance of not having too many people monitoring me and my guests. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    When in MDE I like to frequent ground zero aka El Centro but I would never want to reside there. I like the bars and strip clubs but when it's time to lay my head I want to feel comfortable. Belen, la 70, and Laurales are my go-to areas when trying to find a nice safe, and secure location without costing an arm and a leg. These locations were also pretty close to everything as far as when I want to visit El Centro, la70, or El Pablado (Parque llyres). I've stayed in Pablado several times and I love the fact that I could walk to the clubs at Parque lyres and the proximity to nice restaurants but too many street vendors are always there ready to pounce on the gringo tourist and try to sell them something.

    All and all, I'd like to hear your guy's opinions on key areas in Cali taking into account price, safety, proximity to chicas and clubs, etc.

    Thanks in advance guys.

  12. #5232

    Humans are not Rational

    Quote Originally Posted by BayBoy  [View Original Post]
    I've been to the French side of the island. I guess the big excitement is looking at the topless French girls laying on the beach. But when I say the native people arent all that friendly, I mean you have to keep everything locked up for your safety (hotel, car and private stuff). The locals are indifferent that you are there.

    But if a high percentage of the chicas in the *****houses are Colombianas, I say why not come to Colombia for the action.
    That's what every dude who comes to Cali and ends up not liking it thinks. That they can get cut rate coochie at the source. Colombians go abroad to sell cooch that doesn't mean that if you go to her hometown that you'll find chicks down to pound like the inmates at foriegn brothels.

    Sometimes the best place to fuck a Colombiana is in Panama not Colombia.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

  13. #5231

    More SXM

    I've been to the French side of the island. I guess the big excitement is looking at the topless French girls laying on the beach. But when I say the native people arent all that friendly, I mean you have to keep everything locked up for your safety (hotel, car and private stuff). The locals are indifferent that you are there.

    But if a high percentage of the chicas in the *****houses are Colombianas, I say why not come to Colombia for the action.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisD1680  [View Original Post]
    Accurate about the island. We're talking the fun, Southern side of the island. French side is far more laid back and a different vibe altogether. I rarely spend any time there.

    Regarding locals, I don't know what you mean by "I didn't find the native people to be all that friendly". Frankly, as an islander, these kinds of comments always rub me the wrong way. As if we're all here for your entertainment. More likely that people are just trying to go about their day-to-day and not actively trying to be assholes to some random foreign stranger. I can't speak to your specific experiences, of course.

    Most of the people you're likely to meet will range from Jamaicans (there are many) to Haitians (a lot of cab drivers), Dominicanas / Dominicanos, Indians (store owners) and lots of Europeans and Americans all over. It's a very multicultural island with all kinds of languages spoken.

  14. #5230
    Quote Originally Posted by BayBoy  [View Original Post]
    When you say SXM I assume you are talking about the island of St. Maarten. Half the island is Dutch and the other half is French. All the REAL sin is on the Dutch side. Gambling, night and strip clubs, and prostitution. I was there about 20 years ago. You need a car to get around to the 'houses'. Prices are set. But I didn't find the native people to be all that friendly. Wouldn't go back.
    Accurate about the island. We're talking the fun, Southern side of the island. French side is far more laid back and a different vibe altogether. I rarely spend any time there.

    Regarding locals, I don't know what you mean by "I didn't find the native people to be all that friendly". Frankly, as an islander, these kinds of comments always rub me the wrong way. As if we're all here for your entertainment. More likely that people are just trying to go about their day-to-day and not actively trying to be assholes to some random foreign stranger. I can't speak to your specific experiences, of course.

    Most of the people you're likely to meet will range from Jamaicans (there are many) to Haitians (a lot of cab drivers), Dominicanas / Dominicanos, Indians (store owners) and lots of Europeans and Americans all over. It's a very multicultural island with all kinds of languages spoken.

  15. #5229

    Re CON's

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisD1680  [View Original Post]
    A bit more on topic, what's the consensus with these sites? Can anyone share their experiences?

    Is it a crap shoot where you might get catfished and / or just crap service? Scams?

    I've Whatsapped a few chicks off there just to get a feel for it. They're all fairly responsive and professional, and immediately send over a boilerplate rate sheet on the first or second message. I really do like this, but I see a few reports complaining. It could be a case of guys' expectations, but also could just be poor quality providers as well.

    Check out the SXM board. There's 5-6 casas all within 3-5 minutes of each other. Two are literally across the street from each other. You just park and go from one to the next. Colombianas and Dominicanas. High season (Nov. July), there's a solid 150+ chicas spread out among the clubs. Thins out in summer like now, but it never gets fully dead. $55-60 (with room fee) a pop for 20-30 mins. Has been roughly that for the last 15 years I've been going. So no inflation here.

    Chicks get health checkups every Friday (or Sat, I forget), as part of the club license and their work permits. It's a fun set up that goes back a good 2+ decades. It's a Dutch island, after all.
    You said you was down for a Recon trip and that's exactly what it will be. Trying to message hoes weeks out won't work in santo Domingo or Colombia the DR gets 8. 5 Million tourists a year beleive me texting chicks weeks out is standard and they don't beleive you till you tell them you're Boots on ground ready to meet. Nothing else that you say matters.

    They way those sites work is 1 to 4 girls rents a place and puts up an old glamour shot of the best looking one. They frequently move locations and switch out girls who quit or go to other places to hustle, a lot of the gils work seasonally and occansionally if they feel like it. If the place is even there when you get their you might be dissapointed. Those what's app messages are from a answering servica or an Old lady or a Man.

    All I can tell you is that I lived in the DR and Colombia and I quickly learned not to mess with them. Again leaving it up to you If you planned a mega trip months out and you find that the girls that you messaged are still there and open when you get to your destination if you're the type to generally fuck what opens the door as long as the girl opens the door you'll be fine, If you're kind of guy who'd say "This picture looks like it was taken 3 years ago three babies ago and thirty pounds ago" and leave then that might be an issue.

    I'd say look at each board dedciated to the cities that you want to hit and you'll see the same places mentiioned over and over again go there and you can't go wrong trying to mine social media to get chicks not so much.

    One thing is for certain other than Santo Domingo on the malecon specifically there's no place in Colombia where there's several spots located in a general area. Actually they are but unless someone told you you'd never find them there's no signs. I lived down the street from one for months and didn't have a clue until the building supe pointed at the door and said "Prepagos!

    Hope this Helps.

    Trip.

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