Cartagena Reports

[Rzrfl69]

This is funny. Hahahah. A group of girls tried to pick pocket 🤣129315;129315;129315;.

This guy watches too many spy films with how much he assumes he's being followed.

[HumbleHal]

I have been traveling a long time and to probably more destinations than most, and often hang out in what many would call very shady places. I have never encountered nor have I ever read on here someone reporting on a gang of muggers that they have come across. And you say this as if it is such a common thing that you can even discuss the mannerisms of these roving gangs of muggers. I mean how often does one even see 6 people in the street together unless it is a tour group or kids getting out of school, but you are talking like gangs of muggers are a dime a dozen.

In Costa Rica, a block near the old Del Rey, I had a group of 5 girls, probably 20-25 year olds walk up to me, try to pick pocket me. Two put their hands in my pockets and one pulled my cash out, it landed on the sidewalk. Fortunately I scooped it up before any of the girls got their filthy hands on it, and took off running to the Del Rey.

Never been mugged by guys, thank God. Had a creepy guy follow me in Santa Fe, Bogota, but I ducked into a corner restaurant and ordered some food and he eventually left the area.

[ClamSlammer]

LOL. I have been traveling a long time and to probably more destinations than most, and often hang out in what many would call very shady places. I have never encountered nor have I ever read on here someone reporting on a gang of muggers that they have come across. And you say this as if it is such a common thing that you can even discuss the mannerisms of these roving gangs of muggers. I mean how often does one even see 6 people in the street together unless it is a tour group or kids getting out of school, but you are talking like gangs of muggers are a dime a dozen. Either you have been watching too many movies or you need to write one.

You really have some really poor reading comprehensive skills, or a really vivid imagination. You continue time and time again, to just misinterpret things I say. I never said gangs of muggers are all that common. Where did I say that? You really think they roll in one big group attracting attention while they zero in on their target? LOL. Why don't you go call one of your illegal, underground Ubers, with your illegal Uber app, take a ride in their illegal car and make sure you sit in front because the cops may impound it LOL, pay with your illegal credit card, processed by an illegal bank, hopefully he'll have enough gas and not have to fill up at an illegal gas station along with way, and tip the illegal driver to take you to one of your shady places and enjoy your day.

[Mr Enternational]

Gangs of muggers don't zero in on their target by walking in a large obtrusive group and announcing that they will rob you from a mile away. They separate into smaller, less threatening groups and approach innocently from different directions then suddenly come together to surround their target.

LOL. I have been traveling a long time and to probably more destinations than most, and often hang out in what many would call very shady places. I have never encountered nor have I ever read on here someone reporting on a gang of muggers that they have come across. And you say this as if it is such a common thing that you can even discuss the mannerisms of these roving gangs of muggers. I mean how often does one even see 6 people in the street together unless it is a tour group or kids getting out of school, but you are talking like gangs of muggers are a dime a dozen. Either you have been watching too many movies or you need to write one.

[FrankBills007]

Will be in Cartagena July 1-4. Medellin 4-9 and back to Cartagena for few days before flying back. If anyone is there around that time DM me we'll get a drink. Medellin will be my 1st time but been to Cartagena bunch of times.

[ClamSlammer]

In what freelancer bar on this planet are there stages with poles and porn on the wall and chicks walking around in lingerie or bare chested? A freelancer bar is a normal neighborhood lounge or disco that has normally-dressed chicks that will leave with you for money.

IMHO Tijuana is doo doo for mongering. I always say if you happen to be in San Diego yes, but no need to make a special trip there when there are much better places. You don't see the European or Australian members of this board making a bee line for Tijuana. If you went to Brazil or Thailand you would probably lose your mind.

I was merely stating my observations of Space and LDV, and how they differed from hardcore puta bars, mainly for the benefit of mongers who have never been. I don't see a reason why you would comment about that. And I never said Tijuana is the best mongering destination. Matter of fact, I stated that I greatly preferred Cartagena over Tijuana. I frequent Tijuana due to convenience and proximity. Tijuana is a great mongering destination though. But there's no point in arguing which destination is the best. That's completely a matter of personal preference. Each destination has it own style, traits, specialties. If a monger prefers a straight up raunchy Latina *****house with onsite hotel, explicit stage shows, and packed with up to 600 putas on a weekend, then Tijuana would be at the top of his list. And don't forget ease of access as it's by far the most accessible to American mongers, who don't even need to book an international flight to get there. If one prefers social media hookers, then it would be Medellin. Freelancers in a tropical atmosphere? Cartagena. It's all personal preference. No use in wasting bandwidth trying to convince others that one particular destination is far superior to another.

[ClamSlammer]

When was the last time you were in Colombia? Things have changed with the increased Venezuelan presence and pandemic lockdown.

My only prior visit to Colombia was Medellin in 2016. Never did I feel uneasy or threatened during my 8 night stay.

I'm not sure why a gringo would be outside at 3 am walking around in Centro but to each their own.

I'm not sure if you're referring to the clock tower as "Centro" as I've never heard it referred to as that. But I was walking about 2-3 blocks from Space and 1/2 block down the wide pedestrian walkway across the street from the clock tower entrance. Since this is a major tourist area, I don't see why you feel it would be unusual to walk this area around the time the bars closed.

I'm going to guess that you went into these clubs in Centro expecting a working girl house or a strip club since you mentioned the absence of a stage, a pole and girls walking around in lingerie jajaja.

I had never been there so I didn't know what to expect. I thought that it may have been possible that one of the clubs may have had a pole or stage. It wasn't the most outlandish of thoughts I don't think.

How does 6 people "suddenly" surround you and your wingman? Its not like they jump over the wall and sneak up behind you or jumped down from the trees or crawled out of the bushes. Its sounding like both you and your wingman was under the influence and these guys saw an opportunity and took it.

I am usually a light drinker, and my wingman drinks half as much as I do. I may have had 2 or max 3 beers that night. Gangs of muggers don't zero in on their target by walking in a large obtrusive group and announcing that they will rob you from a mile away. They separate into smaller, less threatening groups and approach innocently from different directions then suddenly come together to surround their target.

No one needs a large group to walk around for safety. Does Space still have that vomit smell when walking up the steps or inside the club?

I can't imagine a scenario where one is not safer from an attempted mugging when in a large group. I did not notice any strange odors when going up the stairs to Space.

[Adinga]

It gets very shady right outside of the Wall area after 9 pm.

Watch out for drug dealers (cocaine) and corrupt cops looking for the inexperienced tourists. There are plenty of taxis outside of the entrance.

[Rzrfl69]

Love the way this exchange rate is going!

Yeah being out 3 am in a foreign city associated with these activities you need to watch yourself. That's all. Know how your leaving the club. Where to get the taxi so your not wandering around. Stay near public spaces. Always have eyes in the back of your head pretty much. I love using a money clip. Keep it in my front pocket with hand over it as I'm pretty much anywhere. Paper copy of.

Passport.

Knowing the layout of the streets and not getting to hammered is key.

[Mr Enternational]

Tu Candela which used to be a freelancer hotspot was dead. LDV is way more packed than Space, which is the reason I prefer Space. Both are smaller than I imagined, especially Space. They both looked like regular civie bars-no stage, no pole, no erotic art. You would think you were in a normal neighborhood lounge, except for the young chicas that constantly are smiling at you. They dress normally, in tight dresses, skirts and tops, jeans, sneakers and such. None walk around in lingerie or bare their tits or anything like that. They are way less aggressive than I imagined.

In what freelancer bar on this planet are there stages with poles and porn on the wall and chicks walking around in lingerie or bare chested? A freelancer bar is a normal neighborhood lounge or disco that has normally-dressed chicks that will leave with you for money.

Being a hardcore Tijuana monger, it is so refreshing to see normal looking putas instead of the sleezy, topless, aggressive putas of Hong Kong and Adelitas. That kind of shit turns me off, some chubby puta just coming up to me grinding then asking for tip even though I was repulsed by the experience. In Space / LDV it feels like a normal bar, but you can have just about any chica you want for a price. They don't nag for drinks or tips. I'd like to go back but no way will I go solo.

IMHO Tijuana is doo doo for mongering. I always say if you happen to be in San Diego yes, but no need to make a special trip there when there are much better places. You don't see the European or Australian members of this board making a bee line for Tijuana. If you went to Brazil or Thailand you would probably lose your mind.

[Nypher]

I spent this past Sat / Sun / Mon / Tues evenings in CTG. Stayed at one of Juan's places, $75 usd for two bed. It was okay, unspectacular but I'd stay there again mainly for the chica-liberal policy. Visited the clock tower every night. I was physically threatened in attempted robberies two out of four nights. I was also assaulted in an attempted robbery inside a Bogota bar which I will write about shortly in the Bogota subforum. I'll start off this TR with the details of the CTG attempted robberies because I want to keep mongers safe..

When was the last time you were in Colombia? Things have changed with the increased Venezuelan presence and pandemic lockdown.

I'm not sure why a gringo would be outside at 3 am walking around in Centro but to each their own.

I'm going to guess that you went into these clubs in Centro expecting a working girl house or a strip club since you mentioned the absence of a stage, a pole and girls walking around in lingerie jajaja.

How does 6 people "suddenly" surround you and your wingman? Its not like they jump over the wall and sneak up behind you or jumped down from the trees or crawled out of the bushes. Its sounding like both you and your wingman was under the influence and these guys saw an opportunity and took it.

Well look on the bright side, the girls didn't drug and rob you, you didn't have any altercation with the police which resulted you in paying a large bribe jajaja.

No one needs a large group to walk around for safety.

Does Space still have that vomit smell when walking up the steps or inside the club?

[Hellooh]

Thanks, I had a great time. I just got their WhatsApp number but I kind of knew that they may change their number and I noticed they are so irresponsible with everything they do. They actually do not have my US number as I got a sim card from there and used that whatsapp number. I didn't want them contact me on my private number. No strings attached.

But you seem to be going there very frequently. I am sure you have decoded how they work and figured out a way to work around them. It was my first time and I really enjoyed it. Maybe time will get me in the loop. I actually followed suggestion and tips from here and I was able to figure out what areas to avoid going and where to go to have fun.

I may not be a good bargainer but got lucky with all the chicas I had the entire time I stayed there. They were all very nice and treated me right, no rushing and very easy going. They did what I asked for and went beyond. Not sure if the chicas there usually this nice or I just got lucky? BTW I am also very friendly person and down to earth.

Looks like you had a blast and ended it with the outlook of returning even before you boarded the plane to leave jajaaj. Those the good trips we all hope to have when we land. No drama, no fuss, just fun in the sun jajaja.

That plane landing in front of your plane can be frustrating! This is why I usually take the first available flight and sometimes I get lucky and first but sometimes I land second and its a long wait.

My advice to you, from years of doing Latin America, forget about her WhatApp number. Get her Instagram name. These girls are notorious for loosing their phones or changing their numbers every 3 months. Now the funny thing is that many of these girls are running around with iPhones but they never have iCloud on or back up the Whatsapp contacts. So when the phone gets lost, damaged or stolen they have to get a new one with a new number and loose all their contacts. But to be honest a year from now, if you do return, high chance you will find something new that excites you just a much and you will forget about her. If she's still talking to you after you left CTG start counting the days until she asks you to send money because of an emergency. They can smell when a gringo is new and will try it, I'm not going to lie, I do send a little maybe twice a year per chica (birthday / Christmas) but these are girls I've know for years who hardly charge me when I'm there a few times every year.

[Rzrfl69]

And El Paraiso del Marino? Is that a strip club? Or a regular night club type? Google reviews and videos make it look like a club you mingle with girls. Saw one member here posting about it. Would love to know more.

[ClamSlammer]

I spent this past Sat / Sun / Mon / Tues evenings in CTG. Stayed at one of Juan's places, $75 usd for two bed. It was okay, unspectacular but I'd stay there again mainly for the chica-liberal policy. Visited the clock tower every night. I was physically threatened in attempted robberies two out of four nights. I was also assaulted in an attempted robbery inside a Bogota bar which I will write about shortly in the Bogota subforum. I'll start off this TR with the details of the CTG attempted robberies because I want to keep mongers safe.

I'm slightly above average height and average build. My wingman is small in stature. Both of us are several years younger than the average monger on this board. We are both obvious foreigners in Colombia. We were walking around the walled city about 3 am early Sun, about 3 blocks from Space / LDV. We were approached by a pair of twins. Thin build, 21-ish, pretty, dark hair, had big tatts in middle of chests. They were pretty aggressive in trying to get us to take them back. One kept on hugging me, I had to repeatedly check my pockets each time. They said we could go back to our hotel room or theirs. Which I found awkward. Anyway, after about 10 minutes of resisting their overtures, a local, late 20's, athletic build, maybe 6'2" 210 lbs walks by and asks in English if I have a problem in a hostile tone. I told him no, I don't have a problem. He continues and insists that I look like I have a problem. I again say everything is fine. He continues and one of the twins asks if I know him. I tell her no, and she asks him what his problem is. He answers in Spanish that I owe him drug money. I don't ever touch illegal drugs. I thought that he may have confused me with someone that I resemble that actually did owe him money. But if he is going to front drugs to someone, it will be someone whom he knows well, someone he is not going to confuse with someone else. I think claiming a drug debt was a precursor to a robbery. We walked away casually and he did not pursue.

2nd attempted robbery was early Tues around 3:15 am after the clubs closed. Me and my wing exited the walled city and crossed the street. There is a wide pedestrian walkway that spans the entire block. To the right is a lineup of taxis. To the left are cars and not too many people. We were about halfway down the walkway on the left side waiting for an Uber when we were suddenly surrounded by 6 locals. They were teenagers to early 20's. One said to my wingman, "give me all you got if you don't want problems" in English. A skinny younger kid approached me and said something I did not understand. One of them knocked my phone out of my hand onto the ground near one of the thugs. Surprisingly, the thug didn't attempt to grab it. I quickly lunged for my phone, grabbed it, and we both walked away towards the clock tower where there were more people around. The thugs did not pursue.

Anyway, if you are planning to go to CTG just be careful and stick around the immediate area of the entry to the walled city and Space / LDV. Don't go walking around exploring unless you're part of a larger group.

More details about my trip. On Saturday night, the entrance to the tower was packed with freelancers. Many waving Hi as I walked by. Space and LDV are the places to go. There are also freelancers in Delirium but it's more of a gangsta rap type atmosphere which does not appeal to me. We went to a couple other clubs like Alquimico but they seemed to cater more towards civies. Tu Candela which used to be a freelancer hotspot was dead. Apparently to get a table in Space / LDV you must order a bottle. LDV is way more packed than Space, which is the reason I prefer Space. Both are smaller than I imagined, especially Space. They both looked like regular civie bars-no stage, no pole, no erotic art. You would think you were in a normal neighborhood lounge, except for the young chicas that constantly are smiling at you. They dress normally, in tight dresses, skirts and tops, jeans, sneakers and such. None walk around in lingerie or bare their tits or anything like that. They are way less aggressive than I imagined. Most of them will only smile, the bold ones may approach you and say Hi. I've only encountered a handful that got handsy with me. There was one that piqued my interest, pale skin, kinda squinty eyes, thin with no visible tatts. Her distinctive trait were her bangs, which were a bit too long and partially covered her eyes. Those of you familiar with the recent scene will instantly know who I'm talking about because of her bangs. I saw her 3 nights. The first two nights she was by herself. Just walking outside Space and then dancing by herself inside. I thought it was odd a chica would come down by herself since they almost always hang with their amigas. But then the 3rd night she was with a dark skinned amiga, who motioned me over after catching me numerous times staring at the bang chica. I rarely approach putas so I stayed put. Missed my chance and now feeling some remorse.

Went to PleyClub I think it was Saturday night. They insisted on proof of vaccination upon entry. No cover. About 12 chicas. Just about all of them came by our table to introduce themselves at one point or another. Beers were $200 k iirc. Wasn't too impressed so we left for the torre.

Overall, I love the Space / LDV scene. Being a hardcore Tijuana monger, it is so refreshing to see normal looking putas instead of the sleezy, topless, aggressive putas of Hong Kong and Adelitas. That kind of shit turns me off, some chubby puta just coming up to me grinding then asking for tip even though I was repulsed by the experience. In Space / LDV it feels like a normal bar, but you can have just about any chica you want for a price. They don't nag for drinks or tips. I'd like to go back but no way will I go solo.

[Nypher]

Anyone been to isis in the last year? I think it's a new name now. Just thinking of trying different things this trip I never did. Never actually went to it, always avoided hahahahha. Do girls actually dance? Can you chill and have a beer or two?

Definitely going to try hitting up this massage parlor I saw last time near the clock tower. Had some good looking girls. Going in middle of day after lunch. Getting a ok massage and tugged and then walking right out in a busy walking street sounds like fun! Hahaha.

I forgot to include the photo I took that night when my chica and I went looking for it. Funny thing is that I walked by there 2 nights later and the sign was gone. It was jut a black square so I don't know if they put it back up.