Cartagena Reports

[Dublin12]

No Mr E is not right all the time. Hillbilly and World Traveller or know a lot more about Colombia than this guy ever will. Mojo knows a bit, these are all timers. If you're a fool you're going to get played for your money And even worse if you're cheap fool you're going to get taken for everything. Equivalence of $100 for one day is absurd as a matter of fact I'm not even sure if these posts are not even made up I don't see anything in any of that report to make me believe that this trip by Dublin actually even happened.

I've already made an offer of forwarding on the emails to the Irish Embassy when I asked them for assistance. I can also forward on the emails for my air ticket as well as the Airbnb. Will that convince you? And the ticket home I bought In Col. These are all date stamped.

[Dublin12]

I usually won't criticize people.

But with the message "avoid Colombia like a plague".

Only two things is more than enough to survive in any place, listen to people who has already learned by their mistakes and bad experiences! 2nd not to break the golden rules of mongering!

I don't speak a word of Spanish, still I survived in Colombia! If I can, anyone can!

I roamed around alone in Santa Fe around mid-night Bogota)!! Following the rules. How to be safe!! I am not going there to show I am brave. I am going there to enjoy my hobby!

Again. 1800 $ a month for a girl? I am not sure if you are aware of the below facts.

1) an average rent for a month in Colombia is 250000 - 300000 Pesos.

2) a poor family. Won't earn more than 500000 pesos a month.

3) Cartagena is the most expensive place as far as I know, for girls in strip clubs, 300000 pesos.

4) Medellin. Most of the strip clubs at the time of closing, some girls will be happy to come to your room for 150-200 K whole night!

4) if I want to wife -up a girl for a month, the max I offer may be 500 $.

If we behave like an idiot!! We will be a failure anywhere we go! Even in the middle of the most civilized world!

I shall try to deal with your points accordingly.

If you look at my earlier posts on the issue of "compensation" and $1800 + shopping trips was mentioned several times. That was my pre-planned budget. Some said it could be done for that, and others expressed their doubts. I am not sure of the point you are making, but I had a price in mind, and others suggested I could spend less. I was not there to see just how cheaply I could do it. If a girl does what I require, I pay my price, which I am led to believe is not an unfair price. My conscience is clear on my spending habits. BTW I've seen posts on here recently where people have said that Cartagena is no longer a mongering hotspot because of the prices. I think that it is not the price that dictates whether it is a mongering destination, but the availability of women. Of course, if mongering is all about cheap sex only, then I am wrong.

Regarding cost of living etc, I was aware. I read on Google that the ave wage was about $500 per month, however Mr E, came up with $221. Other sources agreed with this. Regardless, you cannot say that $1800 is a bad score.

I've never been a fan of the, "If I can do it, anyone can" suggestion. I used to hear it a lot from my sister, who has had a financially successful life. When I heard her make the point once too often, I asked her to tell me what 73 X47 equalled without using a calculator. I am very good at mental arithmetic. She couldn't answer. I then said to her, "If I can do it, then anyone can". The truth is that some people can adapt to some situations better than others, and that's why I have never been a fan of such claims.

I don't frequent strip clubs.

$500? How does my offer of $1800 + shopping etc, make me the bad guy? Is the suggestion that I was victimised because of my generosity?

[Sammon]

Hi,

Me and a friend are planning a trip to Cartagena in January for about 8 days. We are debating whether to Airbnb it or take advantage of the services provided here.

https://colombiaeroticvacations.com/

Has anyone ever used these services? It seems a bit pricy but if it's good we don't care. I've scoured most of the forums couldn't find anything. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Rates are under $200 per day all inclusive. Not sure payment for girl is included. If so it is a great deal. Maybe can change girl each day.

[Dublin12]

I doubt you can actually find the best lobster by just using Google.

You are probably right. However, the Google pages also carry reviews by customers. That was why I suggested it to begin with. The OP was looking for info from mongers. Nobody came forward. I had a look. There were restos with reviews, which is what I thought the OP was looking for. Silly me.

[Dublin12]

I had to suspend disbelief to read Dublin's story, but it was wildly entertaining even if not a word was true. Bravo to you sir. Would happily read another.

I accept that my post was not going to show me in a good light. The reason I posted was that I was under an obligation to make a trip report to those who had given me useful advice. If I'd told you anything else other than this, that would have been dishonest. I am sure you are aware that the difference between truth and fiction, is that fiction has to be believable.

So what would convince you? How about my email to the Irish Embassy asking them for help in contacting KLM so that I could get an early flight booked. Although it doesn't have the same explicit detail as my TR, it does give the basic details about my doping and robbery, and in a later reply to them a couple of days later, report of my having been extorted by the cops. I am not going to publish it on here because it contains personal identifiers. But if there is someone who is prepared to act as honest broker, I will forward the chain onto them so they can confirm that I had already reported my case to the Embassy. I assume that the person selected will not republish.

[Dublin12]

That was the joke Mojo LOL. The only person who responded (I won't say his / her name. Only that their name rhymes with "Bublin12") was dismissive and told me in a not so kind way to refrain from asking such questions on this board.

My response to you was not dismissive and did not tell you to refrain from posting such questions on this board. That is a figment of your imagination or just outright dishonesty your part. As nobody else had any suggestions, I told you there were plenty on Google. My post was entirely in good faith. You assumed that I was having a go at you, and made a snarky reply. That's the real truth.

Why don't you look at the post again, and then you can show everybody where I was "dismissive", "unkind", told you to "to refrain from asking such questions on this board"?

Let me know when you find it please?

[JoeRoc]

Well there has been plenty of discussions about food and restaurants in these threads, though these usually get answered faster and generate more discussion when the person posting the question has contributed mongering information before. Just becuase its not so out of the blue.

Thank you for explaining this to me.

[Mojo Bandit]

That was the joke Mojo LOL. The only person who responded (I won't say his / her name. Only that their name rhymes with "Bublin12") was dismissive and told me in a not so kind way to refrain from asking such questions on this board. I must say I was discouraged by this interaction and I was not going to provide my own trip report because of that. But seeing how poorly that person's trip went, and how well mine went, I will be uploading mine very soon.

And thank you Mojo, I had such a great time in Cartagena I will be returning next month and I will continue my search for the best grilled lobster.

Well there has been plenty of discussions about food and restaurants in these threads, though these usually get answered faster and generate more discussion when the person posting the question has contributed mongering information before. Just becuase its not so out of the blue.

[JoeRoc]

I had to suspend disbelief to read Dublin's story, but it was wildly entertaining even if not a word was true. Bravo to you sir. Would happily read another.

I went back and read his posts from January of this year and I believe every single word of this report. And as disagreeable as I find him to be, I'm glad I he posted an honest review because I can see vividly the mistakes I need to avoid when I move around CTG solo.

This is a 68 year old man who did not speak the language and who was drugged on his first night and still powered through. And somehow was still robbed by nearly every person he interacted with, including the airport security (jajajajaja caridad! Caridad! A wiser man would've headed back to Ireland as soon as they had enough money to buy a ticket after being drugged, but this guy went and took some more lickins. If he had stayed longer they would've built statues of him in the Clock Tower for his generosity.

There are no shortage of lessons to be learned from Dublin's report. The biggest for me as a young monger is to always have a contact that you can trust and knows how to speak the language, and to also heed the advice of the OGs on these boards. If you have not been to the country and someone like TallMan Mr E or Kafka tells you not to do something while you are there it is in your best interest not to do it. The consequences of not listening can be severe.

[PerkinWarbeck]

I had to suspend disbelief to read Dublin's story, but it was wildly entertaining even if not a word was true. Bravo to you sir. Would happily read another.

[JoeRoc]

I doubt you can actually find the best lobster by just using Google.

That was the joke Mojo LOL. The only person who responded (I won't say his / her name. Only that their name rhymes with "Bublin12") was dismissive and told me in a not so kind way to refrain from asking such questions on this board. I must say I was discouraged by this interaction and I was not going to provide my own trip report because of that. But seeing how poorly that person's trip went, and how well mine went, I will be uploading mine very soon.

And thank you Mojo, I had such a great time in Cartagena I will be returning next month and I will continue my search for the best grilled lobster.

[Mojo Bandit]

I remember I asked where the best lobster place was in Cartagena and someone (I won't say who) was very unkind and dismissive to me in their response. I believe they told me to Google. I just returned from CTG and I had a blast to the point where I was depressed the last 2 days because I did not want to leave. The sole "bad" part of my trip was the lobster that I had at Playa Hollywood, very rubbery and forgettable. I will be back in Cartagena in October, I will take the suggestion of the person who I shall not name and google the best grilled lobster place in the city.

I doubt you can actually find the best lobster by just using Google. I think I would start by looking at TripAdvisor, from which I will list the top 6 following places as being highly rated and serve lobster. Its hard to find ratings on just the lobster. I copied and pasted the addresses straight from TripAdvisor so they may not be listed exactly right. Another option is to find an Cartagena expat group and join up and ask questions there - that is one of the best sources for that type of information

La Pica. Calle Estanco del Aguardiente Calle 38 #5-74.

Moshi. Calle 38 #8-19 Calle del Santsimo.

Porton de San Sebastian. Calle 35 No. 3-63 (Near Plaza Santo Domingo).

Cuzco Cocina Peruana. Carrera 3 33 48 Centro Histrico.

La Cevicheria. Calle Stuart 714.

Restaurante Cande. Barrio San Diego, Cra 10 No 39-02 Centro Histrico.

[Mike963]

I usually won't criticize people.

But with the message "avoid Colombia like a plague".

Only two things is more than enough to survive in any place, listen to people who has already learned by their mistakes and bad experiences! 2nd not to break the golden rules of mongering!

I don't speak a word of Spanish, still I survived in Colombia! If I can, anyone can!

I roamed around alone in Santa Fe around mid-night Bogota)!! Following the rules. How to be safe!! I am not going there to show I am brave. I am going there to enjoy my hobby!

Again. 1800 $ a month for a girl? I am not sure if you are aware of the below facts.

1) an average rent for a month in Colombia is 250000 - 300000 Pesos.

2) a poor family. Won't earn more than 500000 pesos a month.

3) Cartagena is the most expensive place as far as I know, for girls in strip clubs, 300000 pesos.

4) Medellin. Most of the strip clubs at the time of closing, some girls will be happy to come to your room for 150-200 K whole night!

4) if I want to wife -up a girl for a month, the max I offer may be 500 $.

If we behave like an idiot!! We will be a failure anywhere we go! Even in the middle of the most civilized world!

Further to my most recent post, I promised a trip report. I thought you might be interested in hearing of my misadventures. This rapidly became the holiday in hell.

I won't bore you with all the problems I had trying to book this, but between my bank, the credit card co, and Colombian bureaucracy, I should have taken the hint, that this was never going to end well.

So I finally arrive in Colombia and on my first night, I meet one of the very few natives, Angela who can speak English. I have a plan which usually works very well in TH. Try to find one girl to "wife up for the duration" I am offering 1800 USD ($65 per night = 250000 Colombian pesos) plus daily shopping trips for about another (100 k per day) $850 in total as well as random acts of generosity. Angela is interested.

She just about passes the probationary period. Then she starts to claim that I had promised her $250 USD per night. If I did, then you might wonder why she never raised the issue when I gave 250 k the previous two nights? I tell her she doesn't have to stay, she then decides she might have made a mistake..

[Kafka]

No Mr E is not right all the time. Hillbilly and World Traveller or know a lot more about Colombia than this guy ever will. Mojo knows a bit, these are all timers. If you're a fool you're going to get played for your money And even worse if you're cheap fool you're going to get taken for everything. Equivalence of $100 for one day is absurd as a matter of fact I'm not even sure if these posts are not even made up I don't see anything in any of that report to make me believe that this trip by Dublin actually even happened.

As far as mongering is concerned. Mr E is always right and I will listen to him even he said something I don't want to hear. This has already been said to him before he came visit but he choose to listen to what he wants to hear and think something like robbery is not a concern. But it is a great report that can be made into a movie.

My post is not to criticize Dublin, but I think people should listen to what Mr E says. I think he can have a youtube channel and charge for his advices that we get here for free.

[Elvis 2008]

The cultural difference between Asia and the Americas is something a friend of mine talked about before. He said he could leave his sunglasses on a train in Japan and come back a week later and find them there. No one would steal his glasses he told me. The irony is that in Japan around the same time there was a company pushing bonds that were fraudulently valued in order to save the honor of the company. The notion then that there was no stealing in Japan was BS. It was just going on at the highest level. China has no debt on its national balance sheet. They just push it down to the state and city level. I am not sure then that I find the notion of the citizens not stealing while the government and huge corporations do that refreshing.

On an individual basis, I have been impressed with the intelligence, kindness, and work ethic of the Colombians I have met. Given how rich Colombia is in resources, I have asked why it is so poor, and everyone has told me the same thing: corruption.

When I was engaged to a Venezuelan woman who broke it off, I blamed the nature of her country as part of the reason. She was too focused on the short term, and she admitted that she was. How can you plan for the future when there was no future in Venezuela? Long term relationships were for suckers. Thing is that Venezuela historically looked at Colombia as the black sheep in the family. Venezuela historically had its shit together while Colombia was hooked on drugs. It is only recently the roles have reversed.

The rule of thumb I would say for any guy looking for anything long term with any woman in Colombia is if she has not been in college or going to college is just forget it. For more experienced mongers who are more able to distinguish between hos and normal gals, that is not the case but you have to be honest with how experienced you are.

Most Colombian women are going to be very, very short term oriented, and it is not just the girls but their families. I broke it off with a Medellin woman a few months ago, and her sister hit me up to pay for a trip of hers. I had to tell the sister no and that we had broken up. Then the ex asked for a money a month later, and I told her no. LOL.

Thing is that if Asia has the higher classes willing to steal and the lower classes do not, you could make a case that the opposite is somewhat true in Colombia. Thing is that the truly higher class women in Colombia want to distinguish themselves from the working girl types and they do that by not asking for money or going for it in the short term. They are there, but they are rare.

Thing is that not one of these women I met would go for this paying by the day stuff. To me, that is like saying the woman is a more trustworthy ho and that ranks up their with other paradoxical phrases like jumbo shrimp and army intelligence. You cannot turn a ho into a GF and most times you cannot even turn them into a sugar baby. With hos, you have to pay as you go / fuck. That is all they understand.