Cartagena Reports

[Black Page]

JaJa, no I was not kidding.

I'll share my attorney amiga in exchange! She's great in bed; not sure how good she is with contracts, lol.

Plus I'm certain that fine ass needs some rubbing while your away. I promise to just keep her on simmer until your return, lol.

She promised to wait for me.

[Hilltopper]

You must be kidding.

I love her. I can't bear the idea someone else be naughty with her.

JaJa, no I was not kidding.

I'll share my attorney amiga in exchange! She's great in bed; not sure how good she is with contracts, lol.

Plus I'm certain that fine ass needs some rubbing while your away. I promise to just keep her on simmer until your return, lol.

[Black Page]

Very nice, indeed! Viva Cartagena! Just have her hangout with you there for a couple more weeks and I'll be sure to pick-up where you left off. <said with sheepish grin>

Keep on keeping on!

You must be kidding.

I love her. I can't bear the idea someone else be naughty with her.

[Hilltopper]

Your comment was not directed at me, but your smart ass remark to Hilltopper was not necessary and really uncalled for. Hilltopper does not claim to be a King of anything, but he is very well informed on what is happening in Cartagena, and is always willing to share useful information with others that is accurate. I hope like I hell I run into you someday myself, since I travel frequently between Santa Marta and Cartagena, and we will see what kind of a smartasss you are. I am pretty sure you would not talk to me like you are to Hilltopper on this forum. Post your travel dates to Cartagena in the Travel Annoucement thread, and I then can contact you via the personal messaging.

Don't know where Joey got that I was trolling a comment of his from a month ago. I saw it and used it from a discussion this week where YouCan quoted something from Joey. Even if I or anyone else quoted something from a month or even further back, so what? All that means is that one actually takes the time to read back through older posts to glean info. Hell, I wish more people took the time to read back through older posts; there's much there to be learned, especially posts from the 2006 - 2009 period of time.

Old Parr, you are certainly right, I don't claim to be a King of anything, and I certainly don't make the rules here on this forum, in CTG or anywhere else other than in my own house (although I do admit to liking it when a Colombiana calls me "mi rey", LOL) . Thank you for the kind words.

Joey, if you are reading, all I was doing was basically trying to get you to walk in another man's shoes to understand a point of view. You indicate you have an apartment in CTG, I asked if you would like it if people stayed there for free, not paying you rent. Just trying to use an analogy to get you to consider another viewpoint toward Aldo attempting to get some guys to buy drinks when they patronize LDV.

I remember when you said some renter did something to your apartment and you couldn't rent it out for awhile. You referred to the guy as "some asshole". I assumed the derogatory reference included the fact that the guy caused you lost rent. Knowing how you felt when you couldn't rent out your apartment and lost rents is how another guy feels when someone else takes advantage of the goods and services he's trying to provide and doesn't want to provide any economic benefit in return.

That's all that I tried to do. How you got "troll", "King of Cartagena" and my "rules" from my question to you is beyond me. Maybe you started early on that bottle or something? <humor attempt> .

[Hilltopper]

That's nice! I been here 3 days. Great weather. Has been windy at beach a couple days. Only Tuesday was to windy for beach. All clubs are popping met some good guys this trip.

Good to hear! Was windy a couple of weeks ago as well, but I personally like the Feb to Mar breeze as it tends to break-up the humidity, especially in the night. Actually enjoyed wearing a long-sleeve shirt one night on last visit.

[Hilltopper]

There's something I like in CTG.

Very nice, indeed! Viva Cartagena! Just have her hangout with you there for a couple more weeks and I'll be sure to pick-up where you left off. <said with sheepish grin>

Keep on keeping on!

[You Can]

That's nice! I been here 3 days. Great weather. Has been windy at beach a couple days. Only Tuesday was to windy for beach. All clubs are popping met some good guys this trip.

There's something I like in CTG.

[Beach1708]

There's something I like in CTG.

That is very likable!

Good work on that one it looks top shelf.

[Black Page]

There's something I like in CTG.

[Old Parr]

Not sure why you trolled my comment from over a month ago. Didn't realize you were the King of the Cartagena section. My apologies if your rules don't apply to me. I'll buy you a bottle when I visit LDV at the end of March. Let's clear the air over drinks.

Your comment was not directed at me, but your smart ass remark to Hilltopper was not necessary and really uncalled for. Hilltopper does not claim to be a King of anything, but he is very well informed on what is happening in Cartagena, and is always willing to share useful information with others that is accurate. I hope like I hell I run into you someday myself, since I travel frequently between Santa Marta and Cartagena, and we will see what kind of a smartasss you are. I am pretty sure you would not talk to me like you are to Hilltopper on this forum. Post your travel dates to Cartagena in the Travel Annoucement thread, and I then can contact you via the personal messaging.

[Joey Smith]

Then the question begs: Is it okay for the maid and others there in your building to let folks always stay at your apartment in Laguito for free, or do you charge something to rent out your place in an effort to turn a profit? If your apartment is an investment rental property for you, then I presume you are in it to turn a profit, yes?

In the 8 years I've been going to LDV and known the owner, Aldo, he has been in the business to turn a profit. Like most business owners, you sometimes have to implement changes and tweak your business model. What happens when too many guys only want to pull chicas and not patronize the bar? What happens if every guy only goes to LDV to hook-up with chicas and get numbers, but spends nothing?

I have no empathy for guys who want to complain about someone at LDV telling them they need to drink. Duh! In all the times I've been there I have never had a word mentioned to me. Why? Because I order something to drink upon arrival; that's what one does at a bar, LOL. If I were to rent your apartment, I'd pay you rent; I presume that's what one does when they stay at your apartment.

Not sure why you trolled my comment from over a month ago. Didn't realize you were the King of the Cartagena section. My apologies if your rules don't apply to me. I'll buy you a bottle when I visit LDV at the end of March. Let's clear the air over drinks.

[LocoGringo]

He's never been a popular guy. Known him a long time, never liked his style. Then again, if he is a pimp what is the mansion? Nobody likes poor old black Tony but it's Colombia, pimps in the University, etc. I actually talked to him the only time I was there in 9 months. He seems to be doing well, also the late night place in the old city. Remember folks, the greatest natural resource in Colombia is the chicas. Exported all over Latin america and a few in the USA.

[Hilltopper]

Sorry Topper, this one is a lot simpler than you make it out to be.

As I am sure, the bar is not a non profit bar, asking or requiring the ladies to hustle drinks or enforce some kind of minimum consumption turns Aldo into a pimp and his bar into a working girl house. Although this may already be the case, the better way to handle this is have a cover charge or a minamum consumption entrance requirement. Thus the bar is behaving like a bar and the working girls are just that, independent working girls and not agents of Aldo.

Amigo, good to read a post from you here. I agree that it's much simpler than I made it out to be in my post. Old Parr put it much simpler than me: require the peso pinchers to fork over 50 to 100 mil upfront. I personally think they should just pass on LDV and go straight to the clock tower or take a stroll down AV San Martin, etc. I disagree that Aldo's encouraging the independent contractors to assist patrons to drink (some or more) turns him into a pimp. Why do I disagree? Because encouraging independent contractors (who can act in an agency capacity) to help sell more drinks is not Aldo taking a % of what the working girl charges for her services. As I believe you know, to be classified as a pimp, one receives a cut off-the-top from what the girl directly charges the customer for her services. Independent contractors encouraging patrons to order a drink or more drinks is not unheard of in drinking establishments and it doesn't automatically turn the bar owner into a pimp, LOL.

Seriously, I find it humorous that guys actually go to a bar and then complain that the bar expects them to drink or encourages them to drink. I often run into these types of guys, be it here in the States doing business, or in Colombia trying to enjoy the spoils. Everything is all about them. If they are providing goods and services, they want top dollar. If someone else is providing them goods and services, they want it for free or for next to nothing. Their way of winning is "I win, you lose". It's always about beating someone out of something with such a mindset. They can't grasp the concept of a win-win situation. They can't grasp paying or giving someone else a fair shake. I'm not talking about being generous, giving someone something to show appreciation, or anything remotely close to such a notion, 'cause those are all foreign concepts, lol. Greed on tilt, amigo, greed on tilt. Much like Old Parr alluded to in his post, I've grown quite tired of them and I try to minimize my dealings and/or contact with such types.

If I was there, I'd invite you to join me for an espresso. A double that is. On me, of course, as I know you'd return the favor in buying the next one. :)

[El Vagabundo]

Then the question begs: Is it okay for the maid and others there in your building to let folks always stay at your apartment in Laguito for free, or do you charge something to rent out your place in an effort to turn a profit? If your apartment is an investment rental property for you, then I presume you are in it to turn a profit

Sorry Topper, this one is a lot simpler than you make it out to be.

As I am sure, the bar is not a non profit bar, asking or requiring the ladies to hustle drinks or enforce some kind of minimum consumption turns Aldo into a pimp and his bar into a working girl house. Although this may already be the case, the better way to handle this is have a cover charge or a minamum consumption entrance requirement. Thus the bar is behaving like a bar and the working girls are just that, independent working girls and not agents of Aldo.

[Old Parr]

Then the question begs: Is it okay for the maid and others there in your building to let folks always stay at your apartment in Laguito for free, or do you charge something to rent out your place in an effort to turn a profit? If your apartment is an investment rental property for you, then I presume you are in it to turn a profit, yes?

In the 8 years I've been going to LDV and known the owner, Aldo, he has been in the business to turn a profit. Like most business owners, you sometimes have to implement changes and tweak your business model. What happens when too many guys only want to pull chicas and not patronize the bar? What happens if every guy only goes to LDV to hook-up with chicas and get numbers, but spends nothing?

I have no empathy for guys who want to complain about someone at LDV telling them they need to drink. Duh! In all the times I've been there I have never had a word mentioned to me. Why? Because I order something to drink upon arrival; that's what one does at a bar, LOL. If I were to rent your apartment, I'd pay you rent; I presume that's what one does when they stay at your apartment.

Thank you Hilltopper, and I could not have said it better myself. I owe you drinks for this post!

This is why I very seldom let other guys run with me anymore, I have learned my lesson, as I am one of the most generous people you will ever know, as many from this forum will attest to, and because of this, my generosity has been taken advantage of by people when I am out partying, as I do not give a fuk when I am out having a good time, and I never go on vacation if I have to have a tight budget. I have no time for broke ass fuks and peso pinchers.

As far as LDV goes and any similar places, I wish they would implement a cover charge per se of 50,000 to 100,000 pesos and with that you receive bar credits. As this would keep the peso pinchers away.