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  2. #8627

    Well that's the way it began, we were hand-in-hand Reminiscing.

    Thursday afternoon and I am riding a high. Finally relieved of the pressure and strolling back to the condo with a corny song running through my head. Starved for a connection instead of the disconnect I have had for days, I look forward to the upcoming weekend, surely things are on the upswing. Time to get this trip on track.

    I get back to the condo with a smile on my face, delivering the beer and smokes to my wingman who looks like he had some fun too while I was gone. The two of them just lounging on the couch, him watching TV and her playing with her phone.

    I head to my room, lay down some Montana and crack a beer. An hour and a half until her bus leaves, I check in with Maria to see if she is getting to the bus station on time. I am not sure I am going to come today she says. Claudia told me 200,000 ($72) a day and I am not sure that is enough for me. I am a Colombian not a Venezuelan.

    Considering what happened the last few nights with a lack of clarity, it's time to get things straight or just move on to the next one. I don't like that she decides to bring up the money issue so late in the process, we already talked about this. It has put me on the defensive and makes me wonder what I am dealing with. Is she going to play games the entire stay? Is the ball going to move at every turn, every request? I am thinking maybe I should just bail out and move on.

    I lay out the basics of what I am looking for, no condom blowjobs and sex at least 3 times a day with zero drama. I will cover the bus ride and taxi to get her here and at any point I am not happy, I will pay you what I owe you and send you packing. How much per day do you want to make you happy?

    She says 300,000 ($107) would be good for her and help with her school bills. I tell her that is fine but I expect to made extra happy at all times and remind her again, if at any point I don't think you are earning your money, I will send you away. No problem, I promise you will be happy. Fine, get on the bus and get your ass over here I tell her. She asks if it's OK if she brings Cheech and Chong with her, that she likes to smoke a little. I tell her no problem. She texts me 40 minutes later, she is at the bus station waiting for the bus, see me in 2 hours.

    I spend that time cleaning up my space, taking a shower and shaving while I wait. Maybe it's the Montana but I am now getting edgy, resenting the last minute stick up. The kind of antics I usually don't put up with and especially surprised since she came recommended from a girlfriend. It is not about the money that is bugging me, it's still a good rate, it is the principal of the matter. I would have happily agreed to it from the beginning but I am put off by the late in the game jacking.

    I got the towels and sheets washed and dried and remake the bed as the text that she has arrived comes. She asks me to meet her downstairs at the street. I tell her no problem and I make sure I have small bills in my pockets to cover the taxi. I bump a few more lines, take a 100 MG blue genie and then do something I have not done in 10 years, I invite wingman to join me and we shotgun a beer. It goes down quick and smooth, rather refreshing. I tell wingman she is on the way and I am going down to meet her. He says he won't be here when I come back up, he will take his girl to the pool so we can have some privacy for a few hours to let her settle in. I head downstairs.

    As I hit the street I realize I have the perfect buzz going. Perfect equilibrium of the substances in my body at that point, I feel good. Buzz factor is a 9 out of 10. Taxi shows up and I open her door to retrieve her and pay the taxi. She has already paid him, nice move I think to myself, not expecting me to handle it. I pull her out of the cab and she is gorgeous. Exactly as her pictures but even better. 20 years old, not as short as I thought her head at my shoulders. Being 6-4 I don't meet many woman that I can kiss without bending over. She is thin, small breast, perfect ass and smelling very nice. She is wearing a half shirt and tight jeans, showing off a perfectly flat stomach with no damage and that ass to die for. She gives me a nice wet kiss on the lips, a short hug and hands me her bag. Damn its heavy and packed to the gills. It's only 3 days baby, what the hell you got in there? I bring her inside the lobby and start to approach the registration desk. He just waves me forward and points to the elevator. Gracias Amigo.

    Up to the condo, I show her our room, offer her some space in the closet and show her the bathroom and tell her if she needs anything, just tell me. I leave her to settle in and head to the patio and put on some music. A few minutes later she joins me and we make small talk for a few minutes. I get her a beer and she rolls herself a joint. We smoke that and she is enjoying the view from the patio, directly on the water and overlooking the beach.

    I'm sitting in a high chair futzing on my phone and she comes over and takes my phone out of my hand and puts it on the table. She wraps her arms around my neck and falls into me for a full body hug. She felt right in my arms, smelled awesome and I push her hair away from her long neck and start kissing and licking her neck and near her ears. She says I have found her weak spot and whispers to me, kiss me handsome. I take my time, removing the hair from her face, taking her face in my hands and kissing her. She was very responsive, kissing me back, quiet moans and heavy breath, pushing her chest out to rub against mine. I got my hands on her ass, lightly cupping and squeezing the cheeks that fit my hands so perfect.

    She says I am making her horny, please take me to bed. I take her to the bedroom and pull the drapes. She is standing beside the bed waiting for me with a smile and come fuck me eyes. I like the fact she is not taking her clothes off, I like to unwrap my own presents. I have a raging hard on but I am going to take my time with this. More french kissing and nibbling, running our hands over each other's bodies. She is trying to pull her top off but I stop her. A wag of the finger to her face, then pointing to myself. She understands, I want to do it myself. She is getting impatient and I am liking it. I spin her around so her back is to me and pull her shirt up over her head. Her arms wrap around my neck as I run my hands over her perfect stomach and nice tits while I nibble on her neck and shoulders. Her nipples are raging and after some tweaking, I reach down and unbuckle her jeans, she lets out a sigh and moan while pushing her ass back against me.

    I spin her back around and she pulls my shirt off then pushes her pert little breasts against my chest. I can feel the heat coming from her body, she starts to work the belt on my pants but I gentle push her back on to the bed and start to pull off her jeans. Ass in air to help and they slide off leaving her small white panties on. She tried to sit up and work my belt again but I just push her back again and nudge her to move up to the top of the bed where the pillows are as I lay down between her legs. Knowing what is coming, she has a huge smile on her face. I start licking her thighs and inside her legs and licking her through her panties. She is totally digging it and tries to pull down her panties, I stop her again and just point to myself. A huge smile and a roll of the eyes as she collapses back against the pillows, letting out a little squeal to let me know she is having fun and spreads her legs a little wider while letting out a moan. I lick and tease her for a while through her panties, my hands rubbing softly across her flat stomach and brushing across her rock hard nipples.

    I pull her panties off and she props some pillows up so she can watch. What a beautiful pussy. Totally shaven and small. A perfect slit, no lips sticks out, no roast beef sandwich sticking out. This pussy has not taken a lot of abuse, I could not even see any lips. [Deleted by Admin]. I lick her softly, barely touching her slit. Letting some drool drip from my mouth and slide down her opening. Her moans and heavy breathing is cheering me on. Her hands on my head, her fingers gently brushing through my hair. She is pushing her ass up to try and get some tongue, she is getting impatient. I give her some stiff tongue running up and down her slit and start licking her clit, alternating between that and her small tight and tasty hole. Her soft hands are starting to turn to hand grips, trying to control my head and push my face into her crotch. Her breathing is rapid now and I sense she is close to cumming. With long tongue strokes from bottom to top, her hands on my head and hips thrusting, she screams something in Spanish and makes a frantic up and down motion with her hips while cumming hard as I stay on her clit.

    As she finishes coming, her legs are shaking and she can longer take any licking. I know she really came from how overly sensitive she got there and I enjoy just brushing my tongue and lips across her pussy as she shakes and moans. She pulls me up and I am holding myself above her with my arms while I kiss her. She sucks her juice off my lips, moaning and licking her own lips. I lay down beside her, my head on her chest, playing with her nipples and giving her a moment to rest. She pushes me back to get up. I roll onto my back figuring she wants to get out bed but no, she just wants to take her turn. She pulls my pants and underwear off and just stares at my hard on. I am throbbing and he is dancing around, inviting her. She laughs as I make it move without touching it and grabs it in her hand.

    She gets on all fours between my legs, I can see her perfect heart shaped ass peaking up and she lowers her head into my lap. She follows my lead and takes her time, teasing and licking me while alternating some mouth action and full strokes down to half way on my throbbing manhood. She almost never breaks eye contact the entire time she is giving me head. A beautiful smile, alluring eyes and a sexy look. She knows I am watching and she is putting on a show, just like I had done. She would dribble some drool out of her mouth, allowing it to run down the entire length of my shaft, before licking it up from the bottom to the top, all while keeping her eyes burned onto mine. Sexy and erotic is the best way to describe the way she was working me. She was completely enjoying herself, enjoyed teasing me and made every effort to let me know it.

    I got my hands on head, not pushing, just following along and using my fingers to keep her hair out of the way. She took my hands in hers and just used her mouth for a while, long deep strokes as far as she could. She could only get about half way before having to retreat for air and to avoid the gag reflex. After a while, I reach to the nightstand and hand her a condom. She smiled from ear to ear, put on the wrap and mounted me. Again, almost never taking her eyes from mine, she was driving me crazy. She rubs the head around her hole and tries to slide down on me but she is a tight fit. A very tight fit. She is reaching behind her to spread her cheeks to try to help but it is still a struggle to get inside her. She wet as the ocean and I am being patient, gently pushing up as she pushes down. She drops her chest to mine, kissing me as she pushes harder to force me inside her. Once I finally am in her fully, she slowly sits up, hands on my chest and gently rocking back and forth, eyes locked on mine, mouth open and looking like an angel.

    She is so tight I can't really stroke at her from here but I don't want to anyway. I am in no rush, enjoying the view and the feeling of the wet grip on my hard on. She starts moving her hips back and forth with more urgency, breath quickening and deepening, obviously her second orgasm is coming. She starts to jack rabbit back and forth and moving her hips side to side, driving me as deep as I can get into her. With a squeal and yelp, she cums again, this one more forceful than the last. Her hair a mess, her smile wide and her lips glistening with spit, she looks so erotic and sexy and I am in heaven.

    She collapses on to my chest, her hands in mine, her sweat dripping from her face into a puddle on my chest. I let her lay there a bit until her breathing drops from the heavy pant to a shallow groan. With a big smile she sits up and kisses me more as I roll her onto her side. Rocking back and forth, legs wrapped around each other in a tangled web and her body fully against mine. Her head laying on my arm, eyes locked on mine when not kissing me. My hands on her ass, pulling her closer and getting deeper inside her, she is thrusting back, moaning and encouraging me to keep moving. Her legs are so tight around mine, I still can't stroke, it feels like my cock is in a vise grip. We rock back and forth and thrust at each other under I finally let loose and drop a load into the condom while inside her. She can feel it throbbing and makes more squeal sounds and closes her eyes, I think she just came with me.

    Exhausted, satisfied and totally drained, I pull off the condom and drop it on the floor besides the bed. We just lay there, me on my back with my arms wrapped around her, her lying beside me with her legs wrapped around mine, her head on my chest and her arm wrapped around my neck. Last I can remember, I am stroking her hair and she is whispering a bunch of Spanish I can't understand, as we both drift off to sleep.

    "Well that's the way it began, we were hand-in-hand" Reminiscing.
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  3. #8626
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    Just compute the exchange rate from the exchange place (COP_out / USD_in) and compare with what you get from an ATM (Servibanca gives 720k COP, thus reducing the impact of any fixed fee).
    Maestro (Mastercard debit card circuit) charges 1.25% or 1.5% over the official inter-bank daily rate). The fixed fees per transaction are usually in range 3-5 USD, or most commonly are in that range, unless one finds special deals. All this is still more convenient than the surcharge applied by most exchange shops (5%? 20% at rip-off booths in airports).
    Just be sure to use the DEBIT and not the CREDIT function, because the latter adds 4% fee.

    There is only one single place I ever visited in the world where I found significant advantage in exchanging USD cash for local currency: Batam, Indonesia. There, exchange shops for large bills can even give nearly the same rate reported by XE, and once in my life even better than that.
    I will use my last trip exchange price and my bank which is Bank of America as an example.

    Exchanging $100 usd, I get 280,000 at kiosk with cash and I get 290,360 at ATM.

    The difference is $3.70 USD.

    The ATM charges me $2.50 or 3.50 depending on which ATM I use.

    My bank charges me $3.50 for using a non network ATM.

    I lose $6 to $7 for using an ATM vs the $3. 70 I lose using the cash exchange.

    Most ATM's cap your withdrawal around the $250 USD limit. (about $8 lost when changing $250 at kiosk).

    As you can see, it all kind of equals out no matter which way you make the transaction.

    In the end, it is not a financial decision, it's a matter of preference, convenience and removing the mistakes and bullshit that happens at foreign ATM's which was what sparked the original conversation.

  4. #8625
    Quote Originally Posted by Linyjo  [View Original Post]
    I agree, it was obvious by the way he framed the question, that he was asking about when you "wife up" with a girl.
    I thought I answered it? 400 k a day. Although if I was going on a trip I would just give a lump sum at the end which is around 200-300 k a day. If in doubt you can just ask her what she expects.

  5. #8624
    Quote Originally Posted by Linyjo  [View Original Post]
    I am probably the minority but I got sick of ATM's that rip you off and bank fees. I just bring $1,000 in $100 bills. Exchange a few hundred at a time at an exchange place and keep the rest in the safe or well hidden in an envelope in the condo.
    Just compute the exchange rate from the exchange place (COP_out / USD_in) and compare with what you get from an ATM (Servibanca gives 720k COP, thus reducing the impact of any fixed fee).
    Maestro (Mastercard debit card circuit) charges 1.25% or 1.5% over the official inter-bank daily rate). The fixed fees per transaction are usually in range 3-5 USD, or most commonly are in that range, unless one finds special deals. All this is still more convenient than the surcharge applied by most exchange shops (5%? 20% at rip-off booths in airports).
    Just be sure to use the DEBIT and not the CREDIT function, because the latter adds 4% fee.

    There is only one single place I ever visited in the world where I found significant advantage in exchanging USD cash for local currency: Batam, Indonesia. There, exchange shops for large bills can even give nearly the same rate reported by XE, and once in my life even better than that.

  6. #8623
    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord1  [View Original Post]
    I think he meant on a trip to another place in the country like Santa Marta or San Andreas.
    I agree, it was obvious by the way he framed the question, that he was asking about when you "wife up" with a girl.

  7. #8622
    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]
    Nothing. I don't pay chicas for company, ever. If one shows up at the beach with her friends she may get some free drinks but I don't pay them to join me there.

    I pay to fuck them. It's 200 k for short time or 400 k as a daily rate (to fuck them). These numbers vary a bit based on the situation but they are generally true for me.
    I think he meant on a trip to another place in the country like Santa Marta or San Andreas.

  8. #8621
    Quote Originally Posted by DeepXliv  [View Original Post]
    How much do you pay the girl per day if you take her on a trip if you've already built a good relationship with her. Obviously we're already taking care of food, accommodations and travel. Just wondering what a good price to look for would be.
    Nothing. I don't pay chicas for company, ever. If one shows up at the beach with her friends she may get some free drinks but I don't pay them to join me there.

    I pay to fuck them. It's 200 k for short time or 400 k as a daily rate (to fuck them). These numbers vary a bit based on the situation but they are generally true for me.

  9. #8620
    Quote Originally Posted by DeepXliv  [View Original Post]
    So just any checking account / debit card that doesn't have international fees is my best option?
    I am probably the minority but I got sick of ATM's that rip you off and bank fees. I just bring $1,000 in $100 bills. Exchange a few hundred at a time at an exchange place and keep the rest in the safe or well hidden in an envelope in the condo. I've never had any issues except my last trip, when I left the well hidden envelope in the condo on check out with $300 in it. Totally my fault, just being a stupid.

    Juan had recovered the envelope by the end of the day and PayPal the money to me the next day. Another reason to stay with the providers that are well represented and reviewed.

  10. #8619
    Quote Originally Posted by Hilltopper  [View Original Post]
    If were to ask me, I wouldn't stay at a hotel if I was looking to bring back a different chica each day, 2 chicas for a 3 some, etc. If I am going the different chica a day, 3 somes, entertain girls back at my place approach, I'd rent an apartment, and just like Linyjo is doing, I'd rent an apartment from Juan or Mery in Laguito. I don't like problems. I don't like hassles. I don't like to overly complicate things. When renting an apartment in CTG, I like to deal with people who have a long-standing solid reputation with many a guy before me and who have apartments in buildings with porteros who are solid, honest guys in buildings who allow guests without hassle or expectation of a greased handshake.
    Totally agree. Many buildings fit this bill. You are not stuck in a single room, usually have a nice patio overlooking the ocean and plenty of room to stretch out and relax. Plus the extra rooms open better opportunities for sex in places besides just on the bed or in the shower.

    You get a full size fridge and can make a few meals if you want. Chicas love to make you food for some reason, to show off their worth I guess. Maid service is cheap, have them come in every few days or in most cases, the girls clean the place up and most places have washer and dryer in unit to clean the sheets.

  11. #8618
    Quote Originally Posted by DeepXliv  [View Original Post]
    How much do you pay the girl per day if you take her on a trip if you've already built a good relationship with her. Obviously we're already taking care of food, accommodations and travel. Just wondering what a good price to look for would be.
    Depends on the relationship you have built. I can only talk about my experiences with girls in Cartagena. I took two trips last year and one trip so far this year with a second one planned for next month. Once I built the relationship with the first girl from last year, I got the benefit this year of her providing a fill in for her since she was out of country when I visited this year.

    Last year, my first trip with Claudia, before we met we agreed on 200,000 ($71) a night for 5 nights. On our second trip she agreed to come for free but I still gave her 1,000,000 ($357) after a 7 night trip. Averaged out to 143,00 ($51) a night.

    This year my trip with Maria started as an agreed 300,000 ($107) a night but after 3 nights, she stayed the last two nights for free. Averaged out to 180,000 ($65) a night. She made me really happy and did some extras, so after tip and travel costs, she got 1,100,000 ($393) for 5 nights, averaged to 220,000 ($79) a night.

    My second trip next month, arrangement is she is coming for free but assuming I am happy at the end, I intend to give her 1,000,000 ($357) for 7 nights, averages to 143,000 ($51) a night, "to help with school expenses".

    Factor in that you buy meals and drinks and pay for entertainment at times, just as you would with your girlfriend. It doesn't add up to much, these girls just eat fruit and chicken so meals are cheap. We buy beer and bottles of alcohol in stores and don't spend much in bars, we party on the patio overlooking the beach instead. A trip to a museum or tourist attraction is usually only a few dollars.

    Experience may vary according to many things, does she like you, do you give her good sex, do you treat her nice, do you dress well, smell good and how well you groom. Do you stay in comfortable places with nice amenities or in a shit hole? When you are out and about and she likes that bathing suit or dress for 30,000 ($10) or 40,000 ($14) and doesn't ask you for it, do you get it for her anyway? (With me, if she asks me to buy it for her, I most likely say no, if she doesn't ask or reaches into her purse to buy it herself, I usually get it for her.) When you go to the market for cigarettes and beer do you bring back 8,000 ($3) worth of flowers?

    All that being said, In centro or at the beach, I never find it hard to find a new girl before late afternoon to spend the night for 150,000 ($54) to 200,000 ($71) a night. If things go well, the price usually drops and the length of stay gets extended. If your reasonably attractive, a gentleman and treat her like a wife and not a paid for piece of ass, the relationship develops and escalates quickly. Everything I said is with the caveat that I almost always steer clear of pro's. I seek semi pro and non pro college girls looking more for fun and good sex than for money and hustling back to the tower to find another victim.

    Once you find one good one, you are set. She will pimp you out to her friends and relatives and keep the good times rolling and the cash in your pocket.

  12. #8617
    Quote Originally Posted by DeepXliv  [View Original Post]
    So just any checking account / debit card that doesn't have international fees is my best option?
    A checking account with no international fees is the best route. Most major USA Banks will charge a 3% international fee for ATM debit card transaction. Many of the machines in Colombia now charge a ATM machine transaction fee that amounts to around $3 - 4 usd. Personally, I use an online bank that doesn't charge a separate fee and reimburses you for the ATM charge of up to $10 per month per card. (I intentionally set-up multiple accounts at that bank, no monthly fees, no minimum balance requirement, etc., each having an ATM card, except 1 account with no ATM card that I use to "park" money that I then sprinkle to the other accounts with a card. Not necessary for the occasional traveler to Colombia. I am a frequent traveler).

    Also, while a particular machine may have a 300 or 600 mil limit per withdrawal, you can make multiple withdrawals from the machine in the same day up to your own bank's maximum. I've read previously here where a guy states that one is limited to say 3 withdrawals. That's incorrect information. I have done as many as 10 consecutive withdrawals using the same card on multiple occasions. Why did I stop at 10? Because I only wanted 3 million pesos while using a 300 mil max machine.

    If you fly into CTG, after you get your baggage and clear the last step of security and end up outside the building, walk toward the departure section of the airport. Go to the far back wall area of the airline check-in section that is nearest the domestic departure area. There will be a back wall of 6 or so ATM machines. While facing those machines, the one to furthermost right is Banco Caja Social. That bank has not started charging ATM fees yet. The max per transaction will be 300 mil, but you can take as many pulls of 300 mil up to your bank's daily max in your home country currency.

    Because I don't like to have to go to the ATM when I'm out and about, I will get as much as I think I will need for the next several days or more. Once I arrive at my apartment rental or hotel, I put all the excess currency, my debit cards, my passport, etc. , in the room safe.

    That's the way I like to do things. Different strokes for different folks.

  13. #8616
    Quote Originally Posted by BKKguru  [View Original Post]
    I agree with your comment. However this is relevant for Cartagena only.
    Hotels in Cartagena are very strict and require the Guest to be "registered". This is not the case in rest of Colombia (excluding the high-end Hotels in Bogota).

    I prefer a Hotel because the Room gets cleaned every day. Also, if you do not like the Room, you may be able to switch to another Room.

    ~BKKguru
    As to the rest of Colombia, our experience has been different, as I have been required to register my guest in hotels in the following cities: Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Covenas, Monteria, Bogota, Medellin, Bucaramanga and half dozen or more smaller towns throughout the country. Maybe one considers the hotels that I've stayed-in "high-end", although I don't, but a couple of them.

    When I stay in an apartment and get it cleaned everyday or every other day, depending on my needs, it costs less than an extra $10 usd per cleaning (wash and dry my clothes as well). I like to have a full fridge, stove, microwave, two bedrooms, two bathrooms, a living room, balcony waterside, etc. , for a cost more times than not less than a small hotel room.

  14. #8615
    Quote Originally Posted by Hilltopper  [View Original Post]
    May I ask why a hotel?
    <snip>

    I have stayed in hotels throughout Colombia, apartments more times than not offer more pros than cons if you are the type who brings back a different girl the same day, the next day, etc.

    Hotels are nice when you are "wifed-up" with one chica whose name you include on the reservation.... .
    I agree with your comment. However this is relevant for Cartagena only.
    Hotels in Cartagena are very strict and require the Guest to be "registered". This is not the case in rest of Colombia (excluding the high-end Hotels in Bogota).

    I prefer a Hotel because the Room gets cleaned every day. Also, if you do not like the Room, you may be able to switch to another Room.

    ~BKKguru

  15. #8614
    Quote Originally Posted by DeepXliv  [View Original Post]
    I'm not looking to use a love motel unless I'm really horny. I'll be bringing the girls back to my place whether it is a hotel or Airbnb. I'm just looking to make sure before hand I won't have any issues bringing the girl to my room. Taking into consideration cost, location, convince and security. I have some time before my trip so I'll keep doing research to figure out what the best option is. I'm not wife up or anything but if it is a hotel or Airbnb I can probably pay via business without having anyone ask questions.
    If were to ask me, I wouldn't stay at a hotel if I was looking to bring back a different chica each day, 2 chicas for a 3 some, etc. If I am going the different chica a day, 3 somes, entertain girls back at my place approach, I'd rent an apartment, and just like Linyjo is doing, I'd rent an apartment from Juan or Mery in Laguito. I don't like problems. I don't like hassles. I don't like to overly complicate things. When renting an apartment in CTG, I like to deal with people who have a long-standing solid reputation with many a guy before me and who have apartments in buildings with porteros who are solid, honest guys in buildings who allow guests without hassle or expectation of a greased handshake.

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