Cartagena Reports

[PerkinWarbeck]

The guys who post in this thread don't live in Cartagena. They don't speak Spanish. They literally don't know better than any of the first timers who pay those rates to the girls.

And I want to apologize to you guys for making this even a topic. Please pay whatever rates you want, but also, please don't pretend like those rates are normal. Those girls work for much less than that consistently.

And to get it back on track: I was downtown last night getting dinner and the police presence has picked back up. Crime outside the tourist zones is still pretty bad, so they peeled off some of the police force to patrol. Semana Santa is just about a month away, and the presence is back. There were more police in the square than tourists when I was walking home last night. A few girls tried to eye me down, but I don't pick up women there. Too many people know me, and word spreads quick. I will get some WhatsApp numbers on Friday.

[Mr Enternational]

And yes there's tons of posts saying how guys ruin it for others.

Yes. Once again ruin it for OTHERS, not for themselves. Nypher and Gabacho know how to navigate. You are not going to ruin it for them. The new guy coming next week, you may ruin it for, but shit he won't know the difference anyway.

I have been saying for damn near 15 years how Sosua has been ruined, but the newer guys said I was hating. Now that it has been made worse by those after them, they want to claim it as ruined. And I am not saying that it is ruined for me because I have been driving around the country for years meeting chicks that are not hookers. The ruined strip in Sosua is not my bread and butter, so my observation about it as being ruined is not saying it affects me.

[Mr Enternational]

If there are places where there are hot and cheap women, and it is easy to get to, you should assume it it not going to last.

True.

The demand for said women is eventually going to push up the price.

False. It has nothing to do with the demand in an economic sense. It has everything to do with horny guys and their money burning a hole in their pocket, then the women thinking well he he gave me this much, so everyone should give me this much. Men have always been their own worst enemy.

Now in my country it is starting to turn out that Americans will end up being their own worst enemy. They are doing it to themselves.

[Mr Enternational]

Yeah, and that story also showed you are a hypocrite. You have preached pussy is pussy and then in that story, you said that the white Chinese looking women in Thailand go for more. By doing so, you admitted that the market price IS set by looks.

I did not say they go for more. I said some guys want to pay them more. And I did not say there was any market price. You pay what you negotiate. They are no different.

I was in the soapy with my buddy last night. The guy handed him the card with prices. The girls wear tags according to her price. There were 5 price tiers. S was the highest at $155. There was only one chick with S and there was nothing special about her. I asked my buddy do you see any reason why this chick should be more than that chick? He said no. I said and different days they switch tags so this chick will be getting paid more and that one less. Also let me add that the chicks gets half of what you pay. So if you pay $50 in there she gets $25 of it. You think she will not take $25 outside? Which is it? Is she worth the $50 that you paid or the $25 that she actually gets paid? Is your supposed market price the $25 she gets paid or the $50 that you paid?

Same here at the Russian clubs. Indian or arab guys will go in there and pay $300 to sit and drink with a Russian chick because where they are from they do not see White chicks and it is their dream to be around them. (Did you see the Indian guys that gang raaped the Brazilian chick the other day and beat up her husband? They never seen a Brazilian chick so to them it was worth it to risk their freedom.) To mfs that are used to this shit then pussy is pussy and they see no reason to sit and drink with a chick for $300 simply because she is White or do the other thing that those guys did. I see no reason to pay 800 K to a chick simply because she had surgery and some other trick bought her a nice phone.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/worl...outputType=amp

[Mr Enternational]

The amount of time chicas I approached got their WhatsApp or Instagram, and through back and forth texting told me 800 K for the night and I told them no and moved on to the next one, only to see them a week or 2 weeks later posting pictures of statuses in Tulum, Cancun, Mexico City, Ecuador, Brazil, Punta Cana, Italy, Morocco, Croatia, Paris, Spain, etc, and the funny thing is right now as I'm typing this, these same exact girls are now in NYC, Chicago, Philly, DC, NJ, Houston, Miami and posting pictures of them being there.

And I have also seen them hoes turn back into pumpkins and be right back in that same one room apartment in the hood.

[Mr Enternational]

But you'll see them with the newest iPhones and clothes and makeup etc.

You're not seeing the point. Sex work in general will always pay more than a regular job and that's just how it's always been.

Or what you think are the newest iPhones. How many rappers and athletes wear fake jewelry and folks are none the wiser? Chicks that I know that have authentic expensive phones have a trick that has bought it for them. How many posts on here you see about guys wanting to bring phones for chicks? Now imagine how many guys that are not on here are doing it.

When you show me that iPhone money in their bank account is when you will have a point. Clothes and makeup are cheap. Assuming someone is really raking it in by looking at what kind of phone they have? Come on man. You are smarter than that. Go to where they are staying then come back and report how they are making 7 million pesos. Reminds me of when Birdman said he didn't have shit, but that did not stop him from making the records saying he had shit. Who knew it was not true? Afterall, they showed a helicopter in the video. It is an illusion.

[Sangnyc21]

I am not a paying member in hooker's trade union. I don't care how much they make or spend, I don't regulate their fares. Yes, I know minimum wage, transportation costs, rental costs etc. I know how much the rates are inside of Cartagena's barrios and all over the country. I even know where to get the best deal for a top hooker and I won't tell anyone. It's my vacation, my money, my time. Moreover I like when folks overpay because it attracts flocks of new birds in the trade, the more guys overpay the more girls are going to show up. So, I am going to make a reasonable offer to a top looker which she may accept, chat with her and make sure I won't be embarrassed later seeing my photo collection. How she is going to perform at least partially depends on how she is paid.

Some guys have to simply stay in their lane.

Some girls are simply not in their price range and those girls won't come down off their price simply because they have options also.

But Mr E will always bring up a one time story that tries to debunk almost anything anyone says.

These girls are in the most exotic locations and most expensive hotels that most on this forum couldn't afford. I think the bitterness is real.

If you have the mentality that pussy is pussy and don't remotely care about the physical appearance of a woman as long as she has a vagina between her legs then you can bargain basement hunt all you want.

[Questner]

Exactly. And the whole notion that guys are going to hold out on paying a woman you are DTF because of the guys on ISG is laughable. If you want to pay Colombian prices, go to places where there are few to no tourists. That is not Cartagena.

I am not a paying member in hooker's trade union. I don't care how much they make or spend, I don't regulate their fares. Yes, I know minimum wage, transportation costs, rental costs etc. I know how much the rates are inside of Cartagena's barrios and all over the country. I even know where to get the best deal for a top hooker and I won't tell anyone. It's my vacation, my money, my time. Moreover I like when folks overpay because it attracts flocks of new birds in the trade, the more guys overpay the more girls are going to show up. So, I am going to make a reasonable offer to a top looker which she may accept, chat with her and make sure I won't be embarrassed later seeing my photo collection. How she is going to perform at least partially depends on how she is paid.

[Sangnyc21]

Can and do are two different things. You would see them living in new condos and driving Mercedes, instead of telling the trick he has to pay her taxi too, if they were making that much money.

But you'll see them with the newest iPhones and clothes and makeup etc.

You're not seeing the point. Sex work in general will always pay more than a regular job and that's just how it's always been.

[Sangnyc21]

Where is the post that guys say this? There is not one. We say you are fucking it up for other guys coming after you, not for ourselves. We already know the deal and how to navigate and are trying to put others on game. You are not fucking it up for us.

I just said the other day how my buddy here in Thailand did not listen and paid the chick $110 because he had to have her. According to you I was hating when I told him that was way too much. She wanted to come back the next day but he wised up and now only wanted to give her half of that but she refused because he had already fucked it up for himself. The day after that she hit him up begging to take the half he was offering. Then he tried to go even lower to what I told him to pay in the first place. I was like man don't play games with the chick. You should have stuck with the price I was telling you from the jump instead of paying 3 times more. But when he first got here he was so excited and horny and that money was burning such a hole in his pocket, that what I said went in one ear and out the other (or maybe he thought I was hating!) Later on, he realized that what I told him was gospel and he did fuck around and overpay when she hit him up begging for the lesser amount.

If I'm going on vacay why would I care about 100 $ on a plane ticket.

My time on when I'm free to to travel and how much time I can spend away is more valuable.

And yes there's tons of posts saying how guys ruin it for others.

Haters are the ones that get upset if someone pays more than they do and have something negative to say about it. The difference between you telling a friend how much to pay is based on your experience.

Also the level of women me and you look at are completely different. I deal a lot more with independents and don't do street girls or casas or clubs.

And congrats on your free chick. Quite an accomplishment.

[Nypher]

So when you see that plane ticket is $800, you are not trying to wait to see if it drops to $700, because your time is more valuable than $100? Or is it just when it comes to pussy that your time is more valuable than $100?

You have me dying right now LOL.

My boy is crying right now cause his return ticket alone is $700 at Blue Basic. When I told him to get it back in January when I did, I got round trip Blue Extra for a little under $500. He wanted to wait for that price drop lmfao.

[Elvis 2008]

I just said the other day how my buddy here in Thailand did not listen and paid the chick $110 because he had to have her. According to you I was hating when I told him that was way too much. She wanted to come back the next day but he wised up and now only wanted to give her half of that but she refused because he had already fucked it up for himself. The day after that she hit him up begging to take the half he was offering. Then he tried to go even lower to what I told him to pay in the first place. I was like man don't play games with the chick. You should have stuck with the price I was telling you from the jump instead of paying 3 times more. But when he first got here he was so excited and horny and that money was burning such a hole in his pocket, that what I said went in one ear and out the other (or maybe he thought I was hating!) Later on, he realized that what I told him was gospel and he did fuck around and overpay when she hit him up begging for the lesser amount.

Yeah, and that story also showed you are a hypocrite. You have preached pussy is pussy and then in that story, you said that the white Chinese looking women in Thailand go for more. By doing so, you admitted that the market price IS set by looks. So when you guys go off on guys "overpaying", you have no clue as to whether they are or are if you have no clue what they look like.

And you have no idea what the pussy is even like based on a photo. Is it smelly and loose or tight and smells and tastes great? You do not know. And then there is the rest of the woman. Is she good at IOP? Does she hang out with you when you are done? Does she show kindness when you are with her? Is she appreciative of what you give her or is she angling to get more and more? Does she make you feel special?

Believe it or not, I am not totally dissing you Mr. E. I know you could give a course on getting guys to pay less, but you are fooling yourself into thinking you always know if someone is overpaying. If there are places where there are hot and cheap women, and it is easy to get to, you should assume it it not going to last. The demand for said women is eventually going to push up the price.

You know that if you want Colombian rates, you go to places where there are mostly Colombians, and that is not Cartagena or Medellin.

[Nypher]

One of the other things these guys do not get is the really hot women have options. I had a breakup with an ex-fiance who had one of the nicest bodies you will ever see. Six pack abs. Crazy strong thighs and worked out like a fiend. After we broke up, she made damned sure she showed me all the American guys pursuing her. Marrying one of them would have not been a problem for her.

The top guys want filet mignon and the guys eating hamburger here, and it is obvious who they are, gripe nonstop about the price of hamburger going up. They claim pussy is pussy and therefore beef is beef. As I have asked so many times, why don't they object to the prices on anything else? Why aren't you making fun of the guys eating filet mignon or staying in the expensive hotels?

You're observing what I'm observing, and it's going to be funny when people go against what you say only then later to repeat what was said and act like it's new information similar to the ones who were defending Sousa 2 years ago are now making videos of how bad it is because all the girls are overweight walking around with yoga pants and bonnets on their heads LOL.

The more people talk the more they tell on themselves and expose the exact type of chicas they are going for and they believe the good looking chicas with options are the same price as the ones down on their luck and desperate.

I've reported about similar previously on this forum and was called a liar or a conspiracy theorist only to then months or a year later others speak up about seeing exactly what I reported or they were doing what I reported.

The amount of time chicas I approached got their WhatsApp or Instagram, and through back and forth texting told me 800 K for the night and I told them no and moved on to the next one, only to see them a week or 2 weeks later posting pictures of statuses in Tulum, Cancun, Mexico City, Ecuador, Brazil, Punta Cana, Italy, Morocco, Croatia, Paris, Spain, etc, and the funny thing is right now as I'm typing this, these same exact girls are now in NYC, Chicago, Philly, DC, NJ, Houston, Miami and posting pictures of them being there.

People really think the chicas with the passports and no obligations such as salary job, kids, or school will willingly market themselves to locals and accept bare minimum when they can go to Centro and get 1 or 2 guys and walk home with a whole months salary in 1 night or 1 day or if they hit it good they get flown out of Colombia for a whole week and best believe they are getting paid very well for that week. I'm not even going to touch on the ones who have sugar daddies giving them allowances or having them stay in apartments in Bocagrande. I tell people that if they see a chica with a Pro MAX iPhone, then high probability she's going to be expensive but they ignore what I say and go for the possibility of her being cheap.

Everyone just need to work within their budget and enjoy their time. If the expensive chica is too much then walk away until she desperate but by then how much time was wasted waiting for that chica to become desperate LOL.

[Elvis 2008]

All those musings about prices although sensible don't pass a bar in real life. What do you say to all few Colombians who pay millions to girls over the weekend? Take a closer look in the mirror and ask 'How much would I charge to fuck him?' The same applies to all subpar girls that show up for sex work. And then a rare dolled up beauty at the right hour with all her overhead demands a higher rate and exploits competition. Now it takes me just seconds to approach her and make a reasonable offer. I have never regretted paying a premium. I have regretted not paying it and missing a chance.

Exactly. And the whole notion that guys are going to hold out on paying a woman you are DTF because of the guys on ISG is laughable. If you want to pay Colombian prices, go to places where there are few to no tourists. That is not Cartagena.

[Mr Enternational]

Sex workers will make a lot more than an average working salary. That's how it's always been. Even at third world rates they can make 2-300 k a night dancing at a strip club that comes to 7-8 million a month.

Can and do are two different things. You would see them living in new condos and driving Mercedes, instead of telling the trick he has to pay her taxi too, if they were making that much money.