Cartagena Reports

[MiamiHeatLuver]

HeatLuver. I would ask the same questions if I were you.

Of course I ask myself the same questions. I wrote the book on devilish vieja behavior. Never want to be labeled as the Wester Union Novio or the Gringo Pato. Je je LOL Good luck keep doing your thing and see what happens.

[LuckyEddie]

Now do I still get that craving for variety and the chase? Of course.

For me that's where the PFP comes in to play, and I dabble in that for some fun and I have to accept that's who I am, but I do enjoy eventually coming back to the girl who digs me.

And there you have it. I'm in the same boat. Ricker as you probably know what you have in your neck of Brazil was available here 6, 8.10 years ago. Nowadays the girls here are so inundated with gringos that finding what you have is actually too much work and at times nearly impossible. A lot more accessable in brazil.

Another motivation I have is I HATE wearing rubbers and / or shooting my load in mid air. Also having more options than BBBJCIM is nice. BBBJ is all good but I like blasting my load deep in raw pussy and then spending the night in bed, waking up the next morning and doing that all over again. I am old enough to never allow myself to be in the position where I can't wait until she leaves.

OK, nuff said. Bottom line the girlfrind thing, here in a 3rd world country with non desperate girls, is cheaper than working girls here AND definately cheaper than US girlfriends.

[LuckyEddie]

Do you live in Medellin full time? Or just visit frequently and / or for long periods of time? Does she have Facebook? Take a look at what and which guys post on her wall or who's wall she posts on. Chances are that's who's she's banging when you leave town. Or if not thats her "dick in a glass case" "break in case of emergency" novio when she feels like it or if you fuck up. If she tells you that she doesn't have Facebook it's a lie beacause every single Colombiana i know under 30 has one. They will create 2 or more profiles. 1 sanitized that she will share with you and one for her friends using pseudo names like (Princessa 89) and things like this. I figured its best to not be "friends" with girls I become serious with because it just adds to much pressure and stress to a relationship. Just enjoy the time when we are together and thatssss it!

HeatLuver. I would ask the same questions if I were you. No harm no foul. I appreciate the help.

I am here full time since 2003, speak fluent spanish although with an accent. I've been in the game and know all the tricks in the book. I honestly feel I can spot the liar. Matter of fact it is practically all of them!

I never leave town. Yes, she has Facebook, like 60 friends, no gringos and just moved to Medellin 9 months ago and we hooked up on her 2nd month here. Beforehand she worked for the mayor's office in her pueblo and had a steady boyfriend there since highschool. They broke up about 6 months before she moved here. I have access to her computer and such and don't need to spy. But I could if I wanted to.

She has one cell phone, no primos hanging around, no gaps on her resume and again, has only been in Medellin for 9 months. She doesn't NEED me and doesn't admit to hating Colombian men (that is the lie to watch for). She doesn't see my facebook and I don't see hers. It's really not necessary. If she is banging anyone it would have to be somoene in her office. They would have to be going at it in the closet and every one would know as her office is run by women.

Honestly? I don't really care.

The trick is living here and being able to get girls with options (ie: pretty young girls with a lot going for them). You need to stick it out with them for a while. These girls are financially secure with their shit half together, generally get good Colombian guys. Those guys do exist.

These girls are not really looking to leave the country permanently but are open and really would just love to travel. But they want to be here with their family and friends and have no problem saying so. These girls hooking up with a foreigner who happens to be here on a one week vacation, or with some foreigner who lives here but doesn't speak the language, or with any guy, foreigner or Colombian, who is way out of her league, well, does not have a shot with her. For her this is just not an option.

Just imagine yourself here and having to compromise with having to be with Rosie O' Donnell or some other fat 40 something year old. Why don't you do that old lady when you are here? Because like the really great girls you too also have choices.

These girls, like every girl on the planet, want to converse with their boyfriends,"how was your day?" and don't want to be embarrased walking down the street with someone totally not in their league. Image is very important here.

So why am I rambling on about this? Not just because the guy I quoted in my original post, who said non pros cost more than pros, struck a chord. But all the rest of you: Practically every guy on here is looking for girlfriend experience. GFE is mentioned in every post about hookers.

It is great having a steady slampiece and being able to fool around on the side in the PFP arena, but seriously? When you got a hottie with no restrictions and no condoms it's tough in bed wearing a rubber with a skank who's fucking half the town for 35K a pop.

For the record I do hit the casas and putas now and then but don't consider that a big no no. Although this girl is in my league, she is under 30 and if things don't work out noone really got screwed. Yeah there will be tears when the breakup happens but know what? There's tears when the break happens in any country. So what? My intentions are good.

[Ricker]

. I'm traveling with 8 other Italian-Americans for a bachelor party. All of us in our 30's good looking and in great shape. Fun to party with and not shy on spending $.

We just secured a hellacious pad and ready to take Cartagena.

Good one Ricker, Costagena!

I propose: Goombagena, or Guidogena

Oh brother, feels like I blinked and everything changed.

That's cool though, just hangin' in new places.

[Ricker]

... But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit.

Sounds very nice. But does or will this girl have a desire to "advance" the relationship sooner or later? And when you get bored or it ends, will it end with drama or tears?

I'm not you but if I was living and dating locally in Medellin or Lima Peru which is my other frequent destination and possibly a permanent one soon, I'd actually feel better if part of any relationship with a non-pro was based on some kind of financial support to supplement her meager income. Because I always crave variety and hate being tied down I would also make clear the relationship be explicitly NSA. If I'm supposed to be sincere and faithful I would suffer from one of two negative feelings, either guilt when I just have to tap some new strange and lie to my girl about that or worse, risk being found out, or "caged-in" if I force myself to be unnaturally monogamous living in a place of pussy abundance.

I have to agree with the LuckyEddie on this.

It sure is nice to hang with a girl who makes her own money, won't accept financial support and would actually be offended if you tried, and is with you because she really does like you.

I still haven't found that type relationship in Colombia, never have, but I have it now in Brazil.

It's nice.

Now do I still get that craving for variety and the chase? Of course.

For me that's where the PFP comes in to play, and I dabble in that for some fun and I have to accept that's who I am, but I do enjoy eventually coming back to the girl who digs me.

Do you live in Medellin full time? Or just visit frequently and / or for long periods of time? Does she have Facebook? Take a look at what and which guys post on her wall or who's wall she posts on. Chances are that's who's she's banging when you leave town. Or if not thats her "dick in a glass case" "break in case of emergency" novio when she feels like it or if you fuck up. If she tells you that she doesn't have Facebook it's a lie beacause every single Colombiana i know under 30 has one. They will create 2 or more profiles. 1 sanitized that she will share with you and one for her friends using pseudo names like (Princessa 89) and things like this. I figured its best to not be "friends" with girls I become serious with because it just adds to much pressure and stress to a relationship. Just enjoy the time when we are together and thatssss it!

Hahaha. I'm with ya Heat, lots of these chicas are 'playas', but surely not all of them.

Believe it or not, there are some keepers out there.

Hasta pronto.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

This is so true in the US.

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job it is exactly the opposite.

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took me out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took me out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit.

Do you live in Medellin full time? Or just visit frequently and / or for long periods of time? Does she have Facebook? Take a look at what and which guys post on her wall or who's wall she posts on. Chances are that's who's she's banging when you leave town. Or if not thats her "dick in a glass case" "break in case of emergency" novio when she feels like it or if you fuck up. If she tells you that she doesn't have Facebook it's a lie beacause every single Colombiana i know under 30 has one. They will create 2 or more profiles. 1 sanitized that she will share with you and one for her friends using pseudo names like (Princessa 89) and things like this. I figured its best to not be "friends" with girls I become serious with because it just adds to much pressure and stress to a relationship. Just enjoy the time when we are together and thatssss it!

[John Gault]

This is so true in the US.

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job it is exactly the opposite.

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took me out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took me out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit.

Eddie, you are my hero. Really

[Golfinho]

sounds very nice. but does or will this girl have a desire to "advance" the relationship sooner or later? and when you get bored or it ends, will it end with drama or tears?

if i'm supposed to be sincere and faithful i would suffer from one of two negative feelings, either guilt when i just have to tap some new strange and lie to my girl about that or worse, risk being found out, or "caged-in" if i force myself to be unnaturally monogamous living in a place of pussy abundance.

+1.

even if 'bandit' was used as a figure of speech, the term still speaks for something that didn't sound good.

[Speculator]

This is so true in the US.

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job it is exactly the opposite.

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took me out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took me out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit.

Yes, but you are LuckyEddie

[Cuero99]

This is so true in the US.

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job it is exactly the opposite.

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took me out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took me out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit.

Sounds very nice. But does or will this girl have a desire to "advance" the relationship sooner or later? And when you get bored or it ends, will it end with drama or tears?

I'm not you but if I was living and dating locally in Medellin or Lima Peru which is my other frequent destination and possibly a permanent one soon, I'd actually feel better if part of any relationship with a non-pro was based on some kind of financial support to supplement her meager income. Because I always crave variety and hate being tied down I would also make clear the relationship be explicitly NSA. If I'm supposed to be sincere and faithful I would suffer from one of two negative feelings, either guilt when I just have to tap some new strange and lie to my girl about that or worse, risk being found out, or "caged-in" if I force myself to be unnaturally monogamous living in a place of pussy abundance.

[LuckyEddie]

At some point in your life you will acknowledge the fact that. :

"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less."

This is so true in the US.

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job it is exactly the opposite.

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took me out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took me out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit.

[LuckyEddie]

Good one Ricker, Costagena!

I propose: Goombagena, or Guidogena

[John Gault]

I have been reading this talking about young verse old and Paying pro's verse non pro's and getting free action from pro's.

I guess it is time for my opinion. As most likely one of the older guys on this forum who can hang with anyone young or old, I must say I think the main point is being missed here. First off when you pay it is the most honest transaction you can get. After you are finished you don't have to lie or play games with the girl. You just move on to the next one. Also the thought is always there, does she really like me or is she looking for that coveted ticket to the USA?

I think 99% of us have all had non Pro's at one time or another so what is the big deal about it? Forget all this bragging and get to the real issue, that is am I getting a awesome experence?

For me I hunt all the time (I travel almost every month for long amounts of time) and keep trying out new girls. The result is I have a solid Pro or two in every country I have been to. This enables me to have a total GFE whenever I choose.

To sum up. Leave your egos and the door (myself included as I have bragged a little here) and look for great experences not numbers and false hopes.

[DR1470]

Hey BlackHawk,

Like to see you in action.

Just wondering if you possess all these God Gifted skills then why do you have to travel to 3rd world countries to troll for women?

If you even have a fraction of the attributes you claim you wouldn't have to leave your backyard to find beautiful women. Just ask Heff or any Hollywood badboy.

Either you're not what you claim or your skills have seriously eroded to the point where you're trying to recapture your youth. Hence the fact that you've turned to prostitutes to feed your starving ego. ROTFLMAO.

Of course you can prove us wrong!

I'll be there with 8 other buddies on March 22. If you think you can hang and keep up with us? Look me up!

At some point in your life you will acknowledge the fact that. :

"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less."

[Gonzo]

Damn right Jersey Shore it would be legendary to be there at the same time as your crowd as it sounds just like my boys just different coasts. I will take all the advise I can piece together as to definitely go to LDV and Cafe Del Mar etc. N definitely stay away from a Tony at Playa Hollywood. Thanks for everything guys.

Oh no. 8 goombahs in CTG! (I'm a goombah too). Blackhawk69 will help you out for sure! Also, you don't necessarily have to avoid Tony, simply show up around 4:30 or 5:00 when all the hooking up finishes up and Tony doesn't have enuf time to rip you off. Just keep Playa Hollywood as a contingency plan if you want sumpin-sumpin in the late afternoon, and you don't have any yet.

Good one Ricker, Costagena! It's mostly true, prices do vary, had 2 below market, but they are rising in general. It's annoying. And the 3-ways are very costly!

Blackhawk69, thanks for the compliment, I can keep up with the young chicas for a while, but eventually they wear me down. Most of the time here I'm feeling very satisfied, sometimes tired, sometimes I wish I had 3 johnsons.