Cartagena Reports

[Eszpresszo]

I do not understand this question. Are you serious? Do you think I keep the daily record of girls on an Excel file?

To me, the clubs are not an issue. Clubs are not casas where girls stay resident. The same girls, who I was used to see at Reloj around 23, later were trying their luck in Space or Imperium or etc. , then going in and out until time to call the night. I assume now it is better, because girls now have no place to "hide" and are all out on display. Yesterday I have seen a small group flirting with random guys at Eivissa. If a girl has the money to pay drinks, then the clubs are many and all full of people.

Mr. Black Page,

I see you are as snarky as ever. But, I thought you lived in "Europe", so you could drink wine? Did you up and decide to move to Colombia?

[Black Page]

Photos were taken between 10:30 PM and 11 PM on a Sunday night and Wednesday night.

It's amazing then. Maybe Sunday is empty, but on Wednesday 31 January streets were full of night tourists (those who go out for clubbing) and lots of working girls.

However, a point to make clear is that last November I have never been a patron of Dolce Vita, I went to Space only at 1 am or 2 am if streets were lonely, and I entered Delirium only once, to run away after 30 seconds after having looked around, as soon as I felt more in a bar of New Orleans patronized by the local hip-hop black community rather than in Cartagena. My scene is outdoor. I like to see girls and approach only very few of them, if something calls my attention.
(It was different many years ago, when my favourite hunting place was Elektra. Oh! I miss Elektra!! To me, the best place in Cartagena.)

In a nutshell, I would say that Mr. Alcalde made me a favour by pushing all girls out of the clubs converting them in street walkers, as I can see what is available by roaming around instead of entering 4 clubs one after the other, if it wasn't that I REALLY HATE the barricades and the police sirens, designed to the sole purpose of pushing PEOPLE (not just the girls) away from the square. A square is meant to be lived by people. Benches are meant to have people sitting and relaxing.

Still, the square was not empty. There is almost the usual number of people, and many girls. The difference is that nobody loiters in a place, but everyone keeps on walking around. LOL. Mr. Alcalde wants girls keep their legs fit. I do admire the ambulant folks with their poor instruments playing music trying to get tips from tourists in the square, while the police siren keeps on splitting the ears of everyone. Still, they stand and play music, overwhelmed but not entirely covered by the siren.

[Nypher]

Nypher, I always read with interest your notes.

I have been there Tuesday through Friday (4 nights). I think this matter is highly subjective, so let me add my impressions..

Photos were taken between 10:30 PM and 11 PM on a Sunday night and Wednesday night.

I added the disclaimer for context because there be some people weighing in on the conversation and once others start questioning their "experience" we come to find out their information is way outdated because they have not not been to the place in months or years, they are going to the places at the wrong times or days such as people back in their hotel rooms at 8 PM or out there on a Monday night giving reports making people think its Friday night at 11 PM. Hell, even in the WhatsApp groups we got people weighing in on conversations and after a few questions come to find out their passport been expired for years or they don't even have a passport. Lmfao.

I had more photos to show how empty the streets were but the powers that be won't let them post. Numerous times I've posted pictures and some how they all don't get posted For example one of the photos where I showed 2 guitars talking to 2 working girls by the barricades didn't get posted, it was showing the back of the guys heads but the girls faces.

Same thing when I tried to post the pictures the chicas sent me from Princesita (glass table smash chica) point of view she had sent to other girls in a group.

Now I just mostly link to YouTube videos or news articles since the information is already public.

I'll be back there in a few months.

[Black Page]

Disclaimer I was only in Centro for 2 nights. A Wednesday night and a Sunday Night so take this small report with a grain of salt.
For Cartagena. Its nothing anyone hasn't already known but the blockades are up totally blocking off the clock tower and strategically placed blocking off certain streets..

Nypher, I always read with interest your notes.

I have been there Tuesday through Friday (4 nights). I think this matter is highly subjective, so let me add my impressions.

We were not allowed to enter the clocktower area from the LH Hotel side and they made us walk around. Once we did we were only allowed to enter the clock tower area from the right side by the Control Point tent. They set up a whole outdoor movie show there and cleared out all the girls. Pickings were slim, this was like getting the leftover after all the good ones are gone. Girls were standing by the LH Hotel but 1 by 1 no groups.

Confirmed, but the point is that, if the goal was to clear out all girls, what they try to do is to clear out all people from the whole square after 10-11 pm or so (after they finish the pathetic family show, for which they have built a stage with theatre-style chairs in front).

They do not stop any girl or people to enter, but the entrances are narrow and limited to 2-3 points. No girl is stopped at the gates, but ALL PEOPLE is discouraged to enter (2 narrow gates) and to stay. The small police electric car was playing the ear-splitting siren continuously after midnight (is there no regulation against making noise at night?) without any other purpose if not annoying people and impeding them to relax. I am saying MINUTES without interruption, then again. This makes ears to pain and makes difficult to stay, simply stated. Now and then police comes and requests people sitting on benches to move. You know the "no loitering" warning in the USA?

Those poor ambulant guys were still trying to play music, but their sound was overwhelmed by the siren. Still, they obstinately continued to play, trying to be stronger than odds.

Now, if I can understand the logic of "push prostitutes away", I miss the logic of making the central area deserted after 11 am by "push ALL PEOPLE away", which is what they try to do. With no success, however, because the square is still with many people and many girls, but nobody stops in group. Everyone keeps on walking around (do you know damned souls in Dante's Inferno?). I did speak with many girls in the square. The problem is that they never stop walking, ahah.

However, after 1 am police leaves and the square becomes a relaxed place again, although the barricades allow only those few entry points.

The street where Delirium is located was blocked, the street where Dolce and Space is was also blocked, only foot traffic and horse carriages were allowed. No cars hardly any people. (...) They also told me Alchemico was closed, which was surprising as that's not one of the obviously known working girls club.
(...)Streets were very empty with only a hand full of girls.
See attached pictures below from my perspective if the power that be allow them all to post.

Fortunately for Cartagena, my impression here is totally different. The streets around are not empty, actually packed of tourists (and girls are there). I do not know when you took those photos.

Alquimico (not Alchemico) is so packed that people queues out and fills up the street. The Street of Imperio, Dolce, Space is full, and it probably where the density of girls is highest. They keep on walking around the area, circling back and forth. Well, maybe we visited at different times. I was used to roam from 11 pm to 2 am (before, I wish to enjoy a good dinner).

Girls cannot solicit in the Square, then they roam around in groups in a radius of 3-4 blocks. I did not see less girls than last November, my first visit after COVID. I saw a lot of girls, of all shapes and looks, but not all together. They are spread all around.

Good job for Mr. Alcalde. As I wrote before, he acted as the one who sees dust on the floor and thinks to clean by spreading it all around the house. In addition, he ruined the experience to all those tourists who just wish to enjoy the place after 10 pm (oh yes, good kids go to bed at 9 pm).

Overall, I am happy of my visit to Cartagena, in spite of these efforts to kill nightlife. I had a different girl every night, with experiences ranging from "OK, but I will not repeat" to "Why did I not repeat?? Damn me!". Paid from 350 to 400, including tips over what agreed initially, for girls in range 19 to 25. I strictly avoid silicon and "wannabe-model" types, so I always spend hours in making the selection, and I prefer "unprofessional service".

The negative point is that almosts all girls above some threshold of beauty and hotness now seem adamantine in offering service "todo con condom" period, including oral, which to me is a stopper. Almost all those girls speak professionally as in an industry, too professionally to my eyes. Standard fee by those girls is 350 for 1 hour, or 250 but with interesting options with adicional. Only some of them allowed natural oral, and they were the only ones I did consider. Years ago, it was easier for me to find GFE with girls around the streets of CTG.

Around Bocagrande and Laguito there are a few interesting girls, but less than in Centro, and however mostly from late afteroon until not very late in the night.
I would be happy if I could be back soon.

[Nypher]

This is just a quick update.

Disclaimer I was only in Centro for 2 nights. A Wednesday night and a Sunday Night so take this small report with a grain of salt.

Finishing off my 3 week stay, I must say Santa Martha is just so much peaceful if you're walking. If you're driving, the random stray dogs laying in the middle of the street and random people riding pedal bicycles in the middle of the main roads is frustrating.

For Cartagena. Its nothing anyone hasn't already known but the blockades are up totally blocking off the clock tower and strategically placed blocking off certain streets. The street where Delirium is located was blocked, the street where Dolce and Space is was also blocked, only foot traffic and horse carriages were allowed. No cars hardly any people.

On Wednesday my girl and I were walking to the usual Townhouse when she spotted an Arcade machine in the lobby and she wanted to play. If you're into MAME Emulation it has over 20 games stored, from what I recall Mortal Kombat 1, 2, Bloody Roar, Tekken 1, 2, Street Fighter 1, 2, ETC. She kicked my ass in Bloody Roar and MK2, those joysticks suck, the UP direction hardly registers can't even do a hadokun cause down to forward does not register correctly.

We were not allowed to enter the clocktower area from the LH Hotel side and they made us walk around. Once we did we were only allowed to enter the clock tower area from the right side by the Control Point tent. They set up a whole outdoor movie show there and cleared out all the girls. Pickings were slim, this was like getting the leftover after all the good ones are gone. Girls were standing by the LH Hotel but 1 by 1 no groups.

Left to go to another area for a week and returned to Centro on Sunday.

Back to Centro. We grabbed some frozen Hand Grenades from Fubar, them shits is strong, and walked around a bit. Streets were very empty with only a hand full of girls. All 3 main clubs still closed. I did run into a few girls I knew who were walking around looking for customers and they told me most girls are now at Pico Rojo or BocaGrande, or at the rooftop bar above Clock Town Pub, for now not much is happening inside the walls. They also told me Alchemico was closed, which was surprising as that's not one of the obviously known working girls club.

I stayed in Marbella, Quiet area as I remember, when we arrived my girl didn't want to stay in the Airbnb I booked because that's the corner where the guy was killed who didn't want to give up the chain a few months ago so I ended up booking across the street at Marina Club which made no difference to me but she sees one brother got popped she thinks I'm going to get popped too SMH. Where they have 24 armed security, they got some shinny ass chrome shotguns so she felt safe. Also looks like there is allot of high rise construction happening in the Torices barrio across the bridge.

I'm leaving out allot such as what I saw at the airport, went to pick up my boy and when that LATAM flight landed behind his understood where the loudmouth sistas came from on my last trip because they were doing the same. Screaming all in the guys face who handled the bags. This is just sad now.

See attached pictures below from my perspective if the power that be allow them all to post.

[Elvis 2008]

All the area around Clock Tower is closed by police barricades, and not only the square inside, but also the whole area outside the wall in front, until almost the road. There are only 2 or 3 passages, where staff monitors people passing by. This makes very unconvenient to all tourists to walk around and enjoy the place, which is one of main tourist spots. There is a police van in the middle, with blue lights, and another small car, which sometimes begins to play police siren, just to make noise and annoy people.

What is the result of all this? That the number of girls is the same as before, but instead of being gathered in the square they flood all the streets around. In other words, if before puritan people was bothered by seeing 50 sexy girls standing in the square, now people see the same girls but walking all around, in a radius of say 3-4 blocks. Basically, the Alcalde acted as the one who sees dust on the floor and thinks to clean by spreading it all around the house. In addition, he ruined the experience to all those tourists who like to roam the city just to enjoy the place. I also noticed less Venezolanas, which is a pity.

I was out at night but not that late and saw the barricades of which you spoke. I only saw one woman who gave off the hooker vibe. We were walking around the city and went to a restaurant called Marea's that was fantastic. They had a chocolate soufflé / volcano desert to die for.

But before we got to the restaurant, we passed the area where the new Four Seasons is being built. Here is what I read on line:

On completion, the hotel will showcase interiors designed by Francois Catroux and Wimberly Interiors, and comprise 131 guest rooms including a 4,200 sq ft Royal Suite and 3,500 sq ft Presidential Suite. The hotel's architectural design was led by WATG.

Facilities here will include six AvroKO-designed indoor and outdoor drinking and dining concepts, plus an atrium lounge at the heart of Club Cartagena. Moreover, a rooftop pool will provide views of the ancient walled city and Cartagena Bay, and guests will be able to make use of a pool bar and grill, cabanas and daybeds. A signature Four Seasons spa and fitness centre will cater for all of guests' wellbeing needs.

These hotel amenities will be complemented by 16,000 sq ft of event space and 16 private residences, which come with personalised Four Seasons service.

End of link. I am not sure you can see the ground level area of the clock tower from the Four Seasons site, but you can easily see the clock tower itself. Point is this hotel is going to be huge for the city of Cartagena and the mayor as far as capturing fees and property taxes, and I do not see Marriott, which runs the Four Seasons, putting up with hookers in view from their hotel.

My guess is the hookers will have to keep moving or maybe even go under ground.

[Gabacho]

I am in city right in these days. All clubs known for girls are closed, but regular nightlife is the same as before.

All the area around Clock Tower is closed by police barricades, and not only the square inside, but also the whole area outside the wall in front, until almost the road. There are only 2 or 3 passages, where staff monitors people passing by. This makes very unconvenient to all tourists to walk around and enjoy the place, which is one of main tourist spots. There is a police van in the middle, with blue lights, and another small car, which sometimes begins to play police siren, just to make noise and annoy people.

What is the result of all this? That the number of girls is the same as before, but instead of being gathered in the square they flood all the streets around. In other words, if before puritan people was bothered by seeing 50 sexy girls standing in the square, now people see the same girls but walking all around, in a radius of say 3-4 blocks. Basically, the Alcalde acted as the one who sees dust on the floor and thinks to clean by spreading it all around the house. In addition, he ruined the experience to all those tourists who like to roam the city just to enjoy the place. I also noticed less Venezolanas, which is a pity.

Personally, I like it more than before (except the barricades, which are a true nonsense, and having less girls from Venezuela). I never liked to see all that puteria in front of reloy. Now I can observe the same girls by walking around and approach them if I wish, but not all together. More relaxed. I do not have to speak with one while all others look at me.

One last word: after midnight or 1 am, nobody bothers anymore, and the passages are left open, so girls enter the square and walk or stand, mixed with regular tourists.

That's what you guys get for electing a left-wing Petro Liberal as the alcalde. In Medellin we elected a conservative and the first thing he did was remove all the barricades that were put in place by his liberal predecessor Quintero. Things are back to normal in Medellin once again but with a slightly heavier police presence but open without barricades.

Also I've started to notice more vennies from Cartagena are now in Medellin working plaza botero, I fucked one last week a 21 year old vennie who told me she usually works in Cartagena.

[Black Page]

When you say the number of girls is the same, does that number include the girls that would normally be inside the clubs?

I do not understand this question. Are you serious? Do you think I keep the daily record of girls on an Excel file?

To me, the clubs are not an issue. Clubs are not casas where girls stay resident. The same girls, who I was used to see at Reloj around 23, later were trying their luck in Space or Imperium or etc. , then going in and out until time to call the night. I assume now it is better, because girls now have no place to "hide" and are all out on display. Yesterday I have seen a small group flirting with random guys at Eivissa. If a girl has the money to pay drinks, then the clubs are many and all full of people.

[HumpyDumpty11]

That the number of girls is the same as before, but instead of being gathered in the square they flood all the streets around. In other words, if before puritan people was bothered by seeing 50 sexy girls standing in the square, now people see the same girls but walking all around, in a radius of say 3-4 blocks.

When you say the number of girls is the same, does that number include the girls that would normally be inside the clubs?

[Black Page]

I am in city right in these days. All clubs known for girls are closed, but regular nightlife is the same as before.

All the area around Clock Tower is closed by police barricades, and not only the square inside, but also the whole area outside the wall in front, until almost the road. There are only 2 or 3 passages, where staff monitors people passing by. This makes very unconvenient to all tourists to walk around and enjoy the place, which is one of main tourist spots. There is a police van in the middle, with blue lights, and another small car, which sometimes begins to play police siren, just to make noise and annoy people.

What is the result of all this? That the number of girls is the same as before, but instead of being gathered in the square they flood all the streets around. In other words, if before puritan people was bothered by seeing 50 sexy girls standing in the square, now people see the same girls but walking all around, in a radius of say 3-4 blocks. Basically, the Alcalde acted as the one who sees dust on the floor and thinks to clean by spreading it all around the house. In addition, he ruined the experience to all those tourists who like to roam the city just to enjoy the place. I also noticed less Venezolanas, which is a pity.

Personally, I like it more than before (except the barricades, which are a true nonsense, and having less girls from Venezuela). I never liked to see all that puteria in front of reloy. Now I can observe the same girls by walking around and approach them if I wish, but not all together. More relaxed. I do not have to speak with one while all others look at me.

One last word: after midnight or 1 am, nobody bothers anymore, and the passages are left open, so girls enter the square and walk or stand, mixed with regular tourists.

[DJHeywood]

So I'm hearing that the clubs downtown are not the same as they use to be. I hear there is a club outside the center called Androgeno Latin Club that has picked up the Delirium mantel. They have the hip-hop crowd now. But that club is not in a good neighborhood, so I expect to hear that gringos will be getting robbed or stuck up from there. I heard if you want to go there, make sure you have a guide. The rules for the girls are that only girls that have worked at Delirium are allowed to enter. I'm not sure how much taxis are charging yet but I imagine they can charge anything now cause you will want to leave that neighborhood as fast as you can.

I heard that the Space crowd may be going to a club called Terazza 47. That is also outside the walled city, closer to Caribe Plaza mall, from what I'm hearing. It's only one floor and might be smaller than Space. Not sure of the clientale but I would imagine its locals since this is in their neighborhood.

Good heads up. Still need a direct replacement of Dolce Vitas quality, volume, and transparency.

[Phuket90]

So I'm hearing that the clubs downtown are not the same as they use to be. I hear there is a club outside the center called Androgeno Latin Club that has picked up the Delirium mantel. They have the hip-hop crowd now. But that club is not in a good neighborhood, so I expect to hear that gringos will be getting robbed or stuck up from there. I heard if you want to go there, make sure you have a guide. The rules for the girls are that only girls that have worked at Delirium are allowed to enter. I'm not sure how much taxis are charging yet but I imagine they can charge anything now cause you will want to leave that neighborhood as fast as you can.

I heard that the Space crowd may be going to a club called Terazza 47. That is also outside the walled city, closer to Caribe Plaza mall, from what I'm hearing. It's only one floor and might be smaller than Space. Not sure of the clientale but I would imagine its locals since this is in their neighborhood.

Heard the same and saw some WA and Insta stories. Been there last time 2021. People should be much more careful there as in centro. Is Paraiso del Marino still open?

So the scene is just going back to the rougher places. I will check that out in 3 Weeks.

[HumpyDumpty11]

So I'm hearing that the clubs downtown are not the same as they use to be. I hear there is a club outside the center called Androgeno Latin Club that has picked up the Delirium mantel. They have the hip-hop crowd now. But that club is not in a good neighborhood, so I expect to hear that gringos will be getting robbed or stuck up from there. I heard if you want to go there, make sure you have a guide. The rules for the girls are that only girls that have worked at Delirium are allowed to enter. I'm not sure how much taxis are charging yet but I imagine they can charge anything now cause you will want to leave that neighborhood as fast as you can.

I heard that the Space crowd may be going to a club called Terazza 47. That is also outside the walled city, closer to Caribe Plaza mall, from what I'm hearing. It's only one floor and might be smaller than Space. Not sure of the clientale but I would imagine its locals since this is in their neighborhood.

[PerkinWarbeck]

Was in Centro last night. Plenty of folks partying, but the working girls are no longer concentrated in one spot. Usually just in groups of 3 - 4 in a certain spot. Making Centro less amenable to sex work is going to have knock on effects for how mongers enjoy the city now.

The AirBnBs within the walls aren't worth it anymore.

The best way to enjoy the city is to have a girl already with you from Medellin, Cali, or Barranquilla. Or test enough girls in short time hotels until you find a good one in Cartagena.

My advice would be to stay in the nice hotels in Bocagrande. Leave your valuables in your room and don't invite a girl there. If you find a girl, either in person or online, invite her to a short time hotel. The only one I know in Bocagrande is Hotel Mar why Sol. I've rented a room there for 30 k an hour, though I'm unsure what the prices are now. Take only the money you need to pay her and for the room. You meet the girl at the hotel, enjoy her, and leave. This eliminates you being robbed for anything.

Once you find a girl you click with, take her to Baru or Islas Del Rosario for a night or two. Get a real girlfriend experience (tongue kissing, hand holding, and bareback sex) at a nice private hotel there. A great time for both of you.

[DJHeywood]

I don't like to promote youtubers but this Colombian guy is bringing the information straight to us, just about everyday about what is happening in cartagena. His latest post is about the dislike for the youtubers filming the girls in el centro. This goes hand in hand with my friend being told not to film in el centro the other day.

https://www.youtube.com/@thecolombianguide5832/videos

I'd rather support a local guy giving actual info. Not the 4 K walkthrus which I appreciated before but now they repost old vids and purposely keeping answers vague to drum up more clicks. I won't be going to Cartagena until their scene is concrete for at least a month.