Cartagena Reports

[Rzrfl69]

Who has been to the original dolce vita!? I went when I was young. Before I knew about all this. Was a work convention. Was with a bunch of older guys. I really didn't know what we were at until years later when I figured it all out 🤣. Thought it was just hot easy girls every where 🤣. I was early 20's hahaha. I mean I knew some girls were haha. But not all! Just blew my mind when I realized. And the went back 🤣.

I feel every country / city for this hobby is uniqe. There are comparisons but none are the same. In ctg they are just everywhere. Sitting at El Mulle and two hot girls walk by and proposition you is just a beautiful thing. Even if you choose no they still have a beer and flirt.

[ChuchoLoco]

I do get a kick out of girls trying to tell me that the normal price is 200 dollars a hour.

I had one girl telling me yesterday a threesome would be 300 dollars each girl or 2 million 400 thousand pesos.

And she assured me I won't find a better price.

I told her baby, this isn't my first trip. It's possibly my 15th. And then nicely told her to get lost.

Some of these girls are dumb as rocks! But just equally so there's a dumbass who saw videos on YouTube and is on his way there to pay that.

My girl who's flying in from Medellin told me yesterday no need to lay over 200 k for any girl during the day. 300, maybe 400 at night if she's a stunner. And this is coming from a stunner that does this work almost full time.

I use this reply. I don't think many or any use it but it's funny and gets the point across. In Spanish: eso será cuando la rana heche pelo. It means, that will happen when the frog grows hair.

[Sangnyc21]

I do get a kick out of girls trying to tell me that the normal price is 200 dollars a hour.

I had one girl telling me yesterday a threesome would be 300 dollars each girl or 2 million 400 thousand pesos.

And she assured me I won't find a better price.

I told her baby, this isn't my first trip. It's possibly my 15th. And then nicely told her to get lost.

Some of these girls are dumb as rocks! But just equally so there's a dumbass who saw videos on YouTube and is on his way there to pay that.

My girl who's flying in from Medellin told me yesterday no need to lay over 200 k for any girl during the day. 300, maybe 400 at night if she's a stunner. And this is coming from a stunner that does this work almost full time.

Girls in Cart and Mde that are universally hot ain't taking 200 mil.

I've been going to mde for 6 years and at least 7-8 x a year.

The top tier girls have their targeted clientele.

Dolce Vita and Delirium girls are charging 100 $ usd he 300 $usd tln.

Gustos girls in mde are even asking 300 usd for an hour.

Guys are paying it and that's how with anything in life. My issue is they're asking for more and only willing to do much less.

Any girl who is actually hot knows they're hot with the attention they get and their history of guys paying them a certain amount. That's how it goes for these girls.

[Elvis 2008]

"IMO Bogota is probably the best city in the world for women".

I'm guessing you haven't been many places round the world LOL.

As far as the best in the world. Mmmm Have you been to PI, Colombia, Brazil, Dubai? Like I said I have never been to HK but I cannot see it topping some of the clubs I have been too in the past and that is just a few countries that I listed (not all). But I'm sure it will pass my test!

Dubai has imports. If you are into Russian and Ukrainian women, you can find them in Mexico City for a lot less. https://twitter.com/AlinaRusMex. I do prefer my Latinas but I would put Mexico City at #3. They do not have a strip club scene like other cities.

The OP has been to Brazil. I thought Rio was way overrated. Sao Paulo would probably be my #2 city, but it does not have a low end like Bogota does with Santa Fe.

I have not been to PI. I have been to Thailand. Yes, there are scores of women available and IMO they all looked like they were 14. I actually found Indonesian women more attractive, but I did not monger there.

Europe has some attractive women but the prices are out of control. The places where prices are better, England, Spain, and Portugal, I have not mongered in. Typically, though, European women tend to be distant. Argentine women are friendlier but they are the most distant of the Latin American women. There are abundant attractive women but I only met one I thought who was exceptional in and out of the bedroom. Most of the expats in Argentina prefer Paraguayan women.

Bogota has the low end scene with SF street walkers where you can get laid for $10. Only other country I have seen where you can get that good for that little is Paraguay.

Then you have the active middle scene with the strip clubs and escorts.

There is a good friend of mine, fellow ISGer, he tried Medellin and gave it up, said the women were too stuck up. He went to Santa Fe every day and said he never saw higher than an 8. He grades harsher than I do. I would say I saw three 9's in Santa Fe, but he went to a higher end dance club in Bogota and saw 9's and 10's.

It is that part a monger like yourself has not seen, the upper crust. That is where your jaw drops with Colombia. Only countries in South America I have seen 10's are in Colombia and Brazil and IMO the upper crust of Colombia are nicer, more educated, and harder working than Brazil. These Colombians are often open to Americans especially those who do not find Colombian machismo attractive.

Yeah, you go to a high end boite in Brazil and there are gorgeous women to be found. The same is true with Tijuana in Mexico with Hong Kong but go out of the club and you do not see the same lookers. The wild part about Colombia is the city with the least amount of lookers I have been to has been Cartagena. In other cities, my neck goes into spasm checking out the hotties all around.

So yeah, Bogota is #1. They have it all: attractive and cheap street walkers, low level strip clubs and high end ones, casas, a vibrant escort scene, and an upper crust of hotties that will knock your socks off. And best of all if you get one of these Colombian women to really like you, they will literally do anything for you. In his report of distinction, Routard touched on it in the Bogota section. There is nothing like a Colombian woman.

[Rzrfl69]

I do get a kick out of girls trying to tell me that the normal price is 200 dollars a hour.

I had one girl telling me yesterday a threesome would be 300 dollars each girl or 2 million 400 thousand pesos.

And she assured me I won't find a better price.

I told her baby, this isn't my first trip. It's possibly my 15th. And then nicely told her to get lost.

Some of these girls are dumb as rocks! But just equally so there's a dumbass who saw videos on YouTube and is on his way there to pay that.

My girl who's flying in from Medellin told me yesterday no need to lay over 200 k for any girl during the day. 300, maybe 400 at night if she's a stunner. And this is coming from a stunner that does this work almost full time.

[JayWonEm]

Did you do any of the 3 main clubs to see the more in demand females?

I was in bed early every night. Just couldn't hang LOL. Next trip I will plan on a siesta in the afternoon and a nap after dinner before going out. I would like to see the scene in all its glory.

[Nypher]

Did something happen to us physiologically when we got older or did the atmosphere change? I did not get burned when I was younger but these days it happens very easily. I usually go out into the ocean with a rashguard on now.

I'm starting to believe the atmosphere changed because even now when I go back to my home island to visit family I can see the air moving upward like I just opened a hot oven, it was never like this when I was a kid running around the yard bare foot. Now they cracking jokes calling me a Yankee because I'm slapping on sun screen and hardly go out in the day time but I see people darker than me walking around during the daytime with umbrellas over their head.

The sun is no joke around the Equator, its crazy.

[Mr Enternational]

The first time I went there in August I was walking around on the beach no shirt. I had it in my head "I was born in the Caribbean, I'm black, the fuck I need sunscreen for?" Two weeks later I get back state side, my dumb ass is peeling like a potato. I got burned up without even knowing it. That SPF 150 lives in my suitcase now. I learned jajaja.

Did something happen to us physiologically when we got older or did the atmosphere change? I did not get burned when I was younger but these days it happens very easily. I usually go out into the ocean with a rashguard on now.

[Nypher]

I just got back a couple of days ago after a Monday to Friday visit and can provide a few observations:

First, I read about the MIG form here, and in case anyone does a search for the form, be aware that the form is free. I noticed a bunch of "Sponsored" sites that as for payment. They are basically a scam. Make sure you go to the government site and fill out the free version (in English if you prefer). It is very easy.

I told this to many people in the WhatsApp groups and other forums and there's always that one "money don't matter to me" or "I'm just going to pay to make it easier" person that comes along and want to argue so I just stop saying anything and let people figure it out even though the website that makes them pay have a disclaimer that says they aren't affiliated.

Second, it was fucking hot. It was fucking hot in the daytime and fucking hot in the nighttime. Fucking hot and fucking humid. I am older and despite lots of water and sunscreen the weather got to me, even though I live in southern Florida. Sweating through three shirts a day and feeling chronically exhausted just didn't put me in a mood to fuck. It seems like the average temperature is about the same all year, but my guess is it is much more tolerable in the dry season when the humidity is low. Before I left the forecast was for lightning storms and rain the whole week. As it turns out there was barely a cloud, but as a result the humidity just hung around the whole week.

Yea summer time there don't play. The first time I went there in August I was walking around on the beach no shirt. I had it in my head "I was born in the Caribbean, I'm black, the fuck I need sunscreen for?" Two weeks later I get back state side, my dumb ass is peeling like a potato. I got burned up without even knowing it. That SPF 150 lives in my suitcase now. I learned jajaja.

Third, those who recommended an Airbnb over a "luxury" hotel were 100% correct. Not only did the hotel have a vigilant visitor policy, but I was issues a bracelet at check-in and had to wear it the whole visit. I had a room for two, and they asked whether my companion was with me, I said no, and the receptionist said something like "well, when you meet her she will have to check in." I chose not to check in a companion. As a result, I ended up with 3 girls, one for multiple visits, in their three shitty hotels.

Experience is the best teacher, now you know what to do to make your next trip even better.

Fourth, the city is a lot of fun. It is basically a tourist party town, and not even primarily US tourists. At this time of year a lot of South Americans come up for their winter vacation. The guy sitting next to me was half my age and a fluent Spanish-speaker, and we ended up going out on the "party bus", which I thought was a blast, and also doing a day trip to Club Bora Bora, which was very nice and ridiculously stupid to do without a hot date. He had an Airbnb, and ended up bringing several groups back to his place long after I was asleep. I will be using his spot for future visits. He was hitting on a variety of civvies with some success. It is very possible if you have game (speaking Spanish helps).

In terms of the girls, the first was 100 K COP off an ad site with a good local review, but looks were below average. Shitty hotel in the Bosque area, which was interesting. Second was a cute Venezuelan who listed 200 K COP, but who ended up at 300 K with oral natural and multiple pops. Her shitty hotel was in Bocagrande not too far from mine, and I ended up seeing her three times based on convenience, looks, and performance. The third was a clock tower pickup around 9 PM. Hot black Colombian chick with a sweet culona. 200 K quickie, plus 60 K for oral natural, in her shitty hotel which was just far enough away from the crowds that I would have bailed if we turned another corner and I didn't see people. I talked with a couple of other chicas in the clock tower area who quoted 300 K. Overall, my impression is that 300 K ($75/ HR) is the going rate, there are plenty of options at that price, and below that price you have to compromise looks or services. I am sure there are exceptions, but that seems to be where the market is. My Venezuelan quoted me $250 per day, or $200 per day for more than 3 days. I didn't discuss longer dates with any other girls, so that is one data point. In terms of the whole clock tower scene, I don't think I was out past 11 the whole trip (the mind was willing but the body was beat, and sometimes the mind wasn't even that willing). Even so, the first night I was there around 7 before the party bus and there were already a few girls out giving me the look. The last night there were probably a dozen girls within a block by 9 at night.

And now you see first hand when people say they only paid "low amount" you got an understanding of why and what they were paying for. Did you do any of the 3 main clubs to see the more in demand females?

Overall, as an exploratory visit, it was a success. Busted a sufficient number of nuts at an attractive price, and had a good time otherwise. Loved the food and the whole atmosphere. At the same time I definitely could do better with an Airbnb, good hydration and limited sun exposure, and longer dates in better surroundings. I am not a romantic, but I like at least some amenities. I will definitely also pace myself better, stay in the AC during the day, take a siesta, and head out after 10 at least one night to see the clock tower scene in full bloom. For me it is a cheap flight, and given the deplorable state of the hobby in southern Florida I can do a trip for the price of a couple of hour dates here. It may not be as inexpensive or enjoyable as it used to be, but it is still a great destination as far as I am concerned.

First trip is always tricky but once you know, you know, and now you know.

[SouthernOcean]

I am headed there the last of July. I usually stay in a hotel and in fact have a reservation at a girl friendly place in Central but would prefer a bigger Airbnb with a kitchen, living room and such. Please PM me with any Airbnbs you recommend that allow guests. Thanks.

[JayWonEm]

Man you must have some giant steel balls going to all these girls places. Your going to walk into the wrong with a few guys waiting to lighten the load of your bank account and pocket.

Nah. I know how to do research. The clock tower girl was risky but I made sure we didn't go anywhere where there weren't a number of other people visible, and as it happens I didn't have anything worth taking on me other than what I was paying the girl. The others were reviewed and reported to be safe.

[Rzrfl69]

Man you must have some giant steel balls going to all these girls places. Your going to walk into the wrong with a few guys waiting to lighten the load of your bank account and pocket.

[JayWonEm]

I just got back a couple of days ago after a Monday to Friday visit and can provide a few observations:

First, I read about the MIG form here, and in case anyone does a search for the form, be aware that the form is free. I noticed a bunch of "Sponsored" sites that as for payment. They are basically a scam. Make sure you go to the government site and fill out the free version (in English if you prefer). It is very easy.

Second, it was fucking hot. It was fucking hot in the daytime and fucking hot in the nighttime. Fucking hot and fucking humid. I am older and despite lots of water and sunscreen the weather got to me, even though I live in southern Florida. Sweating through three shirts a day and feeling chronically exhausted just didn't put me in a mood to fuck. It seems like the average temperature is about the same all year, but my guess is it is much more tolerable in the dry season when the humidity is low. Before I left the forecast was for lightning storms and rain the whole week. As it turns out there was barely a cloud, but as a result the humidity just hung around the whole week.

Third, those who recommended an Airbnb over a "luxury" hotel were 100% correct. Not only did the hotel have a vigilant visitor policy, but I was issues a bracelet at check-in and had to wear it the whole visit. I had a room for two, and they asked whether my companion was with me, I said no, and the receptionist said something like "well, when you meet her she will have to check in." I chose not to check in a companion. As a result, I ended up with 3 girls, one for multiple visits, in their three shitty hotels.

Fourth, the city is a lot of fun. It is basically a tourist party town, and not even primarily US tourists. At this time of year a lot of South Americans come up for their winter vacation. The guy sitting next to me was half my age and a fluent Spanish-speaker, and we ended up going out on the "party bus", which I thought was a blast, and also doing a day trip to Club Bora Bora, which was very nice and ridiculously stupid to do without a hot date. He had an Airbnb, and ended up bringing several groups back to his place long after I was asleep. I will be using his spot for future visits. He was hitting on a variety of civvies with some success. It is very possible if you have game (speaking Spanish helps).

In terms of the girls, the first was 100 K COP off an ad site with a good local review, but looks were below average. Shitty hotel in the Bosque area, which was interesting. Second was a cute Venezuelan who listed 200 K COP, but who ended up at 300 K with oral natural and multiple pops. Her shitty hotel was in Bocagrande not too far from mine, and I ended up seeing her three times based on convenience, looks, and performance. The third was a clock tower pickup around 9 PM. Hot black Colombian chick with a sweet culona. 200 K quickie, plus 60 K for oral natural, in her shitty hotel which was just far enough away from the crowds that I would have bailed if we turned another corner and I didn't see people. I talked with a couple of other chicas in the clock tower area who quoted 300 K. Overall, my impression is that 300 K ($75/ HR) is the going rate, there are plenty of options at that price, and below that price you have to compromise looks or services. I am sure there are exceptions, but that seems to be where the market is. My Venezuelan quoted me $250 per day, or $200 per day for more than 3 days. I didn't discuss longer dates with any other girls, so that is one data point. In terms of the whole clock tower scene, I don't think I was out past 11 the whole trip (the mind was willing but the body was beat, and sometimes the mind wasn't even that willing). Even so, the first night I was there around 7 before the party bus and there were already a few girls out giving me the look. The last night there were probably a dozen girls within a block by 9 at night.

Overall, as an exploratory visit, it was a success. Busted a sufficient number of nuts at an attractive price, and had a good time otherwise. Loved the food and the whole atmosphere. At the same time I definitely could do better with an Airbnb, good hydration and limited sun exposure, and longer dates in better surroundings. I am not a romantic, but I like at least some amenities. I will definitely also pace myself better, stay in the AC during the day, take a siesta, and head out after 10 at least one night to see the clock tower scene in full bloom. For me it is a cheap flight, and given the deplorable state of the hobby in southern Florida I can do a trip for the price of a couple of hour dates here. It may not be as inexpensive or enjoyable as it used to be, but it is still a great destination as far as I am concerned.

[TheMan31]

TS, the best high end clubs in Colombia are in Medellin, La Isla and Face Dos.

There are higher end clubs in North Bogota but honestly the women in them are not better looking than Santa Fe, so you are paying more and not getting anything better. Santa Fe is sketchy but you can take any girl out of the club or off the street for a lot less than the Northern clubs, and I have never had anything happen to me there. I knew an Asian guy who went every day for months and the only issue he had was when he left his drink unattended and got drugged. The majority of women in Santa Fe are not attractive but usually once a night, I would find an 8 or 9 to jump on.

IMO Bogota is probably the best city in the world for women. The Medellin women tended to all be hooker types IMO. The ones I met in Medellin and liked were always from somewhere else and were just there for school.

I have an apartment with my gal in Cartagena and honestly I have not seen near the lookers here I have in Bogota or Medellin.

The reason to come to Cartagena is the weather and beach. Bogota has pollution, high elevation, and horrible traffic. There are some beauties here but you are going to pay a lot for them and the town is much, much smaller than Bogota..

"IMO Bogota is probably the best city in the world for women".

I'm guessing you haven't been many places round the world LOL.

[SteelDh]

Anddddddddd that's why things are getting ruined for mongering hahahah. You explain it yourself.

Throwing and spending money at a mongering spot is only to get clout. That's it. You want to feel like a big shot and have these girls climb all over.

When are you guys going to learn its business! Yeah these girls may be having fun at the moment. Getting wasted helps even more. But they want their money. They need to pay for that room at the end of the week. They are there to work. Not to get a tan.

Discussing what's happening with friends, it's going to come down to a pimp messing up one of these guys walking around recording. And fucking up a group for not paying. Then things will change. And it's going to happen.

You simply can't argue against it. These groups are terrible for this hobby. Look at the DR.

I really am not going to address the group thing again. Nothing we can do about it. But it's ruining how this hobby was in ctg..

It's okay to move differently. My aim is to have fun and enjoy myself wherever I go. No one designated Cartagena an official mongering destination last time I checked. If that's ruining mongering for I don't know what to tell you. At the end of the day we meet girls have a good time and pay them. I'm not sure what the pushback is about. Yes YouTubers and travel influencers are bad for business other than that I'm not sure what your issue is.