Cartagena Reports

[UnknownGuy]

It's a real shame it has come down to this smh there's this girl I was talking to whose from Cartagena and she did confirm that this is in fact true, girls have to do their business in clubs and in the side streets, not in the zone by the Clock Tower (the whole soliciting / negotiation thing that is).

Was looking forward to seeing all the girls in that area damn, big bummer for me. I would've loved to experience that oh well.

You might be good. Just keep all the numbers you had since your last trip. I wouldn't be surprised if everything moves to another area outside the walled city like Getsemani or maybe even El Laguito area.

[UnknownGuy]

You seriously think the president of an entire country made a whole declaration because a few uneducated, unvoting, untaxpaying, broke ass street hookers complained about other street hookers or because of some holiday decorations?

There are actual law abiding citizens that do not give a fuck about your money that do not want to see this shit in their city. Do you want a bunch of hookers and tricks hanging on the corner down from your house or your city's primary landmark, or the place you and your family go get coffee or breakfast every morning?

You guys are really pompous to think you are doing the city a favor because you rent a hotel room and put a 100,000 pesos into a hooker's pocket.

Not staying that anything I said could be the sole reason, but any of them can be contributing factors. Anything can be thought of as a contributing factor.

No way can we think also that the money we spend in that city is just flushed down the toilet with the colombian country saying we don't need your stinking money. It all goes past just putting 100 K pesos into hookers pockets. It's the hotels and bars that get monger money that will be affected. It's the restaurants and shops that may see a decrease in their revenue. Even the street vendors that mongers and chicas buy cheap beer and trinkets from will feel it. Mongers taking tours and taking chicas on tours or renting boats may feel the pinch. I find it impossible to think that completely getting rid of a source of income to a country, no matter how small it may be, would not have any impact to the country. Colombian aint swimming in gold, maybe drugs, coffee and sugar but not gold. Look what happened to DR when they completely closed the borders during covid. The country felt the pinch of no tourism money and decided to roll the dice with covid and opened the borders back up. I'm curious to see where their focus will be after Christmas.

Here's another article that mention sex exploitation of minors and sex trafficking as well. https://goodwordnews.com/foreigners-...elcome-people/.

[Blingz]

You seriously think the president of an entire country made a whole declaration because a few uneducated, unvoting, untaxpaying, broke ass street hookers complained about other street hookers or because of some holiday decorations?

There are actual law abiding citizens that do not give a fuck about your money that do not want to see this shit in their city. Do you want a bunch of hookers and tricks hanging on the corner down from your house or your city's primary landmark, or the place you and your family go get coffee or breakfast every morning?

You guys are really pompous to think you are doing the city a favor because you rent a hotel room and put a 100,000 pesos into a hooker's pocket.

It's a real shame it has come down to this smh there's this girl I was talking to whose from Cartagena and she did confirm that this is in fact true, girls have to do their business in clubs and in the side streets, not in the zone by the Clock Tower (the whole soliciting / negotiation thing that is).

Was looking forward to seeing all the girls in that area damn, big bummer for me. I would've loved to experience that oh well.

[Mr Enternational]

Regarding the new law / situation, I don't see this law staying for too long. Maybe it's just there for the holiday season cause they will put up decorations in the Plaza. They prob just want give the streets a clean look. Scaring tourist, even sex tourists, will have an economic affect on the city. Now also doing this to keep money out of the street vennies hands, I understand. Colombian chicas prob complaining they loosing work to undocumented vennies, or vennies in general.

You seriously think the president of an entire country made a whole declaration because a few uneducated, unvoting, untaxpaying, broke ass street hookers complained about other street hookers or because of some holiday decorations?

There are actual law abiding citizens that do not give a fuck about your money that do not want to see this shit in their city. Do you want a bunch of hookers and tricks hanging on the corner down from your house or your city's primary landmark, or the place you and your family go get coffee or breakfast every morning?

You guys are really pompous to think you are doing the city a favor because you rent a hotel room and put a 100,000 pesos into a hooker's pocket.

[Ozu2019]

Watching YouTube and reading message boards lately on DR and Colombia, it is interesting that this hobby which was generally older or middle aged men, alone or with a few close buddies, and discreet, has now been adopted by young guys who act hard and presumably have access to girls back home. Also boggles my mind why people would want to publicize their mongering and encourage others to come ruin it.

I knew Sosua has been overrun for a while with this demographic, but when did Colombia fall victim? In 2015 it was awesome no American tourists. Is it as bad as I as reading / seeing on other boards with respect to the invasion or moronic young Americans in Colombia?

Would hate to go there and feel like I'm on Atlanta or NY or something.

Internet has been a blessing and a curse.

SMH.

[Kafka]

I don't think the large posse's from the US are the entire cause of the crackdown but that phenomenon of large groups of mongers all hanging out together taking pictures posting all the rest of the bullshit that we've all observed did not help. To my brothers who like to travel in packs this just not the right way to do it. If you want to travel in a pack go to Disneyland. If you want to man up be cool come hang out or more power to you.

[UnknownGuy]

For the vaccine card or anything you need to bring up quick, just take a screenshot and use that. No need to mess with any apps.

Regarding the new law / situation, I don't see this law staying for too long. Maybe it's just there for the holiday season cause they will put up decorations in the Plaza. I remember they had the decorations last year with fewer people in the Plaza cause of covid and curfews. I don't think they will bother the clubs with the new law. They prob just want give the streets a clean look. Scaring tourist, even sex tourists, will have an economic affect on the city. Now also doing this to keep money out of the street vennies hands, I understand. Colombian chicas prob complaining they loosing work to undocumented vennies, or vennies in general.

And what does the new designation do in the long run? Are you no longer allowed back in the country forever? Suspended for a brief period? Won't know till someone gets it and I know just the group that will and where it'll be posted when they get it.

[Nypher]

I forgot to add to my previous post.

Some genius decided to dress as a Arab prince and walk around Centro with fake police (yes, they were wearing vests and had "Police" Velcro tags instead of "Policia") drawing a crowd and having them follow him while some other genius was recording on a phone. They decided to do this walking right by Space / Dolce. SMH.

These new restrictions just may be a good thing.

[Nypher]

Nothing special to add to tonight "Wednesday" but just a heads up to future mongers.

My friend and I saw fireworks shooting up from Centro so we decided to go and see what's going on. So by the time we got there its over thanks to the flooding from the rain earlier causing cabs to drive through the high water and breaking down (we are coming from El Laguito). The Clock tower was barricaded off and no chicas anywhere but to be fair it is a Wednesday night and not a Weekend. We then decided to check out Dolce since it was about 8 pm and we can get first pick at the chicas when the bouncer at the door asked for vaccine card. Now, I'm ready to argue the fuck they talking about because they always pull some shit when we want to go in but then he points at the sign on the door and lo and behold it says as of the 3rd of November entry is prohibited unless you present your vaccine card. I can't argue with a sign that's in plain English jajaja. So we go to get the cards on our phones. Mine comes up and I'm good to go, my friend however vaccine card mysteriously disappeared from the NYS Wallet app now he have to redo all the instructions to get the card back. But we finally got in and just a bunch of girls standing around and the surprising thing is that I recognize many of the girls from my prior trips in the year but now many of them went and got fake tits. SMH. Such a let down, so we left and went over to Space, the guys at the door already know us by face and don't even ask for Vaccine card or pat us down and just waves us in to enjoy the chicas.

So as a heads up to the unvaccinated, Dolce is a no go unless you can work your way around it.

[Ozu2019]

Haven't been reading the CTG board until today since I was planning a trip in mid December. Had a great time in 2015. Reading about this crackdown is sad, but more sad is that it sounds like tourists are coming in hoards and without any discretion. Has the same demographic of American tourists that overran Sousa now started coming to CTG in large packs acting loud and stupid and then posting and bragging about it on YouTube and social media? If so then maybe the crackdown is a good thing. Sucks that I may need to cancel my trip.

[Tomasb]

Can't say I am surprised. I was there about three weeks ago and the general behavior of night time people there seemed different than in years past.

I used to go a lot to Cartagena and it was a lot more fun before the Vennie invasion. One night last month I found myself on that one block where LDV and Space is located. I was completely harassed by touts and women while walking over there, literally coming out of the doorways, doubling up on me, and crossing the street in an aggressive manner viewing me as a mark. On that particular occasion, I must have been hit on by ten not so pretty girls walking over from Plaza Madrid. It seemed to be a real low rent crowd too. It happened on the other street where Delirium is located as well. It was similar anti-social behavior with woman grabbing me — just a pure money grab — and I think many were Vennies. You used to never see girls in that area in prior years and they mainly stuck close to the plaza. Many of the touts struck me as a potentially dangerous due to their aggressive and at times hostile behavior. You know how it is, they follow you to the entry of LDV, for example, then try to get a payoff from the door for bringing you there even though I ignored them the entire time. I think it's a matter of time before there is an unfortunate incident involving a foreigner.

In years past, I don't even remember meeting a Vennie. They were usually girls from Medellin, Bucaramanga, or Cali and many were pretty nice, sometimes college students etc. , and had some memorable times. On this last trip, I did not encounter that type of lady; instead I got the feeling they were mostly trying to hustle you or worse.

Hopefully, this crackdown is short lived and rids the town of some of these bad elements.

You guys do not think they do not see the same hookers everyday? And those hoes usually dress a certain way too. You are a single foreign guy approaching one of them and it is easy to determine. You mongers and what you are doing is not invisible to the naked eye. Even blind people can see what is going on.

Looks like the people that say they blend in and look like a local will have an advantage. They will not appear to be a foreigner looking for hookers, but a local looking for hookers.

[Nypher]

Anyone flying JetBlue out of JFK prepare for a new annoyance. They did the usual no bag drop unless you show CheckMIG filled out but then once I got to the gate they made everyone line up to check if they had CheckMIG filled out before boarding. I was confused as fuck because they kept saying line up to have your documents ready but my boarding pass was on my phone so I was confused. I skipped the line because I already have it filled out and they tell me I don't have a check on my boarding pass. So I tell the lady this is my third time for the year and every time is something different what's next a drop of blood LOL. We laugh back and forth so I show her the CheckMIG email, scan my board pass and was on the plane. Passed the info onto my friend since he was coming Tuesday and he said they did the same shit to him about a smiley face on his boarding pass and because people didn't have their shit together that whole process made his plane depart 15 minutes late but he arrived 5 minutes early LOL.

For my first 2 days I've just been relaxing in the apartment with one of my regular chicas waiting for my friend to land. On my first day here, she told me to be careful because there is HIV going around due to increased tourists coming for sex and cops are looking for the girls to stop the spread. Of course I call bullshit, but her tactic worked because I only had her till Tuesday night. Tuesday we tried to go to La Serrezuela to eat and they asked for documents, we gave them our passport cards, then they asked for vaccine card and we looked at each other like WTF. Luckily we had the apps that had our cards inside. I then asked the hostess when did they start asking for vaccine cards because we were here in August and didn't have to show anything, she said they just started asking for cards on the 15th. (just a heads up to those not vaccinated, you may be asked to show the card or denied entry to restaurants).

Went out to the pussy triangle at Tuesday night. Lots of police at he clock tower. Barricades too. Very few girls walking around the clock tower, many inside Space and Dolce though. We both grabbed something out the club and headed back to the apartment to chill. Wednesday came around, rain, thunder, lighting. A wasted day so its just hanging out in the apartment until night time to head out and see what's out there.

Heads up for those coming in. Duty Free was stocked up on Titos $23 a piece and Ciroc 2 for $72.

Stay safe fellow mongers and don't get caught up an any bullshit here with these new enforcements.

[Brother P]

You guys do not think they do not see the same hookers everyday? And those hoes usually dress a certain way too. You are a single foreign guy approaching one of them and it is easy to determine. You mongers and what you are doing is not invisible to the naked eye. Even blind people can see what is going on. You are on the inside looking around and figure nobody on the outside can see in. Well they can!

Looks like the people that say they blend in and look like a local will have an advantage. They will not appear to be a foreigner looking for hookers, but a local looking for hookers.

They know who is who. Dudes are going to get jammed up fast. Chicas too probably. Going to be bad for dudes who get the unwanted label.

We both know no one blends in. LOL. That was funny. I won't be back until this is over. Going to miss this town!

[Mr Enternational]

Per the announcement Foreigners discovered seeking sex tout will be deported and label unwelcome people". How they are going to determine who is seeking is anyone's guess. I won't be back anytime soon.

I cannot see how the local law enforcement can tell who is a sex tourist or not. And to what degree does a foreigner and local girl talking to each other constitute as soliciting sex / prostitution?

You guys do not think they do not see the same hookers everyday? And those hoes usually dress a certain way too. You are a single foreign guy approaching one of them and it is easy to determine. You mongers and what you are doing is not invisible to the naked eye. Even blind people can see what is going on. You are on the inside looking around and figure nobody on the outside can see in. Well Surprise! They can.

Looks like the people that say they blend in and look like a local will have an advantage. They will not appear to be a foreigner looking for hookers, but a local looking for hookers.

[Brother P]

One thing that could turn into a worry is if they start doing things like they do in some cities in the USA and they start having gorgeous police women start to pose as prostitutes. Personally I think that this should be considered entrapment but they do it all the time. Entrapment is defined as inducing someone to do a crime they would not have otherwise done. So your argument is that if she had not been so sexy I never would have offered her money. Therefor if this partifcular women was not present there would not have been any crime.

Yes. I think this is already in place from what I've seen since the square is closed. My spidy senses were tingling!