Cartagena Reports

[JayWonEm]

Never said these girls have the financial literacy to save their money but one thing is for sure they burn through a lot of money.

The higher end girls simply won't accept 200-300 k pesos. And this is well known but you only bring up examples of your experiences. But as others have pointed out as well there's different levels of playing fields. I know prepagos who have cars and businesses and outright bought apartments on envigado and poblado.

Also consider that a lot of these "independent" girls work for agencies one way or another, and don't necessarily control their pricing. Last trip I contacted two mileroticos girls; they were both in the same building near Marbella. I ended up spending my entire trip with one of them and she told me she had to make a certain amount for the "company" she works for. Pretty sure an agency has a block of apartments in the same building and rotates chicas. No idea if any of those girls work the clubs when they're not booked.

I also speak enough Spanish to read the local review board (Doncolombia). You hear guys on there complaining about GPS and girls who want 400 K+. If they aren't fucking locals for less, do you think they give a shit about your opinion of market clearing prices and the wages of the average worker? Speaking of which, I do think there are girls who work in two markets. Maybe she does "un rato" for 80 K with locals, but it is in her incall in an area many of us wouldn't want to go. If she dresses up and goes to Centro looking for a gringo to bring her to his Airbnb in Bocagrande do you really think she is going to charge the same rate? By the way, that 80 K may be a day's wages for the local. Basically, unless you are a local or are embedded enough to pass, don't expect the same deal as the locals.

I know a lot of you are hung up on how good Cartagena "used to be", and how it is "ruined" now. There is a rule in finance called "ignore sunk costs". How good or bad someplace used to be, or what a girl used to charge, is irrelevant. We are in the present, and we have to make decisions based on the choices available to us now, not 5 or 10 years ago. If you think there are better places to visit because the girls are cheaper and you will overall have a better time, go there. Having said that, if you think paying $100 or even $150 for an hour with a good-looking chica is outrageous and the city is ruined, let me introduce you to Chloe and Zaya, who are charging $700 and $800 per hour, respectively, in the south Florida market. I'm not paying that, but if I come to Cartagena and pay a hot chica 600 K for an hour and anyone wants to tell me how I am overpaying I will get a good chuckle.

[AndruwJones62]

I am wondering if anyob.

One knows if there are any casas in CTG like in MDE? If you do please let me know where to locate them.

[Elvis 2008]

True.

False. It has nothing to do with the demand in an economic sense.

If you think demand does not affect pricing, then you know nothing about how markets work.

It has everything to do with horny guys and their money burning a hole in their pocket, then the women thinking well he he gave me this much, so everyone should give me this much. Men have always been their own worst enemy.

Sigh. If a woman can get other men to pay her more, she was undercharging men. If she cannot, then her price is too high. The concept that women could be undercharging is a foreign concept to you.

Why is my apartment costing 50% more than it did 2 years ago? Why have hotel rates doubled in Colombia in the last 2 years? It must be because stupid men are overpaying because for you, that is all that can move prices.

[Sangnyc21]

Or what you think are the newest iPhones. How many rappers and athletes wear fake jewelry and folks are none the wiser? Chicks that I know that have authentic expensive phones have a trick that has bought it for them. How many posts on here you see about guys wanting to bring phones for chicks? Now imagine how many guys that are not on here are doing it.

When you show me that iPhone money in their bank account is when you will have a point. Clothes and makeup are cheap. Assuming someone is really raking it in by looking at what kind of phone they have? Come on man. You are smarter than that. Go to where they are staying then come back and report how they are making 7 million pesos. Reminds me of when Birdman said he didn't have shit, but that did not stop him from making the records saying he had shit. Who knew it was not true? Afterall, they showed a helicopter in the video. It is an illusion.

Never said these girls have the financial literacy to save their money but one thing is for sure they burn through a lot of money.

The higher end girls simply won't accept 200-300 k pesos. And this is well known but you only bring up examples of your experiences. But as others have pointed out as well there's different levels of playing fields. I know prepagos who have cars and businesses and outright bought apartments on envigado and poblado.

[PerkinWarbeck]

The guys who post in this thread don't live in Cartagena. They don't speak Spanish. They literally don't know better than any of the first timers who pay those rates to the girls.

And I want to apologize to you guys for making this even a topic. Please pay whatever rates you want, but also, please don't pretend like those rates are normal. Those girls work for much less than that consistently.

And to get it back on track: I was downtown last night getting dinner and the police presence has picked back up. Crime outside the tourist zones is still pretty bad, so they peeled off some of the police force to patrol. Semana Santa is just about a month away, and the presence is back. There were more police in the square than tourists when I was walking home last night. A few girls tried to eye me down, but I don't pick up women there. Too many people know me, and word spreads quick. I will get some WhatsApp numbers on Friday.

[Mr Enternational]

And yes there's tons of posts saying how guys ruin it for others.

Yes. Once again ruin it for OTHERS, not for themselves. Nypher and Gabacho know how to navigate. You are not going to ruin it for them. The new guy coming next week, you may ruin it for, but shit he won't know the difference anyway.

I have been saying for damn near 15 years how Sosua has been ruined, but the newer guys said I was hating. Now that it has been made worse by those after them, they want to claim it as ruined. And I am not saying that it is ruined for me because I have been driving around the country for years meeting chicks that are not hookers. The ruined strip in Sosua is not my bread and butter, so my observation about it as being ruined is not saying it affects me.

[Mr Enternational]

If there are places where there are hot and cheap women, and it is easy to get to, you should assume it it not going to last.

True.

The demand for said women is eventually going to push up the price.

False. It has nothing to do with the demand in an economic sense. It has everything to do with horny guys and their money burning a hole in their pocket, then the women thinking well he he gave me this much, so everyone should give me this much. Men have always been their own worst enemy.

Now in my country it is starting to turn out that Americans will end up being their own worst enemy. They are doing it to themselves.

[Mr Enternational]

Yeah, and that story also showed you are a hypocrite. You have preached pussy is pussy and then in that story, you said that the white Chinese looking women in Thailand go for more. By doing so, you admitted that the market price IS set by looks.

I did not say they go for more. I said some guys want to pay them more. And I did not say there was any market price. You pay what you negotiate. They are no different.

I was in the soapy with my buddy last night. The guy handed him the card with prices. The girls wear tags according to her price. There were 5 price tiers. S was the highest at $155. There was only one chick with S and there was nothing special about her. I asked my buddy do you see any reason why this chick should be more than that chick? He said no. I said and different days they switch tags so this chick will be getting paid more and that one less. Also let me add that the chicks gets half of what you pay. So if you pay $50 in there she gets $25 of it. You think she will not take $25 outside? Which is it? Is she worth the $50 that you paid or the $25 that she actually gets paid? Is your supposed market price the $25 she gets paid or the $50 that you paid?

Same here at the Russian clubs. Indian or arab guys will go in there and pay $300 to sit and drink with a Russian chick because where they are from they do not see White chicks and it is their dream to be around them. (Did you see the Indian guys that gang raaped the Brazilian chick the other day and beat up her husband? They never seen a Brazilian chick so to them it was worth it to risk their freedom.) To mfs that are used to this shit then pussy is pussy and they see no reason to sit and drink with a chick for $300 simply because she is White or do the other thing that those guys did. I see no reason to pay 800 K to a chick simply because she had surgery and some other trick bought her a nice phone.

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[Mr Enternational]

The amount of time chicas I approached got their WhatsApp or Instagram, and through back and forth texting told me 800 K for the night and I told them no and moved on to the next one, only to see them a week or 2 weeks later posting pictures of statuses in Tulum, Cancun, Mexico City, Ecuador, Brazil, Punta Cana, Italy, Morocco, Croatia, Paris, Spain, etc, and the funny thing is right now as I'm typing this, these same exact girls are now in NYC, Chicago, Philly, DC, NJ, Houston, Miami and posting pictures of them being there.

And I have also seen them hoes turn back into pumpkins and be right back in that same one room apartment in the hood.

[Mr Enternational]

But you'll see them with the newest iPhones and clothes and makeup etc.

You're not seeing the point. Sex work in general will always pay more than a regular job and that's just how it's always been.

Or what you think are the newest iPhones. How many rappers and athletes wear fake jewelry and folks are none the wiser? Chicks that I know that have authentic expensive phones have a trick that has bought it for them. How many posts on here you see about guys wanting to bring phones for chicks? Now imagine how many guys that are not on here are doing it.

When you show me that iPhone money in their bank account is when you will have a point. Clothes and makeup are cheap. Assuming someone is really raking it in by looking at what kind of phone they have? Come on man. You are smarter than that. Go to where they are staying then come back and report how they are making 7 million pesos. Reminds me of when Birdman said he didn't have shit, but that did not stop him from making the records saying he had shit. Who knew it was not true? Afterall, they showed a helicopter in the video. It is an illusion.

[Sangnyc21]

I am not a paying member in hooker's trade union. I don't care how much they make or spend, I don't regulate their fares. Yes, I know minimum wage, transportation costs, rental costs etc. I know how much the rates are inside of Cartagena's barrios and all over the country. I even know where to get the best deal for a top hooker and I won't tell anyone. It's my vacation, my money, my time. Moreover I like when folks overpay because it attracts flocks of new birds in the trade, the more guys overpay the more girls are going to show up. So, I am going to make a reasonable offer to a top looker which she may accept, chat with her and make sure I won't be embarrassed later seeing my photo collection. How she is going to perform at least partially depends on how she is paid.

Some guys have to simply stay in their lane.

Some girls are simply not in their price range and those girls won't come down off their price simply because they have options also.

But Mr E will always bring up a one time story that tries to debunk almost anything anyone says.

These girls are in the most exotic locations and most expensive hotels that most on this forum couldn't afford. I think the bitterness is real.

If you have the mentality that pussy is pussy and don't remotely care about the physical appearance of a woman as long as she has a vagina between her legs then you can bargain basement hunt all you want.

[Questner]

Exactly. And the whole notion that guys are going to hold out on paying a woman you are DTF because of the guys on ISG is laughable. If you want to pay Colombian prices, go to places where there are few to no tourists. That is not Cartagena.

I am not a paying member in hooker's trade union. I don't care how much they make or spend, I don't regulate their fares. Yes, I know minimum wage, transportation costs, rental costs etc. I know how much the rates are inside of Cartagena's barrios and all over the country. I even know where to get the best deal for a top hooker and I won't tell anyone. It's my vacation, my money, my time. Moreover I like when folks overpay because it attracts flocks of new birds in the trade, the more guys overpay the more girls are going to show up. So, I am going to make a reasonable offer to a top looker which she may accept, chat with her and make sure I won't be embarrassed later seeing my photo collection. How she is going to perform at least partially depends on how she is paid.

[Sangnyc21]

Can and do are two different things. You would see them living in new condos and driving Mercedes, instead of telling the trick he has to pay her taxi too, if they were making that much money.

But you'll see them with the newest iPhones and clothes and makeup etc.

You're not seeing the point. Sex work in general will always pay more than a regular job and that's just how it's always been.

[Sangnyc21]

Where is the post that guys say this? There is not one. We say you are fucking it up for other guys coming after you, not for ourselves. We already know the deal and how to navigate and are trying to put others on game. You are not fucking it up for us.

I just said the other day how my buddy here in Thailand did not listen and paid the chick $110 because he had to have her. According to you I was hating when I told him that was way too much. She wanted to come back the next day but he wised up and now only wanted to give her half of that but she refused because he had already fucked it up for himself. The day after that she hit him up begging to take the half he was offering. Then he tried to go even lower to what I told him to pay in the first place. I was like man don't play games with the chick. You should have stuck with the price I was telling you from the jump instead of paying 3 times more. But when he first got here he was so excited and horny and that money was burning such a hole in his pocket, that what I said went in one ear and out the other (or maybe he thought I was hating!) Later on, he realized that what I told him was gospel and he did fuck around and overpay when she hit him up begging for the lesser amount.

If I'm going on vacay why would I care about 100 $ on a plane ticket.

My time on when I'm free to to travel and how much time I can spend away is more valuable.

And yes there's tons of posts saying how guys ruin it for others.

Haters are the ones that get upset if someone pays more than they do and have something negative to say about it. The difference between you telling a friend how much to pay is based on your experience.

Also the level of women me and you look at are completely different. I deal a lot more with independents and don't do street girls or casas or clubs.

And congrats on your free chick. Quite an accomplishment.

[Nypher]

So when you see that plane ticket is $800, you are not trying to wait to see if it drops to $700, because your time is more valuable than $100? Or is it just when it comes to pussy that your time is more valuable than $100?

You have me dying right now LOL.

My boy is crying right now cause his return ticket alone is $700 at Blue Basic. When I told him to get it back in January when I did, I got round trip Blue Extra for a little under $500. He wanted to wait for that price drop lmfao.