Cartagena Reports

[Black Page]

Another example is when I want to buy things I do not walk up and say how much for 5 of those. I walk up and say how much for 1 of those. Then once I know the base that I am working with I can say well give me 5 and get a cheaper price.

Spot on! A basic trading principle.

[Black Page]

Completely wrong on 2 counts.

Gosh. ! I intended to write something funny, but you argue my words as if they were a legal statement. I am sorry my irony was taken seriously.

Indeed, the only liaison that Google can find between "Obama", "Cartagena" and "girls" is this adventure of those guys (RIP).

Last but not least, I really do not care about a President being black or not black, Afro or African, and the like. This is a discussion that may be of interest only for (some) Americans.

[Nypher]

Why really bad move?? So I have a menu to choose from?? To ask the rate I cut out the bullshit of oh I get 500 k. Yeah. Right. I can tell that attitude I won't like already. Bye. Oh I take 300. Ok baby your cute but I'll give you 200. Ok let's go.

This will be my I believe 8th trip there now. Feel I have it down pretty good as far as the girls and how it works there.

And everyone has their own tastes. What's your 9 could very well be my 3 and reverse as well.

I just say go gettem. Never just take asking price. Always negotiate. It comes down to what amount you feel is worth it. No one is saying you have to choose her. But also keep in mind. Don't spoil the land for others! Just because 500 k may be nothing for you, that's not what it's going value is and eventually the 500 will be 800 and more.

That's how I think of it.

Have fun!

I'm completely lost here.

This I your 8th trip and you're still making rookie mistakes. Never ask the price, tell them how much you are willing to pay and then start negotiating from there. Its easier to negotiate up than it is to negotiate down.

Why don't you already have a list of solid contacts there on the ground from your 8 previous trips? Are you the ever trip it must be all new girls type?

8th trip and your still looking for a breakfast place? Come on, if you're staying at a place with a full kitchen, whatever chica that stays over, have them cook breakfast. Supermarcados are everywhere and its easy to stock up on breakfast items.

By your 8th trip you should already know what to do, where to eat, what the rules are, where to find information, etc. Jajaja.

I just don't get it, you make it seem like every time you land you go back to square 1 trying to figure stuff out for the first time.

[Rzrfl69]

To each their own. I have my method that works well for me. I like to have a few sure set things on the side I can count on and hunt for the majority while I am there. You don't try to pre book something and discuss price at time of service. You arrange services before hand. That's why I enjoy traveling and doing this alone. What works well for me might not for others.

[Mr Enternational]

Why really bad move?? So I have a menu to choose from?? To ask the rate I cut out the bullshit of oh I get 500 k.

You are not there ready to do business, so that would surely get you the higher price. You specifically asked per hour which is also not smart. This is how shit has gotten messed up in a lot of places. In many places chicks would stay until the cows come home, but have now put a clock on things because shit like this. Even if I would ask such questions then I would get the price first, then establish a time for that particular price. 250K for 1 hour with a freelancer is ridiculous in Colombia when most people make only 4 times that for an entire month.

Another example is when I want to buy things I do not walk up and say how much for 5 of those. I walk up and say how much for 1 of those. Then once I know the base that I am working with I can say well give me 5 and get a cheaper price. Had I asked how much for 5 off the bat then I would have been given the highest price. So establish a base by asking for a general price with the chick, then work with how much time it will be.

[Rzrfl69]

Why really bad move?? So I have a menu to choose from?? To ask the rate I cut out the bullshit of oh I get 500 k. Yeah. Right. I can tell that attitude I won't like already. Bye. Oh I take 300. Ok baby your cute but I'll give you 200. Ok let's go.

This will be my I believe 8th trip there now. Feel I have it down pretty good as far as the girls and how it works there.

And everyone has their own tastes. What's your 9 could very well be my 3 and reverse as well.

I just say go gettem. Never just take asking price. Always negotiate. It comes down to what amount you feel is worth it. No one is saying you have to choose her. But also keep in mind. Don't spoil the land for others! Just because 500 k may be nothing for you, that's not what it's going value is and eventually the 500 will be 800 and more.

That's how I think of it.

Have fun!

[Mojo Bandit]

Guys who cares. Come on. Hey I am coming there in 2 days, please send me some photos and how much pesos per hour.

Maybe you see her at the beach. A restaurant. Or a club.

They are every where!

I like your attitude but I do not think I would be asking how much pesos. I would be telling them. After I saw the photos - 200 k COP for ST - 2 hours BBBJ is the rate I would pay so I would start around 150 k and negotiate. 10 years ago I used to see hot hot little sweeties everywhere from Plaza de Santo Domingo to Cafe del Mar at sunset. But I do not see the pros as much in these places my last couple of trips I hope you have better seeing them outside of Plaza de LOS Coches and the clubs.

[RacShack]

Really bad move, but okay.

MR E, this is same guy that's claims we never been their, but he knows it all let him be, he's such a expert he was asking for information on where to eat breakfast! LOL I wish I've been their before, I could have recommended a couple local joints that are amazing, but let him keep getting treated like a tourist, it's his 4 or 5th time their or was it his 7 or 8th? I lost track!

[Mr Enternational]

I literally have 40#s in my phone now from tinder labeled ctg. Next week I pretty much plan on texting each one. Hey I am coming there in 2 days, please send me some photos and how much pesos per hour.

Really bad move, but okay.

[JjBee62]

"Some of his ancestors can claim to be "American"? Not to belabor the point but the only race who can claim to be truly American are the indigenous tribes who were here when Columbus arrived. The rest of us are immigrants, nearly all of whom encountered some level of discrimination. Also, most South Americans consider themselves 'American' too. From that standpoint, they look at those residing north of the Rio Grande as Norte Americanos. But I do not mean to parse your words and this is a bit of an age old discussion anyway.

As Black Page noted above, the egregious behavior of some of his secret service detail prior to Obama's arrival for a conference upended the entire hotel industry here and their prior lax treatment of allowing unregistered guests to hotel rooms.

I'm not sure any of the natives can claim to be American. It wasn't called America until 1507, and I doubt if the indigenous tribes were CC'd in on the email.

Perhaps I should clarify. Citizens of the United States of America commonly refer to themselves as "Americans. " Canadian citizens can do that too, except they don't want anyone to think they're Americans.

[JjBee62]

I'm not sure why you decided you had to correct someone's use of terminology, but guess you just couldn't help yourself and was all there is to it.

I didn't correct your terminology. I tried to understand what it meant and why you felt is was crucial information for the Cartagena thread. I still don't understand. Feel free to elaborate, because I would certainly like to grasp what the connection is.

Does "Barry Obama" own some chica friendly apartments in Cartagena? Is he offering wingman or guide services? If so, do you have a contact number? Maybe he can teach me to surf.

[Evac305]

I don't know who needs to read this but the best talent isn't at the clock tower it's in the clubs, especially Dolce vita. I'm reading guys are "disappointed" in the talent at the clock tower so to save anybody else more disappointment the clock tower is full of 6's at best that can't compete with the girls in the clubs. Is it possible to find a gem at the clock tower, of course but set your expectations accordingly.

[Rzrfl69]

Guys who cares. Come on.

I can't wait! I even added a day to my trip. Will be there next Thursday now through Sunday. Anyone wana meet for a beer let me know.

I read the post about one of Juan's apartments only allowing one guest per person. I asked him and he said as far as he knows nothing had changed with that building and you can have multiple visitors?? I did ask him to double check as that's where I will be!

Yeah how is that curfew? I don't want to deal with any bullshit of getting stopped and having to grease someone to not deal with BS.

And lastly, anyone have a good breakfast spot to recommend?! I always struggle with that. I am a morning person. Everything I find online is about brunch etc.

I literally have 40#s in my phone now from tinder labeled ctg. Next week I pretty much plan on texting each one. Hey I am coming there in 2 days, please send me some photos and how much pesos per hour.

These are ones I've already weeded out. Then I can just pick and choose and negotiate some fun! Amazing what we can do now. Plus just the fun of walking around Cartagena and scouting out more delicious Colombian treats 😍. Maybe you see her at the beach. A restaurant. Or a club.

They are every where!

[Golfinho]

I'm completely lost here. Does this mean that I get to decide who is allowed to belong to a culture which I don't belong to? Do I get to decide whether or not someone is Jewish based upon whether or not their ancestors were victims of the Holocaust?

It seems quite obvious that one of Obama's ancestors can trace his ancestry back to Africa. It also appears some of his ancestors can claim to be American. I guess it never occurred to me that all our day to day experiences can only be looked at based upon what our ancestors were doing 5-15 generations ago.

I'm not even sure what Obama has to do with mongering in Cartagena, or really anything in Cartagena, or anywhere else. Last I heard he was just another retired politician.

I'm not sure why you decided you had to correct someone's use of terminology, but guess you just couldn't help yourself and was all there is to it.

[JjBee62]

He does. Some of his smart secret agents had quite an adventure in Cartagena, Hotel Caribe.

In this tasty report, even directions for best mongering in Cartagena are deducted from their adventure:
https://www.theatlantic.com/national...tagena/327744/

Completely wrong on 2 counts.

First "does" is present tense. Unless you've mastered time travel, something that happened over 9 years ago isn't something which is happening now. Otherwise the exchange rate would be 1800 COP to USD.

Second, the President doesn't hire Secret Service agents, doesn't assign them and isn't responsible for their behavior, particularly when they are off duty.

Do you feel that something which happened in 2012 has any significance to the current mongering situation in Cartagena? Or do you feel that your mongering is controlled by whether or not Obama is black enough to be considered black?