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  1. #14159
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    Exactly. That's why I like going to places like cucuta or Villavicencio even. You get the real unadulterated prices. Something these guys know nothing about.
    So to my understanding the price of pussy is dirt cheap where there is increased danger of being kidnapped or worse and as soon as increased safety occurs with police presence then more gringos go there and mess up the prices.

    I doubt many gringos are going to be trying to do Google translate in A town bordering Venezuela or another off to the side of the capital jajaja.

  2. #14158
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Exactly. You are comparing apples and oranges. Apples being local and oranges being gringos. It is not that she is worth this or she knows her worth. It is that gringos are going to come along and put prices out of the local equilibrium. In cities where there is no gringo market, you don't get chicks trying to charge 800,000 pesos. They would never get a customer.

    It says nothing to how good the chick looks as some gringos want to say. It says everything to who the primary customers in the particular zone are. The girls are not setting any prices as much as the customers are. If no dudes are paying 800,000, then no chicks are trying to charge 800,000.
    Takes me back to this post 2 years ago http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2664834.

    When I met her from Tinder in 2021 it was 400 mil for the night, I tried it once, but couldn't get past the heavy makeup on an older face looking like an Ewok. When I came back in 2022 I saw her in Dolce and she wanted $100 for the hour. I passed.

    She got exposed to overpaying gringos and they were flying her out in Mexico. By the start of 2023 some gringo brought her to the NYC area and she is posting all over, Vegas, Montreal, NJ, NYC, etc.

    I don't know who brought her here but best of luck to them trying to make a pro a wife.
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  3. #14157
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Exactly. You are comparing apples and oranges. Apples being local and oranges being gringos. It is not that she is worth this or she knows her worth. It is that gringos are going to come along and put prices out of the local equilibrium. In cities where there is no gringo market, you don't get chicks trying to charge 800,000 pesos. They would never get a customer.

    It says nothing to how good the chick looks as some gringos want to say. It says everything to who the primary customers in the particular zone are. The girls are not setting any prices as much as the customers are. If no dudes are paying 800,000, then no chicks are trying to charge 800,000.

    It is not how folks try to put it in comparison to cars. Ferrari has high research and development costs and the material that they source for their products is not cheap, therefore the prices are higher than a Ford.

    All a chick with a pussy needs is bus fare to show up. And half the time she can even suck the taxi driver's dick for a free ride or if met online tell the gringo to be ready to pay the taxi when she arrives. The only factor leading her to charge 800,000 or ask for money in dollars is that the gringos have paid 800,000 or paid in dollars. If not for gringos there would be hardly any chicks around asking for over 100,000 pesos. When it comes to buying pussy overseas, foreigners are their own worst enemy.
    Exactly. That's why I like going to places like cucuta or Villavicencio even. You get the real unadulterated prices. Something these guys know nothing about.

  4. #14156
    Quote Originally Posted by Nypher  [View Original Post]
    If this chica was to hop on a plane and go to Cartagena. Would she also be doing GFE BBFS for 100 mil for 30 - 40 minutes or would she be instantly talking in dollars saying $100?

    She's 19, it appears she doesn't know any better or haven't been anywhere else outside of Bogota to know any better. Wait until she's 21 or she gets a little more experience in working in other places and watch that 100 mil increase or no more BBFS. Or a gringo comes along and offers to take her to Baru or San Andres for a weekend, that's all it takes.
    Exactly. You are comparing apples and oranges. Apples being local and oranges being gringos. It is not that she is worth this or she knows her worth. It is that gringos are going to come along and put prices out of the local equilibrium. In cities where there is no gringo market, you don't get chicks trying to charge 800,000 pesos. They would never get a customer.

    It says nothing to how good the chick looks as some gringos want to say. It says everything to who the primary customers in the particular zone are. The girls are not setting any prices as much as the customers are. If no dudes are paying 800,000, then no chicks are trying to charge 800,000.

    It is not how folks try to put it in comparison to cars. Ferrari has high research and development costs and the material that they source for their products is not cheap, therefore the prices are higher than a Ford.

    All a chick with a pussy needs is bus fare to show up. And half the time she can even suck the taxi driver's dick for a free ride or if met online tell the gringo to be ready to pay the taxi when she arrives. The only factor leading her to charge 800,000 or ask for money in dollars is that the gringos have paid 800,000 or paid in dollars. If not for gringos there would be hardly any chicks around asking for over 100,000 pesos. When it comes to buying pussy overseas, foreigners are their own worst enemy.

  5. #14155
    Quote Originally Posted by JackTaggart  [View Original Post]
    Not directly related to cartegena. Its Bogota in Chapinero. But this is a 19 year old that my buddy and I have been fucking GFE BBFS cip for 100 mil in a casa for 30 to 40 minutes. She won't give a face pic. But she's super cute.

    This next comment is not meant to be argumentative. But those girls from the posted pictures on this topic from the last few days are super ratchet. I wouldn't fuck them for free with or without a condom. Seriously.

    It all goes towards the fact that the rating of 8's, 9's, 10's is meaningless. I would suggest that clearly 1 to 5 is agreed upon to be unfuckable though. But the idea that any of the women in pictures from the last few days would be a woman that you would pay hundreds for and wine/dine on a trip for insane to me. But no judgement. We are all into different woman.
    She looks good bro!

    I wouldn't mind skeeting in her pussy as well LOL.

    Not bad for 100 mil COP.

    Cheers!

  6. #14154
    Quote Originally Posted by JackTaggart  [View Original Post]
    Perhaps it was poorly phrased. We are separately fucking her in the casa. Much more romantic that way.

    I'm defining GFE as sensual, cuddling, kissing. But it is a casa after all. So maybe I should say GFE lite. Definitely not pornstar experience.

    But in Bogota you can pay 200,000 for an even better looking (for me) 19-22 year old university student to come to your apartment or motel for true GFE for 2, 3 or more hours. These are not photoprepagaros girls. I have a few regulars now in the rotation. Personaly I like to balance my regulars out with a few casa girls because the casa doesn't really require much scheduling or planning.

    Most of these girls I see won't travel though. Or won't easily because of their school and work schedules. Currently only 1 of mine is willing to. So maybe their prices would get ruined if they started to go to Cartegena.And maybe this lack of ability to travel keeps the pricing down.

    I would pay double though for my current experiences. But I just don't need to.
    What I highly dislike about this forum is the time it takes for the Mods to review and approve a post. TBH is is why I prefer the discord and WhatsApp groups instant info.

    Your post basically sums up what I replied to this morning about the previous post jajaja.

    The chicas inexperience and lack of ability to travel keeps the prices dirt cheap to her geo location. Once they venture out to Cartagena or another gringo comes along and offer more, those dirt prices for premium services will stop.

  7. #14153
    Quote Originally Posted by JackTaggart  [View Original Post]
    Not directly related to cartegena. Its Bogota in Chapinero. But this is a 19 year old that my buddy and I have been fucking GFE BBFS cip for 100 mil in a casa for 30 to 40 minutes. She won't give a face pic. But she's super cute.

    This next comment is not meant to be argumentative. But those girls from the posted pictures on this topic from the last few days are super ratchet. I wouldn't fuck them for free with or without a condom. Seriously.

    It all goes towards the fact that the rating of 8's, 9's, 10's is meaningless. I would suggest that clearly 1 to 5 is agreed upon to be unfuckable though. But the idea that any of the women in pictures from the last few days would be a woman that you would pay hundreds for and wine/dine on a trip for insane to me. But no judgement. We are all into different woman.
    How long this "100 mil" been going on and how long that chica been working?

    If this chica was to hop on a plane and go to Cartagena. Would she also be doing GFE BBFS for 100 mil for 30 - 40 minutes or would she be instantly talking in dollars saying $100?

    She's 19, it appears she doesn't know any better or haven't been anywhere else outside of Bogota to know any better. Wait until she's 21 or she gets a little more experience in working in other places and watch that 100 mil increase or no more BBFS. Or a gringo comes along and offers to take her to Baru or San Andres for a weekend, that's all it takes.

    People normally pay according to where they are and the type of girl they get is according to what their budget allows and when the girls are young and inexperienced it's blood in the water.

    For example, about a year or so ago I mentioned Isabel in a post trying to charge 800 mil a night one night I was in Delirium. When I first met her on tinder in 2021 she was 400 mil for the night, I didn't take her because I found another girl who was more in shape. It wasn't until after, I discovered the reason why she doubled was because one person decided to try pass her off as a regular girl and interview her throwing a bunch of thirsty ass gringos her way blowing up her head. Now she thinks she's worth that high price because guys blew her head up. Last time I saw her walking in centro she gained more weight but some people like them big and pay the asked price.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF9gKGH1eCo
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  8. #14152
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    If you AND your buddy have been fucking her and skeeting in her pussy, then that seems the exact opposite of a girlfriend experience. Pornstar experience maybe.
    Perhaps it was poorly phrased. We are separately fucking her in the casa. Much more romantic that way.

    I'm defining GFE as sensual, cuddling, kissing. But it is a casa after all. So maybe I should say GFE lite. Definitely not pornstar experience.

    But in Bogota you can pay 200,000 for an even better looking (for me) 19-22 year old university student to come to your apartment or motel for true GFE for 2, 3 or more hours. These are not photoprepagaros girls. I have a few regulars now in the rotation. Personaly I like to balance my regulars out with a few casa girls because the casa doesn't really require much scheduling or planning.

    Most of these girls I see won't travel though. Or won't easily because of their school and work schedules. Currently only 1 of mine is willing to. So maybe their prices would get ruined if they started to go to Cartegena.And maybe this lack of ability to travel keeps the pricing down.

    I would pay double though for my current experiences. But I just don't need to.

  9. #14151
    Quote Originally Posted by JackTaggart  [View Original Post]
    But this is a 19 year old that my buddy and I have been fucking GFE BBFS cip
    If you AND your buddy have been fucking her and skeeting in her pussy, then that seems the exact opposite of a girlfriend experience. Pornstar experience maybe.

  10. #14150
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    I can prove that you guys in Cartagena are overpaying. This is Angeles a chica I met in Medellin in Plaza Botero. Here she charges 40 mil for a rato and I have gotten her to accept 60 mil for BBFS (I repeated a cpl times).

    Anyways she says you guys are paying her $100 usd up there in Cartagena. Dame girl, same vagina, same service. Why the need to pay so much more??

    And just to clarify, I'm not bitter mad or upset, in fact I haven't even been fucking her lately. I've been on to the next one. I'm just trying to understand the logic in paying $100 usd for something that costs $12 usd.

    Its like Mac Dre said "I can sell an Eskimo ice at a high price and get him twice" in that analogy you guys are the Eskimos LOL.
    Not directly related to cartegena. Its Bogota in Chapinero. But this is a 19 year old that my buddy and I have been fucking GFE BBFS cip for 100 mil in a casa for 30 to 40 minutes. She won't give a face pic. But she's super cute.

    This next comment is not meant to be argumentative. But those girls from the posted pictures on this topic from the last few days are super ratchet. I wouldn't fuck them for free with or without a condom. Seriously.

    It all goes towards the fact that the rating of 8's, 9's, 10's is meaningless. I would suggest that clearly 1 to 5 is agreed upon to be unfuckable though. But the idea that any of the women in pictures from the last few days would be a woman that you would pay hundreds for and wine/dine on a trip for insane to me. But no judgement. We are all into different woman.
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  11. #14149
    Quote Originally Posted by DJHeywood  [View Original Post]
    Turns out Space is closed for good. To be replaced by generic hookah bar. As all the news would need boots on the ground for if it's still a working girl bar. Imo, if it's a first timer I wouldn't go to Cartagena as I felt Clocktower / Walled City clubs was such an easy, relatively safe, and efficient spot for beginners.

    For the Spanish proficient, vets, guys who stay 10+ days then the long game works in your favor. But it's no long a good plug & play spot. Agencies, prepagos sites, apps are active but not really different than MDE BOG. Edge to Cartagena if you need beach.
    What kept Space afloat was that's where a wide range of chicas were and the gringos were going there to put on a show to attract the chicas in there which was highly unnecessary but some people can't leave old habits at home. Space was being killed off for a while now as most of the hip hop crowd went over to Delirium and the chicas followed because that's who was throwing money. Space got the leftovers who were rejected by Dolce and most of them 4 x T shirt wearing beer belly gringos wasn't trying to take on them stairs. Also didn't help that they didn't own the building and had to pay rent. Reopening as a hookah bar will only put it in competition with Monkey Bar where nobody goes because it's filled with the same type of women men got on planes to get away from.

    There was also talks about a strip club getting shut down outside the walls, I guess they didn't like that they had rooms on site for sex.

    The people of Cartagena wanted this, they wanted their city cleaned up but that means getting rid of certain elements that attracted certain types of people, let them all return to Sosua to get them turkeys walking around in yoga pants jajaja.

    I stopped doing the clubs a while back, happy I did, my experience became much better once I got away from certain type of people, especially the ones with volume control problems. Your right, first timers are fucked, not only are they going to get hit in the head for high prices in dollars they have a more limited selection and lost the ability to walk into a club and see a bunch of chicas at once and pick what fits their budget. It's also going to effect those mongers who never maintained communication with past chicas and always believed a new one is right around the corner or they want a new one every night. The ones who have a stable full or connections to friends of friends don't need to worry about 3 clubs, a clocktower and an annoying beach. Specifically making an instagram to keep in touch with all chicas I've come across for the last 5 years was the best thing I've ever done.

    I can't wait to see what's it's going to look like once summer hits, let's see how long this new Mayor and the Medellin Mayor can keep this up.

  12. #14148

    Space closure

    Turns out Space is closed for good. To be replaced by generic hookah bar. As all the news would need boots on the ground for if it's still a working girl bar. Imo, if it's a first timer I wouldn't go to Cartagena as I felt Clocktower / Walled City clubs was such an easy, relatively safe, and efficient spot for beginners.

    For the Spanish proficient, vets, guys who stay 10+ days then the long game works in your favor. But it's no long a good plug & play spot. Agencies, prepagos sites, apps are active but not really different than MDE BOG. Edge to Cartagena if you need beach.

  13. #14147
    Quote Originally Posted by Nypher  [View Original Post]
    This is why anyone coming into the forums, discord groups, WhatsApp groups and Facebook groups asking for 8's, 9's, and 10's usually gets ignored and when I ask them for clarification on what that number pertains to them to help them find what they are looking for by asking simple questions "if they like them big / slim, light / dark, older / younger, kids / no kids, natural / fake tits and or ass, tall / short, etc" they usually either don't respond or respond in the most vague way possible but they are still looking for this 8, 9, 10 that only they find attractive.

    Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder but I would take his fly out chica over the 60 mil Night Fury you posted (toothless), or that cute one in the back with the questionable gender.

    Can you take one for the team and find out if they are packing huevos down there? Jajaja.
    Jajajajaja that last part literally made me laugh out loud LOL. I'm currently in Pereira with no plans of going to Cartagena so probably not going to happen bro.

    If they're back in Medellin when I get back next time then I will investigate and report back LOL.

  14. #14146

    Best place in Columbia

    I'm planning a visit to Cartagena. Is it worth a trip to Medellin while I'm visiting the beaches and mongering. What is best mongering city in Columbia?

  15. #14145
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    She doesn't look any better than the girls in the 3 pics I posted last week.
    This is why anyone coming into the forums, discord groups, WhatsApp groups and Facebook groups asking for 8's, 9's, and 10's usually gets ignored and when I ask them for clarification on what that number pertains to them to help them find what they are looking for by asking simple questions "if they like them big / slim, light / dark, older / younger, kids / no kids, natural / fake tits and or ass, tall / short, etc" they usually either don't respond or respond in the most vague way possible but they are still looking for this 8, 9, 10 that only they find attractive.

    Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder but I would take his fly out chica over the 60 mil Night Fury you posted (toothless), or that cute one in the back with the questionable gender.

    Can you take one for the team and find out if they are packing huevos down there? Jajaja.

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