Cartagena Reports

[Mojo Bandit]

Hello folks new here,

Glad to be a part of the community. I am traveling to Cartagena in two weeks. I was supposed to be going with a friend who cancelled. I plan to still go. It will be my first time to Colombia, and my Spanish is very meager at best. I have traveled to the Dominican Republic extensively however so I am not new to traveling. It has crossed my mind to scrap my trip being that I will be solo. My question is, should I be OK doing this trip, will there be expats down there I could possibly link up with? Thanks to everyone who reads this!

S.

You are not going to have a perfect trip compared to seasoned guys or guys that speak Spanish, but you are going to have a fantastic time all the same. I hope you have girl-friendly apartment or hotel lined up. Otherwise you are going to be doing the deed in short time hotels. THe main three things you should have gotten from this forum are LDV, ClockTower, Hollywood Beach. Like I said earlier there is a map in the thread called "Cartagena Lists". Go to the top of this thread and the first thing you see in the white / greyish part is the website tree that looks like this with arrows instead of dashes: Forum -South America -Colombia -Cartagena -Reports, then click on "Colombia" this will get you to a list of threads. You want to scroll down and find "Cartagena Lists". Click on that and scroll down to where you see a Post by WorldTraveler69 on the date and time 04-11-17 12:57, this is the map and list that WorldTraver69 painstakingly made so that newbies like you could find and get some good chica putane! Thank you WorldTraveler69!

The "Clock Tower" Is called "Plaza del Reloj" on the outside where the taxis pick up and drop off so write that down. It is called "Plaza de LOS Coches" on the outside. Write these down and the address to your apartment / hotel so you can hand them to the Taxi drivers. LDV and Space are a short walk from here. From the plaza if you walk in under the clock look to your right there is a street that runs dead west or the heading virtually the same direction you are when you come in iot is Calle 34 and the sign will have an white arrow and say "Calle de Portocarrero", follow that arrow and go down to the next street and make a right, follow that for a longer distance until you cross another street and start looking for a sign that says "Dolce Vita". Unless they have changed it, it's hanging sign, round and brown and about the size of a smal car wheel.

Most importantly, I fee, l is to learn how to say the Numbers for when you are negotiating with the Chicas, while most times you are going to be paying 150,000 pesos to 200,000 pesos, my advice is to learn how to say the numbers in increments of 50,000 up to 500,000. Always make sure they are talking "pesos", always say your price followed by "pesos". There was a US Secret Service agent who threw away his career because he didn't clarify this point! Some prima donna is going to be delusional enough to think you are going to pay her in dollars, my very first experience in LDV a girl quoted me $350 (think 1. 2 million pesos) an hour! I said "odios" and got a tremendous service from a just as good looking woman for 17500 pesos, do not write the figures down, they use commas where we use decimals and I still do not understand their number system.

Have a good decent smart phone so you can use google translator and google maps. If by chance you have an android phone and use Chrome browser on a laptop or desk top you can bookmark that map and bring it up in chrome on your phone. If you try to speak spanish it is fine to speak in the "familiar: with chicas but not with anyone else. I also do not wear shorts except to the beach, cause you will scream "gringo tourist".

If you have not booked an apartment go to the thread under Colombia where I directed you to find "Cartagena Lists" and look under "Cartagena Hotels and Rental Apartments".

[Mojo Bandit]

Hello folks new here,

Glad to be a part of the community. I am traveling to Cartagena in two weeks. I was supposed to be going with a friend who cancelled. I plan to still go. It will be my first time to Colombia, and my Spanish is very meager at best. I have traveled to the Dominican Republic extensively however so I am not new to traveling. It has crossed my mind to scrap my trip being that I will be solo. My question is, should I be OK doing this trip, will there be expats down there I could possibly link up with? Thanks to everyone who reads this!

I always fly solo. Google maps and Google translator are your best friends! Learn the numbers, learn how to say 150 mil, or carry it on a piece of paper if you have to. Study these boards and you can learn other phrases. Go to the map in Cartagena lists, scroll til you find it. Cartagena is safe, and you'll be missing out if you don't go. I will post some more info for you late tonight when I have more time.

[Chala]

Hello folks new here,

Glad to be a part of the community. I am traveling to Cartagena in two weeks. I was supposed to be going with a friend who cancelled. I plan to still go. It will be my first time to Colombia, and my Spanish is very meager at best. I have traveled to the Dominican Republic extensively however so I am not new to traveling. It has crossed my mind to scrap my trip being that I will be solo. My question is, should I be OK doing this trip, will there be expats down there I could possibly link up with? Thanks to everyone who reads this!

[Allforrio]

I would certainly suggest you go here and look at World traveler 69's map.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...artagena-Lists

scroll down in Cartagena list until you see World Travel 69 post #491 with the map link.

I'm heading down to cartagena in the first week of October any chance we're going to overlap. I like to fly solo but maybe we can exchange notes, meet up for a drink

I'm going to be in CTG second week of Oct. 18 to Nov. 2nd.

[JjBee62]

There you go, nice touch. The World turns more smoothly on its axis because of decent folks like you, Mojo Bandit.

As far as LDV, be it the former location or the one in the historical city, in all the times I've been I've never been made aware of any minimums, etc. I will admit that it's most likely because I'm a recognizable patron who has had no problem buying bottles, etc. , on prior visits. While others may scoff at it, tipping the bar staff or the door man the equivalent of $2 - $3 can go a long way as well. The next time you are there, they clear off or out a table for you as soon as you walk-in, tell you which chicas are trouble / bad actors, basically keep a good look out for you, etc. , etc. Not every Colombian is out to scam the tourist; in fact, many are just decent folk living off a lot less than most of us could do without crying "uncle".

I have almost zero interest in visiting Cartagena. However, I read the thread, because good advice and information can be found anywhere. This is an excellent example.

If you frequent one area, or a few bars, make the people happy to see you. Treat them right. That doesn't mean always throwing money. Buy them a beer. Talk with them and listen. Tip. Most are good people, making the best of a harsh reality.

[Hilltopper]

I agree that LDV is a business and people should respect that, I do and I definitely do not mind spending money to keep a place open that provides the opportunities found there. To tell you how long it has been since I was there, the first time I went the generally understood rule was a girl was not supposed to leave with a guy until he had bought her a couple of drinks, later I was told there was a drink minimum of some untold peso amount. I do not drink very often. So I then would go in and start walking up to the hottest 10 or so chicas and ask what they liked to drink, and start buying drinks for them, taking the opportunity to also get a close up appraisal of the chicas. Its not like Thailand where you pay a bar fine, so the establishment needs to make a profit somehow. I certainly do not want them to go out of business and would like to see more of them.

There you go, nice touch. The World turns more smoothly on its axis because of decent folks like you, Mojo Bandit.

As far as LDV, be it the former location or the one in the historical city, in all the times I've been I've never been made aware of any minimums, etc. I will admit that it's most likely because I'm a recognizable patron who has had no problem buying bottles, etc. , on prior visits. While others may scoff at it, tipping the bar staff or the door man the equivalent of $2 - $3 can go a long way as well. The next time you are there, they clear off or out a table for you as soon as you walk-in, tell you which chicas are trouble / bad actors, basically keep a good look out for you, etc. , etc. Not every Colombian is out to scam the tourist; in fact, many are just decent folk living off a lot less than most of us could do without crying "uncle".

[Hilltopper]

Hey old Buddy are you still smoking your cigars on the beach?

I was in CTG last Feb. I liked the new LDV after making a fool of myself trying to make the taxi man take me to the old location. I guess that tells you how long it's been since I have set foot in CTG.

Anyway I had no problem getting a table with a beer in my hand that I bought at the bar. For me nothing beats having a hot Chica dancing with me to make me want to take her for a spin. I was really interested in dancing only so I picked two different girls, and danced with them for quite a while. Since I had no real desire to take them out I just slipped them 50 K,and said good by to them. They seemed surprised, but were not unhappy with me. Sure I could of walked out, and gave them nothing. Hey for around $15 bucks I was happy, and to me that's what I go to Latin America for. To be happy.

No more daily cigar. There's story behind the quitting, but I'll spare you the boring details!

Don't get to the beach as frequently either, but do always at least swing thru one day if for nothing more to say Hello, or to get a pedicure from Emily or Luz Marie.

You had fun and they were able to eat the next day from your show of appreciation-ain't nothing wrong with that!

Best wishes and happy travels to you, John Gault.

[Mojo Bandit]

I know it and other venues can change with the way the wind blows. I'd force the tight wads to buy as well......how the hell is a place supposed to pay the electric bill if all the guys are cheap charlies?

You're in a bar that makes money from selling alcohol......patronize the place by buying what they sell or go elsewhere. It ain't always about being a "taker". One meets some odd, finicky guys during his travels.

I agree that LDV is a business and people should respect that, I do and I definitely do not mind spending money to keep a place open that provides the opportunities found there. To tell you how long it has been since I was there, the first time I went the generally understood rule was a girl was not supposed to leave with a guy until he had bought her a couple of drinks, later I was told there was a drink minimum of some untold peso amount. I do not drink very often. So I then would go in and start walking up to the hottest 10 or so chicas and ask what they liked to drink, and start buying drinks for them, taking the opportunity to also get a close up appraisal of the chicas. Its not like Thailand where you pay a bar fine, so the establishment needs to make a profit somehow. I certainly do not want them to go out of business and would like to see more of them.

[YippieKayay]

Anyway I had no problem getting a table with a beer in my hand that I bought at the bar. For me nothing beats having a hot Chica dancing with me to make me want to take her for a spin. I was really interested in dancing only so I picked two different girls, and danced with them for quite a while. Since I had no real desire to take them out I just slipped them 50 K,and said good by to them. They seemed surprised, but were not unhappy with me. Sure I could of walked out, and gave them nothing. Hey for around $15 bucks I was happy, and to me that's what I go to Latin America for. To be happy.

Evidently a lot of guys are doing this. Dancing, drinking, tipping and leaving. Like a chica told me: "mucha fiesta no mucho trabajo. " They want 200 k (or more) after fucking you. During good times these chicas would get more than one customer and take them to a nearby hotel. That's beginning to change with so many Venezuelans around.

[John Gault]

I know it and other venues can change with the way the wind blows. Have reported such over the past 12 years of coming to Cartagena when guys want to say such and such night is no good or such and such month is no good. Have to roll my eyes often.

I went by myself, which is typically the case as I find most guys are too tight or too loud-mouthed or too-something, but I have no problem in buying a bottle and did so. If I don't want to drink alone or don't want to drink the entire bottle, I share the bottle with chicas (more often than not). Usually invite other dudes who are staring to have a shot, but damn if they aren't too tight and won't loosen up a little and try some guaro. Goodness, life is too short----sharing shots with Colombianas or Venezuelanas is a blast!!

Oh, and over the years I've heard guys report you have to buy a drink or you have to buy a bottle to get a table. Nonsense.......they only do that to guys who just want to come in there and benefit from the venue and not spend a dime. When they know you are a good guy who doesn't always come in there and not spend, you can have a table and not buy a bottle, etc. I'd force the tight wads to buy as well......how the hell is a place supposed to pay the electric bill if all the guys are cheap charlies?

You're in a bar that makes money from selling alcohol......patronize the place by buying what they sell or go elsewhere. It ain't always about being a "taker". One meets some odd, finicky guys during his travels.

Hey old Buddy are you still smoking your cigars on the beach?

I was in CTG last Feb. I liked the new LDV after making a fool of myself trying to make the taxi man take me to the old location. I guess that tells you how long it's been since I have set foot in CTG.

Anyway I had no problem getting a table with a beer in my hand that I bought at the bar. For me nothing beats having a hot Chica dancing with me to make me want to take her for a spin. I was really interested in dancing only so I picked two different girls, and danced with them for quite a while. Since I had no real desire to take them out I just slipped them 50 K,and said good by to them. They seemed surprised, but were not unhappy with me. Sure I could of walked out, and gave them nothing. Hey for around $15 bucks I was happy, and to me that's what I go to Latin America for. To be happy.

[Tomasb]

That reminds of a time in Medellin where I had met a rather attractive lady at that famous hooker bar — whose name escapes me at the moment— but it has some gorgeous looking hookers there. In fact, the bar only has hookers. This girl I met looked a bit like Gwen Paltrow though she had no idea who that was. I brought her over to my hotel in Parque Lleras late one evening and had a great time, so great that I invited her back a few nights later.

The second time time she showed up at my hotel wearing some kind of funky odd multi colored leggings up to just below her knees over a pair of tight blue jeans. After the deed, we went out for a bit of a stroll in Parque Lleras and I heard various locals sniggering at her outfit and a few making not so nice comments. They appeared to recognize her profession due to her lack of fashion sense. I was a bit embarrassed for her. I heard later from a mutual acquaintance that she got out of the biz, maybe due to that experience. Of course, this occurred in Parque Lleras, not exactly a ho free environment, so I can imagine what might have occurred in a normal type area.

I know someone is surprised to hear this, and can hardly understand it, but Colombians do not like to see prostitutes mixed with their "real life environment".

They do go with prostitutes, but in places that are very well separated from where they live their normal life with friends and family. There are "zonas de tolerancia", there are love motels (think about Santa Fe and the love hotels in Chapinero, Bogota), but all this is separated from where high stratum people lives, has business, goes out for having fun and a drink with their friends.

No way you can take a WG to an upper class hotel. The hotel would be immediately discredited, and all good regular guests would complain, if a prostitute enters the lobby. It does not matter how is she dressed: people understands who is a bitchy girlfriend and who is a girlfriendly bitchh.

Same for condos. If a Colombian family pays the rent of an apartment to spend holidays, they do not want to see sex tourists with girls. Period.

Once a Colombian told me this: "we too like to go with prostitutes, but what we do not understand is why foreigners like to take them out to dinner!" I nodded my agreement (of course I did not reveale that I did the same, some times regrettably).

[Hilltopper]

It changes night to night. I've seen it dead empty. I've been in there where you couldn't breathe properly at all due to the number of bodies. Last time was in June and they expected everyone at a table to order bottle service. This made it impossible for me since I'm alone and don't want to order an entire bottle.

The closing of Elektra means LDV just has more chicas in it. It's pretty much LDV and Space in the old city that are hooker joints. We need a third place to help move the bodies around.

I know it and other venues can change with the way the wind blows. Have reported such over the past 12 years of coming to Cartagena when guys want to say such and such night is no good or such and such month is no good. Have to roll my eyes often.

I went by myself, which is typically the case as I find most guys are too tight or too loud-mouthed or too-something, but I have no problem in buying a bottle and did so. If I don't want to drink alone or don't want to drink the entire bottle, I share the bottle with chicas (more often than not). Usually invite other dudes who are staring to have a shot, but damn if they aren't too tight and won't loosen up a little and try some guaro. Goodness, life is too short----sharing shots with Colombianas or Venezuelanas is a blast!!

Oh, and over the years I've heard guys report you have to buy a drink or you have to buy a bottle to get a table. Nonsense.......they only do that to guys who just want to come in there and benefit from the venue and not spend a dime. When they know you are a good guy who doesn't always come in there and not spend, you can have a table and not buy a bottle, etc. I'd force the tight wads to buy as well......how the hell is a place supposed to pay the electric bill if all the guys are cheap charlies?

You're in a bar that makes money from selling alcohol......patronize the place by buying what they sell or go elsewhere. It ain't always about being a "taker". One meets some odd, finicky guys during his travels.

[YippieKayay]

Just a quick note that I stopped-in LDV this past Monday evening. Lots of chicas, plenty of guys (which you need in order for the chicas to stay for the potential of a client); overall more chicas than dudes. Lots of dudes standing around acting like they are scared to spend pesos and blocking the view of guys like myself who don't have a problem grabbing a table and getting bottle service. Oh well, to each their own. I enjoyed myself and lucked into my selection being an absolute stellar performer who kept getting the Johnson revved back up for more!! So much fun when the chica wants and knows how to bring Johnson back to attention multiple times rather quickly for the over 55 crowd jajajaja!!

It changes night to night. I've seen it dead empty. I've been in there where you couldn't breathe properly at all due to the number of bodies. Last time was in June and they expected everyone at a table to order bottle service. This made it impossible for me since I'm alone and don't want to order an entire bottle.

The closing of Elektra means LDV just has more chicas in it. It's pretty much LDV and Space in the old city that are hooker joints. We need a third place to help move the bodies around.

[Hilltopper]

Just a quick note that I stopped-in LDV this past Monday evening. Lots of chicas, plenty of guys (which you need in order for the chicas to stay for the potential of a client); overall more chicas than dudes. Lots of dudes standing around acting like they are scared to spend pesos and blocking the view of guys like myself who don't have a problem grabbing a table and getting bottle service. Oh well, to each their own. I enjoyed myself and lucked into my selection being an absolute stellar performer who kept getting the Johnson revved back up for more!! So much fun when the chica wants and knows how to bring Johnson back to attention multiple times rather quickly for the over 55 crowd jajajaja!!

[Black Page]

I would like to set a few things straight.

Try Cuzco and Santisimo. Youl'll want to offer me a beer to thank me.