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06-17-23 02:48 #13498
Posts: 2009A open relationship can still be a committed relationship.
And since it was open both would be "fucking other people". Meanwhile, a more interesting question is if a relationship where the man is fucking other people is a real relationship. I say it is not. Unless the man is open about it. Because real relationships are not based on deception (IMO).
Originally Posted by Chicago85 [View Original Post]
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06-17-23 02:39 #13497
Posts: 387Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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06-17-23 01:44 #13496
Posts: 122I mean videos interviewing girls. Come on. It's just too much. No more discretion.
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06-17-23 01:22 #13495
Posts: 2009I am ok. You are ok!
Sorry you disagree with me. I understand your need to be right. Everyone who reads our exchanges can see that is the case. But if you need someone to tell you that you are right to feel better about yourself then you need to talk to one of the girls you are in a real relationship with and ask for that affirmation from her. Because you will not get it in anyplace in this entire forum as you continue to challenge my personal views because you disagree with them.
My degree in Sociology from one the top ten departments in the discipline and allows me to speak with authority on the subject. In my opinion, prostitution is what the society says it is. This is not a point of fact. It is a point of opinion. Reasoned opinion but opinion none the less. I know I am not going to open your mind on the subject because like many people here who cannot accept that others do not agree with them I am just putting my ideas out there. Disagreement just to be disagreeable is not my game. My game is the intellectual sharing of ideas. And I believe what I write. Call me stupid or and idiot if you like. Name calling says more about the person doing the name calling.
Make a deal to have sex for life and it is called marriage. Make a deal to have sex for 1 hour and it is called prostitution. But you do not buy your prostitute a house, car, clothes, food and other items of life that wind up costing much more than paying the hourly fee for a prostitute. So in my mind marriage looks a lot like having your prostitute on retainer for life. And if you think that is not in the minds of girl the world over then you should get out and experience the world a little more. No blessings needed. I there was such thing as true love there would not me multiple marriages and divorce. Hell, people even move one after their spouse dies. Tell me why some of the richest girls in the entire world a rich because they divorced a rich husband. Who actually made that money? And you are going to tell me that "real relationships are not based on money"?
The deal that is made between two people is a bright line issue only to the individuals making the deal. I don't know how you can define a relationship that is not based on money because in a shared money relationship stop putting in your half and sit on your ass all day while your wife works her ass off. And see how long that lasts? Money is a core issue in relationships. It is estimated (depending upon who you want to believe) that 20 - 40% of marriages end in divorce over financial issues. A relationship may not be based on money. But is sure looks to be pretty important in a relationship for sure. Personally I don't believe you can separate the issues.
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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06-17-23 00:58 #13494
Posts: 2009Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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06-17-23 00:03 #13493
Posts: 35Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
There are 50 shades of grey on this. I have had women I met as prostitutes who became friends, either while they still worked or after they worked. One moved in with me, and one I travel with regularly off the clock. Sometimes we fucked for money, sometimes we fucked for no money, sometimes we didn't fuck and I gave them money anyway, and sometimes we didn't fuck and I didn't give them money. If you need to classify other people, if they still have sex with other people for money they are prostitutes; if they don't anymore they are former prostitutes. That is a job they have (or had) and it doesn't mean they are somehow disqualified from having "real" relationships. I don't feel any need to categorize or classify my relationships (yes, they are relationships), and if anyone else wants to offer their totally uninformed opinion on my relationships I will have a good laugh.
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06-16-23 20:32 #13492
Posts: 639Originally Posted by Rzrfl69 [View Original Post]
But to sum it up. I wouldn't take face value of 1 local how things are there, I got to multiple sources. For example, I get most of my information from the chicas who work the street and the clubs so I always know what's going on in and around Dolce, Delirium and Space, they will let me know up front the new scams, places to stay away from after certain times, clubs that pulls bait and switch, girls to stay away from, etc.
If you don't have those type of boots on the ground sources then social media is a good alternative.
I've put some reports before of the problems at the beaches, gringos being followed from the airport and robbed at gunpoint, People getting robbed in Getsemani as somehow that area is seeing an increased 2 men on a Motocycle sighting. I guessing the cops no longer have that roadblock preventing them from entering Manga and using the bridge to get over to Getsemani.
Another place to check is Instagram and use it as a resource to be aware of when you see something you can connect the dots and act accordingly rather than get caught off guard.
There are more on Minuto30.
Since you have not been there in over a year, here's a few to keep you aware:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtbvO4bOlyY/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CryaKFFgfwt/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CsUrfdWA-E5/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CsaITG_A8Xp/
Might not be open:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtILJsIAjuP/
As always, be cautious, stay safe, and make it home with more good stories than bad ones.
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06-16-23 19:07 #13491
Posts: 2009We are all men up in here. Do not lie to yourself or us!
Thank your for your warm welcome to the community.
Stop being passive aggressive Rzrfl69 and speak to me directly like real man. That is a request not a demand. And everyone who reads my posts needs to do so with their big boy panties on. I do not argue, attack or call names (like many others do). I discuss and share my thoughts. You don't like my thoughts, put me on ignore.
Originally Posted by Rzrfl69 [View Original Post]
Exactly what issue am I trying to make?
Originally Posted by Rzrfl69 [View Original Post]
Heads up for you Bro. I don't know where you are from. But for he last ten years I have lived in the Dominican Republic. I do not come from sex prison in the DisUnited States of America. I come from a land where young pussy is plentiful and available. But in case you didn't get the memo I have had a passport since got my first job for the government of my country of origin. And it was Diplomatic Passport. The color at that time was red. Pretty heady stuff for young man in his early 20's.
I share this not to brag but to give perspective to you young boys. Anyone with a passport has always been free to travel the world in order to go where they are treated best. Clearly the individuals from the (secret unnamed groups) are doing this after having been smart enough to get their passports, earn enough money to be able to buy a plane ticket to travel to another country, along with paying for the lodging, food and entertainment that they wish.
Originally Posted by Rzrfl69 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Rzrfl69 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Rzrfl69 [View Original Post]
How does how another man spends his money have any affect on you?
Originally Posted by Rzrfl69 [View Original Post]
What a girl expects has absolutely no affect on me. I am going to pay what I am going to pay. And I am going to give what I am going to give. It is a private transaction. And my experience and Spanish speaking ability allow me to tell a girl to to get your money from someone else. I am not paying anymore than I want to pay. The ability to say no and be comfortable with yourself is a very powerful skill. Those who seek more inner power need to master it. We all need to be men and hold frame. And not be moved by what others are doing. There are too many girls out there who would like to just have chance to get by this month. Get out of the tourist areas where these (secret, unnamed) groups operate and into the real world and community that you are visiting. You do speak Spanish, right?
Originally Posted by Rzrfl69 [View Original Post]
My suggestion is for individuals who are not getting what they want out of life to spend some time doing some self examination and self improvement. Having a little backbone never hurt any man. And they might find their lives dramatically improved if they develop themselves instead of just complaining about others.
Originally Posted by Rzrfl69 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Rzrfl69 [View Original Post]
I see jealousy. And I don't understand why. Those with passports and knowledge, who don't like what others who also have passports and enough money to use them, can just use their passports again to travel to a different location. Or they can simply goto the establishments where the individuals of the (secret unnamed) groups that behave in a way that they don't approve off are not going. Worrying about what another man is doing with his dick or money is a violation of Man Law 101 in my opinion and is some mother fuckin, punk * ass girly man shit.
Instead of focusing on others, focus on yourself. Because if you can take care of yourself you will always be happy. You cannot control what others do. After you arrive in a spot and you find the individuals in that spot to no longer be to your liking, move on. You are not promised the experience your are seeking. Real men get it by seeking it out for themselves until they find it.
1,000,000 million people live in Cartagena. And individuals cannot find a place in the entire city where they are comfortable? Or is it that they simply don't feel that others (others in these secret unnamed groups) should have same right to exercise their ability to travel and party in the places that they do?
I keep it real!
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06-16-23 17:44 #13490
Posts: 15942Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]
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06-16-23 16:44 #13489
Posts: 5663Mongering vs Real Relationship
No need for arguing over a matter that is so simple and which the 'arguers' are actually on the same page. P4P is a relationship that is based entirely on money. A 'real' relationship is not based entirely on money, both parties have made a commitment to each other. There are usually several factors that could lead to such a commitment being made and the financial resources of one or other of the parties may be one such factor. Other factors could be looks, background, interests, etc.
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06-16-23 16:29 #13488
Posts: 122We all know what groups, your just trying to make an issue in the community.
Yes it's a huge difference to people going somewhere doing things they couldn't normally afford. To people going there to do things that are legal and accepted in that society.
Massive difference in fact.
Those people don't know how to act. Like they just hit the lottery. Yet then go back home to their tiny existence.
And how does it raise prices? Because girls see these idiots throwing money around and expect that for them. How do you not understand that?
Oh this moron is throwing away $1 bills. He and his friends can afford to give me a lot more if they act like that.
So yes. This immaturity, ignorance, or just plain stupidity is ruining this scene almost everywhere.
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06-16-23 16:20 #13487
Posts: 15942Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]
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06-16-23 06:12 #13486
Posts: 2009All real relationships involve money
I will just speak for myself. All my real relationships have involved money. Because money is life. And by a real relationship I mean emotional connection. That I care about the person beyond just a sexual interest. Now if you are just fucking you can certainly get away with just giving her your dick and walking away. If that is all I want to do, unless it is a hook up I just prefer to pay and keep things clear.
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
I have been married. Twice. And they were real relationships. And they involved money. And can tell you one thing, in my second marriage the sex stopped. But the money kept flowing (until the divorce). I have had plenty of real relationships and they all involve money. Why stop the money if the relationship is good? If I enjoy spending time with a girl I am going to take her out and spend money on her. In a real relationships.
You are big on the definition of what prostitution is. But I think you don't really understand the meaning. Let me clarify it for you:
prostitution, the practice of engaging in relatively indiscriminate sexual activity, in general with someone who is not a spouse or a friend, in exchange for immediate payment in money or other valuables.
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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06-16-23 01:47 #13485
Posts: 35Originally Posted by Nypher [View Original Post]
I have found and read a couple of the local review boards and am making a contact list. Will probably set up one visit in advance and see how it goes. I am amenable to sticking with one girl to show me around if the price and the girl are right but I will keep at least one night to hunt the clock tower.
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06-16-23 01:47 #13484
Posts: 2009What groups? What show?
Originally Posted by Rzrfl69 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Rzrfl69 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Rzrfl69 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Rzrfl69 [View Original Post]