Cartagena Reports

[LocoGringo]

I call bullshit. That chica is not a "model", looks more like a typical La Dolce Ho that gets 150-300 depending on how weak the buyer is. From the beach. 120-150, 000. Now you will see her in Playboy and she will get her little bit of fame. Cartagena is probably overrun by idiot gringoes that will either try to get free pussy based on how pretty they are to coked up rich boys that like to spend mucho $ to impress the girls. Next you will see Tony on the front page sayin "yu no trusta me, me frieeen". I am going back today (live there) , probably will head to Cali, too much junkie drama in Cartagena. 7-8 tyears ago I saw some REAL models in Bogota, asking price then was 1, 000, 000 and up. No, didn't do it, all were silicaned, not what I like.

[Professor 1]

I know nothing about Colombia, only monger in Europe, CR, DR. Is this 800 dollar claim legit? Do some girls there ask for that or get that. I have never heard of such thing from any monger I have ever met. Any place I have been they wouldn't even think it much less say it? This has got to be total BS! Right?

A DR chica in Juan Dolio asked US$300 (in English) when I was talking to some local boys. I responded in Spanish that the going rate in Juan Dolio is 500 pesos. I added that I live on the North Coast. She quickly apologized for mistaking me for a tourist. LOL. I can see a chica asking US$800 from the right North American tourist flashing $$$. She might get US$500.

[Questner]

Couple of words on pricing. This March from my experience: ST 50K to 100K, TLN 100K to 150K.

Takeout from where you take girls out is 150K. If you don't ask or negotiate then girls charge 200K per hour.

What happened is totally insane and is not about money.

[HelpRules]

How much would you guys pay for this girl at the 4 minute mark. Finest colombian all time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su4Aq0X_zT0

[Hillbilly69]

My wingman last September met up with a ISIS favorite he has been with on previous trips and was 150k pesos for short time in 2009-10. He hooked up with her in apartment thinking he would spend the week with her. She wanted 4 or 500 dollars per day plus expenses, needless to say he sent her back to ISIS. She went hard core on him. No idea who is paying this much other than the dumb gringo I met who paid the fat chic 400 dollars for sex and cock blocked me from big foot.

[Otiers]

I have seen much better and classier looking women available for much less than the $800. 00 quoted. Just me thinking, but it might be possible the media heard 800, but perhaps it was 800K instead of dollars. I have been to Cartagena and Bogota many times and the girls at Ottos, Lalos and La Mansion are very top notch and they could top out at around 500K with agreement around 350K. Just a thought, it would not be the first time the media exaggerated to make the story even more sensational.

I just got back before the SS arrived in town and I am ready to head back. Friends really want to hear my adventures about Cartagena and I have to tell them $800 would price me out of the market and I have yet run into anybody trying to set me up with a 14 year old. I counter back to them by asking hey I heard you went to Vegas, or LA, or Chicago, New York, Atlanta, Miami. There are many hookers and high priced girls in those cities and everyone knows it."How did you score with them, any pictures?" How much, etc. Point being, it happens all over the world, but perception is 100% reality to many.

I can keep my grin at work and think about the City of Cartagena and remember those that I have paid and those that I had for free (thanks to my wife). It gets me through the week.

[Hillbilly69]

Yesterday, the New York Times interviewed one of the Colombian escorts whose services were paid for by a Secret Service agent during last week's Summit of the Americas in Cartagena. She felt that she'the been portrayed as a typical streetwalking prostitute, and she insisted that her own approach to the oldest profession is much more up to date:

'It's the same, but it's different, ' she said, indicating that she is much more selective about her clients and charges much more than a streetwalker. 'It's like when you buy a fine rum or a BlackBerry or an iPhone. They have a different price. '

In Colombia, where I'm from, these escorts are called prepagos, or 'prepaid women, ' a phenomenon that exploded in Colombia in the late '90s. After inciting some mild outrage, the term and the profession quickly infiltrated popular culture. The popular perception in Colombia is that prepagos don't do it out of necessity; the escort involved with an agent was charging about $800 for the night—or $1. 6 million pesos, an especially large sum in Colombia.

Many of these escorts have professional websites and popular Twitter accounts. They take credit cards and offer free delivery. Often they come from affluent families and have been to college, which they market as a prized and rare asset. One of the websites, Las Universitarias, or 'College Girls' (that link is not safe for work, in case you had any doubt) , whose slogan is 'beauty and culture in bed, ' offers the option to translate the site into English. These services are offered mostly in larger cities like Bogotá, Cali, and Medellíand; prostitution in more remote areas is much more driven by displacement due to poverty or violence. (Colombia has the second largest population of internally displaced people in the world, behind Sudan.)

The infrastructure behind the prepago industry is massive and problematic, with ties to both corporate and drug money. Telenovelas about escorts and drug lords, like Sin Tetas No Hay Paraíso (No Heaven Without Tits) , have proliferated in Colombia in recent years, gathering huge audiences. Drugs are Colombia's curse, and beauty, especially feminine beauty, is an obsession in Colombian culture—even more so than it is in the United States. Colombia is known to be a plastic surgery haven, where children as young as 14 get breast implants. Miss Universe and Miss Colombia are the most watched shows on TV year-round; soccer matches are their only real competition. It is not uncommon for finalists of the Miss Colombia pageant to go straight into jobs as newscasters.

Prepagos have become enormously popular in Colombia, and there is little public shame in the country about what they do. Women from all socioeconomic backgrounds prostitute themselves for a wide range of reasons, which are constantly changing. It's in this context that high-paid escorts, flaunting their wares on professional websites and on Twitter, thrive.

[Kelso1]

You and MHL are in " legend" status", I'm just in " veteran status". Give me another ten years and I will catch up, amigo.

With close to 1500 posts, and your own forum in the DR you my friend are already a legend.

I hope guys like you don't disapear like so many other past legends.

After all someone has to help us navigate the tricky Monger waters.

[Kelso1]

It took me a while to learn my lesson, but after being over charged when I asked for my final bar bill I learned to pay for each round right away. I remember one time in one of the higher end bars (Isis) getting a bill for lady drinks that the guys I was with did not order. Yes they were talking to a few girls, but

I know they did not OK any drink orders. Two of the 3 guys I was with were young, and of good size so it was not hard to walk away from the bouncer who tried to Bogart us into being ripped off.

As far as the SS ruining CTG to me that place is overpriced anyway so let them keep it for people like the clueless SS goons.

[John]

Again this board keeps on going about prices. Money is always a relative term my friend. As I have always believed.

Do you think people who pay 3 times more money for a little bigger seat in an airline to fly first class are all insane. After all the airline gets you to the same location your flight time is many times no more then 5 hours. So why pay $1, 000 for a flight when you can pay only $250 for it and still get to the same location in the same 5 hour time. In some instances people are willing and able to pay $5, 000 for a first class airline ticket instead of paying like $1, 500 for flight flying economy.

My friend I am sure you will not call all those people insane for paying for a little extra comfort.

Money is a relative term and to each his own.

I will not post photos of the girls on this board but for those of you who honestly feel like they are willing and able to spend 200 mil for like 2 to 3 hour session and 400 mil to 500 mil for all night you can send me a PM and I will send the photos to you.

By the way the photos of the girl posted who was with the SS agent, I am willing to pay that quality girl no more then 150 mil for 2 hours and 300 mil for all night just for your reference.

Best Regards,

John.

Thanks for the Response very interesting. WOW! I am shocked, even these prices you mentioned are insane. I had no idea the prices were that high in Colombia. Believe me I am not knocking you but I wouldn't be traveling for those prices, yes they maybe good looking but there comes a point for me where I just feel like I am getting ripped off and wouldn't be able to enjoy it. I mean hell if I went around offering random hot girls in the us that were working part time or college students 250-300 I would find takers.

[Hillbilly69]

I know nothing about Colombia, only monger in Europe, CR, DR. Is this 800 dollar claim legit? Do some girls there ask for that or get that. I have never heard of such thing from any monger I have ever met. Any place I have been they wouldn't even think it much less say it? This has got to be total BS! Right?

Not bullshit if she is from private agency. Conflicting stories about where she works and what the bill was but I am thinking Escort agency. Pleyclub doesn't have 21 girls working there at least to my knowledge and if they did they would have cleaned the place out and the girl wouldn't have cost that much, and as John said the high end girls in Cartagena are 250 US per night for 9s and 10s, the LDV girls are the B team for the most part with an occasional 9 or 10.

[Macgoo]

Someone asked to see the pictures. Here is the one, we are told, at the center of it all. To each his own, but I am not impressed.

[Hillbilly69]

As I see this scandal in the headlines in both gringo and latino media, I can't help but think of all the chicas who have told their families in the past that they've gone to Cartagena to work as waitresses or in a hotel, club, etc. Surely somewhere in Colombia, some suspicions have been raised. And any chica thinking of going to CTG now maybe thinking twice about it, or will have to be even more creative with the little white lies.

OTOH, I've met a lot of chicas who said that their families already know. I wonder about the fate of Pleyclub or LDV in some moralistic backlash. However, the urge for $ is so great in CO, and the urge for cX0Cha as well, that it'll probably be business as usual.

I've been there so many times I've actually made some nice connections with a few normal locals, but I'm waiting a long time before I go back. And I feel bad for the good people of CTG now that it has now become synonymous with mongering.

Like I said before this is not the first generation of Hookahs in Cartagena, odds are their mothers hooked there. They tell their families they are going on "Vacation" then go there to make money. My 2nd trip to Medellin in 1999 a girl's mother told me to visit Cartagena, I said what? Travel Planet says beaches suck etc. She said," Oh you would like it!" with a shit ass grin on her face, I had no idea what she was talking about at the time, Medellin was insane then no need to go to Cartagena. Now that I look back I wish I would have went.

You guys don't quite understand why the Colombians wanted to bust them, the US government looks down their noses as the moral posted child but yet all the drugs go there. Then the Colombians tell the USA to quit snorting and smoking the stuff and we wouldn't have a problem here. Then this happens with Hookahs! Hilarious. The Goody goodies got busted. Now it seems they found drugs in a guys room the lid is ready to blow off.

Conflicting stories about where the girl came from, I doubt the girl works ar Pleyclub typically only 5-7s there, taxi driver says she was private escort, in time one of you will come up with the agency name.

[Spicy Dreams]

I see several people are worrying about what kind of backlash there might be in Colombia against hookers and brothels. Haha, don't worry, in Latin America it's ALWAYS going to be business as usual. It's part of the culture.

But looking at the photos of the $800 chica in question. She definitely does not look top shelf. Mid level material with fake boobs, a thick body, and coarse features. Either she was trying to take advantage of a guy too drunk to use common sense and thinking with the little head, or she thought this gringo was Daddy Warbucks and $80 or $800 was all the same to him.

[Gonzo]

As I see this scandal in the headlines in both gringo and latino media, I can't help but think of all the chicas who have told their families in the past that they've gone to Cartagena to work as waitresses or in a hotel, club, etc. Surely somewhere in Colombia, some suspicions have been raised. And any chica thinking of going to CTG now maybe thinking twice about it, or will have to be even more creative with the little white lies.

OTOH, I've met a lot of chicas who said that their families already know. I wonder about the fate of Pleyclub or LDV in some moralistic backlash. However, the urge for $ is so great in CO, and the urge for cX0Cha as well, that it'll probably be business as usual.

I've been there so many times I've actually made some nice connections with a few normal locals, but I'm waiting a long time before I go back. And I feel bad for the good people of CTG now that it has now become synonymous with mongering.