Cartagena Reports

[Pescador Loco]

Hey LL,

Sorry to hear about the Isabella experince. If it is any consolation last year someone hacked my email and sent out a virus to all my contacts. Isabella got it and insisted on trying to open the video attachement and it fried her laptop! Given her supposed tech skills I was surprised she fell for it but very few have anti-virus software in Colombia. Never saw her in person but pics are super hot and as reported she is very articulate on phone. She might show up at LDV, but I have never seen her there and my impression is that she is more a VIP prepago for rich Colombians. LDV would be slumming for her. Not surprised she sucked in the sack, but understand why you wanted to take her out.

Non-pro scene in Colombia is, and has been for awhile, very competitive. Dudes are now coming from as far away as Norway, Italy, Switzerland to meet CC girls. NPs can still be bagged but it is getting tougher and tougher.

Your right she is a pro and a shitty piece of ass, she is alot about being treated like a princess. (but she's a working girl so who needs a working girl who wants to be a princes.

I think she is use to desperate guys who only want a trophy looking girl on there arm.

She is all about the money cost me 250, 000 colombian for short time with her because after we did the deed she all of a sudden had an emergency and had to leave.

(also I paid for dinner and her taxis both ways)

No worries though because I took a Vitamin V after she left and went direct to LDV and got a young 21 year old hottie from Medilin who was like an instant girlfriend and was 150, 000 colombian for 3 hours.

Isabella is great at promoting herself in advance, but is like a dead fish in the sack.

She is now 29 and her looks will fade and her shitty attitude will probably stay with her a lifetime.

Also update on LDV (way more ladies there than men on the 3 nights I was there) gets going real strong around midnight.

Girls were quoting 150, 000 short time and 300, 000 TLN great deal in my opinion based on what US prices are for similar quality of chickas.

Also many desperate people now in Cartagena and many will try to rip you off and follow you many blocks and try to intimidate you, so just keep walking and say No Thanks.

Also always ask the price of everything because if you don't they will cheat you

[LuckyEddie]

Hey LE it is refreshing to see a guy throw out some real valuable info out there. If I was seeking Non Pro's (God forbid) I would take your advice with gusto. Then if I ever met up with you I'd buy you a beer as your reward. Of course me being a budget Monger it would have to be in Mayorista. I don't know if you slum or not but that is my feel good area.

Non pros are a waste of time a headache and end up costing more in money and lost time when you could have been getting laid. The internet is a great way for busy professionals in the first world to meet potential non pros (in the US the dating websites are 99% non pro). But some guys need to learn the hardway.

These Colombianas will post profiles saying how they are looking for marriage and post good intentions because the computer is shared in the house and her family is looking over her shoulder and see her profile. So many of them seem very legit as if she is looking for a real long term relationship. But she is really looking for customers.

Unfortunately the internet girls you meet, if pros, can be higher priced than if you just go to the casa / strip clubs etc. And if they are not they are extremely hit or miss. There was a guy here who met Sair on a website, invited her to his hostal, spent over 3 hours together, playng pool and hanging out and then came back here to ISG asking everyone if we thought she was a pro or not.

Although he didn't spend a great dela of cash who wants to go through that process of wasting time and trying to figure out what you need to do to nail this girl on your 10 day vacation? Why deal with that?

Mr Gault no need to buy me a beer as I don't drink. Maybe a glass of milk.

[John Gault]

I posted this a while back. Again:

How to tell if she is a pro on the websites.

Most of the girls are so before you even go through all this if you are really looking for a nice girl, non pro on one of these sites the cards are totally stacked against you. Don't even bother. But if you must.

What to do:

Pay the extra money and put up a 2nd profile with photos of a good looking rugged guy (no obvious model shots) who is in your age range by a coupla years.

Find the targeted girl with this fake profile and get to chatting.

Be nice in the beginning (but not sickeningly sweet) tell her what you do and that you are a nice guy and all that other happy horseshit.

If she senses you are one of these hearts and flower spineless wimps she wil play the non pro hoping to get a WU or even a rich hubby.

"I am staying in Pobaldo and am in need of a tour guide"

"You are in class during the day? Can you be my tourguide after class in the evening? What time do you need to be home?"

"Would you be able to stay at my hotel with me?"

"I am asking because I am also looking for a novia while I am there on vacation. I can help you financially (te ayudaré con dinero)"

"si quedas conmigo en mi habitacion como novia te ayudaré con dinero"

Word it like that as it is in good taste.

This is where the money negotiation will start. She may even play dumb or ask if she is to have sex with you. If that is what you are asking. As honestly you have not really spelled that out except with the "novia" part, which is somewhat vague. Could just mean hugging and kissing.

If you really want to know if she is a pro offer a reasonable amt of money not 10K as she will say "NO" and you won't know if she is a non pro or a higher priced pro. Say 2 millones and just about any woman will say yes or she will think you are full of it, a clown who will never pay that high an ammount. She will close the chat window as you will have scared her off.

If she is going to meet you after her class in the 7-8PM range and is agreeing to being your novia while you are here in the country throw out 200K-250K for the night. Which is on the high end or 150-200K if just for a few hours.

Just about 9 out of 10 girls on these sites take it. Some will state they never did this before. I also believe the one that does not take you up on your offer still has a 50/50 chance of still being a pro but is smart enough to think that you could be her boyfriend or neighbor behind a fake profile. She will STILL continue the conversation even after you somewhat insulted her. Just because she does not want to lose a potential customer and when you are together and she knows you are a real guy then the negotiation will start.

There are 3 mayorista street walkers on one of these sites. I can only guess what they charge the internet gringos. In Mayorista they are 30K.

Either way if she entertains the conversation after you offer to help her with money you know she is 100% a pro.

Log on with your real profile and scratch her from your list.

Hey LE it is refreshing to see a guy throw out some real valuable info out there. If I was seeking Non Pro's (God forbid) I would take your advice with gusto. Then if I ever met up with you I'd buy you a beer as your reward. Of course me being a budget Monger it would have to be in Mayorista. I don't know if you slum or not but that is my feel good area.

[LuckyEddie]

Your right she is a pro and a shitty piece of ass, she is alot about being treated like a princess. (but she's a working girl so who needs a working girl who wants to be a princess)

I think she is use to desperate guys who only want a trophy looking girl on there arm.

She is all about the money cost me 250, 000 colombian for short time with her because after we did the deed she all of a sudden had an emergency and had to leave.

(also I paid for dinner and her taxis both ways)

No worries though because I took a Vitamin V after she left and went direct to LDV and got a young 21 year old hottie from Medilin who was like an instant girlfriend and was 150, 000 colombian for 3 hours.

Isabella is great at promoting herself in advance, but is like a dead fish in the sack.

She is now 29 and her looks will fade and her shitty attitude will probably stay with her a lifetime.

Also update on LDV (way more ladies there than men on the 3 nights I was there) gets going real strong around midnight.

Girls were quoting 150, 000 short time and 300, 000 TLN great deal in my opinion based on what US prices are for similar quality of chickas.

Also many desperate people now in Cartagena and many will try to rip you off and follow you many blocks and try to intimidate you, so just keep walking and say No Thanks.

Also always ask the price of everything because if you don't they will cheat you

I posted this a while back. Again:

How to tell if she is a pro on the websites.

Most of the girls are so before you even go through all this if you are really looking for a nice girl, non pro on one of these sites the cards are totally stacked against you. Don't even bother. But if you must.

What to do:

Pay the extra money and put up a 2nd profile with photos of a good looking rugged guy (no obvious model shots) who is in your age range by a coupla years.

Find the targeted girl with this fake profile and get to chatting.

Be nice in the beginning (but not sickeningly sweet) tell her what you do and that you are a nice guy and all that other happy horseshit.

If she senses you are one of these hearts and flower spineless wimps she wil play the non pro hoping to get a WU or even a rich hubby.

"I am staying in Pobaldo and am in need of a tour guide"

"You are in class during the day? Can you be my tourguide after class in the evening? What time do you need to be home?"

"Would you be able to stay at my hotel with me?"

"I am asking because I am also looking for a novia while I am there on vacation. I can help you financially (te ayudaré con dinero)"

"si quedas conmigo en mi habitacion como novia te ayudaré con dinero"

Word it like that as it is in good taste.

This is where the money negotiation will start. She may even play dumb or ask if she is to have sex with you. If that is what you are asking. As honestly you have not really spelled that out except with the "novia" part, which is somewhat vague. Could just mean hugging and kissing.

If you really want to know if she is a pro offer a reasonable amt of money not 10K as she will say "NO" and you won't know if she is a non pro or a higher priced pro. Say 2 millones and just about any woman will say yes or she will think you are full of it, a clown who will never pay that high an ammount. She will close the chat window as you will have scared her off.

If she is going to meet you after her class in the 7-8PM range and is agreeing to being your novia while you are here in the country throw out 200K-250K for the night. Which is on the high end or 150-200K if just for a few hours.

Just about 9 out of 10 girls on these sites take it. Some will state they never did this before. I also believe the one that does not take you up on your offer still has a 50/50 chance of still being a pro but is smart enough to think that you could be her boyfriend or neighbor behind a fake profile. She will STILL continue the conversation even after you somewhat insulted her. Just because she does not want to lose a potential customer and when you are together and she knows you are a real guy then the negotiation will start.

There are 3 mayorista street walkers on one of these sites. I can only guess what they charge the internet gringos. In Mayorista they are 30K.

Either way if she entertains the conversation after you offer to help her with money you know she is 100% a pro.

Log on with your real profile and scratch her from your list.

[Latin Lover]

Isabella is a pro. I confirmed it with a friend of mine. She is educated in technology, but fell into the trap of making mucho dinero on her looks. She is very well spoken, I too have talked on the phone with her. Hot as a fire cracker, but a LDV girl. Look on amor de Cartagena website and you will also see her there. Super beautiful. Maybe she is trying to get out of the business now. She has had some surgery done too. Look at her old photos and then compare to the new. Also, any girl living in Cartagena using an IPHONE got her money somewhere! Good luck and be careful. She is good for one night. Don't fall in love!

Your right she is a pro and a shitty piece of ass, she is alot about being treated like a princess. (but she's a working girl so who needs a working girl who wants to be a princess)

I think she is use to desperate guys who only want a trophy looking girl on there arm.

She is all about the money cost me 250, 000 colombian for short time with her because after we did the deed she all of a sudden had an emergency and had to leave.

(also I paid for dinner and her taxis both ways)

No worries though because I took a Vitamin V after she left and went direct to LDV and got a young 21 year old hottie from Medilin who was like an instant girlfriend and was 150, 000 colombian for 3 hours.

Isabella is great at promoting herself in advance, but is like a dead fish in the sack.

She is now 29 and her looks will fade and her shitty attitude will probably stay with her a lifetime.

Also update on LDV (way more ladies there than men on the 3 nights I was there) gets going real strong around midnight.

Girls were quoting 150, 000 short time and 300, 000 TLN great deal in my opinion based on what US prices are for similar quality of chickas.

Also many desperate people now in Cartagena and many will try to rip you off and follow you many blocks and try to intimidate you, so just keep walking and say No Thanks.

Also always ask the price of everything because if you don't they will cheat you

[DoloresThomas]

Did anyone know this guy? 36 Y.O. Norweigan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU-Dd...layer_embedded

Nice A on the "paisa" girl that was with him.

As for the "sickness" he had, I wouldn't want to guess.

[Member #4244]

I m sorry to tell you this man but I was there This past may and there is no bar fine at LDV. And the most I pay for a girl from there was 150k for TLN true they do start at 200k-300k but the ones that start it at 300k I just told them that I wasn't interest and move on there is lots of 7-10 at this bar so don't waste your time with the ones that have been spoil by people that think they are going to get a better service by paying 2x the going rate.

I didn't mean to imply there was a bar fine at LDV, LDV and some other places the girls are ostensibly independent, there is plenty of independent action there for 150-300K TLN. Even with bar fines I've seen them at the high end of that. Masajes Rocio used to be a favorite but their takeout fee is now 200K (girl a bit less than that, usually about 150K.

I think it's fair to say that CTG is a little pricier than places in the interior apart from maybe Bogota.

[Dustin6902]

You must know that- pro. Prostitute-prepago-poor girl needing money-gold digger. Regular girl are very closely related, if the girl is a prostitue your going to pump and dump her? I bet she is telling her friends if YOU are a sex tourist she is going to cash and dump. As many gold digger there is, there are just as many gringo sex seekers. She knows its not her beautiful soul your after. This is why the gringo connection works so good sex for money! No matter how you slice it your looking for sex she is looking for money! Am I right?

I find Cartagena is one of the hardest citys in Colombia to find a so called regular date internet girl, mainly because its flooded with sex tourists. Medellin is easier and other parts are like shooting fish in a barrel. Just ask isabelle if she likes regalos? An enthusistic response from her you will have your answer. But you already have your answer. Now you just have to negotiate price. Bring some cheap victoria secret stuff nd meet her to be your tour guide in the walled city or the islands. Then ask her back to the room. When she leaves ask does she need some money? I can help you if you want. Bueno suerte amigo, its your fantasy. Live it!

Really you have to assume CC girls are money seekers until they prove otherwise

Isabella is a pro. I confirmed it with a friend of mine. She is educated in technology, but fell into the trap of making mucho dinero on her looks. She is very well spoken, I too have talked on the phone with her. Hot as a fire cracker, but a LDV girl. Look on amor de Cartagena website and you will also see her there. Super beautiful. Maybe she is trying to get out of the business now. She has had some surgery done too. Look at her old photos and then compare to the new. Also, any girl living in Cartagena using an IPHONE got her money somewhere! Good luck and be careful. She is good for one night. Don't fall in love!

[DeadCellz]

I am in Cartagena for the next two weeks. I would like to meet some new buddies to hangout in Old Town, at Bars, clubs etc.

[Lusifer69]

Now that I take a 2nd look at it I see it. I m sorry the other day I just took a fast glance at it and assume right away that he was talking about LDV having a bar fine. I look at this page at 3 in the morning when I get out of work it happens. Thanks for the correction Hilltopper.

I believe you comprehended his report differently than how originally intended. I don't believe the OP indicated that LDV charged a bar fine, but in those places that did the going rate was up to 400 mil including the fine. The way I read what he posted, you and he are pretty much in agreement as to the going rate at LDV.

IMO, just a matter of how one interprets what another wrote. My money says the Wilt guy wasn't trying to convey that LDV charged a bar fine.

[Hilltopper]

I m sorry to tell you this man but I was there This past may and there is no bar fine at LDV. And the most I pay for a girl from there was 150k for TLN true they do start at 200k-300k but the ones that start it at 300k I just told them that I wasn't interest and move on there is lots of 7-10 at this bar so don't waste your time with the ones that have been spoil by people that think they are going to get a better service by paying 2x the going rate.

I believe you comprehended his report differently than how originally intended. I don't believe the OP indicated that LDV charged a bar fine, but in those places that did the going rate was up to 400 mil including the fine. The way I read what he posted, you and he are pretty much in agreement as to the going rate at LDV.

IMO, just a matter of how one interprets what another wrote. My money says the Wilt guy wasn't trying to convey that LDV charged a bar fine.

[El Vagabundo]

Anyone want to trade time in my apartment in Cartagena for miles on Avianca or American?

[Lusifer69]

I m sorry to tell you this man but I was there This past may and there is no bar fine at LDV. And the most I pay for a girl from there was 150k for TLN true they do start at 200k-300k but the ones that start it at 300k I just told them that I wasn't interest and move on there is lots of 7-10 at this bar so don't waste your time with the ones that have been spoil by people that think they are going to get a better service by paying 2x the going rate.

I was planning to visit Cartagena in September but your post really depressed me. Can anyone confirm it please.

Hahahaha, sorry I did not mean to depress you or turn you off. Cartagena is a solid tourist destination and there is action. The 400K I quoted was with bar fines. At LDV you can get TLN for 200K to 300K (they usually start at 300, will go down to 200 or 150).

There are girls on the street but few have ever really tempted. Amigos have amigas, too. I woudn't sweat it too much, I just think there are much better places for mongering and all of them are in the interior.

But CTG is worth seeing, a day or two, you can easily shoot to santa marta from there. Parque tayrona is awesome, many ex pats there. Some action, very reasonably priced if you stay patient, not the hotness / selection of bigger cities but does have good service.

[Member #4244]

[QUOTE=Sebans; 1180193]I was planning to visit Cartagena in September but your post really depressed me. Can anyone confirm it please. [/QUOTE.

Hahahaha, sorry I did not mean to depress you or turn you off. Cartagena is a solid tourist destination and there is action. The 400K I quoted was with bar fines. At LDV you can get TLN for 200K to 300K (they usually start at 300, will go down to 200 or 150).

There are girls on the street but few have ever really tempted. Amigos have amigas, too. I woudn't sweat it too much, I just think there are much better places for mongering and all of them are in the interior.

But CTG is worth seeing, a day or two, you can easily shoot to santa marta from there. Parque tayrona is awesome, many ex pats there. Some action, very reasonably priced if you stay patient, not the hotness / selection of bigger cities but does have good service.

[Que Rico]

Hola everyone.

I have been comunicating with a girl from Cartagena named Isabella,

She is 28 years old and from Cartagena.

I met her on the.

www.colombiancupid.com

Web site, she is an absolute KNock out and very sexy.

I know she is real because we have talked on the phone and have also skyped.

Anyone know of this girl?

Is she a pro? Anyone ever seen her in LDV or Electra?

I want to get to know her more but if she's a pro then I will just pump and dump.

Any info is greatly appreciated

You must know that- pro. Prostitute-prepago-poor girl needing money-gold digger. Regular girl are very closely related, if the girl is a prostitue your going to pump and dump her? I bet she is telling her friends if YOU are a sex tourist she is going to cash and dump. As many gold digger there is, there are just as many gringo sex seekers. She knows its not her beautiful soul your after. This is why the gringo connection works so good sex for money! No matter how you slice it your looking for sex she is looking for money! Am I right?

I find Cartagena is one of the hardest citys in Colombia to find a so called regular date internet girl, mainly because its flooded with sex tourists. Medellin is easier and other parts are like shooting fish in a barrel. Just ask isabelle if she likes regalos? An enthusistic response from her you will have your answer. But you already have your answer. Now you just have to negotiate price. Bring some cheap victoria secret stuff nd meet her to be your tour guide in the walled city or the islands. Then ask her back to the room. When she leaves ask does she need some money? I can help you if you want. Bueno suerte amigo, its your fantasy. Live it!

Really you have to assume CC girls are money seekers until they prove otherwise