Cartagena Reports

[Artful]

Artful, thanks for the excellent report. I hope you had a chance to check out Giro Matto in el centro.

I thought I'd followed up my earlier report with another report on some of the other options in CTG, but either a) I was drunk (very possible) or b) the system screwed up (less possible), but anyway it didn't seem to post, so here goes for a second time.

I've been to CTG 4 or 5 times in total and have become less dependant upon LDV. LDV still features in most if not all of my nights, but not necessarily the highlight. Here's a rundown of the non-LDV options. Apologies, but I'm not that good at remembering prices.

1) Giro Matto, as mentioned by Sean EZ above. The favoured option after 3am. As Sean says, it's the venue LDV girls go when it closes, and it's a more relaxed, less transactional atmosphere. I have to admit, I AM WITHOUT FAIL annihilated by the time I reach here, which probably contribute to the consistently good time I have. Prices are probably lower. To be honest, I think probably only 1/3 of the girls there are LDV regulars...I don't really know where the others come from, but 85.6% of them are available. ' Giro Matto is a club, with relentless electronic/techno playing, so if you can't tolerate this, maybe this place is not for you.

2) La Triplaterra, Mr Bimboa....(there's one or two others, I can't remember their names I'm afraid). These are bars located in Centro. They're decent pre-midnight options. If you accept that the best experiences usually don't come from the stunners (all experienced mongers will agree with this) then you'll be happy here. Not to say they're mingers coz they're not, I've seen one or two 9/10s in there, but a higher average is found in LDV, but IMO they're more friendly here. The girls that go to these places on the whole don't go to LDV, so when you've been 3 nights in a row to LDV and people start shouting your name as soon as you walk-in in true 'Cheers' style, pay these places a visit.

3) Pleyboy. I wasn't really impressed by Pleyboy. I've been to several casas, and although it's head and shoulders above the rest in CTG, it doesn't really compare well with the Termas in Rio. Actually, it doesn't even come close to the Termas in Rio. Prices weren't good, esp when compared with the options above, which are usually for TLN if you know what you're doing.

4) Casas. I went to several over one or two days. They were all really grim IMHO. Cheap options, but not offering what I'm looking for: quality girls, and a party atmosphere. Will suit those looking for a quick bang.

5) Daytime options. For me, a shy retiring Englishman, CTG is hard work during the day. 75% of the time tho, there's been an LDV girl hanging around from the night before, which has suited me fine. A couple of occasions tho, I've kept numbers from girls I met at the casas, and called them during the day. I don't mean to be disparaging, but my experience with casa girls is that they're less wordly-wise than their LDV counter-parts which equates to lower prices. They also tend to be a bit starry-eyed in the presence of gringos and a couple of times have gotten quite attached to. I should point out that I am gorgeous, which might explain this. <joke>

Sweetlemon: accept your point, of course, that there's a massive variety of prices in both RIO and CTG. However, if you're looking for a beautiful girl that'll give a decent experience, LDV on average will be 30-40% cheaper than Help, which is the fairest comparison I can come up with.

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[Junkyard]

Hello Everyone,

Before I get into the story, I'll express my experiences at ATM's while there since it seems to be a hot topic. I am only stating what happened to me and I'm not intending to offend anyone.

I wish I would of known about the ATM at the Hilton. I always ended up using the ATM next to the Frozen Yogurt shop in el Laguito. Half the time it didn't print out a receipt, and it was broken for 3 days of my trip. The maximum take is 300K.

I ended up walking around Bocagrande and found a few more ATMs. One with a 200K limit, and another with a 300K. There was one day where I really needed to get money and the Frozen Yogurt one was broken, and the other 300K one in Bocagrande was out. And at the 200K bank only one machine worked! Granted it was my first trip there, it was frusterating. I finally found another machine farther in Bocagrande that worked. And BTW, even though I told my credit union I was going to Colombia they blocked my card on day 6. I haven't had the time to ask them why, just an FYI. I ended up using my backup for the last 4 days of the trip.

Ok, back to the fun! That night my the american friend and I checked out Tripletera in el centro. We got there around 11:30pm and the place had about 20 girls. The best was maybe a 7.5. No real stunners. We decided to stay for 45 minutes and watch the fun. There was loud club music and all the girls seemed to be having a good time. I asked a waiter (who looked and acted like a regular customer) if all the girls here are working. He said yes. It also cost 10K to enter. I did talk to one girl that caught my eye. I screened her and bought her a drink. Because of my trip to Cocolisco earlier in the trip, my back was itching. I asked her to scratch it and she refused! I couldn't believe it. She said something about this being a disco club. Whatever that means. It turned me off so bad I left her sitting on the couch. A few minutes later my friend and I left to go to Ysis.

We get to Ysis and it's a smaller club. As usual we are the only gringos there. We end up talking to a few girls. They end up having kids (we wanted to have girls with no kids tonight) so we decided to check out Pleyboy.

We went to Pleyboy and I was unimpressed. I was there earlier in my trip, but this time it had maybe 10 - 15 girls. I expected to see great looking girls but I all I saw was maybe an 8 here and there. We stayed for 10 minutes, but we both agreed we didn't like the atmosphere and the women. My friend had an idea. He told the cab driver to run around el centro and find some working street girls. So we did.

After 15 minutes of this it was clear no good ones were to be found, so we went back to Tripltera. Same girls, same story. So we went to Ysis. My friend found a girl he wanted. After 20 minutes talking to her, she wanted 400K for all night. He refused. I found a girl with a great body, but ok face. She didn't have kids so I bit. She wanted 200K. I told her 150K. She said ok but with a tip. I told her yes if I liked her. I had to pay the money to the bar and not her. My friend ended up going to LDV that night. He got there around 3pm and said it was excellent and got a nice lady who likes it in the ass.

One thing all people tell me is trust your instincts. The chica I took home had a semi-bad attitude. She performed well in the sack, no BBBJ. Did I mension she had a great body? But overall attitude I didn't like. I told her if I liked her I'd give her a tip. After it was done I didn't ger her one. She blurted something in Spanish about me never going back to Ysis then left the apartment. That's two girls now leaving mad. Probably just newbie learning.

The next day I decided to call up the chica I had from Venus my second day. She is a 7.5, but the best attitude I've seen so far. I'll post a picture of her soon. Sex whenever I wanted, and a great attitude the whole time. We went to go to the San Felipe castle, too. With her I had a realization. I never used to look forward to BJ's. It was because no one was doing them right.

She stayed all night and left the next morning. The all night takeout fee at Venus is 80K, and I paid her 220K on top of that. I know I could of got away with less, but I liked her and I'm sure she could use it.

For my last trip, I called a taxi driver from before and told him to pick me up at 8:30pm. To my surprise he came at 8:20. Because of broken through plans, my american friend came too. I had 700K in my pocket and was ready to have some fun. Our first stop: Casa de Marino.

I was still debating whether to get several girls, or get one for all night. We get to Casa De Marino at about 9pm. No guys, and about 8 or 9 girls. We sit by ourselves at a table and try to figure out which one we want, if any. I saw the girl I had before but I wanted variety. Two girls caught my eye and I got the taxi driver to get one of them over. She looked good, but told me she had one child. I wanted a stunner, so she left to do something and I called the other one over. If she wouldn't of left, I would of had to reject her somehow. What's the best way? This new girl was hot. I have one picture of her and it doesn't do her justice. I ended up paying the house fee of 130K plus 200K to bring her home for an all nighter. My american friend is more money conscious. He picked another girl and got her down to 130 + 150 after some bargaining. Next trip I'll dedicate a night to haggling.

She was hungry so we stopped by a gas station to pick up some food. Now picture this. A hot colombian girl dressed up like a stripper and a gringo in a mini food mart in a gas station. Priceless. I get her back and we drink some rum and hang out on the balcony. She was great but she was a little sensitive in her breasts. I never got a BJ from her, but then again I never asked (they always just give it to you). Overall I'd give her an attitude of a 7.

The next morning I left early for my flight to Bogata. I didn't realize that in Colombia you only need to get to your flight 60-90 minutes early. Not 150 minutes. They literally told me to wait around for 80 minutes then come back. Remember to have your 80K to leave the country.

That's it. Thanks to everyone with their experiences and advice. Overall I had a great experience and I'm coming back. Send me a message if you want any details on my 3 reports.

Junkyard

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[MJG Dogs]

Gee I wonder why you are still there. I would think you would rather be in The United States of America, where the women are pasty,fat and think you own them not just something, but everything. God I know the weather must be awful in CTG also, I mean you can be in Green Bay in Janurary and have better climate. I bet you would sacrifice the hot colombianas for an opportunity to hang out at the local Bowling alley.

All kidding aside, some people Tom do not have the ability to evaluate data in front of them and make a decision or have a mild discomfort in Cartagena and you would think all hell had broken loose. So an ATM does not work, BFD.....

[Tom 33]

Hey guys, we can't confuse Sweetie with the facts. I guess he can't find the Hilton or read. And cajero automatico(o ah-te-emay) is pretty hard to pronounce.

I have lived in Laguito for 4 years. The ATM by Yogen Fruz has failed to function for me maybe 4 times in 4 years. That has been my primary ATM. I have to walk about 40 yards to get there. The Hilton is maybe 70 yards in the other direction. But there is no 5-star restaurant between my building and the ATM.

Why am I still here?

[MJG Dogs]

The one at the yogurt shop worked every time I used it in August, the best one is on the same street about 100 meters before Olympica ( the supermarket) in Bocagrande, yes it is 15-20 minutes roundtrip max, if you walk, but you can get 500K at a time from the ATM. The only complaint about that ATM is that it is the coldest place in Cartagena, once you lock yourself in there you freeze your ass off.

[Xxxgoat]

There is a Hilton in Laguito, it has an ATM. I used it many times. A hop, skip, and jump from the Torre Centauro. Next time use that and stop wasting time going to Boca Grande.

Also, when I was there in June it had a $400,000 limit, higher then any other I had found.

Goat

[Sylvester]

I guess we got that sorted out.




I think I'm going to stand by the ATM complaint. From Laguito it's about a 20 to 30 mintue walk to an ATM in Boca Grande round trip which in my book is pretty inconvinient (though perhaps maditory walking is good for the health). The only ATM I can find in Laguito is the one near the frozen yogurt place which is down most of the time.

Anyway, the Colombian women are as gorgeous as any women anywhere on any measure, that much is certain.

There is a Hilton in Laguito, it has an ATM. I used it many times. A hop, skip, and jump from the Torre Centauro. Next time use that and stop wasting time going to Boca Grande.

[Member #4603]

The chap that posted earlier about Rio being equitable was just plain wrong.

I'm guessing I'd be the afrementioned chap or if not I think "plain wrong" is a bit bold. One, including myself, really shouldn't overgeneralize about prices. I notice lots of debates over prices on this board (and I see dudes getting into it over like $20 differences) which is pointless becuase a woman in these situations is really not a commodity and there are so many variables that can influence what she asks for and what you agree to pay that guys spouting different rates can both be correct. In Mexico, for example, prices vary from $10 USD for 20 mintue shag with a skanky Boys Town puta to $1,000 USD for a couple hours with an elite model in Mexico City. I've sampled both.

If you go to Rio during Carnival or high season prices will be very high becuase there are too many dudes there willing to pay anything. And why not, this is their big chance. The law of supply and demand. You'll find many girls travel to Rio from all over Brazil and really a lot of Brazilian girls working in Europe come back to work this season. I lived in Rio for a year and found prices were generally reasonable at Help and even better in other places, better than what I experienced in my brief sample at LDV (though I admit I don't really like to bargin and again I'm sure you can do better). I'm sure you could find some $20 USD nookie here in Cart as well if you really worked it. You can get hot girls in Rio for as little as $10 or $20 USD in certian places. I don't even want to mention Belo Horizonte which has a large complex of shabby hotles near the Rodoviária where you can get a decent girl, I kid you not, for as little as $5 USD. In Rio the quantity and variety is so, so much greater than Cartagena that it's not even comprable really. I'm sure any dude that wants to truck it to Vila Mimosa in Rio can find girls they find totally hot for $10 or $20 bucks (Vila Mimosa is NOT recomended for non-Portuguese speakers or uptight people becuase it's really shady and really rowdy.)

I agree some girls at Help will try on very high prices and there are some girls there so beautiful that you can't resist. I guess one's communication and appearance can also be a big factor as well as your intentions. I think a girl is likely to quote high for guys they find unattractive, disagreable, who can't speak the language or who wants to spend all night plugging her in the ass (or of course those who accept the first price that sails out of a girl's mouth and doesn't bargain). If you're all of these things expect to pay top dollar. Most girls would rather go party and have fun with some guy she vibes with and is attracted to (or at least some guy that wants a simple quickie around the corner in a love motel) and quote accordingly. If she thinks there is some boyfriend potential she or just digs you she may go for free. I generally prefer the "free" action (save dinner, drinks, taxis, etc) in all of the above places personally. Also, there is just obviosuly large variation from girl to girl as beauty is in the eye of the beholder both in terms of their self opinion and our opinion of them. I guess purists could also mention exchange rates and all that not to mention if that perpetually sick aunt actually gets sick and the family is in need some fast cash. So plug all those variables into your nookie calculator.

Anyway, the rates I quoted are not by government decree, but based on my personal experience. I'm sure other prices mentioned were just as true for their publishers.

One thing is certain though and that is Rio can be hella dangerous. I got into three physical fights of various degrees of severity during my year there there and a friend of mine got mugged at knife point and also got into a pretty bad bar fight with some management that tried to pull a major rip off scam on him and he refused to pay. Two other friends got their drinks spiked and got extremely sick.

Some of the girls in Rio are pure evil. I can't say that to the same degree about girls I met anywhere else, even in the US, Africa or Haiti. Rio is both the best and the worst of places. The Brazilians have a saying (this is a weak paraphrase) about how when God created Brazil instead of giving them earthquakes, hurricanes and natural disasters his punishment was instead to give them Brazilians. The biggest (and possibly only) advantage that Cartagena has over Rio IMO is that Cartagena is safe and Rio is not.

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[Member #4603]

if you are too lazy to walk, you can bus there for 900 pesos.

dude, seriously. yes, i know where boca grande is. i have been there countless times now and, yes, i agree it has some atms. no, i am not too "lazy" to walk. i wanted to let people know that getting money can be a bit inconvenient in laguito – and it can be.

i think many people visiting won't like to have to take a cab/bus/walk to boca grade when they find laguito's lonely atm down, either. sometimes people need cash fast (and tourists generally need cash constantly) and drawn out/complicated atm runs in an unfamiliar city, particularly at night, and especially for all those that don't know how to ask for an atm in spanish can be a chore so please chill.

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anyway, in other news...

i went to pley club the other evening. it's a long ride from laguito and i almost didn't believe we had arrived when i saw it from the outside. it didn’t look like the city’s “top” strip club. it looked like a dirty non-descript house with some taxis mulling about outside. it’s actually connected to a ragged hotel-esque structure with a dozen rooms or more where the girls take you for a shag and where i later found out that the visiting girls actually live.

the inside was smallish and very bland save for some flourishes and a couple fancy lights around the bar area. you can see that they made some effort to make it look like a strip club but also that they fell far short of achieving the full effect. loud techno music, smoky, somewhat limited drink selection. there were two strobe lights, one broken, so it was always a bit too dark to see the girls well. the stage itself i have to say was pathetic. it had all the ambiance of a dirty fish tank and the single poll was too short for any proper acrobatics. beers were 7,000 cop and there was no cover. there was no high pressure lady drink stuff here either so it was pretty tranquil on that front. girls didn’t pressure you unless you wanted them to. this is not a rip off joint (save for a couple hustlers outside hoping to put the bite on you for this or that as you try to arrange a taxi back home).

i went on a saturday at about 1:00 am and there were about 30 girls and 30 guys there, all colombian. the girls mainly lined the perimeters sitting in chairs or dancing by themselves waiting for an invitation while the guys occupied the tables around the stage. all girls cost the same 150,000 cop for an in-house shag and 300,000 to leave with you. you actually pay at the bar and they register the girl and the sum in a big book. the girls were from 5 to 7 i’d say. i was planning on taking one out, but i didn’t see anyone worth taking out, so i resolved to shag as many girls as i could in-house until i could shag no more. all things considered, the ldv had better looking girls.

viewing it through the lens of a strip club (and it may really be more of a brothel/bar where a bit of stripping takes place that a real strip club), there were some odd characteristics of this “strip club”. first, none (or almost none) of the girls were wearing hot stripper clothes. they were mainly in jeans or dresses not different what you might find at the ldv or even on the street. when i go to a strip club, i want to see thongs, and thigh-highs and spandex and tits and asses undulating at every turn. you really get very little of this at pley club. second, it seems like there was an inordinately long period between dancers, like 10 or 15 minutes. ok, this gives people an opportunity to dance and mingle i suppose, but personally i’d rather see wall to wall stripping. a real oddity was that immediately after the girl’s show (and they do strip to the nude) is that a guy jumps up on stage and wraps the girl in a robe that looks like it had been lifted from sugar ray leonard’s locker room circa 1980. what’s odd isn’t the robe but the urgency with which he jumps on stage and wraps the dancer with it as if she were his wife and everyone else where some ill mannered neighbor that had just barged into their bedroom uninvited as she was getting out of the shower. personally, i’d encourage the girls to walk around nude as much as possible. i’m sure management would have more to write in that big book of theirs if they did.

anyway, i was getting on with various girls and especially enjoying two blond paisas (paisa is what they call girls from medellín apparently). i enjoyed pretending i heard them say payasa (which means clown), then pretending like i didn’t understand their explanation and then asking them where their red nose was or if it took a long time to learn how to juggle.

i had just left the room adjacent to the entrance after shagging one of them to observe all the lights on and a bunch of military standing around checking ids. word to the wise—don’t mess with **** girls. the military it turns out where there checking for **** girls and if that cute blonde i had just shagged had turned out to be 16, i’m not sure it would have been an especially good evening. i got the feeling that that is not the sort of offense that one can slip them $20 to forget about and felt a bit nervous given the stone looks on their faces. i guess everyone passed inspection as they left about 15 minutes later without any incident at which point the lights went off and the music started again.

it was an ok experience, but i’m still missing the sort of insane shapes you see in brazil and mexico where the girls in the top places look like the exaggeratedly sexy women you see in comic books.

in sum, pley club is so so, ldv has better quality and cart i still find lacking from my perspective. i think the regular non-pro discos are where you’ll find the best looking women in cartagena imho but you have to be smooth and speak spanish to take advantage.

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[Escort King]

If it is the Valentina from MDE that I know, she likes anything but "making love". She likes it rough and hard. Tall flaca, brown hair butt you can just about hold in one hand......ohhhh the memories.......
Sparky

lol... funny how thoser are the ones that really get into the memory - have a few memories from various places in the world like that.

[Sparkchaser69]

If it is the Valentina from MDE that I know, she likes anything but "making love". She likes it rough and hard. Tall flaca, brown hair butt you can just about hold in one hand......ohhhh the memories.......
Sparky

[John]

Great Report John!

A question: Which Valentina did you encounter from LDV? (there seems to be about 3) Was she from Medellin, Monteria or Barranquilla?

There is a thread on another web site that warns about a girls from LDV, with the same name.

I encountered a girl with this name in LDV last year that was a less than satisfactory experience. ( I am guessing not the same you met)

Any fotos of her? Or describe her?

Thanks

Jim Nelson,

The Valentina I had was from Medellin. As per describing her she didn't look no more than 19 years of age. Her tit size was may be a B cup. Young and energetic girl.

HEHE, One of the chics i almost fell in love with. If I wasn't married I would certainly think about her much much more.

Only reason i go mongering around the world is to keep all those good memories in international waters and not to bring them home (LOL).

Regards,

John.

[Jim Nelson]

Great Report John!

A question: Which Valentina did you encounter from LDV? (there seems to be about 3) Was she from Medellin, Monteria or Barranquilla?

There is a thread on another web site that warns about a girls from LDV, with the same name.

I encountered a girl with this name in LDV last year that was a less than satisfactory experience. ( I am guessing not the same you met)

Any fotos of her? Or describe her?

Thanks

[Tom 33]

A quick photo tip: when there is a bright background, use forced flash.

[Sean EZ]

hi,,
to my mind, ldv is a smaller, well ok much smaller, version of helpee.]

artful, thanks for the excellent report. i hope you had a chance to check out giro matto in el centro. although it doesn't start until late (past 3am), it's a great place to be after chasing after regular girls is over. you'll see a lot of girls from ldv you saw earlier in the nite, but the prices come down and it has more of an atmosphere of a regular club which makes it a lot of fun bringing them back. also, there you are more likely to run into an occasional semipro visiting from out of town (also true of tu candela)

i just returned from the miss colombia week in cartagena. compared to last year, there were a lot fewer people this year...