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  1. #1402
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny 12
    Although seeing the Old City is without a doubt worth a trip, if you're into old Spanish architecture or Colombian history.
    Totally agreed. I don´t mean to knock Cartagena as a whole. It is a beautiful city without a doubt, and with a rich history. And Colombianos in general are great friendly people. I could see how someone might want to live there and monger there. It just didn´t rub me the right way.

    If you´re into seeing beautiful ancient buildings and are going across the world anyway to get there, I´d suggest Siem Reap in Cambodia.

    One of the ladies in Cartagena said that I wouldn´t have a problem with touts in Bogota, but that they´d just rob me outright. It´s true, there are very few touts in Bogota and one can tell by the soldiers and police everywhere that there are problems with crime. I still love it, though. I think I´d prefer to be robbed outright rather than have some tout smile at me and call me his friend while robbing me.

  2. #1401
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom 33
    You don't need to be a Gringo to attract them. They make their living on Colombian tourists.
    Best way to get rid of touts in any country.

    *** Wear a set of white ipod earfphones...*** you can be trouble free in paradise. Its like hawker kryptonite.

  3. #1400

    Touts

    You don't need to be a Gringo to attract them. They make their living on Colombian tourists.

  4. #1399
    Nice report skyjuice! Your experiences there are similiar to my visit last month.I will be back in three weeks and hope LDV will remain a buyers market.As for the touts it is a shame they can't some how regulate them.I guess that is the price we pay though.....later mule

  5. #1398
    Greydove

    I have never been to CTG, but only to San Andres. There is a complete report in that section. Also an earlier one from LP.

    I had one night of mongering and the rest was my novia from Periera. I so not know how easy it would be to find a girl there for every day. It is much more a vacation spot with the special girl. But there is P4P action to be found.

    I will say the beaches and reefs are as good as any Caribbean island I have been to. I don't know what CTG has to offer in terms of beaches.

    But from reading here the chica scene is way better in CTG.

    Travlr.

  6. #1397
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyjuice
    ´ve been here in Cartagena for 6 days now. I really cant give a full detailed report on my adventures as yet until I sort out my pics of the chicas and what went on with each of them. Yes..short term memmory is my downfall. Pictures will be posted when I get home next week. I rented one of Mery´s apartments for me and a buddy. Nice clean rooms, great view of the beach and Mery is a total sweetheart. As for the street action, You´ll have no problem here. Tom, who is a stand up guy by the way, is correct..some of the hottest chicas around here are the 60k peso ones. You can find a nice hottie by just stopping off at one of the local restaraunts in Laguito or Bocagrande that have tables outside. Just sit down and have yourself a drink and you will see some sweet looking chicas walk by from time to time. If you´re looking for a pro, many of the LDV chicas that ask for 150k are worth it in terms of looks but you never really know what you get until she´s in your bed. I´m a bargain hunter so I always try to get a lower price like 100k or 80k. So far I´m batting 100% on my negotiations. Speaking of LDV, every since my first night there, the chicas out number the buyers at least 8 to 1. I dont know what the deal is but I hope it stays this way..hmmm..that must be why I´m getting my price..Duhhh. Most of the colombian girls here have that typical latino look with the long hair and natural tanned complexion but I have seen from very light (caucasion) to dark although there are a sprinkle of black chicas around...not many though. If you´re into black girls, then colombia is definatly the place to be because from what I can see, they dont seem to get much attention from the euro guys like the others here so you can probably get a bargain price...but what do I know?.I´ve only been here 6 days. Anyway, for the most part, colombian women are very beautiful. I´ve been to the dominican republic 4 times and I would have to say that the women over here are more exotic looking. Before coming here, I had the notion that If I could dress down, not wear any expensive clothes or jewelry, I could possibly blend in a little and avoid the street peddelers. ummmm...NOPE !!! I´m a 35 yr old black guy and I feel like I got a big sticker on my forehead that says, ¨GRINGO¨. I´ve been to several 3rd world countries and so far and Cartagena, Colombia has the most aggressive street vendors I´ve ever encountered. With them, the word, ¨NO¨ means ¨ ok, keep trying and I will buy something, eventually¨. I dont even look at them now. I just say, ¨no gracias¨ , once and keep walking.

    The touts have a sixth sense of who is a gringo and who is not. Avoid eye contact, wear headphones and keep walking. Never stop and look at anything, for they will swarm you like locusts

  7. #1396

    Hey Fellas...

    ´ve been here in Cartagena for 6 days now. I really cant give a full detailed report on my adventures as yet until I sort out my pics of the chicas and what went on with each of them. Yes..short term memmory is my downfall. Pictures will be posted when I get home next week. I rented one of Mery´s apartments for me and a buddy. Nice clean rooms, great view of the beach and Mery is a total sweetheart. As for the street action, You´ll have no problem here. Tom, who is a stand up guy by the way, is correct..some of the hottest chicas around here are the 60k peso ones. You can find a nice hottie by just stopping off at one of the local restaraunts in Laguito or Bocagrande that have tables outside. Just sit down and have yourself a drink and you will see some sweet looking chicas walk by from time to time. If you´re looking for a pro, many of the LDV chicas that ask for 150k are worth it in terms of looks but you never really know what you get until she´s in your bed. I´m a bargain hunter so I always try to get a lower price like 100k or 80k. So far I´m batting 100% on my negotiations. Speaking of LDV, every since my first night there, the chicas out number the buyers at least 8 to 1. I dont know what the deal is but I hope it stays this way..hmmm..that must be why I´m getting my price..Duhhh. Most of the colombian girls here have that typical latino look with the long hair and natural tanned complexion but I have seen from very light (caucasion) to dark although there are a sprinkle of black chicas around...not many though. If you´re into black girls, then colombia is definatly the place to be because from what I can see, they dont seem to get much attention from the euro guys like the others here so you can probably get a bargain price...but what do I know?.I´ve only been here 6 days. Anyway, for the most part, colombian women are very beautiful. I´ve been to the dominican republic 4 times and I would have to say that the women over here are more exotic looking. Before coming here, I had the notion that If I could dress down, not wear any expensive clothes or jewelry, I could possibly blend in a little and avoid the street peddelers. ummmm...NOPE !!! I´m a 35 yr old black guy and I feel like I got a big sticker on my forehead that says, ¨GRINGO¨. I´ve been to several 3rd world countries and so far and Cartagena, Colombia has the most aggressive street vendors I´ve ever encountered. With them, the word, ¨NO¨ means ¨ ok, keep trying and I will buy something, eventually¨. I dont even look at them now. I just say, ¨no gracias¨ , once and keep walking.

  8. #1395

    Bart

    "I wasn´t in a better negotiating position in Cartagena for knowing fluent English."

    Sounds right to me. My English doesn't help me much here either.

  9. #1394
    Bartchamdo, good to see at least one person agrees with me about mongering, the climate and language in Cartagena. Although seeing the Old City is without a doubt worth a trip, if you're into old Spanish architecture or Colombian history.

  10. #1393

    General Thoughts on Cartagena

    After arriving at Bogota I realize that Cartagena just wasnt for me. Everyone´s mileage may vary. Bogota has lots of places to get a cheap quickie. The women and people in general seem to have a great attitude. Something about Cartagena was difficult for me to get into.

    I read on this forum and other places that Cartagena would be a good Colombian destination if your Spanish skillls are lacking. I disagree with this. The main advantage I had in knowing English was making it easier for touts to communicate with me and slightly easier to work out hotel arrangements. I worked out a hotel in Bogota without any English and things are going fine.

    I wasn´t in a better negotiating position in Cartagena for knowing fluent English. I'm just as reliant on Spanish in Bogota for important things as I was in Cartagena. And here in Bogota I'm not dripping with sweat after walking around outside for 5 mins.

  11. #1392
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom 33
    There is no correlation between what you pay and what you get. Recently I have paid as much as 150K for short time and as little as 40K. Some of the best times I've had for 40 to 60K. That 150K was quite special as well.

    Of course I've lived here for over 3 years, speak some Spanish, and treat the girls very well. I'm also old and fat.
    Ha Ha...and probably get more FINE pussy than most Hollywood actors!! I've seen the proof.Besides you ain't that old!

  12. #1391
    There is no correlation between what you pay and what you get. Recently I have paid as much as 150K for short time and as little as 40K. Some of the best times I've had for 40 to 60K. That 150K was quite special as well.

    Of course I've lived here for over 3 years, speak some Spanish, and treat the girls very well. I'm also old and fat.

  13. #1390
    Thanks, TheShadow2. Overall I´m disappointed with Cartagena. Can´t wait to leave for Bogota tomorrow. The women here all seem very into making some quick cash and arent really into much else. I´d be willing to pay more for a better experience, but it hasn´t happened here. I´m hoping Bogota will bring better things because it´s less tourist oriented.

    One detail I found amusing was that Carolina referred to her boss at Club Rocio as "Mamasan." I haven´t heard "Pay mamasan!" since Thailand, and I thought it even sounded weird there, since "mamasan" is a Japanese term.

  14. #1389

    Bart

    Rest assured she was the one getting the bargain.
    I'm glad you felt the experience wasn't bad, but most Colombia veterans would call this experience horrible.
    Hang in there and work on your spanish, you'll be amazed how much better your encounters will be.

  15. #1388

    Club Rocio

    I tried calling a lady who gave me her number from Manila House, but unfortunately I didnt have sufficient Spanish to convince her to visit my apartment. I was working under the assumption that it´d be 260k pesos for 24 hours.

    Instead I hit up Club Rocio, one of the casas in the Bruselas neighborhood of Cartagena. I met a sweet-seeming hot lady named Carolina from Medellin and paid 280k for TLN. She seemed very amiable, and said she could stay til 4pm the next day, "no problem."

    While there I saw around 6 or so other women, many of them doable. There were also a pair of tall light skinned identical twins! The cat house´s house cat is named Natasha.

    Initially had a good time with Carolina, but she seemed to get tired of chatting and screwing. She kept pointing to the TV. Got to bed around 3am and she refused to have sex, saying it´d be better after 6am. Had sex once more in the morning and she left. Overall, not a bad experience, but somewhat disappointing. During dinner she tried to make it clear to me what a good deal I was getting. Short time is something like 150k, making 280k for TLN a bargain.

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