Cartagena Reports

[Mr Enternational]

I like your style. Its just gross how proud MrE is of himself for beating a dirt poor girl in a dirt poor country out of $10.

LOL. I did not beat anyone out of anything. I negotiated the same way people do with everything in non-Western countries. A fair exchange is no robbery. What did I give that Indriver guy for 8 hours to tour me and my girl around the Boyacá area in his nice new SUV? 180,000 pesos? My style is definitely not to pay a hooker damn near 1 million pesos per day to sit around and keep me company. Not my style at all.

Like I said when I was on the Seychelles trip. I NEGOTIATED for 140 euro to be on the same tour that other Western mfs that didn't negotiate spent 300 euro for. Ain't my fucking fault you Westerners think the first price is the final price and the cost of everything has to be compared to back home.

[AmorPorFavor]

That is a ways up the road from me, but a lot of craziness in that story. Do you really think the Dominican woman they claimed was running the ring was top of the pyramid? Don't you think the same kind of thing is going on running girls to Cartagena?

Anyway, finalized all the arrangements for my trip next month with the Venezolana I met on my first trip. Bought her ticket from Bucaramanga, I'll send her some shopping money in advance, and give her $250/ night for 5 nights. Nice hotel in Laguito, a trip to Bora Bora or whatever, party bus, and some good meals. I figure the whole thing with airfare will run $3-4 K for a week vacation, as much sex as my dick can handle, in a fun city I enjoy on its own merits. Or I could have stayed home and spent $3 K to spend four hours with Chloe. Call me crazy.

I wifed up with a hot chicas on both my trips to CTG for 4 days / nights each. Its a great time, more like a honeymoon than a monger trip taking them to dinner and stuff. Then took some random ones on the other days or took a break. They were both hot and asked for $250. Countered with $200 and they said quickly said ok. Plus you are springing for all their meals, drinks ect. So it adds up.

[AmorPorFavor]

How long did the negotiation take? Because at my billing rate that $10 is worth about 5 minutes of my time.

Seriously, if any attractive girl wanted to fuck me for $20 and I KNEW that was double her rate I would laugh, tell her to do her best job, and to get to work.

I like your style. Its just gross how proud MrE is of himself for beating a dirt poor girl in a dirt poor country out of $10.

[JayWonEm]

Speaking of that South Florida market. Did you see that huge bust they did on the Migrant X trafficking ring in Florida? They were flying them in from Latin America and operating out on Florida, they didn't realize that they can't do it like they are doing over here on Rosevelt Ave in Queens. I see allot of them on Listcrawler and Hot.com but I do not dear touch this shit on American soil and lose my entire career over 30 minutes of fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K30dMX6h15M

That is a ways up the road from me, but a lot of craziness in that story. Do you really think the Dominican woman they claimed was running the ring was top of the pyramid? Don't you think the same kind of thing is going on running girls to Cartagena?

Anyway, finalized all the arrangements for my trip next month with the Venezolana I met on my first trip. Bought her ticket from Bucaramanga, I'll send her some shopping money in advance, and give her $250/ night for 5 nights. Nice hotel in Laguito, a trip to Bora Bora or whatever, party bus, and some good meals. I figure the whole thing with airfare will run $3-4 K for a week vacation, as much sex as my dick can handle, in a fun city I enjoy on its own merits. Or I could have stayed home and spent $3 K to spend four hours with Chloe. Call me crazy.

[Mr Enternational]

How long did the negotiation take? Because at my billing rate that $10 is worth about 5 minutes of my time.

Seriously, if any attractive girl wanted to fuck me for $20 and I KNEW that was double her rate I would laugh, tell her to do her best job, and to get to work.

Negotiation takes 2 seconds. We are not negotiating a 20 year contract. We are simply quickly going back and forth on how much it would be to fuck right here right now. Just like last night. Chick is coming over and wants $42. I say $28. She says okay I am on the way. After we fucked I paid her by bank transfer. It is not brain surgery and does not take your 5 precious minutes.

If you walked into the best restaurant in town and they wanted to feed you for $40 and you knew you were getting the exact same meal that everyone at the other tables had and they paid $20, would you also laugh and say bring the plate? Probably not. But for pussy of course.

[Mr Enternational]

Why is my apartment costing 50% more than it did 2 years ago?

If it is in a tourist area then that would explain it. If it is in a local area and they know a foreigner is footing the bill then that also explains it. My apartment in Thailand has been the same price for 15 years. The taxi that I take from the airport has been the same price for 15 years. The initial asking price of chicks has skyrocketed. Not because there are less chicks or because the price of living has gone up. So it must be because stupid men are overpaying.

Why have hotel rates doubled in Colombia in the last 2 years? It must be because stupid men are overpaying because for you, that is all that can move prices.

No. It is because prices were lowered during covid when they had no customers. Now that people are back the prices have simply returned to where they were precovid for hotels. Freelance hookers have said we can double our price for these suckers. After they have paid for tickets and hotels, they are not going to want to go home with a dry dick no matter how much we charge them.

[Mr Enternational]

I know prepagos who have cars and businesses and outright bought apartments on envigado and poblado.

Yes. And they are the extremely rare exception, not the rule.

[Mr Enternational]

If you think demand does not affect pricing, then you know nothing about how markets work.

We are not talking about a market. We are talking about a variety of freelance hookers that come and go haphazardly and can change their price at will and according to who they are dealing with. If we are speaking about casas with set pricing, then we are talking about a market.

[JayWonEm]

I was in Ethiopia a week and a half ago and because someone wrote prices, them hoes did not get over on me. Someone said do not pay more than $10. One chick tried to get me for $20. I stuck with $10. She hemmed and hawed and went to $15 and $13, but I stuck to the $10 that I saw in the report. Finally, she realized I knew better.

How long did the negotiation take? Because at my billing rate that $10 is worth about 5 minutes of my time.

Seriously, if any attractive girl wanted to fuck me for $20 and I KNEW that was double her rate I would laugh, tell her to do her best job, and to get to work.

[Nypher]

Also consider that a lot of these "independent" girls work for agencies one way or another, and don't necessarily control their pricing. Last trip I contacted two mileroticos girls; they were both in the same building near Marbella. I ended up spending my entire trip with one of them and she told me she had to make a certain amount for the "company" she works for. Pretty sure an agency has a block of apartments in the same building and rotates chicas. No idea if any of those girls work the clubs when they're not booked.

I also speak enough Spanish to read the local review board (Doncolombia). You hear guys on there complaining about GPS and girls who want 400 K+. If they aren't fucking locals for less, do you think they give a shit about your opinion of market clearing prices and the wages of the average worker? Speaking of which, I do think there are girls who work in two markets. Maybe she does "un rato" for 80 K with locals, but it is in her incall in an area many of us wouldn't want to go. If she dresses up and goes to Centro looking for a gringo to bring her to his Airbnb in Bocagrande do you really think she is going to charge the same rate? By the way, that 80 K may be a day's wages for the local. Basically, unless you are a local or are embedded enough to pass, don't expect the same deal as the locals.

I know a lot of you are hung up on how good Cartagena "used to be", and how it is "ruined" now. There is a rule in finance called "ignore sunk costs". How good or bad someplace used to be, or what a girl used to charge, is irrelevant. We are in the present, and we have to make decisions based on the choices available to us now, not 5 or 10 years ago. If you think there are better places to visit because the girls are cheaper and you will overall have a better time, go there. Having said that, if you think paying $100 or even $150 for an hour with a good-looking chica is outrageous and the city is ruined, let me introduce you to Chloe and Zaya, who are charging $700 and $800 per hour, respectively, in the south Florida market. I'm not paying that, but if I come to Cartagena and pay a hot chica 600 K for an hour and anyone wants to tell me how I am overpaying I will get a good chuckle.

Speaking of that South Florida market. Did you see that huge bust they did on the Migrant X trafficking ring in Florida? They were flying them in from Latin America and operating out on Florida, they didn't realize that they can't do it like they are doing over here on Rosevelt Ave in Queens. I see allot of them on Listcrawler and Hot.com but I do not dear touch this shit on American soil and lose my entire career over 30 minutes of fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K30dMX6h15M

This is similar to another story (girls go where the money is). I knew a chica who I use to recommend to others because she was safe when she was in CTG. She made her way up NYC in 2023 February and got caught up in those smash and grab department stores robberies BLM style. Lost track of her because all of a sudden she too busy and don't have time (my low price in CTG is no where near what she is charging in NYC), but simultaneously posting that she at all the good hot spots in Manhattan. End of last year I get a random text from her she needs help, they have her in a detention center and she have to stay there until he works off the amount she stole and her asylum appointment date. Best of luck to her.

https://www.instagram.com/michinabebesita480/

Someone who I had recommended her to while they were in CTG and they had no problems with her and saw her multiple time without issue messaged me said a few months ago she scammed them out of money saying she needed money for and apartment and she was going to see them, They Zelle the money to the account she gave, never showed up, then blocked them.

Be careful out there gents, don't get scammed, scoped, or caught up in a sting.

[Elvis 2008]

The more people talk the more they tell on themselves and expose the exact type of chicas they are going for and they believe the good looking chicas with options are the same price as the ones down on their luck and desperate.

Yep.

The amount of time chicas I approached got their WhatsApp or Instagram, and through back and forth texting told me 800 K for the night and I told them no and moved on to the next one, only to see them a week or 2 weeks later posting pictures of statuses in Tulum, Cancun, Mexico City, Ecuador, Brazil, Punta Cana, Italy, Morocco, Croatia, Paris, Spain, etc, and the funny thing is right now as I'm typing this, these same exact girls are now in NYC, Chicago, Philly, DC, NJ, Houston, Miami and posting pictures of them being there.

And it says a lot about the high quality of the women you see that they know to go to places where they can earn more. What interests me is if Cartagena with its higher prices are going to attract others around the country to come to it kind of like the Hong Kong Club in Tijuana in Mexico.

[JayWonEm]

Never said these girls have the financial literacy to save their money but one thing is for sure they burn through a lot of money.

The higher end girls simply won't accept 200-300 k pesos. And this is well known but you only bring up examples of your experiences. But as others have pointed out as well there's different levels of playing fields. I know prepagos who have cars and businesses and outright bought apartments on envigado and poblado.

Also consider that a lot of these "independent" girls work for agencies one way or another, and don't necessarily control their pricing. Last trip I contacted two mileroticos girls; they were both in the same building near Marbella. I ended up spending my entire trip with one of them and she told me she had to make a certain amount for the "company" she works for. Pretty sure an agency has a block of apartments in the same building and rotates chicas. No idea if any of those girls work the clubs when they're not booked.

I also speak enough Spanish to read the local review board (Doncolombia). You hear guys on there complaining about GPS and girls who want 400 K+. If they aren't fucking locals for less, do you think they give a shit about your opinion of market clearing prices and the wages of the average worker? Speaking of which, I do think there are girls who work in two markets. Maybe she does "un rato" for 80 K with locals, but it is in her incall in an area many of us wouldn't want to go. If she dresses up and goes to Centro looking for a gringo to bring her to his Airbnb in Bocagrande do you really think she is going to charge the same rate? By the way, that 80 K may be a day's wages for the local. Basically, unless you are a local or are embedded enough to pass, don't expect the same deal as the locals.

I know a lot of you are hung up on how good Cartagena "used to be", and how it is "ruined" now. There is a rule in finance called "ignore sunk costs". How good or bad someplace used to be, or what a girl used to charge, is irrelevant. We are in the present, and we have to make decisions based on the choices available to us now, not 5 or 10 years ago. If you think there are better places to visit because the girls are cheaper and you will overall have a better time, go there. Having said that, if you think paying $100 or even $150 for an hour with a good-looking chica is outrageous and the city is ruined, let me introduce you to Chloe and Zaya, who are charging $700 and $800 per hour, respectively, in the south Florida market. I'm not paying that, but if I come to Cartagena and pay a hot chica 600 K for an hour and anyone wants to tell me how I am overpaying I will get a good chuckle.

[AndruwJones62]

I am wondering if anyob.

One knows if there are any casas in CTG like in MDE? If you do please let me know where to locate them.

[Elvis 2008]

True.

False. It has nothing to do with the demand in an economic sense.

If you think demand does not affect pricing, then you know nothing about how markets work.

It has everything to do with horny guys and their money burning a hole in their pocket, then the women thinking well he he gave me this much, so everyone should give me this much. Men have always been their own worst enemy.

Sigh. If a woman can get other men to pay her more, she was undercharging men. If she cannot, then her price is too high. The concept that women could be undercharging is a foreign concept to you.

Why is my apartment costing 50% more than it did 2 years ago? Why have hotel rates doubled in Colombia in the last 2 years? It must be because stupid men are overpaying because for you, that is all that can move prices.

[Sangnyc21]

Or what you think are the newest iPhones. How many rappers and athletes wear fake jewelry and folks are none the wiser? Chicks that I know that have authentic expensive phones have a trick that has bought it for them. How many posts on here you see about guys wanting to bring phones for chicks? Now imagine how many guys that are not on here are doing it.

When you show me that iPhone money in their bank account is when you will have a point. Clothes and makeup are cheap. Assuming someone is really raking it in by looking at what kind of phone they have? Come on man. You are smarter than that. Go to where they are staying then come back and report how they are making 7 million pesos. Reminds me of when Birdman said he didn't have shit, but that did not stop him from making the records saying he had shit. Who knew it was not true? Afterall, they showed a helicopter in the video. It is an illusion.

Never said these girls have the financial literacy to save their money but one thing is for sure they burn through a lot of money.

The higher end girls simply won't accept 200-300 k pesos. And this is well known but you only bring up examples of your experiences. But as others have pointed out as well there's different levels of playing fields. I know prepagos who have cars and businesses and outright bought apartments on envigado and poblado.