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  1. #50035

    Correcto

    Quote Originally Posted by Tasss  [View Original Post]
    These two posts made me LOL. I'm definitely observing many of the same things as you are.

    - General price inflation, including chica price inflation, if Davivienda ATMs now allowing 2 million COP withdrawals are any indication. Normal FB price seems to be 200 k + taxi now, with a few accepting lower.

    - Repeats from prior trips are often not worth it. So far I met with 3 from my prior trip. 2 got fatter, 2 of them became more hardcore / mercenary / gave worse service, all of them wanted more money than before. See attached screenshots.

    - Girls appear to be looking for different offers at the same time while negotiating with you. Ex: you give them the price, and they disappear for a few minutes before accepting your offer.

    - Please keep the FB scene an open secret and don't tell random dudes about FB. Keep the ones who don't do their homework on Tinder, clubs, SA.

    - Once a girl has been in the scene for some time and is above average looking, watch her price go up and service go down.
    Finished my second trip in first week of October. I have noticed and experienced same that things changed so quickly since I went in June. Just in 4 months. In June I paid 120 mil to 150 mil cop. Now they want 200 to 250 mil. Now some here will argue that everything went up around the globe and inflation and gas prices. But there's is more supply and competition if you will. Between vennies and paisa. So price should be down. Conversion from USD to Paisa is same. In centro cops are randomly stopping people to search. And in casas I saw more locals visiting then tourists. On the streets saw more Venezuelans selling candy everywhere.

    I am impressed that every body wears masks and some business would ask you to wear. I travelled by Metro a lot. All the bars were busy during week end. I find Medellin restaurants more cleaner and well kept then USA. Staff is always well dressed, they clean their counters and kitchen every few minutes.

  2. #50034
    If you search the comment history of those groups you will find that sort of finger pointing going back 10+ years.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonCarlos1234  [View Original Post]
    Other FB boards are saying much worse about an influx foreigners looking for cocaine and ho's asking for advice etc. Loose lips sink ships.

  3. #50033
    I 100% support the interest of many in La Isla, Gustos etc. I have some doubts about how fair it is to complain about big spenders in a business that directly caters to that market segment. I do understand that big spenders have a lot more impact in Lleras / Gustos / LaIsla etc than they do in the gritty world of Centro rats. I recently heard about new restrictions in Lleras aimed at reducing the number of providers. If the restrictions push them back to Plaza Botero or the late night San Diego scene, well so be it.

    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]
    I had heard and read before this trip that an influx of newbies was responsible in large part for the deterioration of the Medellin scene, but it was not until last week that I saw it with my own eyes. I always travel solo and usually steer clear of other gringos (except when I stayed at the Mansion as a newbie, when the camaraderie was extremely helpful and supportive). My latest choice of lodging. Provenza Lofts. Exposed me to other gringos more than usual.

    One of a group of three guys staying there saw the girls that I was having over when I came out to pay the hoes' taxis; he was on the front porch smoking a lot. Apparently they thought that my lineup was unbelievably smoking hot. They seemed to think that I was some sort of James Bond of mongering.

    I explained to them that I thought that my lineup for this trip was actually sub-par by Medellin standards, or at least compared to my previous trips. They asked where I was finding girls, as they seemed to think that Parque Lleras, Gusto, and Tinder were the best places to look (facepalm). I warned them to avoid Lleras and Tinder girls for security reasons and to avoid Gusto for price reasons. They were vaguely aware of Facebook as a source of hoes and had no knowledge of typical / historical pricing there.

    I ran into them again when I was catching my Uber to La Isla on my last Saturday night. They were aware of Fase II, but I explained to them that La Isla had the best talent in town. Lo and behold, they showed up at La Isla hours later..

  4. #50032

    Lets not purposefully fuck Medellin up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    Trying to share sensitive information on the hopes that it can benefit others can prove to be not worth the effort here, and you won't be seeing as much of that from me in the future. People can't see the broad strokes and get quagmired in the minutiae.

    My guy is confirmed Bogota policia. I also learned how they targeted me and no one here got it right and neither did I until I was told how. And then it made perfect sense.

    But there are too many swine around here for me to cast those pearls. I am done with that at least until I rest up some.

    And thank you for all the free advice but I never asked for any.

    People seem to forget I've never been happier. 'm happy as I can possibly be and happier than I ever thought I would be and I'm not trying to change a thing.

    And yes you are correct I don't give a shit about keeping a low profile. Still don't..
    Osteo,

    I've told you before, I really do enjoy reading your posts, its entertaining to read about your "over the top" and "on the edge" lifestyle. Personally I don't know you or care about you, and if your behavior leads to your demise, that was your choice, bless you either way. You post very regularly about your reckless behavior and your last adventure almost landed you in jail, but more importantly people who consistently engage in this type of reckless behavior could have a very real impact on how the game is played in Medellin. There is already a strong movement against sex tourism there in the city, you can look up the recent Medellin news clips on youtube. If we all start treating Medellin like its a game of Grand Theft Auto, eventually authorities are going to pay much more attention to the single gringos who are clearly there to take advantage of cheap drugs and prostitutes and have little respect or regard for anything else in the city. [Deleted by Admin]. This is going to just encourage more members / readers / mongers to act like assholes on vacation down there, until it gets to the point the authorities crackdown on prostitution and Medellin turns into Havana. A gringo can't even walk down the street with a girl in Havana without a cop harassing you. It also makes gringos targets, more wreckless gringoes will lead to more predatory scams to shake them down, especially in a poverty stricken nation. [Deleted by Admin] on the forum, etc.

    I sincerely do thank you for sharing the story about your shakedown, that is very valuable information which should be shared and puts a good warning out to other members about the possible dangers of Medellin. I am also being over cautious in my post and I apologize if it comes off as harsh, but I think its very important to state posts like these to remind people that Medellin is a great place, but things can change quickly in just a few years.

    If we all play the game safely, the game will be there for us longer and its a safer, cheaper, more enjoyable game to play. You as a player will also last longer. As I have said before, keep your head down and enjoy the ride. The forum should focus on the sharing of information for the safety and enjoyment of us mongers. Not a tool used to contribute to our own demise.[Deleted by Admin]

    I was warned by a moderator before for a similar post. The moderator claimed I am discouraging people from posting. I am not discouraging people from posting, I am promoting monger safety. None of us want to end up in the situation Osteo was in, and it should be stated here for all readers to see. I don't see anything wrong with my post, and hopefully it is allowed to be posted.

  5. #50031
    Quote Originally Posted by DonCarlos1234  [View Original Post]
    Other FB boards are saying much worse about an influx foreigners looking for cocaine and ho's asking for advice etc. Loose lips sink ships.
    Its sad what's happening in Medellin now. However, I really can't blame the mongers as many other destinations in the world are either closed or not up to their pre-covid standards. I remember my great times in the past in destinations like China, Singapore, Argentina, etc. which in their day attracted numerous hoards of mongers, now all gone well before covid. Will Colombia join the list?

  6. #50030
    Quote Originally Posted by DonCarlos1234  [View Original Post]
    Other FB boards are saying much worse about an influx foreigners looking for cocaine and ho's asking for advice etc. Loose lips sink ships.
    The sky is always falling according to someone. People have been claiming that Medellin is doomed for as long as I've been on ISG. The same claims happen everywhere over everything. Look at every US election. No matter who wins one group is convinced the world is about to end and another believes it's going to be all puppies and rainbows.

    Twenty years ago I was a strip club aficionado. In my favorite local club everyone knew me. I wasn't a big spender, but I was a dependable customer. I was always friendly and polite and treated everyone right. Every now and then some group would come in and make it rain. The newer girls would flock to that table hoping to have a big night. The better dancers mostly kept to their regulars, because they knew that that group wouldn't be back, but the regulars were there every week.

    Right now there are crowds making it rain. In another 6 months they'll be throwing their money somewhere else.

  7. #50029

    First visit 10/31 - 11/5 tips

    Hey everyone,

    First I wanted to thank everyone for their reports, I feel like I know the area already.

    I am visiting Medellin from 10/31 - 11/5.

    I picked hotel Duparc because of location but was thinking of switching to energy living, thoughts?

    I am 35 lots of tats and have pretty good success in dr picking up local girls in the mall. Is the mall a good spot to get WhatsApp in Medellin?

    Is Fase dos or la Isla worth it?

    Are the escorts listed online real pics usually, or cat fish?

    I am a noobie so any advice you have?

    I read online that I can buy a prepaid phone in the airport, is that true? I have a burner phone in the states but not sute if it will work there.

    Best clubs to visit? I read gusto and luxury?

    I will be sure to post a in depth trip report. I use take me back to Sosua for DR, I promise I will here.

    Is mansion worth it? I was going to book 2 nights there so then I have access to it, but I already booked my full stay at Duparc, is that even worth it?

  8. #50028

    Now you know why some of us don't give advice or tips here.

    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]
    I had heard and read before this trip that an influx of newbies was responsible in large part for the deterioration of the Medellin scene, snip

    Unfortunately there was another group of Middle Eastern-looking guys who decided to "make it rain" - and not in COP, but in USD (facepalm). This USD rain lasted an unusually long period of time, as they stretched it out in dribs and drabs, and it consumed the attention of about half of the girls in the club at the time. I had only had two sessions at the club by that point in the night and was still looking for a third, but I could not get it because the USD rain distracted so many of the girls, including a few of my candidates. The irony is that the girls probably could have made more money if they had tried to work for back room sessions with or at least get girlie drinks out of other guys, instead of chasing the small bills that these clowns were throwing around. And, as far as I could tell, these Middle Eastern-looking guys did not even try to fuck any of the girls.

    Suffice is to say that my next Colombia trip will be to Bogota or Cali.

    This is why we can't have nice things.
    Other FB boards are saying much worse about an influx foreigners looking for cocaine and ho's asking for advice etc. Loose lips sink ships.
    Last edited by DonCarlos1234; Today at 10:57. Reason: spelling

  9. #50027
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    That is the point that there is nothing to gain by lying.

    Hey, this is not my fight. They are using the translator so L69 could have misunderstood.

    The other way to run the scam is to provide a fake ID to an underage girl, then bust the offender in the room with real ID..
    The good ok' switcharoo. A restaurant on the beach in Cartagena got me with this BS. They gave me a menu, I ordered. Then when the tab came out, it was 3 x the price, I asked for the menu again, then they gave me one with 3 x the price of the original menu Jajajja.

  10. #50026
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    And this last part will sound insane because I'm giving advice about this but it's something I've said before in the past. If you ever stuck in a legal situation in another country it doesn't matter where and you have the opportunity to get out short and quick always take that opportunity, do not ever prolong it, don't try to stand up for what is right it's misguided, you always end up paying more in the end.
    I think that is great advice anywhere you are.

    I have been in CTG twice with my gal, and she is from there. She has issues with her mother, and we passed by her place. I said do you want to say Hi? She said no. Sure enough, someone caught us and posted it on social media, and her mother was tipped off.

    Next time we are there, her mother sees us and she texts my gal later. And what does CTG have like a million people, and I am there for like 10 days total? Hell, we ran into three of her friends just being out and about.

    My point is if I could not stay anonymous with my gal for 10 days, what was the chances you were seeing all those women, doing all those drugs, and buying them stuff like scooters? It seems like someone was bound to take notice and try to make a play.

    I used to go to strip clubs about once a week. I ran into some bouncer type one time that I could not for the life of me place, and he ran through every woman I had been with and what my rep was at a few of the clubs. I was like, "And who the fuck are you?" I am just not sure how anonymous anyone can really be anymore.

  11. #50025
    Quote Originally Posted by MedMad  [View Original Post]
    https://youtu.be/Nptkz8K9A18

    They are in the thumbnail, also at 2:01.
    The street behind the church # 51-30. Hotel Channel. She stands at the bottom. Fake boobs. Pretty face and smile. 5 foot. She would not go to my hotel around the corner and I have bias against using that hotel. Do not remember her asking price.

  12. #50024
    To be clear, I am not recommending this.

    But I am sure you know, if you wish to get a little pay-back on this cop who basically stole from you, there are very cheap and easy ways to take care of it. Don't think I haven't been tempted on occasion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    Trying to share sensitive information on the hopes that it can benefit others can prove to be not worth the effort here, and you won't be seeing as much of that from me in the future. People can't see the broad strokes and get quagmired in the minutiae.

    My guy is confirmed Bogota policia. I also learned how they targeted me and no one here got it right and neither did I until I was told how. And then it made perfect sense.

    But there are too many swine around here for me to cast those pearls. I am done with that at least until I rest up some.

    And thank you for all the free advice but I never asked for any.

    People seem to forget I've never been happier. 'm happy as I can possibly be and happier than I ever thought I would be and I'm not trying to change a thing.

    And yes you are correct I don't give a shit about keeping a low profile. Still don't.

    But how careless was I really? I chatted this girl up for 3 days before I fucked her in El Centro, and then only after I confirmed that she had a genuine cedula that showed she was 19. Then finally I took her back to my hotel.

    Then I got stung in a way that someone here who should know said he's never heard of happening in Medellin before, only in Bogota. Hmmmmm, wait a minute, my guy is from Bogota. So am I among the first or possibly even the first guy to fall prey to this scam in Medellin, who knows?

    I would say not unexpected and perhaps not a surprise if someone was going to get hit it would be me, because of my high profile, but I would not say careless or stupid, but that mostly a matter of opinion.

    The main lesson I learned directly related to the event was that just because a girl is of legal age that's not enough to protect you in the short-term. You may win the court battle but it's not worth the aggravation.

    The biggest lesson I learned overall is the surprisingly high number of numbnuts who post here. Projection is a rampant defense mechanism here. I'm not trying to change one thing in my life. I'm happy with my life and happy with how things are.

    Finally I'm not trying to have the last word but I suggest we drop this topic. This dead horse has been flogged into dogmeat.

  13. #50023
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    I also learned how they targeted me and no one here got it right and neither did I until I was told how. And then it made perfect sense.
    But how careless was I really? I chatted this girl up for 3 days before I fucked her in El Centro, and then only after I confirmed that she had a genuine cedula that showed she was 19. Then finally I took her back to my hotel.
    The biggest lesson I learned overall is the surprisingly high number of numbnuts who post here. Projection is a rampant defense mechanism here. I'm not trying to change one thing in my life. I'm happy with my life and happy with how things are.
    More careful than most, I suspect Osteo. More careful than I, that's for sure. Jeje.

    Would love to hear the real story behind one day.

    Yes, there are plenty of "numbnuts " here. Don't like to paint everyone with the same brush, but it seems that there is a common trait among USAns. If they don't agree with you or don't like what you say, they insult you. They tell you you're dumb before they even understand the situation, then they go on to tell you how you should have dealt with it. Totally obnoxious.

    I know it's a generalistaion. Some of my best friends are from USA, it's just a too common theme from their culture.

    Anyway, stay well and recharge.

  14. #50022
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    Trying to share sensitive information on the hopes that it can benefit others can prove to be not worth the effort here, and you won't be seeing as much of that from me in the future. People can't see the broad strokes and get quagmired in the minutiae.

    My guy is confirmed Bogota policia. I also learned how they targeted me and no one here got it right and neither did I until I was told how. And then it made perfect sense.

    But there are too many swine around here for me to cast those pearls. I am done with that at least until I rest up some.

    And thank you for all the free advice but I never asked for any.

    People seem to forget I've never been happier. 'm happy as I can possibly be and happier than I ever thought I would be and I'm not trying to change a thing.

    And yes you are correct I don't give a shit about keeping a low profile. Still don't.

    But how careless was I really? I chatted this girl up for 3 days before I fucked her in El Centro, and then only after I confirmed that she had a genuine cedula that showed she was 19. Then finally I took her back to my hotel. .
    Glad you are back home Ostee. I try to keep my mouth shut around here because I'm a fucking noob so I just quietly RTFT everyday and try to remain in lurking status but one thing that's been bugging me that I can't shake is the picture someone somehow secretly managed to take of you in a restaurant a while back. Could have been nothing, but it bugged me then and it's starting to bug me even more now. Really hope there isn't anyone outside this forum that knows more about your adventures than we do. Anyway, I don't want to freak you out and you know what you're doing so I won't say any more. Always appreciate your contributions to the forum - - I've learned a lot from you and although I'll miss your epic tales I'm glad you're back home so you can keep low for a bit, rejuvenate, and most importantly relax. Take care & stay safe!

  15. #50021
    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately there was another group of Middle Eastern-looking guys who decided to "make it rain" - and not in COP, but in USD (facepalm). This USD rain lasted an unusually long period of time, as they stretched it out in dribs and drabs, and it consumed the attention of about half of the girls in the club at the time. I had only had two sessions at the club by that point in the night and was still looking for a third, but I could not get it because the USD rain distracted so many of the girls, including a few of my candidates. The irony is that the girls probably could have made more money if they had tried to work for back room sessions with or at least get girlie drinks out of other guys, instead of chasing the small bills that these clowns were throwing around. And, as far as I could tell, these Middle Eastern-looking guys did not even try to fuck any of the girls.
    I'm friends on FB and follow a bunch of Medellin Semi-Pros / THOTS / Talent and for the past few months a bunch of them have been posting pictures of themselves in Abu Dhabi and Dubai. I would not be surprised if those guys are importing their port-a-potties from South America now.

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