Medellin Reports

[Knowledge]

60 or older are entitled to a senior citizen discount. You still have to present ID to get one of those. Excellent advice about loading the card for multiple trips. It still makes me shake my head how often people at the height of rush hour block the turnstiles while they fish for their civica then swipe it to find out they don't have enough to pay the fare. They will then finally get out of the way and go wait on a line to recharge their card, something they could have done at any number of places on the way to the station. I never let my civica get below 50 k pesos so I can recharge it at my leisure and never have worry about being that guy waving a 2,000 peso note and asking somebody on line to swipe me in.

This used to be the case and it was a pain in the ass.

You can get a Civica card at any Metro Station or Bus Line Station, but they cost I believe 6,000 Pesos for the card, and then you can load it up at kiosks or at the ticket offices at the Stations. The Civica card will be green and say Al Portador in the lower right hand corner. I also have a grey Civica card, this was one that I registered at San Antonio and it says Eventual on it. You cannot use either card to make purchases at say an EXITO, they are used solely for transport.

You will also see some riders using Bancolombia debit cards which are enabled to use the Medellin transportation system.

So anyone thinking of riding the Metro can get one at any station no ID required, just the fee they charge, and it took them awhile to figure out they could make money selling the cards..

[Surfer500]

Jajaja, just kidding. Your reasoning is faulty. If you were willing to pay her $28 where you met her, what she gets or doesn't get at a different venue is irrelevant.

In your case, too much knowledge created an artificial conflict in your own noggin about perceived value. But hey, your call. With what you supposedly knew about her kept you from pulling the trigger because then you would not be able to enjoy yourself. You mind-fucked yourself, which is different from mental masturbation, jajajajaja. If you were saying that you did not believe she was worth $28 under any circumstance, then your behavior would be consistent, but I don't think that's what you meant.

Have you ever been to Pattaya in Thailand, and know the venues.

His comparison was akin to what girls are asking for between Parque Lleras and Centro who work both venues, but in this case, between what the girls charge on Beach Road, which I would call the "Centro" of Pattaya, and freelancers in Pattaya, like in Lleras.

[Knowledge]

The 1st and 15th of each month are payday for many here. The so-called informal economy means rent and many monthly bills are paid in cash. Also, Colombians pay bills via the ATMs, so they tend to conduct several transactions at a time compared to the quick withdrawals foreigners usually do. After I am in and out of an ATM in less than one minute, I'm often asked if the machine is working because the Colombians don't understand how anyone can complete their business so quickly. Long story short, you should avoid the 1st and 15th so you don't waste vacation time waiting on lines.

My god, what's up with the ATM run today? Or is that considered normal in el Centro? I couldn't find any without massive queue and lots of them were just straight out of money. I assume this is due to pay day and Friday? I sure hope so. Will try tomorrow.

It's my second day in Medellin (and Latin America in general). On the first day I was stunned by the amount of foot traffic, loudness and chaos in el Centro. Honking, vendors yelling on speakers, whistling, motorbikes coming from every direction but sky. The the amount of near miss traffic accidents I saw so far is mindboggling. I learned I should always expect incoming motorbike, even on the sidewalk behind me. It feels like I need to have all my wits about not get run or stepped over while walking around. Hopefully I'll get used to it after a while. Oh and the traffic lights are just a suggestion. Haven't seen so many sneaker shops at one place too...

[Osteoknot]

Wow you are so cheap. Those prices are too low. Those girls are not going for those prices. If anything you must be using that I am poor tactic like the guy that was just posted begging for food.

For him to admit that he pays anything for poontang is an accomplishment. We have to give him time and be patient. Baby steps. He brings value to this forum.

[Surfer500]

If you want to get the Civica card, you need to go to San Antonio station with your passport, on the second floor, enter the station, it's on the left. There is always a line.

This used to be the case and it was a pain in the ass.

You can get a Civica card at any Metro Station or Bus Line Station, but they cost I believe 6,000 Pesos for the card, and then you can load it up at kiosks or at the ticket offices at the Stations. The Civica card will be green and say Al Portador in the lower right hand corner. I also have a grey Civica card, this was one that I registered at San Antonio and it says Eventual on it. You cannot use either card to make purchases at say an EXITO, they are used solely for transport.

You will also see some riders using Bancolombia debit cards which are enabled to use the Medellin transportation system.

So anyone thinking of riding the Metro can get one at any station no ID required, just the fee they charge, and it took them awhile to figure out they could make money selling the cards.

Also, when buying a Civica card, you should load it up with more than a couple of rides worth.

Sometimes the lines to reload the Civica can take several minutes, especially at the Poblado Metro Station during rush hour.

[JjBee62]

Imagine you are a solid 9 or 10 in Colombia.

All you need is OnlyFans or an FB account where you advertise "private" videos for $$.

Parque Lleras doesn't even compute for you.

It takes a little bit more than that, but you're essentially correct. It's not difficult for a good looking girl in Colombia to make 5 million cop monthly online.

[JjBee62]

I've met similar types and worse in Thailand and Philippines. Guy in Manila was one of the worst turned out bums I ever saw anywhere. Met a plastic bottle collector in Pattaya. Dope, girl, mental problems. Awful thing Colombians sitting down to a meal and that bum comes along and can't even beg in Spanish.

I had an obvious druggie try to beg money with a sob story about needing a doctor. He was speaking in Spanish, but I'm pretty sure he was a gringo. What sealed my impression is, when I interrupted his story and told him I don't care he got belligerent and started yelling and cursing me in English.

I guess if you want to be homeless, Medellin has a good climate for it.

[Osteoknot]

If you want to get the Civica card, you need to go to San Antonio station with your passport, on the second floor, enter the station, it's on the left. There is always a line.

If you just want the card that loads metro (including autobus) rides onto the card, you don't need a passport. One is green, one is gray, I can't remember which one is which. The one you get with your passport also allows you to use the bikes, maybe other perks. For example, you can use a Civica card to make purchases in Exito like a debit card. And I think you can get the basic card at places other than San Antonio, I want to say at any station? But I am not sure about that. I have a green card and a gray card in my possession now, both were given to me by chicas who live here. I can recharge both of them with cash at the machines in the metro stations, if they have the machines. Clear as mud?? Jajajajajaaa. Welcome to Colombia.

[Combo]

You're right.

I can remember when Parque Lleras was a family place and an upscale Medellin hangout.

Not a hookerville like now.

Upscale girls began to walk about, selling their wares.

And then more came, but usually upscale types.

Slowly but surely, and now abundantly so, there's every type out there.

To be honest, I miss the days of Parque Lleras as a refuge, to check out and talk with regular girls.

It is what it is though, the ever changing world.

Ha! I remember when you could meet normal girls in Parque Lleras (and I don't mean "semi-pros"). These days a normal Paisa girl wouldn't want to be seen talking to a Gringo in or near Parque Lleras.

[LoveItHere69]

She wanted my usual $28 disco freelance price. But then I started looking at the pics on her profile and noticed some of them were from the beach area where chicks go for $11-$14. I was thinking what if I give this chick $28 and later find out she works the beach. I would be hot to have paid double. So I didn't pull the trigger.

Wow you are so cheap. Those prices are too low. Those girls are not going for those prices. If anything you must be using that I am poor tactic like the guy that was just posted begging for food.

[Nounce]

..I agreed to after some time examining her cleavage. Soon after she proposed to "make love" for 80, I already decided I'm in when I bought that beer but countered to 70 anyway just to play a bit, she agreed. I asked for "oral sin condon" which she agreed for extra 50..

FYI: I have never been quoted more than 70 mil there. I did pay 30 mil more once for BBBJ. For tip, they seem to be happy with coins that I gave them.

If you want to get the Civica card, you need to go to San Antonio station with your passport, on the second floor, enter the station, it's on the left. There is always a line.

[L00PY]

Then I went on a walk down the street with a row of palm and park with a monument, fountain and the massive church at the of it. Some locals were standing around in the park, one of them extended a fist to bump while I was passing. Not sure what was the the meaning of that but I bumped without changing my pace and saying anything and continued on my way. The street behind the church seemed run down and empty so I decided to turn around and continue to look for supermarket. Found a well stocked Exito and did some shopping, spent like 10 minutes waiting in the queue.

I'm guessing that you walked up to Parque de Bolivar. It's a mixed bag of locals there, mostly harmless, but I'm sure if you flashed some cash or bling, there's a good chance you'd get robbed. There are a couple of casas right there too, a block or two east of the church. I prefer the Exito Junin. There are a couple ATMs in that area there too. It's a nice, safe, shopping area where you won't stand out, something you don't want to do after visiting an ATM.

I also walked down Avenida de Griff earlier but turned back after while at some small park with lots of homeless since it seemed too sketchy and the further I went the more heads seemed to turn.

As you head west down De Greiff, you'll hit Radual No. 3 where there are also a bunch of streetwalkers. It does get a little sketch past there down De Greiff, but it's not too bad during the middle of the day. If you go even further, you'll find the Plaza Minorista, which is a very large food market of sorts, which I personally found interesting.

[Osteoknot]

Boy that exact shit fucked with me today here in Thailand. I met a chick with ass walking down the street. I turned my motorbike around to go talk to her. Got her app ID and later on sent messages. She wanted my usual $28 disco freelance price. But then I started looking at the pics on her profile and noticed some of them were from the beach area where chicks go for $11-$14. I was thinking what if I give this chick $28 and later find out she works the beach. I would be hot to have paid double. So I didn't pull the trigger.

Jajaja, just kidding. Your reasoning is faulty. If you were willing to pay her $28 where you met her, what she gets or doesn't get at a different venue is irrelevant.

In your case, too much knowledge created an artificial conflict in your own noggin about perceived value. But hey, your call. With what you supposedly knew about her kept you from pulling the trigger because then you would not be able to enjoy yourself. You mind-fucked yourself, which is different from mental masturbation, jajajajaja. If you were saying that you did not believe she was worth $28 under any circumstance, then your behavior would be consistent, but I don't think that's what you meant.

[Knowledge]

There were not as many girls in general back in those days. Families would still go to Lleras for Sunday dinner. Little by little, the girls started working a stroll between the middle of the park, the bars on the side streets, and of course the Juan Valdez cafe because it was one of a few spots the Manson crew would congregate off the Mansion grounds. It's all good.

Well I guess I am mistaken, but up until five years ago I had never seen any who work Centro in Lleras. I believe you, so I guess the percentage of those working both venues has increased significantly over the past five years.

[Osteoknot]

That's precisely what you have been doing against. For the last 5 years, you have been calling for mongers to come to Medellin. You gave the description and instruction everyday. You couldn't stop writing a post for a day. The result is the increase in the price and decline in the quality in Centro and Poblado.

I had no idea we were in the company of someone so powerful. So your take on it is that his writings about his experiences as an El Centro Rat proved to be so tempting that he created his own separate demand for people to make specific travel plans to come here? Now that is some persuasive writing. Funny, when I read him I often think how pathetic his life must be, skulking in the shadows and low-balling some of the cheapest putas on the planet. But he seems happy so I generally keep that opinion to myself except when needed to make a point against ridiculousness, such as yours.

What percentage of people who come here to monger do you believe to be regular readers of ISG? Surely, to make the kind of statement you did you must have some sort of data or inside knowledge. Please, by all means, share those insights. And of that percentage, you believe that readership holds Surfer Dude to be the main influencer on this Website? Am I close to correct? BTW, prices have not gone up in the past five years when you correct for inflation and the exchange rate. As far as the decline in quality, some would agree with you, others would say in depends on your personal bias.

Obviously, you have a bone to pick about something to do with what is going on in Medellin for the past five years. I suggest you reassess your targets. Usually when people blame others for their own unhappiness, a good place to start is the hallway mirror, Senile Turtle, jajajaja.