Medellin Reports

[YippieKayay]

Its full monger mode for me. Just arrived and did all the usual first day crap like stocking up on booze, toiletries and what not. Lleras is not too busy. Gusto has about a half a dozen prepagos. A couple of them pretty aggressive.

I lined up two dates tomorrow. Both agreed to 150 k. One at 10 am and one at 1 pm. I only fucked up by getting a hotel room this time but I will see how they react.

So I guess 150 k is totally normal pricing. I always thought 200 k was the new price.

[CPlusPlus]

Again, my idea of airbnb, especially if you rent a whole house / apartment is that you basically take ownership, is like when you rent a whole house but you don't own it, you take ownership of the home and can do as you please (except of course damaging the property) again I was not mad that the host kicked me out of her home, I am more pissed of the review and how it will affect me to get future apartments. I like Airbnb and doing the apartment route as opposed to hotel because it is a lot more private, I cam yes bring pros without raising as much eyebrows as I would at a busy hotel, also being able to smoke pot in peace as many hotels don't allow smoking, far less with mariguana. So yeah, hopefully I will still be able to rent apartments through airbnb if not I guess I will have to make a second account or something like that.

[JjBee62]

I don't know if you are being argumentative just to engage in an argument, or if you don't understand comments you and others post. I was responding to your statement that said "You are paying to be a guest in someone's home. " The original poster said he and his buddy rented an entire apartment, so it was not the host's home. It does not matter if the host lived next door, the same city, or the same continent, the host was not living in that apartment so it was not her home. The situation being discussed did not involve the original poster being a guest in someone's home.

There's a third possibility. Maybe you don't understand. I'll try to use small words.

If you own a home and you rent that home to another person, they are a guest in your home. If you live in a different home, they are still a guest in your home. If you live in another city or another country, they are still a guest in your home. No matter how many homes you own, each one is your home and each person staying in each home is a guest in your home.

Are you still with me?

Most AirBnB hosts own only a few rental properties. Many live nearby, others are renting properties that they inherited from family members. Many others are just faceless investors. No matter what their connection to the property, they have an interest in what goes on there. What happens there can affect their income. It can affect their reputation. It can affect their friendships.

Because guest behavior can affect the owner, the owner has rules. Some have lots of rules. Some have few rules. Some have rules that aren't written because they don't think anyone will break those rules. Their home, their rules, their rights.

Those rules don't disappear because the owner is 1000 miles away. Those rules don't change when the owner is sleeping, or during a full moon. Those rules the guest is expected to respect.

Have I lost you yet?

A person with some sense should question their own behavior. You should ask yourself "how will other people feel about my activities?" Most of us do this. We don't pick up a prostitute and bring her home for Christmas dinner. We know that certain behavior needs to be kept from the eyes of friends and family.

Why do people, when they travel to another country, suddenly assume that all the hidden behavior is now perfectly okay? Why is the AirBnB host a bad person because they won't allow things that you won't allow in your own home?

Colombia (and many other places) is a great country. You can have a great time. Beautiful places, beautiful women and the prices are very reasonable. You can have a great time and still treat the people who live here with respect.

If each monger who came to Colombia showed respect for the people there wouldn't be a "say no to sex tourism" campaign, there would be a lot less issues and everyone would have a better time.

[Knowledge]

The carrera 46 address is accurate. The place is also known as "Andromeda". It's pretty good, they usually have a tout out front to grab guys headed toward Zandaly around the corner. It's two steep flights up from the street so it might be a problem for some.

Casa de Fantasia.

Calle 57 # 50-19.

Medellin.

Fantasia.

Cra 46 # 57 A-21.

Medellin.

Not sure how current that list is though.

[Knowledge]

Different strokes for different folks.

While according to my standards and generally speaking colombianas are prettier dominicanas have better bodies, more curves. Dominicanas are more expressive while colombianas are more sophisticated. My first experience with colombianas was years ago inside Campo Alegre in Curaao. I sampled four pretty colombianas during my short cruise ship stop and got interested in visiting the country. Still I can't rank colombianas or Dominicanas better than the others since my experience was satisfying in both countries.

[BoricuaOnline]

Great report as usual BO, but you know I have to do it to you. Colombia or DR?

While according to my standards and generally speaking colombianas are prettier dominicanas have better bodies, more curves. Dominicanas are more expressive while colombianas are more sophisticated. My first experience with colombianas was years ago inside Campo Alegre in Curaçao. I sampled four pretty colombianas during my short cruise ship stop and got interested in visiting the country. Still I can't rank colombianas or Dominicanas better than the others since my experience was satisfying in both countries.

[Fun Luvr]

Yet, the post that started this conversation involved an AirBnB owner who did live in the same city (Bogota). So, it is exactly the situation being discussed.

I don't know if you are being argumentative just to engage in an argument, or if you don't understand comments you and others post. I was responding to your statement that said "You are paying to be a guest in someone's home. " The original poster said he and his buddy rented an entire apartment, so it was not the host's home. It does not matter if the host lived next door, the same city, or the same continent, the host was not living in that apartment so it was not her home. The situation being discussed did not involve the original poster being a guest in someone's home.

[Stinky Squid]

So, I made it to Medellin.

I never managed to book at Hotel M, because they are kind of incapable. I sent email and when I wanted to confirm they didn't reply back. Then I called and the guy told me to send email. Then someone called me back on my voicemail and whatever.

Another member recommended I try Hotel Kong at Calle 55 x Carrera 43, centro. This is a love hotel that you can book on Booking dot com. I booked that super cheap. I think they only do during the week not on weekends. This here is not comparable with the Brazilian motel. I never understand why they wouldn't put the full mirror set around the bed. But my room has a bathtub / Jacuzzi right here. The place can be loud as they have full sound systems in every room. When I came in one guy was doing it and it sounded like a disco was going on at that side of the building.

I am only here as a fall-back option. But it gave me the chance to scout out downtown. During the day time and early evening it is how downtowns are, lots of shopping and open air markets. In the early evening the whole place turns into a brothel it seems. Tons of chicas walking and standing idly about. Most of them leave me with disgust though. I tried to get turned on, but I have a hard time. Even in Panama at Habano's Cafe, the way the putas are presenting themselves is turning me off. Because it's all so fake. Once you are with them and you haven't specified everything exactly the nagging and negating starts. No interest. The street lingering ones are annoying and really ruin their own business. Because they stand in group and when you want to get a better view of one, the others get in the way. And when they start hollering at me, that gives me the rest for me to just walk away.

I saw a very curious scheme around the Museum park. There are really young ones who "sell lollipops" obviously it is about chuipeta. There was one girl who got my attention and I started to want her. Cute face and now I am thinking she might even have been some months pregnant. I approached her and asked what she is "offering" with those lollipops. Unfortunately again the others barged in and ruined it with lewd talking. I asked that girl what her age was, she replied 18. My next question would have been if she could prove it. But all that annoying gacking of the others turned me off and I walked away. I am sure with those lollipop girls you need to check the papers three times and do have the hotel check them too. It might even be a trap as they seemed to approach particularly older men. Oh, I forgot, when I looked in the girl's face up close I got turned off. May be without the other's gacking I could have appreciated the strange traces as exotic, but it was to tense a situation.

That is the problem there, you can't really sit down and drink a beer while watching the girls go by. You have to walk around. Everyone is walking around, I saw some other nervous gringos on the hunt.

I didn't feel unsafe at all, but then I am a lot in Rio and to me Medellin and Bogota appear well more civilized, almost European. The country side of Medellin is beautiful by the way, as you come down from the airport, it is like you drive through Switzerland. Oh yes, and the airport bus was very convenient. I just took the one to Centro until the final stop, and then hopped into a Taxi for the last mile to Hotel Kong.

Now I am resting and later will check out Fase Dos and Luna Lunera. Just to have seen it once. My goa ls to bring a girl back for the night to use the jacuzzi and like I said, I want to have one in my bed every night. I love to wake up to a warm and soft girl.

For the rest of my days I have lined up a multi day blind date. Unfortunately I didn't take the time to plan it out earlier so it failed because of last minute. My style is being picked up from the airport. That failed. But now I have that girl locked down for the rest of the 3 nights until I leave. I dunno, I suck like that. I am not good with the short time, I enjoy more something steady. We'll see how it goes with her.

[JjBee62]

Almost all, if not all, of the airbnb's guys on this site are renting are not someone's home. They are apartments specifically for short-term rentals. Many of the owners don't even live in the city where the apartment is located. I can understand your POV if someone is renting a room from the residents of the apartment / house, but that is not the situation being discussed.

Yet, the post that started this conversation involved an AirBnB owner who did live in the same city (Bogota). So, it is exactly the situation being discussed.

I assume you've been in a hotel. Do you know who stays in hotels? Travelers. They are there for a few days or weeks and then they are gone. The people paying for the rooms are constantly changing. While they might write a bad review, their effect on the hotel is minimal, especially a large, established hotel with hundreds of reviews. The hotel probably has a guest policy, but it's not a big deal.

Have you ever lived in a condo or townhouse? Almost all the residents are there for many years. They don't move to a new apartment every 6 to 10 days. If there are 4 or 5 short term rentals in a building of 100 apartments, the short term owners are grossly outnumbered. The other residents have the power to cause serious problems. If you own those 4 apartments and the administration is pressured to require 3 month minimum leases for any rental units, or administration fees are raised for short term rentals, or they charge a fee to register short term renters, your AirBnB investment just went south.

If you continue to say "fuck you" to the AirBnB hosts, you and everyone else who wants to bring someone back, will lose that option.

It's not difficult. Ask first. If you ask first you don't get a bad renter review. If you ask first you don't find out that the girl you're ready to fuck isn't getting in to the building. If you ask first you don't end up paying for another taxi and a short time hotel and another taxi and an extra tip for the girl because you wasted 30 minutes arguing with security.

If you ask first you don't cause another AirBnB host to refuse to rent to gringos because they don't respect the owner's rules.

[Wolf662]

There is a MP in centro named Fantasia according to this link. http://colombia.adultsearch.com/mede.../fantasia/2063.

Casa de Fantasia.

Calle 57 # 50-19.

Medellin.

Fantasia.

Cra 46 # 57 A-21.

Medellin.

Not sure how current that list is though.

[Fun Luvr]

... AirBnB isn't just a rental. You are paying to be a guest in someone's home. As a guest, if you want to do something that is not normally accepted behavior, it's your responsibility to ask the host. If you crap on people's floor, they have a right to be upset, even if they never said "don't crap on the floor. ".

Almost all, if not all, of the airbnb's guys on this site are renting are not someone's home. They are apartments specifically for short-term rentals. Many of the owners don't even live in the city where the apartment is located. I can understand your POV if someone is renting a room from the residents of the apartment / house, but that is not the situation being discussed.

[JjBee62]

Do you mean you will not bring a girl into the building if she looks like a prepago / hooker?

Define "looks like a prepago. " Some of the models dress very sexy. Even my roommate often wears clothes that would raise a lot of eyebrows in the US. But none of them are prepagos. They are in the building for a purpose: recording video, photo shoot, meeting with one of the bosses who lives in the building, training, or just visiting another model who lives in the building.

What I mean is that I won't bring a prepago into the building. If I'm paying someone for sex, I'm not bringing them home with me. How they look or dress matter.

[Chicafan]

I can walk through the gate of my building with anybody. The porterias will just wave me through. I walk in with different models on a semi-regular basis. But I won't bring a prepago into the building.

Do you mean you will not bring a girl into the building if she looks like a prepago / hooker?

[JjBee62]

Damn. Strong points by both Jj and YK. Some guys get so wrapped up in the hobby that they begin to consider it normal. Well it may be their normal, but everybody does not have the same idea of normal. Commom sense ain't so common; that is why contracts exist. It has been said time and time again that locals take hookers to love motels. Foreigners have no shame and bring them right through their front door of where they are staying.

I can walk through the gate of my building with anybody. The porterias will just wave me through. I walk in with different models on a semi-regular basis. But I won't bring a prepago into the building. I see the same people in the elevator week after week. If you've spent any time in Medellin elevators you know it's almost impossible to avoid some type of greeting. I don't want the smiles and greetings to stop. I don't want people to not get on the elevator when they see me on it. I don't want my neighbors to complain about everything to try and get me out.

I can go to any casa, strip club or massage parlor, I can go to a love motel, or just rent a hotel room. If a friend comes and stays for a few days I would give him the same options.

People should ask themselves "Would I do this at my house?" "Would I do this at my parent's or friend's house?" when they are considering an AirBnB. If not, find a hotel, or clear it with the host.

[Chicafan]

Night Club or strip club?

Address?

There is a MP in centro named Fantasia according to this link. http://colombia.adultsearch.com/mede.../fantasia/2063.