Medellin Reports

[CzarNicholas]

There is still time LOL.

Just please stay away from the hookers, nobody wants to see mongers with hooker babies.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/02/m...gbr/index.html

[JjBee62]

LOL its hilarious that you keep saying I'm the fear mongering type but you completely lose your shit every time you write anything covid related. You're rant is all over the place and nonsensical. You even contradict yourself. You come off like a total nutcase.

Good luck with that. I'm still waiting for him to pay up on his bet that there was no way the US death toll would break 80,000. He went completely silent on that subject.

This will be long. Most of it will be stuff that I've already covered. Most of the people with enough sense to, as they used to say, "pour pee out of a boot", already are aware of most of this.

Does anyone here know of anyone who has died from a car crash? It doesn't have to be within your immediate circle of friends and family. Anyone that you can think of who died in a car crash? That guy you used to work with, or maybe your girlfriend's cousin? How about suicide? You can probably answer yes to both questions. If you expand it to famous people, then everyone can answer "Yes. ".

How about the flu? Although the numbers all vary by year, estimated flu deaths aren't too far off from actual car accident deaths and suicides. If flu death estimates are anywhere close to being accurate you should have a list of names about the same as for the other 2 causes of death. Is it even close? I just did a quick search for celebrity flu deaths. I knew 2 of the names and can make some sort of connection to 2 others. Looking at similar lists for suicide and car crash victims, I have no trouble finding names which I'm familiar with.

All of that should make you question the estimated?

The reason is, very few people die from the flu. At the beginning of the flu season the CDC collects data from 13 regional hospitals. The data they receive is total number of admissions for flu or pneumonia. That's very important, because pneumonia is much more dangerous than the typical flu. Pneumonia is much more likely to require hospitalization and is much more likely to result in death.

They take the numbers and assume that others were admitted for the flu or pneumonia, but weren't listed. Then they add to the number again by guessing at the number of people who weren't hospitalized. Then they project the number forward to get an estimate of how many will die from the flu or pneumonia, but include all the pneumonia deaths under the flu.

Here's some actual numbers from Monroe county, New York. As of June 2 there were 17 recorded flu deaths in the county since October 1st. That's according to Rochester Regional Health.

https://www.rochesterregional.org/ne...lu-season-2020

As of today there have been 262 reported COVID-19 deaths in the same county.

As of May 26, there were 131 flu deaths reported for the most recent flu season in the state of Indiana. As of today 2,650 COVID-19 deaths in Indiana.

https://www.in.gov/isdh/22104.htm

But that's only a tiny piece of the story. How many times during flu season do you recall all school being cancelled, all sporting events being cancelled, theaters closed, malls closed, bars closed, restaurants closed? Every year? Every other year? Once every 10 years? How about not for the last 100 years?

Guess when flu season starts? Shortly after schools reopen. You stick a few million kids with only partially developed immune systems in classrooms and they start passing the virus around. The kids take it home to their parents, their parents take it to work. It spreads, mutates, spreads again and finally calms down when schools start closing for the summer.

With COVID-19 we shut it all down. We closed all those places where the disease can easily spread and we slowed it down. Some places did better than others. But even with everything we did if you do an apples to apples comparison, we already have 15-20 times the number of deaths over 4 months as over 7 months of the flu. These aren't projections. These aren't estimates. These are actual death certificates signed by a doctor confirming the cause of death.

How much did all the quarantines, closures, social distancing and masks reduce the spread? If it had absolutely no effect, then we're still left with 15-20 times the number of deaths. If it only reduced the spread by 50%? Fortunately, and I mean that sarcastically, we now have the opportunity to find out how effective all those measures were. Keep an eye on the number of daily deaths in the US over the next 2 weeks. If they climb past 5,000 you'll have an answer. It won't be one you like.

I'm not much of a doom and gloom guy. My philosophy is hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Maybe someone will wave a magic wand and it will all go away. But, until that happens, I'm going to keep myself as safe as possible.

One last bit. It's the "what if you're wrong" question. If I'm wrong, I've been wearing a mask and washing my hands for no reason. Neither soap not masks are that expensive and my work will happily provide me with hand sanitizer, masks and gloves.

But if all the "it's all media hype", or "it's a liberal conspiracy" folks are wrong, you just made it worse by convincing others not to protect themselves and others. Wear a mask. Stay at home. You can still whine and complain just as easily from your couch and it saves you the embarrassment of trying to delete all your posts from ICU.

[Knowledge]

The latest reports are a positive antibody test doesn't necessarily mean you are any safer from the virus than someone who has a negative antibody test result. In fact there are several documented cases of people who have suffered re-infection. By now most have noticed I am not structuring my life around coronavirus theories; that is why I am in Medellin and not on the other side of travel restriction. Once there is a proven safe cure or therapy I will take advantage of them. I can't think of anything. I would do differently based on a test result. By the way the porteros in my building randomly take people's temperature as they exit and enter, more virus theater. The supermarkets were doing it regularly a few weeks ago but no it's a once in a while thing.

If available in Medellin, you might want to get an antibody test to conform whether you had it. And if so, you might, and I say might have some protection from being re-infected, which may in turn alter your behavior. The tests are readily available in the USA, but I don't know about in Medellin. Something to think about in the event your cruising around ground zero, see something of interest, and are sitting on the fence whether to pull the trigger!

[Knowledge]

Go get 'them cowboy! LOL! But seriously, this is Mayor Quintero following Claudia Lopez's lead. It's purely political. Any of us who have been to Centro know how packed the streets are. What does banning liquor sales for two days a week and locking people inside overnight on holiday weekends going to change? The answer it will change the Mayor's public image if things get really bad because he will be able to start doing what Claudia Lopez does. Blame President Duque for anything and everything that goes wrong. They are both after his job.

https://www.mibuenosairesmedellin.co...nnhP-DinQBsoIU

"Medellin will have a dry law every weekend and curfew on all bank holidays".

UPDATE:

"Slapshot's penthouse will not recognize said law. Giddy up!

[SlapShot10]

https://www.mibuenosairesmedellin.co...nnhP-DinQBsoIU

"Medellin will have a dry law every weekend and curfew on all bank holidays".

UPDATE:

"Slapshot's penthouse will not recognize said law. Giddy up!

[Knowledge]

You are right but these discussions never end well. The law is well known and has been restated several times in this latest thread. We should move on.

I doubt that most of them have a fake cedula, at least not the ones I've seen who look way too young. They simply don't care and anyone who would pick one of them probably isn't going to ask to see a cedula.

[Paulie97]

DJT was not up for reelection, that's why no media attention.

El Mechanico.

It's all a worldwide conspiracy to harm Trump's re-election prospects. Is amazing how we've gotten every corner of the globe, ever contagious disease physician on the planet to cooperate. And all these CEOs that have seen their companies decimated by the effects of this mass conspiracy sit idly by without complaint. Mind boggling, isn't it? It's amazing these sorts of arguments have any legs, but then again Coast to Coast AM and Alex Jones have audiences.

And this illness in only four months has over double the deaths to it's credit as a worse case scenario US flu season that lasts seven to eight months. Add to that the fact that 40,000+ new cases are showing up in the states each day into the heat of the summer with no let up in sight and sounds like we have something a lot more serious than the flu. Plus the fact that evidence points to certain serious long term effects found with Covid that aren't with the flu and it's clear that we have something on our hands worth taking seriously.

https://www.advisory.com/daily-brief...health-effects

[Surfer500]

I think it's a wash unless anybody duct tapes themselves inside their house. I suppose it's easier to avoid crossing paths with other people in rural areas. I have to be honest, whenever the pollution spikes up (most recently when the Sahara sand covered the city) and I have respiratory problems, it give me pause. Full disclosure, I'm pretty sure I had coronavirus last January when I was in the US for Christmas holidays. It wasn't in the news yet so I didn't associate it with what everybody now knows. At the time I thought it was bad luck because I hadn't had the flu in something like four years. It lasted a good three weeks or so and they symptoms were body aches and severe respiratory distress of the flu variety. I did not quarantine but I did go to bed much earlier than I normally do.

If available in Medellin, you might want to get an antibody test to conform whether you had it. And if so, you might, and I say might have some protection from being re-infected, which may in turn alter your behavior. The tests are readily available in the USA, but I don't know about in Medellin. Something to think about in the event your cruising around ground zero, see something of interest, and are sitting on the fence whether to pull the trigger!

[AdventureSeekr]

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. You are exaggerating the effect of Covid and you are PC because it is in the news every damned day just like was the case with AIDS. It was the same back then: You better have sex in a space suit or body condom, we were told. Please! The odds of getting Covid from a healthy young woman are ridiculously small.

CDC said for people to quit buying masks early on because they do not work. Now, Fauci says we were lying they do work. We did this so health care providers could have masks, and that is the truth. We were lying then but we are telling the truth now? Do you know when the CDC did this before? With AIDS. The head of the CDC admitted there was no downside to exaggerating the numbers with AIDS.

The same went with transmission from asymptomatic people. It has been yes it frequently happens, no it is rare to yes it frequently happens.

And there is nothing you can do? HCQ and Zinc? Dexamethasone? With you fear monger types, it is all doom and gloom. The world is coming to an end. Hunker down. Buy toilet paper and bleach. Avoid large groups (well except for BLM protests. When you are in a large group then, God is protecting you) Getting a STD, stolen from, or drugged is something you do not need to worry about because it is preventable but Covid? YOU SHOULD BE TERRIFIED OF THAT!

Well, at least until after the 2020 election. Then you can fuck whomever you want because Covid and influenza will miraculously have the same death rate after all and that will be the story day after day. It turns out we scientists were lying again, and in this case, it wasn't for health care providers getting masks but another public service, getting Trump out of office. Hell, the Noble committee probably has a medal ready for Biden right now.

And quit with this "I don't want to talk about Covid" shit. Yes, you do. You just want to talk about it and fear monger. What you really do not want is anyone presenting an opposing POV.

LOL its hilarious that you keep saying I'm the fear mongering type but you completely lose your shit every time you write anything covid related. You're rant is all over the place and nonsensical. You even contradict yourself. You come off like a total nutcase.

[El Mechanico]

DJT was not up for reelection, that's why no media attention.

So tell me why is Covid so much more of a risk than the flu then?

People die from the flu every year. The difference is that there is not that much media attention with it.

El Mechanico.

[Elvis 2008]

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[PVMonger]

Literally everything you wrote here doesn't make sense and is mathematically incorrect. You then stated and assumed a crazy amount of things that nobody has even mentioned here. I'm not getting sucked into making this forum a covid thread again. If you want to argue with people and be illiterate, there is another forum created specifically for this purpose.

Amen, brother. I can't believe that ignorant fools like this exist.

[JjBee62]

Question answered.

So, these girls in centro that stand out as being on the younger side are either using a fake ID (if they are under 18) while putting themselves and the client at risk, disregarding the law and going with clients who are also doing the same, or they are 18+.

Thanks,

I doubt that most of them have a fake cedula, at least not the ones I've seen who look way too young. They simply don't care and anyone who would pick one of them probably isn't going to ask to see a cedula.

[GeneHickman]

Haha well that's true, and thanks!

When the girl that I believe gave it to me said Sorry to me, I told her jokingly that Id do it all over again for her Kiss.

All joking aside though, even though I've recovered, it still wasn't an enjoyable ride, and I had that fear that it could have taken a turn for the worse.

So unpredictable.

I actually have been pretty careful in general, not socializing really, wearing a mask, keeping clean and sanitized, even seeing this apparently healthy girl.

My weakness for a sexy and pretty girl got me I suppose.

Any thoughts on how you would have felt had you been in Colombia at the time?

[Nounce]

Well yes, I realize that.

I feel fortunate having recovered fairly easy and I don't recommend the virus to anyone (obviously).
Like you said, its very unpredictable how it will affect each individual.

Glad that both of you recovered. This is probably the best outcome.

I think the doctors and scientists in US have found out a lot about the disease. As a result, the fatality rate will decrease due to improved method of treatment. People react differently to the same underlying condition. It could be more dangerous for people who show symptom late.