Medellin Reports

[Recondite]

I just got back from Medellin and have a lot of different thoughts about my week-long trip, which was incredible. I'm going to write a few different posts instead of one longer one so people can read what interests them and skip as wanted. I'll start off with my thoughts about nonpros and approach them on Facebook. Over my trips to Medellin I've increasingly gravitated towards nonpros and semipros and away from pros since I have the best experiences with nonpro and semipro girls. I've got around 800 Facebook friends and I decided to spend the time sorting them into nonpro and pro friend groups before my trip in order to optimize my odds of meeting nonpros and semipros. I used criteria for IDing these girls I've written about previously so I won't summarize her (search my earlier posts). I ended up with a list of about 200 I thought were nonpros, messaged the 35 hottest on the list, got responses from about 12, and ended up with longer chats with eight. Of the eight I met four. I ultimately repeated heavily with my two favorites since I really enjoyed their company but could have easily seen more girls. Since I'm a fluent Spanish speaker, I talked a bit about their experiences on Facebook, why they talked to me and all as well.

First and foremost, to be clear, even average-looking girls are receiving a load of messages and a lot of messages asking for naked pics, offering them money etc. One woman I met actually showed me her Facebook and she had over 100 friend requests and a load of messages. If you are targeting a nonpro be polite, be a gentleman, come off as a normal person and ask them about their lives. The girls who I chatted with thought I was attractive based on my photos, but they all commented that they decided to meet me because I was polite to them and seemed normal. My current #1 chick (who is a cam girl so she is not a complete nonpro and I don't include her in the four above) also has stressed to me many times that she really likes me because I've always been a gentleman with her.

Secondly, be honest about what you are looking for with them. You'd be surprised what many will accept. The two chicas I spent the majority of my time with know I'm married / in an open relationship and know that they are not the only women I'm seeing and are cool with that. One of them wanted to spend my last night with me and I told her I was going to be spending it with someone else, who I'd know longer and she was cool with that too.

Thirdly, I'm now more keyed in on how they dress on their profiles as a sure sign that they are nonpros. A lot of photos in normal clothes, maybe with a few in bathing suits is a great sign they are nonpro.

Fourthly, as others have said on the forum be prepared in some cases to go out on dates or to not get sex. I don't mind dates as I speak Spanish and am actively trying to learn everything I can about Colombian culture. They may even ask to bring a friend on the date, which happened to me on one case. For me, lunch / coffee and taxis are cheap so I don't mind. I had a couple who were willing to come to my apartment off the bat. I offer to cook for them as a way of getting them there without being creepy. One of those girls ended up coming to my apartment and drinking and talking with me without sex, which I didn't mind at all. She ultimately didn't have sex with me because I'm in an open relationship and she didn't like that (was even bargaining that we could be in a thruple with my wife at one point if I closed my relationship).

Fifthly, I made a great friend / got a tour guide with one girl who I decided I didn't want to sleep with. She took me to San Felix, Comuna 13, the teleferico, and shopping in centro. All I did was pay her taxis and buy her some food and drink on our site seeing excursions. Finding someone like that is a great way to see the sites.

Sixthly, you will spend money and time on dates so going with a pro may be the preferred option for some. I always paid taxis for girls and offered to pay the babysitter if they had kids. Taxis and babysitter should come out to less than 100 k in most cases. You may want to give some of them a gift too. One of my repeat girls is a baker who makes 1 million a month and is obviously struggling to get by with her family. I gave her an extra regalo after the first time I saw her and she was grateful. Later I would just pay her taxis or send a car for her and she didn't mind that either.

Finally, I learned a lot more about Colombian dating and relationships this trip. Relationship dynamics in Medellin are pretty fucked up. Its common for women to shack up at 13,14, 15 to men in their mid to late 20's (or older). Two of the women I met had long-term relationships with richer men (estrata 4) that started that way. They both were cheated on so much that they separated and now are single moms in estrata 2. This is in addition to the absentee dads (know many like that from this and previous trips), and controlling and financially manipulative relationships (this seems common with the cam girls). These chicas love honesty so much because they are so used to cheating and lies.

[JjBee62]

Never realized that what the security checks were about at the strip clubs.

I'm completely amazed by the whole idea. Who brings tuna to a strip club? What do you do if the strip club has the tankless toilets? Won't a can of tuna sink in water? How many times would you need to do this to learn that nobody thinks about checking the toilet tank?

Why bother? Sometimes the service in an establishment is bad. I don't imagine that the establishment intends to provide bad service. It's difficult to maintain a business which depends on customer service if you try to provide bad service. However, even in the best places there are times when the service sucks.

In some situations talking with a manager will improve the situation. If that's not an option walk away. If you're really disgruntled leave an honest review (one which focuses solely on the problem area, rather than one which trashes everything about the place) and, if they have a social media account, tag it.

Sabotaging the place doesn't accomplish anything. Nobody is going to connect finding a hidden can of tuna with the one time when one employee provided bad service to one customer. No manager is going to decide to focus on improving customer service because of some smelly tuna.

[GeneHickman]

Reminds me of a revenge trick I have used. When I go to a strip club with poor service I crack open a pop-top can of tuna fish and put it in the toilet tank. A few days later the whole bathroom will smell like rotten fish. For a real long time!! And no one ever checks the toilet tank! Hehe. Yes, it was me! LOL.

Never realized that what the security checks were about at the strip clubs.

[Osteoknot]

I'm not a huge fan of the quick breeze in and out lineup method of casas, especially when it comes to remembering names. They should all use numbers like that one place.

That's why I always say, bring a pen and notepad with you when you go to a casa with a real line-up. Unless you are The Amazing Kreskin, you will not be able to remember the girls, their details, and which ones you like. How you remember, track or score them, that is up to you.

[GiuseppeBonera]

Day 2 in Medellin headed to la isla. Little pricey to get in 70 k and 30 k for a beer. As far as the scene, high quality girls around 30+ at 10:30 with more showing up. I didn't like the stripers constantly asking for propina even though I was not even looking most of the (I am looking for hotel action) but was able to keep from tipping a few times saying I had just arrived. Anyway called over one Paisa and she called her friend to join also Paisa. They quoted 1. 3 million each for all night I got them down to 1 m each. Paid the 200 k exit fee for each. Again no issues getting the girls in at the Marriott no one even checked for ids and Evan ordered room service. Great session even though no BBBJ. These girls Rosalie and Sara both very hot morenas Sara more natural and Rosalie with implants good combo since they are friends.

[L00PY]

A question I have for you and centro rats is this. Is it worth spending close to 100 COP with street girls in cheap hotels as compared to spending the same amount or 110 cop in casas where you are somewhat assured of better service and class? Surroundings are quite "upscale" too so one does not feel anxious and can focus on "task" LOL.

It's a mixed bag. Casas have much better service and safety, but there's a limited lineup and severe competition during peak hours. I'm not a huge fan of the quick breeze in and out lineup method of casas, especially when it comes to remembering names. They should all use numbers like that one place.

Street girls can range widely and wildly in all ways, but there's also thrill of the hunt too. I'd say the price on the lower end for street girls is actually closer to 30 k+8 k room (compared to the 55 k in a casa) but a gringo upcharge isn't uncommon. There's a wider range and more variety in the streets too.

Well, let me give you my subjective ratings of rooms in centro stip clubs I've been (from best to worst):

Barra, Conejitas, Occidental, Nueva Avenida, Hilton.

Of the clubs I've been too, I'd agree with that rough lineup. I find the price tracks accordingly to quality too.

[Oterri]

Agree with you. Safe and clean environment is my requirement as well.

For me the biggest advantage of casas / clubs is the ease of use and the safe environment. Very low hanging fruit with minimal risk (some girl might try to still brows through your wallet while you're in the shower so be vigilant). It helps if they know you're not here for a short time, so it might be wise to drop that in the conversation.

In the strip clubs you can also sit, chill and chat up a girl before deciding. The problem eventually is that the lineups in those places are relatively stable, so for novelty one needs to try other venues (and there might be some hurt feelings when you don't go with same girl as the last time). But there is plenty of establishments here so it will take you a long time to try them all.

As for the 'upscale' surroundings. Rooms in the cheaper centro stirp clubs are pretty bad. Casas usually have nicer rooms but don't expect too much. Love motel (not a short-time fuck motel) would be probably better choice for nicer rooms..

[MaddTraveler]

Thank you very much for the excellent and simple reports. Really nice.

A question I have for you and centro rats is this. Is it worth spending close to 100 COP with street girls in cheap hotels as compared to spending the same amount or 110 cop in casas where you are somewhat assured of better service and class? Surroundings are quite "upscale" too so one does not feel anxious and can focus on "task" LOL.

So what do you guy (s) think?

As a Centro rat I'm fully qualified to answer this as well LOL. In my experience the previous answers are OK, as in it's safer in the casas w guaranteed svc if you don't want any unpleasant surprises, etc. But, if I were to choose it'd be the street all day. The main reason is the variety, more choices and most importantly less restrictions. Freelancers are always better in general, of course only if you know how to vet them property and have experience on knowing how to negotiate. Also initially my main logic was that I always imagined the better looking ones in the casas are getting 10-50 dicks daily (not exaggerating), turning mechanical after the 5th hard fuck. But when you're posting in the street or if you go early you get lucky more often with new fine honeys who has fucked yet for that day. The upsell fees are always less or free at times in the street vs the casas / clubs.

[RedKing18]

Day 5:

What do you use to schedule? I need some resources.

Thanks.

[Osteoknot]

I don't care what anyone says but some of yall especially Mr E always got the smartest and best replies LOL. That ongoing and famous FB topic, sight!. I think we need a whole new section just for those. Anyhow, back to MDE in few weeks as the debauchery continues.

I have to repeat myself with, and the point of your post is what? That one of these guys plagiarized the other? Because that's what you showed. Identical answers on two different posts from two different users. I am not willing to take the time to click on the "original post" links and figure out what is supposedly going on, I have better things to do with my time.

Geez, I am not sure this eliminating my Ignore List is going to work out for me like I thought. I had the idea of using it as a lesson for personal growth, but I don't seem to be able to control myself from wasting more time here. I guess that's my problem to solve.

[Osteoknot]

It is really funny when the old guys "invite you" after talking for a little at the bar and then the drinks don't stop LOL.

You are busted, jaja. Why does it have to be "old guys"? Don't you know it's a federal violation to discriminate on the basis of age, jajajajajaja. Except we are not in Pussy Prison, are we, so those rules do not apply.

Profiling, like generalizations are usually based on a majority truth, so I feel you and I may resemble that remark by age demographic, but not by drinking nor Social Security income.

I do however have to drug and damage my brain cells in order to be able to relate to 99.99% of the population, definitely and moreso including here, but that's perhaps a story for another day. As I have been on the record here more than once, intelligence is more a hindrance than a help in this game. The proof is in the pudding, just look at all the "successful" mongerers who surround us here.

I kid you, Johnny, because I know you get it.

Ostee Out and Keep On Keepin' On.

Not-so-random gratuitous foto: MarvelousMotelMaiden (knod to Villiany for the MMM moniker) returns for the third time. We are supposedly headed out to another overnight fabulous finca fiesta in Guatape, same organizers as before. Last time was one of the best parties I ever attended. I shared a room with 4 chicas but no sex. This time, have prearranged for two guaranteed chicas including MMM. Both have been test-fucked already, and the chica to chico ratio is much greater than one, compared to the sausage fest at the last fiesta.

However, at this moment, the organizers have grown strangely dark and quiet, so we shall see, am I getting ripped off or is this just another example of Colombian time relativity? No matter what happens, MMM is here for the duration, so there will be joy in Asti-ville tonight.

She is a rare beauty at which it is hard not to stare. I have never explained my system or "The List" to anyone so soon as her, meaning I am anticipating a spot for her. She is all in including knowing that my Numero Uno Novia Catgirl will always be Number One.

Her personality exudes sexiness and friendliness at the same time, a very rare combination. She asked for and got 200 mil COP upfront from me (told you she would show, jeje) to feed and care for her three kids while we are away this weekend. A very reasonable amount to request.

Snakeskin Adidas in foreground, noted. Got to meet her older sister, too, sitting in the chair next to her. MMM is definitely the winner.

[Mechanic88]

Anyone going to Medellin soon that would do me a favor of taking a phone to a friend? I brought a phone back that my friend let me borrow and I need to send it back.

[Osteoknot]

Their procedures obviously keep changing. Many years ago, if I asked to buy one ticket, they would sell me a paper ticket. But if I bought more than one ticket, they would give me a card. Then they did away with paper tickets and always gave me a card. Later, there was a one time charge for the card, which I was allowed to keep. Try buying four tickets the next time you go to the window and see if they will give, or sell, you a card.

"Things" change so often around here (I am in Medellin) that many times if your info if more than a few months old, it will need to be re-verified. And another poihnt I have posted on before, when you speak to government officials here, depends on who, where, what day of the week, and whether or not they kicked their dog that morning on the answer you will get.

I have literally sat across from two desks that were touching each other, talking to two government officials (about immigration) with each one telling me an opposite answer. They obviously could both see and hear each other, but no attempt was made to reconcile their answers. File that under, "Welcome to Colombia". Jajajajajaaa.

[AdamWl]

Is it worth spending close to 100 COP with street girls in cheap hotels as compared to spending the same amount or 110 cop in casas where you are somewhat assured of better service and class? Surroundings are quite "upscale" too so one does not feel anxious and can focus on "task" LOL.

So what do you guy (s) think?

For me the biggest advantage of casas / clubs is the ease of use and the safe environment. Very low hanging fruit with minimal risk (some girl might try to still brows through your wallet while you're in the shower so be vigilant). It helps if they know you're not here for a short time, so it might be wise to drop that in the conversation.

In the strip clubs you can also sit, chill and chat up a girl before deciding. The problem eventually is that the lineups in those places are relatively stable, so for novelty one needs to try other venues (and there might be some hurt feelings when you don't go with same girl as the last time). But there is plenty of establishments here so it will take you a long time to try them all.

As for the 'upscale' surroundings. Rooms in the cheaper centro stirp clubs are pretty bad. Casas usually have nicer rooms but don't expect too much. Love motel (not a short-time fuck motel) would be probably better choice for nicer rooms.

Well, let me give you my subjective ratings of rooms in centro stip clubs I've been (from best to worst):

Barra, Conejitas, Occidental, Nueva Avenida, Hilton.

And line-ups quality (*very* subjective): Barra, Nueva Avenida, Occidental, Conejitas, Hilton.

[Knowledge]

Change is good we often hear. In any case the civica fee is something in the neighborhood of 6,000 pesos. You can recharge it outside rush hour without waiting. The tranvia stations usually have shorter rush hour lines. In a pinch you can offer somebody cash to swipe you through but that can take a while because so many people charge their cards one fare at a time. To keep stress under control, I've learned to laugh at people who push past me to get to the turnstile only to discover they don't have enough on their civica to get in. I'm not a huge fan of the metro. I use it during rush hour because it's the only workaround for traffic jams. If you are small and / or elderly it's barely usable when it's crowded because people insist on crowding the doorways and they refuse to move when the doors open. My policy is a single "permiso" and a brief opportunity to give way. Then they get pushed aside. Interestingly enough, I find the minority of people who are 5'9" and taller more often move aside.

Their procedures obviously keep changing. Many years ago, if I asked to buy one ticket, they would sell me a paper ticket. But if I bought more than one ticket, they would give me a card. Then they did away with paper tickets and always gave me a card. Later, there was a one time charge for the card, which I was allowed to keep. Try buying four tickets the next time you go to the window and see if they will give, or sell, you a card.