Medellin Reports

[C Jack Sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Ai7PXqpgE

[K Constant]

Hola,

I came over to this board from Sosua Reports. I will visit Medellin in May 2015. It will be my first time in Medellin, and my first time in Colombia. So far, I've been to Thailand, Dominican Republic, and Costa Rica. My most recent experience was in Sosua earlier this month. I'll be in Pattaya again in March. I'm not a total novice at this habit.

I have had some brief conversations face-to-face about the Medellin scene, but I want to speed up my learning curve. I will be a short time (7 day) visitor with basic Spanish language skills, and I want to find all pro action. I understand that Medellin has a combination of club-like short time venues and as well as "casas".

Would someone be so kind as to point me in the direction of relevant posts or give me a rundown / overview of how the scene works in Medellin.

Thanks,

K Constant

[C Jack Sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnm956LkFV8

Read also the comments, interesting debate!

Many girls, 50%, comes from socio-economic estrato 1-2, which mean their families live on 2-3 minimi wages or less, can't ever be transformed into a "normal" girl. The gringos and Europeans that come to Medellin have above average incomes etc, in a developed country. These girls simply doesn't fit into our world, for more than the old sex for $-trick. They are unwanted and are stigmatized by the middleclass. They have no illusion of becoming a wife in the US or France (a country they heard of but they don't know where it is on the map). They understand HERE & NOW! If they did understand they Really could try to escape the barrio-life, which is at best making minimum-wage working maxium-hours, they would plan for it, but marrying an extranjero is for the girls that comes from Estrato 4-6.

The "mentalidad de pobre" is what cements the class structure. Hence, 2/3 of the girls doesn't really get it. They know the barrio. Doesn't matter if you are rich or poor, handsome or ugly, they only think $$.

They are used to fight in order to survive, they don't understand "good manners", just forget about it. Being generous and / or offering a "future" are simply misunderstood as being "weak".

I got mad love and respect for Vegas and you. Both bring a lot to the board. But you're argument is flawed as if your view of my posts. Clearly obvious it's from the monger / prepago standpoint. This is a monger and hooker message board bro! And my argument holds water in the real world as well. The answer to pretty much every one of life's problems comes down to Money, Sex, and Power (drugs can be the third, like how "why" can sometimes be a vowels) Health issues being the major exception.

Kate Upton is dating Justin Verlander. 100 millon USD contract. Also 6'5" Sofia Vergara is with a successful actor who is 8 years younger who is also 6'5" he's worth millions too. Both guys are handsome (always a plus) successful in their respective fields, and worth millions. Tall, rich, and handsome. Your argument is actually supporting my argument and actual strengthens the "Young guys" camp vs the "I'm old but still get laid" guys.

Why are these Bario girls with their bario novios? Because they want to be with them for the reasons I stated before. Attention and affection! Money and security comes from the gringos. Also if you can't pass a Spanish 300 level class you're novia is not with you for you because you can't talk to her on her level like Juan or Hector from the block. Juan and Carlos are prob 10+ years younger then most guys on this board so once factored into the equation there is another point for the "young guys" camp.

VJ and I both have Novias that are normal girls do it does happen. But do you think his girl or my girl makes more money than we do? Do you when VJ takes his girl to Cancun she paying? Not calling him or his lady our. Or my girl. Just saying in "real" relationships money is always a factor. Always!

Lined up at the mansion looking for "us rich gringos" hahahah! Bro if you ask any of these girls and get them to be comfortable with you and speak truthfully (as a paisa can be) a bunch and I dare to say most of the girls hate going to the M as we hate going to some crappy office job! They don't like those dudes! The "150 mil or less guys" they don't they tolerate the cheap charlies. What else they going to do? Work at Exito? Real talk. If a girl flakes on you and you're at the Mansion it's because she got a better offer from a guy she'd rather fuck than you who probably is paying a little bit more. Money is always a factor! Always!

Some girls in the US date losers with no money because they like to feel needed and he's probably a combo of a bad boy or a pretty boy. That dynamic don't fly in Colombia because of how hard it is to earn a living in Colombia. Everybody is a hanger on and needy so that trick don't fly in Colombia.

Thank you for all the props to the guys who quoted my previously long ass posts! (Y).

I'm going to try to leave this a lone after this one. In summation of my position. All girls! Either the Girls are Real Fake Pro Civy Foreign or Domestic. The best way to get laid all the time is to Be young, handsome, funny, cool, nice, and have money. If you are past the young stage. Be handsome, funny, cool, nice, have money. If you were never handsome. Be funny, cool, nice, and have money. If you handsome then then you got the world by the balls so fuck why you wasting time on ISG? Hahahaha Think about it. Would you want to be with a negative, uptight, cheap ugly person (romantic or friendship) same shit applies to women.

For gods sake learn to speak Spanish to at least a 200 college level!

Either you playing the game or you ain't fellas.

By the way. I'm 5'5", mid 30's very youthful (all my hair and it's mostly black still. With some help! LOL) looking, so still young (44- young 45+ old) I speak excellent Spanish, smart, funny, nice, and have a positive attitude and I'm a good looking dude. No bragging just being real about it. I have had MANY non pro novias in Argentina, Peru, Mexico, USA, all the places I've lived and still have a novia normal who I love a ton but still need a side dish every once in a while. I have gotten laid in my 20's most when I learned how to use the tools I had.

Tall dark and handsome? Nope! But I'm 2/3 and that's the hand I'm dealt and the one I need play. Either you playing the game or you ain't fellas.

Do the best with what you have and hope for the best. If you fail take a hard look as to why and try again. Stay up, stay strong. Keep it real.

[Granjefe]

Very true statement VJ. A little effort goes a long way with these girls. These girls Will always make it worth your effort too. I think Medellin will be my go to spot for me too for a while. I think I'm just about done with Cartagena for a little bit. I want to enjoy Mde and short trips to San Andres and Cancun for those novias that I come to connect with really good and have really good chemistry with.

Medellin is always a sure bet for a great time. They have chicas for every budget in that wonderful city.

[Combo]

Too much over-analyzing and self-congratulating.

Gee whiz- money=chicas. Pretending to be Rico Suave aids the process but does not replace money.

Timing and luck goes a long way since you may find a chica during a vulnerable time or a personality that is anti-working girl (foolish pride). A pissing contest to determine who is the coolest securing chicas is childish.

Techniques and strategies to maximize pesos are wonderful anecdotes to learn and implement.

Yes, and I'll add too much generalizing.

[Shamester]

Too much over-analyzing and self-congratulating.

Gee whiz- money=chicas. Pretending to be Rico Suave aids the process but does not replace money.

Timing and luck goes a long way since you may find a chica during a vulnerable time or a personality that is anti-working girl (foolish pride). A pissing contest to determine who is the coolest securing chicas is childish.

Techniques and strategies to maximize pesos are wonderful anecdotes to learn and implement.

[NCal2014]

Solid post. Effort counts guys! Do the little things to show the girls that you respect them. Maybe spend $2 for a girl who needs something at the pharmacy or buy her a favorite snack. If you don't respect money they won't respect you.

Make girls comfortable and they will stay longer and let their guards down more. Spend some time finding girls that meet your needs and repeat your favorites! This is especially true for guys with longer trips. I enjoy my repeats in Medellin much more than in other places. Although Paisas make me want to strangle them, I for some reason can stand having them around more than in other places. Medellin will be home to me for awhile to come.

Good luck and Happy Holidays to All. See some of you guys in about a month.

Very true statement VJ. A little effort goes a long way with these girls. These girls Will always make it worth your effort too. I think Medellin will be my go to spot for me too for a while. I think I'm just about done with Cartagena for a little bit. I want to enjoy Mde and short trips to San Andres and Cancun for those novias that I come to connect with really good and have really good chemistry with.

[World Travel 69]

To all of You.

Have a Great Season.

[John Gault]

I made this post a few days ago, and since then it has started a huge back in forth on Pro / non pro.

(As far as the woman you have paid for, I wonder why you think they are not really working girls? Yes they may have been discriminate, but if you did not fork over the 100 K do you think you could get a repeat performance?

I have not made a TR in a while, but lets get back to the real meat, and potatoes.

[Nino Bravo]

Hey Merry Christmas guys!

Interesting philosophical postings these days.

I enjoy reading your thoughts.

I personally agree with Nino, that it's not all about the money.

Experience, as with anything, shows the light.

Of course with some girls, it's all about the money and with some guys as well.

Guys can buy their love and affection and there will always be girls that'll gladly accept the money and that works for the both.

Great.

Nothing though beats experience, self confidence and that natural charisma that Vegas talks about. IMO.

Just from his posts I can see that girls feel comfortable with him, Vegas. They feel relaxed and cool with him.

That's money right there!..

Well, I'll tell you what, if the 4 of us, me, Ricker, Slam, and Vegas Jeff ever had a chance to get together, I think we'd get along very well. I can see where Slam and Vegas are coming from and their posts have made me re-think my (at times arrogant) point of view. The most important thing is, I think ALL 4 of us are very happy with our lives and our relationships with these woman. This has been a healthy discussion / debate.

I wish everyone a Merry Christmas and hopefully 2015 will bring much happiness to everyone here and continued good times in Colombia.

[Ricker]

Hey Merry Christmas guys!

Interesting philosophical postings these days.

I enjoy reading your thoughts.

I personally agree with Nino, that it's not all about the money.

Experience, as with anything, shows the light.

Of course with some girls, it's all about the money and with some guys as well.

Guys can buy their love and affection and there will always be girls that'll gladly accept the money and that works for the both.

Great.

Nothing though beats experience, self confidence and that natural charisma that Vegas talks about. IMO.

Just from his posts I can see that girls feel comfortable with him, Vegas. They feel relaxed and cool with him.

That's money right there!

It really is.

If you've ever had that girl (s) that just was into you.

Not your money, but you.

You know that it beats the money lover by far.

I could care less about celebrity love, and relationships.

They all appear superficial and temporary to me.

Money is great to have, but in the game of love and even hooker love, I'll always believe in the intangibles of experience, self confidence, charisma and cool.

Take care amigos.

[Vegas Jeff]

Tall dark and handsome? Nope! But I'm 2/3 and that's the hand I'm dealt and the one I need play. Either you playing the game or you ain't fellas.

Do the best with what you have and hope for the best. If you fail take a hard look as to why and try again. Stay up, stay strong. Keep it real.

Solid post. Effort counts guys! Do the little things to show the girls that you respect them. Maybe spend $2 for a girl who needs something at the pharmacy or buy her a favorite snack. If you don't respect money they won't respect you.

Make girls comfortable and they will stay longer and let their guards down more. Spend some time finding girls that meet your needs and repeat your favorites! This is especially true for guys with longer trips. I enjoy my repeats in Medellin much more than in other places. Although Paisas make me want to strangle them, I for some reason can stand having them around more than in other places. Medellin will be home to me for awhile to come.

Good luck and Happy Holidays to All. See some of you guys in about a month.

[SlamCity7777]

Kate Upton isn't with the richest man in the world either, although I'm sure she could be with a Saudi billionaire prince if she wanted. And that example is kind of over the top since she isn't a normal woman. Of course a hot model with be with a successful guy. Sofia Vergara isn't with that rich of a man, not very successful in terms of Hollywood or business. And she could have her pick of more successful, richer men. Now, do the prepagos do it for the money? Of course, but I think the majority of women in the world are with a man because of other things other than money. Just look at the everyday hot paisas you see walking around Medellin with their boyfriends. Most of these guys, even if they are a doctor are making very low wages compared to gringos. But I don't care if a gringo throws $100,000 a year at any of these girls, they aren't going to leave their paisa boyfriends. If it was all about money, these everyday hot paisas would be lined up outside of The Mansion like groupies or overrunning Parque Llleras to hook up with one of us "rich gringos". Is there a reason why this isn't happening if money is such a factor? I guess no one here has come in contact with these type of Colombian women (just prepagos) but I have in order to know what's really important to them..

I got mad love and respect for Vegas and you. Both bring a lot to the board. But you're argument is flawed as if your view of my posts. Clearly obvious it's from the monger / prepago standpoint. This is a monger and hooker message board bro! And my argument holds water in the real world as well. The answer to pretty much every one of life's problems comes down to Money, Sex, and Power (drugs can be the third, like how "why" can sometimes be a vowels) Health issues being the major exception.

Kate Upton is dating Justin Verlander. 100 millon USD contract. Also 6'5" Sofia Vergara is with a successful actor who is 8 years younger who is also 6'5" he's worth millions too. Both guys are handsome (always a plus) successful in their respective fields, and worth millions. Tall, rich, and handsome. Your argument is actually supporting my argument and actual strengthens the "Young guys" camp vs the "I'm old but still get laid" guys.

Why are these Bario girls with their bario novios? Because they want to be with them for the reasons I stated before. Attention and affection! Money and security comes from the gringos. Also if you can't pass a Spanish 300 level class you're novia is not with you for you because you can't talk to her on her level like Juan or Hector from the block. Juan and Carlos are prob 10+ years younger then most guys on this board so once factored into the equation there is another point for the "young guys" camp.

VJ and I both have Novias that are normal girls do it does happen. But do you think his girl or my girl makes more money than we do? Do you when VJ takes his girl to Cancun she paying? Not calling him or his lady our. Or my girl. Just saying in "real" relationships money is always a factor. Always!

Lined up at the mansion looking for "us rich gringos" hahahah! Bro if you ask any of these girls and get them to be comfortable with you and speak truthfully (as a paisa can be) a bunch and I dare to say most of the girls hate going to the M as we hate going to some crappy office job! They don't like those dudes! The "150 mil or less guys" they don't they tolerate the cheap charlies. What else they going to do? Work at Exito? Real talk. If a girl flakes on you and you're at the Mansion it's because she got a better offer from a guy she'd rather fuck than you who probably is paying a little bit more. Money is always a factor! Always!

Some girls in the US date losers with no money because they like to feel needed and he's probably a combo of a bad boy or a pretty boy. That dynamic don't fly in Colombia because of how hard it is to earn a living in Colombia. Everybody is a hanger on and needy so that trick don't fly in Colombia.

Thank you for all the props to the guys who quoted my previously long ass posts! (Y).

I'm going to try to leave this a lone after this one. In summation of my position. All girls! Either the Girls are Real Fake Pro Civy Foreign or Domestic. The best way to get laid all the time is to Be young, handsome, funny, cool, nice, and have money. If you are past the young stage. Be handsome, funny, cool, nice, have money. If you were never handsome. Be funny, cool, nice, and have money. If you handsome then then you got the world by the balls so fuck why you wasting time on ISG? Hahahaha Think about it. Would you want to be with a negative, uptight, cheap ugly person (romantic or friendship) same shit applies to women.

For gods sake learn to speak Spanish to at least a 200 college level!

Either you playing the game or you ain't fellas.

By the way. I'm 5'5", mid 30's very youthful (all my hair and it's mostly black still. With some help! LOL) looking, so still young (44- young 45+ old) I speak excellent Spanish, smart, funny, nice, and have a positive attitude and I'm a good looking dude. No bragging just being real about it. I have had MANY non pro novias in Argentina, Peru, Mexico, USA, all the places I've lived and still have a novia normal who I love a ton but still need a side dish every once in a while. I have gotten laid in my 20's most when I learned how to use the tools I had.

Tall dark and handsome? Nope! But I'm 2/3 and that's the hand I'm dealt and the one I need play. Either you playing the game or you ain't fellas.

Do the best with what you have and hope for the best. If you fail take a hard look as to why and try again. Stay up, stay strong. Keep it real.

[Vegas Jeff]

Some are under 25 some a tad older. The great thing about Colombian women is, they maintain friendships even if they eventually get a boyfriend, get married, and even have children. None of these have ever stopped them from wanting to maintain contact with me and even sleep with me. As I mentioned in my post, not many can do this. Guess I'm the exception. As I mentioned in previous posts, in Colombia anything is possible, there are no limitations, at least not for me.

I hear you. But unfortunately paying pros every time I have sex is an sustainable lifestyle for me. Wish I had the funds but I don't. I guess I could just get laid on the weekends but that doesn't appeal to me either. So I'm forced to take on non pros. Much more time an energy put into the relationship compared to pros. I guess you could call it working retirement. Jajaja.

So Vegas Jeff, I respect what you write, but it comes from the monger / prepago standpoint, not the real world. I really don't want to hear about what happened on a "Two and a half men" episode, since that particular one quoted was written by that loser Charlie Sheen. It might be how his world works, but not how the real world works. The prepagos go back to their barrio boyfriends because they love them and would never leave them for a gringo john. Guys need to keep in mind that these are just business relationships. The 5' 5" guy with the big bankroll isn't going to keep the hot girl for very long.

Nino,

For two locals with some personality and game, I will take a stroll with you a little longer.

For you guys reading from abroad there are some guys in Nino Bravo's position. I have met with some and chatted it up with them. Guys in their mid 20's thru 40. Decent looking, plenty of natural charisma to connect with all ranges and classes of girls. An ability to get the girls out of their clothes. This is not a personal profile, as I don't know you, but just suggesting a possible person that girls would have natural inclinations towards.

I have twice walked into The Apartment Medellin while some suave, young guy was on a rant complaining about the local girls. Rich, John Duque, or Andrea would notice me enter and bite their tongues as I sat down in the back. After the guy finished they would ask what I thought. I then brought these guys down a notch. These guys have strange rules like not paying for taxis or such normally. They reference girls from cities where the girls have more money and better educations. They complain how they have to do this or do that and how it was easier and better somewhere else. Most guys don't get that locals feed them bullshit all day long and money talks. The guys dating nonpros don't get that taxi money and some food at KFC is what sets you apart. Most guys who are in this position are not doing better than skillful mongers IMSO. The regular girls are average and the hookers are awesome. This is why many with skill and experience choose hookers IMO.

Why do they go back to their boyfriends? IMO it is because the relationship shifts from enhancement to tolerance and the smart mongers send them packing. It is like grandparents sending the grandchildren back to the parents. By the way, not all hookers have boyfriends. Many of them are close to their mothers without men in their lives.

Guys that are in Nino's position IMSO are not in a better position than efficient mongers who use money. I am talking about guys who can get respect from the hookers. Cali Hentai's post is one that I can understand and respect. I am not even sure what your angle is. Don't forget that this is a monger board. Maybe give some suggestion that the readers can relate to. Your whole argument says, "If you didn't have money you couldn't do what I do. " Well I do have money so it doesn't matter. Even if I could find the right distance with nonpros I would still take the hookers. The fact that money is involved does not lessen the situation. It enhances it. I am in control of the date in ways that would be much more difficult with regular girls. Do I stand behind their boyfriends? No sir. I have hung out with their boyfriends. Many girls will talk with me on the phone while their boyfriends are right next to them on the couch. For others it is more secretive.

So these are just business relationships eh? In one sense yes. In another sense it goes beyond this. How do you explain why girls pick up the phone when I call them? I have had local friends who have tried calling a girl many times. They then ask me to call her and she picks up the phone. Is this all about the money? Maybe they respect me as someone who gets it and isn't a hassle in their lives. Sometimes maybe I know the girl a little better. I never punish girls for answering the phone. I make them comfortable in telling me the truth. If they are busy I wish them luck with their dates and tell them I will talk with them another time. With every single girl I know I have had a talk or two with them and during those talks I gained their respect. Whether it is talking with a hooker or hanging out with my girlfriend and her kids it doesn't take much for me. Usually just a look and sometimes a few words is all that is needed to keep the ship sailing straight. This is the game that needs to concentrated on, not all this other nonsense.

I hope my rambles don't come across as arrogant. I hope they come across as a defense to the ordinary guy and the potential that each person has. Just telling it like it is, or at least how I see it. I am just following in the footsteps of the kings, pharaohs, emperors, drug lords, etc that came before me. I am glad that I don't have to face the burden that Tiger Woods has to face for my decisions. Like I said the grass is not always greener on the other side.

Nino, I will give you the last word if you want it. Sorry to sidetrack the thread. I hope someone gains something from my posts.

Adios

[SavePros321]

And in case you didn't know, Janet Jackson married a billionaire from Qatar. Do you find anything funny or outrageous about that?

Yeah, but Janet Jackson's body is not built like a box either. My refrigerator has more curves than Kate Upton! She has got to be the most overrated super model in history. She's only hot because American entertainment media (run mostly by homosexuals and metrosexuals) tells you she is hot.