Medellin Reports

[Lefeu]

Ten Commandments,

1. Never sleep with the same woman more than twice. Or three times at the very most.

4. Do not give any working girl honest information about who you are or what you do or where you are from,

5. Before agreeing to go with a working girl or paying a bar fine or its equivalent (as in Thailand and the Philippines) , make it perfectly clear what you expect in the way of services.

Very good advice, but it is very restrictive. From my experience of a 17-year mongering activities, I allow the following:

1. If I really like a woman, I would sleep with her many, many times. I've done 40 times once, and close to that many times. The key is to always have several active favs lined up, so that you don't fall in love with one of them.

4. This is also way too restrictive, and limit how much fun you can have with a woman. I give all sort of general info about me, but never personal stuff like address, personal phone number, real name, etc.

5. Especially in places like Thailand, where the language is a barrier, it is difficult to agree on anything before hand. Plus you have the local customs that differ from one area to the next, in terms of services typically offered. Negotiating services sometimes take all the fun out of it.

[TweedleD]

i like what you say, i'd go down that rabbit hole, i got nothin better to do.

ten commandments,

1. never sleep with the same woman more than twice. or three times at the very most. even if she is irresistible and perfectly charming and wild at heart and in bed, never, ever pay her for sex two days in a row. by returning to the same woman repeatedly one is asking for trouble. requests for money beyond that agreed to. a request for additional money via the telling of sad and unhappy personal or family stories that may or may not be true. with each subsequent coupling with the same woman the likelihood or one or both parties becoming attached or having feelings called romantic love increase, and with it all of the undesirable consequences and boredom well known to all honest men who are married, were married or are in relationships.

then too by having sex with the same woman more than twice or three times a dedicated and disciplined *****monger deprives himself of difference, of diversity, of novelty, of the unexpected. those very concepts that get to the core of exploiting to the fullest these brief lives we all have to thoroughly enjoy our most basic animal instincts.

2. give every working girl the respect you give to any person with whom you can imagine having a loving relationship of indefinite duration. you are buying a service, and in so doing are asking that the working girl will be honest in delivering what is promised. she may not be honest, and many do not deliver on their promises; nevertheless, there is no reason to treat an unknown one-timer shabbily simply because other working girls you have been with have not performed as promised or implied.

3. commandment two notwithstanding, work from the assumption that everything a working girl tells you is a lie, and, more to the point, that her behavior in bed or what she tells you will not be a true picture of how she in fact feels toward you. her job is to create an illusion, to bring you to climax, and, in most parts of the world and most of the time, to get rid of you as soon as possible. those who are genuinely good at what they do are able to make the difference between illusion and reality seem trivial. once the thinking summarized here in commandment three is integrated into the mental software of a true and disciplined *****monger there will be few disappoints or regrets.

4. do not give any working girl honest information about who you are or what you do or where you are from, and most certainly do not give her a telephone number, mailing address or e-mail address. tell her whatever will most likely get her to meet your needs. if the first commandment is followed faithfully, there is absolutely no need for the woman to have any legitimate or honest personal information about you. giving her such information will, as often as not, work against your best interest, which is first and foremost about meeting your sexual and novelty needs-real, fantastical, and otherwise.

5. before agreeing to go with a working girl or paying a bar fine or its equivalent (as in thailand and the philippines) , make it perfectly clear what you expect in the way of services. do not leave anything implied or up to her imagination, for to do so is assuredly a recipe for disappointment, misunderstanding, and unforeseeable and unpredictable consequences. there is, admittedly, a tradeoff here with the primary concern with surprise, and thus this commandment is one to be broken as whim and circumstance dictate.

6. do not take drugs or have too much alcohol when whoring because not only will enjoyment be sacrificed, but also you will not be able to respond appropriately and to best advantage to events that cannot be predicted and come at unexpected moments. furthermore, too much alcohol often results in a lack of caution: failure to note that the woman is sick or has a suspicious sore. or, alas, losing hold of one's faculties to such an extent that one goes bareback for vaginal or anal sex.

7. after you get to the room, if you see, or smell, or sense that something is not right (the working girl's on drugs, she seems diseased, it looks like you've walked into a setup to rob you, she's not going to come through on her principal promises) , then cut your losses. get rid of her right away; don't commit the concorde fallacy and throw more time and money at an ill-conceived investment. tell her you're not feeling well or have bad stomach cramps or are going to throw up, whatever. then leave, or ask her to leave right away. if necessary to avoid a scene or something not easily controlled, give the working girl a small amount of money to get rid of her.

8. if a working girl comes through on all of her promises, and proves to be good indeed, show your appreciation. tip her, and honestly compliment her on her skills. you are not only making her feel good about herself, but you are almost guaranteeing that the next guy she's with will be more than happy with what he asked and paid for. that next guy could be you returning for the second and last time.

9. never have sex with a girl that's ****, the appropriate age determined by the country in which you have sex with her. if in doubt about her age, walk away and find someone else.

10. always wear a condom for vaginal and anal sex. to not do so is not just to risk a disease that could be fatal, but also to rob you of one or more novel experiences while you are recovering from your stupidity.

[Cm6363]

On the last night of my last trip in March, I went to a disco that was part of a late night 5 or 6 bar / disco complex that was south of Poblado just off the highway. Was fun and I noticed it was mostly non-pro, but I did notice some gringo deals cut and a pair offered themselves to me too. I enjoy all of the offerings of Medellin, except high end night clubs, but this is my favorite way to play.

Does anyone know the name of this area? I think the best time to go would be 1 am or later. Does that seem right?

Better yet, can anyone please recommend their favorite discos for finding ladies who want to go semi-pro for a few hours or a night?

Thanks!

[Combo]

Have met a lot of women on Facebook and I think I can tell who the Mansion girls. Their pricing seems high and what they provide kind of short term for it. (e. G, $COL 150. 000 for 1-1/2 hour) Was paying that for 3-4 hours with non-Mansion girls earlier in the year. Anyone have color on current pricing now?

Thanks

Well, if they're Mansion girls, they're going to ask for what they get at the Mansion, which is usually 150k. Having said that, what they ask for is not necessarily what one should pay.

[TwistedBrother]

One of the rules that Jackson has expressly developed, is not commenting on safe sex practices except on the forum designed for that purpose. I've been mongering 22 years. We all have our own personal preferences, risk levels, etc. We all fall somewhere on a gray scale from the blackest of blacks to the whitest of whites. Most of the world would criticize All of us. You choose to criticize me because I go further into the abyss than most of you (but surely not all). There sure as hell is no need to go down the road of criticizing me on that level. There's a reason Jackson has prohibited that type of commentary. I'm surprised all of you don't know that.

Nonetheless, thanks for the attempts at help. I'm back in the states now and no telling if I'll ever get to Medellin again. I'm very unlikely to travel internationally except for work. I expect to be in Cali in a few years, but otherwise who knows. Loved my time in Medellin, though, even if it didn't work out perfectly. Loved it!

[El Bacano]

I like what you say, I'd go down that rabbit hole, I got nothing better to do.

[SlamCity7777]

I've never commented on another amigos sex practices. I assume that most, especially with a novia, will go BBFS. But with a street walker that is having sex with many, many men a day. An el centro sex worker. I simply don't understand the cost. Benefit analysis. What are you thinking? Especially when you write that you have a SO at home.

But, only good energy and good luck, amigo.

+1000 to this LT!

Let's be honest; Sex with a condom sucks! Having your dick fall off or your life impacted with an SDT sucks way more! Like LT said you essentially chose to go raw dog with a low level street walker type working girl that has no super vision, no required testing, ect. There is a big difference in going raw with a girl like that and say a girl you pick up in the states at a bar. Shit! Even the working girls at the lowest level in the sates know better than to go raw with a first time client!

If you're going to play the game you got to play smart, no silly or stupid turn overs.

[TweedleD]

I love women. I love working girls. I love women who are working girls because they give me the best sexual bang for my money, I don't get hassles or problems that I can't get rid of within ten or fifteen minutes, I don't have to deal with a woman's historical baggage, and the best thing of all about working girls and my approach to them is that I'm almost never bored. I'm always getting surprises. It is the element of surprise that tops my list of priorities. Which is another way of saying that I am, in everything I do, a dedicated, irrepressible butterfly. To put the matter differently, I am committed to promiscuity in all of its many possible meanings. I'm promiscuous in what I read, in what I eat, in the company I seek, in the drugs I do, in the movies and museums I visit, and of course in my sex life. Well, I am not entirely promiscuous in my sex life; I am thoroughly heterosexual.

For nearly sixteen years I have traveled the world, and largely, often almost exclusively, for the purpose of whoring with girls and women. Argentina, Peru, Cambodia, China, the Dominican Republic, Vietnam, Brazil, Myanmar, Thailand, Indonesia, the Netherlands, Italy, Mexico, the Philippines, Cuba, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Honduras, Australia—just about any place where you find working girls in one guise or another. In brothels, bars, the street, discos, back alleys, truck stops, massage parlors, restaurants, tea houses, the beach.

I cannot in all honesty say exactly how many working girls—different ones—I've been with since I seriously began my travels in search of sexual adventure and variety. I've never kept track of the actual number. Nor have I had any interest in doing so. If I had to venture a guess, however, I'the say that over the sixteen years that I have pursued my hobby with immodest zest I have averaged between 50 and 70 different couplings a year; in 2003, an above average year, the number exceeded 100.

I have strong memories of the best of these half hour, three hour, one day, one night sexual adventures: mental pictures of where I had sex, what I did with the girl or woman, what she looked like, how she dressed and behaved, how we began and how we parted. My library of memories is solely in my head. I have never taken a single photograph of a woman with whom I have had sex. The cold truth is that I cannot remember the names of more than twenty percent of the hundreds and hundreds of women I have been with. I only needed to know a name when we hooked up, in order to be able to show her some respect and to increase the pleasure of what we did by making it less impersonal. Invariably, though, within a day or two, only the experience and the memory mattered, and a name for most of the women I'the been with quickly became an irrelevancy. For within a day or two of a sexual coupling, sometimes hours, I would find myself in pursuit of yet another girl or woman. My thoughts would be tightly focused on what I might like to try next: as to shape, age, color, disposition, weight, dress, in addition to all those sexual matters that any serious *****monger obsesses about—the approach, the pause, the lingering warm up, two-holing or three-holing, the kissing and embraces, the shower together, and the leaving. Variation and novel combinations are always the real issue. Repetition and the familiar are to be avoided as much as possible. They are the banes of all marriages, all relationships, all friendships.

By about the third year of my global *****mongering I had developed a firm list of rules, or what I would tell myself were the Ten Commandments of a Happy *****monger. I share them here for the benefit of other *****mongers. No doubt many have lists of their own dos and don'ts. Even perhaps superior to and more detailed than mine.

[Legal Tender]

Finally found a girl with a bunch of others in a doorway for one of the ultra-cheap notels. She had this cute face and I went for it. She looked good, but turned out to be flabby, hairy and so on. Beyond the face, not much appeal.

But I had paid for the shitty little room and went for it. Got her to ditch the condoms and give me BBFS. She was nice, but otherwise not great. After I was done, I walked around awhile more, got something to eat, chatted with a few folks (LOL) , saw a lot of chicks who made me think,"Damn, I should have picked her," then finally got the hell out.

I've never commented on another amigos sex practices. I assume that most, especially with a novia, will go BBFS. But with a street walker that is having sex with many, many men a day. An el centro sex worker. I simply don't understand the cost. Benefit analysis. What are you thinking? Especially when you write that you have a SO at home.

But, only good energy and good luck, amigo.

[Cm6363]

Have met a lot of women on Facebook and I think I can tell who the Mansion girls. Their pricing seems high and what they provide kind of short term for it. (e. G, $COL 150.000 for 1-1/2 hour) Was paying that for 3-4 hours with non-Mansion girls earlier in the year. Anyone have color on current pricing now?

Thanks

[Vitrea]

Thanks for the reply (and to others so far, too). .

Like I said, my first two experiences were at Encuentro Grill, location I gave. These were both cases of meeting someone hanging outside and heading straight upstairs, rather than any time in the club downstairs. Humorous secret passageways and long, winding stairs to a series of nasty, but doable little bedrooms with mattresses. With this Olga on the first night, I went in with her and bought her a drink on the way up (7mil, I think) , then gave her 50mil for the deed. Not sure if that was too much for that place, but that was my first instinct. Like I said, CBJ and CFS. Didn't work for me since I hardly ever use jimmys, so she got some lotion and finished me off by hand. Like I said, she allowed the DFK, was nice and friendly, and a thin, black spinner, etc.

Second night went back there (after trolling around, considering other options, etc.) and got another gal. Afraid I never got her name, or forgot it. Anyway, she was white, nice smile but otherwise not great looking, not great bod. Bad impulsive choice. She also kissed and wanted everything covered. Things weren't working again and I just gave up and left.

Then I went on a probably ill-advised walk way down Calle 50, across the highway or freeaway, and into the hood that is near the Combat Zone. Just trolling for anything, but I didn't go far enough and it was late. Hardly saw a thing except for a few scary folks and other innocuous ones. I did find one old homeless gal and got her to start giving me a BJ in a corner of a building that was basically in plain site. But finally came to my senses on that before I got pinched.

Anyway, there it is. Sorry if I've offended anyone. I think I'm almost out of time and energy, so I may be done. I love your city, though. If my S. O. Back home ever ditches me, maybe I'll spend more time in the future, LOL.

No offense. Since it looks like you already did the centro strip clubs, your only other night time choice is the other clubs or escorts. The later, neither I, nor most forum mongers do not have much experience with.

Of the non-centro clubs, If you do not care much about budget, go to Fase II or La Isla. Both will have decent to very good quality. Luna Luneres is a decent, slightly more reasonable option. I avoid San Diego club. I consider that to be a dump. Report back if you do.

[Vitrea]

Not sure why I'm listed with 8 posts. Maybe from long ago when they were combined. I have more than 2, 400 on USASG. Just so, you know, you don't think I don't help folks, LOL.

I wish they did but the USASG posts do not count toward your post count in ISG and neither do the posts on the dedicated Argentina Forum. Welcome to Latin American mongering :-D.

[Combo]

Well dressed, of course, you will be watched by thugs looking for easy prey! The good thing is that won't be traveling alone (safety in numbers) , and other guys being with you, you should experience the night life, live it up! Late night, the hoes come out to play, be careful of the tranis!

At night hoes every where!

Dress pants, Blazer and carrying $200-400. I don't know about the chicas, but you'll be a magnet for trouble.

You're always better off blending in and keeping a low profile. While MDE is dramatically safer than it was 10 years ago, people will notice you, and some will try to ascertain how profitable of a target you might be.

[TwistedBrother]

Not sure why I'm listed with 8 posts. Maybe from long ago when they were combined. I have more than 2, 400 on USASG. Just so, you know, you don't think I don't help folks, LOL.

[TwistedBrother]

Brother, you are more likely to get help if you post some more of your "interesting" experiences in the last few days in MDE and if you pay the $20 and get senior status and PM privileges. You probably are spending couple of Gs on this trip so I am sure you can afford it.

Casas: If kissing = GFE for you. 95% of paisas are GFE. If you are after GFE in my sense of the phrase, you are not missing much by missing day time casas. Most are "wham bham thank you mam" style.

Thanks for the reply (and to others so far, too). Regarding the membership, there was no deliberate attempt to sidestep anything. I tried logging in with my normal account, thinking I'd be required to register, and apparently not. If sure Jackson or "the system" will work as it's supposed to.

Like I said, my first two experiences were at Encuentro Grill, location I gave. These were both cases of meeting someone hanging outside and heading straight upstairs, rather than any time in the club downstairs. Humorous secret passageways and long, winding stairs to a series of nasty, but doable little bedrooms with mattresses. With this Olga on the first night, I went in with her and bought her a drink on the way up (7mil, I think) , then gave her 50mil for the deed. Not sure if that was too much for that place, but that was my first instinct. Like I said, CBJ and CFS. Didn't work for me since I hardly ever use jimmys, so she got some lotion and finished me off by hand. Like I said, she allowed the DFK, was nice and friendly, and a thin, black spinner, etc.

Second night went back there (after trolling around, considering other options, etc.) and got another gal. Afraid I never got her name, or forgot it. Anyway, she was white, nice smile but otherwise not great looking, not great bod. Bad impulsive choice. She also kissed and wanted everything covered. Things weren't working again and I just gave up and left.

Then I went on a probably ill-advised walk way down Calle 50, across the highway or freeaway, and into the hood that is near the Combat Zone. Just trolling for anything, but I didn't go far enough and it was late. Hardly saw a thing except for a few scary folks and other innocuous ones. I did find one old homeless gal and got her to start giving me a BJ in a corner of a building that was basically in plain site. But finally came to my senses on that before I got pinched.

Then last night, I took a cab into the Zone and wow, what a scene. All around those 4-6 blocks near the Calle 53 strip clubs by that big plaza, etc. I suspect everyone knows where it is. That was about three years worth of SWs I'd see in my city. I was blinded, scared, exhilarated, curious, everything. Heaven and Hell. As dangerous as it felt, in a way if sort of felt semi-safe, too. I can think of a lot of other crazy scenes in the USA I could have wandered into that would have felt more dangerous, just because of various factors. But other than a few folks begging for this and that, or trying to get me into their club, I wasn't bothered. Maybe I was lucky, LOL.

Anyway, I was hoping to find a gem and looked awhile. Finally found a girl with a bunch of others in a doorway for one of the ultra-cheap notels. She had this cute face and I went for it. She looked good, but turned out to be flabby, hairy and so on. Beyond the face, not much appeal.

But I had paid for the shitty little room and went for it. Got her to ditch the condoms and give me BBFS. She was nice, but otherwise not great. After I was done, I walked around awhile more, got something to eat, chatted with a few folks (LOL) , saw a lot of chicks who made me think,"Damn, I should have picked her," then finally got the hell out.

It's like, I want desperately to get back in there and, at the same time, never want to go back again. What a cluster.

Ok, finally, not that it really matters, but hell no I ain't spending a couple Gs on this trip. Company dime and with co-workers. I'm trying to play at night because it IS a lot cheaper than back home, of course.

Anyway, there it is. Sorry if I've offended anyone. I think I'm almost out of time and energy, so I may be done. I love your city, though. If my S. O. Back home ever ditches me, maybe I'll spend more time in the future, LOL.